Re: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
I don't think the woman astronaut is an example of the same kind of thing. She did go into outer space. Since she then had an opportunity that no accomplished Canadian photographer had, her photography and book were legitimate. Paul On May 29, 2005, at 11:28 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 5/29/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and council rate payers. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15439931-2,00.html :-( What a pile of bat droppings! The same sort of thing happened here when Canada's first female astronaut, Roberta Bonday got a great huge government grant to photograph Canada from the air, and publish it in a book. She'd never done a professional photo job in her life, and admitted that she'd only recently become interested in photography, yet she gets a coupla hundred thousand to do this book (from which she got the profits, never having to pay the gov't back a cent). Things like this pretty much leave a real bad taste in my mouth. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-( I don't think the woman astronaut is an example of the same kind of thing. She did go into outer space. Since she then had an opportunity that no accomplished Canadian photographer had, her photography and book were legitimate. It's getting a job based on your fame, not your talent. Ms. Bondar is, IIRC, a medical doctor who had the good fortune to have her name picked out of a hat. This is not good credentials for a photographer. William Robb
Re: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
On 5/30/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's getting a job based on your fame, not your talent. Ms. Bondar is, IIRC, a medical doctor who had the good fortune to have her name picked out of a hat. This is not good credentials for a photographer. Well, that's what I was thinking. BTW, Paul, her book isn't shots she took from outer space. They're landscapes. Good landscapes, but no better than many other photographers who didn't get government grants to finance their travel across Canada to get the photos, and to finance the publication of the book. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
Okay, that's different. It's a boondoggle. Paul On May 30, 2005, at 7:58 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 5/30/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's getting a job based on your fame, not your talent. Ms. Bondar is, IIRC, a medical doctor who had the good fortune to have her name picked out of a hat. This is not good credentials for a photographer. Well, that's what I was thinking. BTW, Paul, her book isn't shots she took from outer space. They're landscapes. Good landscapes, but no better than many other photographers who didn't get government grants to finance their travel across Canada to get the photos, and to finance the publication of the book. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
I think you need to have a serious word with your councillors... When my local council did a similar exercise a few years ago they at least had the good sense to get their photographers from Magnum. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 May 2005 05:01 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-( ...and council rate payers. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15439931-2,00.html :-(
Re: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
At least it looks like she's using a Pentax - one of the Espio series, I think, but yes, what a phenomenal waste of money. Glad I'm in Brizzie, not Sidders. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-( ...and council rate payers. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15439931-2,00.html :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
This one time, at band camp, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and council rate payers. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15439931-2,00.html I used to live in Leichhardt (my first child was born there for home birth fans) and I took lots of photos of Norton St. Its a street full of cafe's and smells like coffee. If you can get a table without gangs bashing you or having your car stolen (dont drive anything but a BMW) it is not worth the effort. Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
What the hell is '...to spruik local businesses.' I thought we had the same words in our language on this side of the globe. Regards, Bob S. On 5/28/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and council rate payers. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15439931-2,00.html :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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On 29 May 2005 at 7:16, Bob Sullivan wrote: What the hell is '...to spruik local businesses.' I thought we had the same words in our language on this side of the globe. What the hell is '...to spruik local businesses.' I thought we had the same words in our language on this side of the globe. Oz English http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_561508116/spruiker.html Substitute tout for Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
1. Well, she must be good to charge that much GRIN. 2. She obviously must be a pro, look at that black digital camera GRIN. 3. Who is paying the other $30,000 + expenses GRIN. 4. Does her day rate include sex with the city council GRIN. 5. You should have quoted $100K per day, Rob, instead of $1K. But item 4 might have been a sticking point. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Rob Studdert wrote: ...and council rate payers. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15439931-2,00.html :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.2.0 - Release Date: 5/27/2005
Re: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
On 5/29/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and council rate payers. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15439931-2,00.html :-( What a pile of bat droppings! The same sort of thing happened here when Canada's first female astronaut, Roberta Bonday got a great huge government grant to photograph Canada from the air, and publish it in a book. She'd never done a professional photo job in her life, and admitted that she'd only recently become interested in photography, yet she gets a coupla hundred thousand to do this book (from which she got the profits, never having to pay the gov't back a cent). Things like this pretty much leave a real bad taste in my mouth. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
On 5/29/05, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you need to have a serious word with your councillors... When my local council did a similar exercise a few years ago they at least had the good sense to get their photographers from Magnum. ...and probably for a cheaper rate, too... -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
G'day Rob. The Sunday Telegraph actually has a photo of her holding a Pentax 67. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 29 May 2005 2:01 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-( ...and council rate payers. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15439931-2,00.html :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: How to p*ss off a whole load of local photographers :-(
That's just stupid. And will probably work as well as the WA state government's hair brained scheme several years ago. They spent AU$1 million on a 3 day TV commercial shoot with Elle McPherson. For a tourism campaign to sell West Australia to the world. That was a good investment. She's from Queensland for crying out loud!!! Misuse of tax money makes my blood boil. Dave On 5/29/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and council rate payers. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15439931-2,00.html :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
