Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-05 Thread Dave Brooks

Mike Wilson:
>AFAIR, the Z1-p does not use IR for film measurement.

>and

>Dave Brooks:
> My GFM roll of HIE was shot using my PZ-1, 28-105 and #25 Red..

>So there is hope for me yet.  Thanks.  I'll probably process that roll
>next week.

>Cheers,
>Gautam 

Here is a link to some of the GFM shots from 2005. Scrool down about 1/2 way on 
the first
page.


http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/

Dave
David J Brooks
Equine Photography in York Region
www.caughtinmotion.com
Pentax istD, Nikon D2H(back from service, AGAIN)



Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-04 Thread Gautam Sarup
Mike Wilson:
>AFAIR, the Z1-p does not use IR for film measurement.

and

Dave Brooks:
> My GFM roll of HIE was shot using my PZ-1, 28-105 and #25 Red..

So there is hope for me yet.  Thanks.  I'll probably process that roll
next week.

Cheers,
Gautam



Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread brooksdj
My GFM roll of HIE was shot using my PZ-1, 28-105 and #25 Red..

Turned out fine.

I put a piece of aluminum foil, just a hair bigger than the DX window over the 
window and
pressed it 
into the cavity. Then i put a piece of electrial tape over that.

No noticable edge fogging that i could see.

Dave Brooks



> Will do.  I'm going to process it just to see 
how 
bad it is.
> 
> On 2/2/06, Gautam Sarup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Scott,
> >
> > You're not the only one around.  I have a roll to which I've
> > done exactly the same thing in a PZ-1p.  Tell me how
> > the results turn out.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gautam
> >
> > On 2/2/06, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > So I've had this roll of HIE in the fridge for a while and finally
> > > decided to expose it.  So I loaded it, in the dark, into the *ist,
> > > attached a lens and #25 red filter, and headed to the great
> > > out-of-doors.  After exposing my very first roll of infrared film I
> > > unloaded the camera, in the dark, put the cassette back into it's
> > > canister, and then placed it back into the fridge to await processing.
> > >  This was a few days ago.
> > >
> > > Today.  Page 36 of the operating manual.  "Infrared film cannot be
> > > used.  This camera uses infrared rays to detect film transport so
> > > infrared film may be exposed."
> > >
> > > Feel free to point at me and laugh.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott Loveless
> > > http://www.twosixteen.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Scott Loveless
> http://www.twosixteen.com
> 
> --
> "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
> 






Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread dagt
> fra: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> On 2/3/06, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:34 PM, David Savage wrote:
> >
> > >> These same children refer to vinyl LPs as "big CDs."
> > >> I feel *very* old.
> > >
> > > Whats an ell pee??
> >
> > Now that I think about it, I don't have any pre-recorded music on an
> > analogue medium.  I would like to buy a good turntable someday.
> 
> I own only 2 records. Michael Jackson's "Bad" & John Farnnam's
> "Whispering Jack". All the rest of my old stuff is on cassette tape.

I still have lots of LPs, and even played one of them recently.  Some records 
are still not available on CD.

Also, I have this strange idea that it is a good way to teach the kids how 
sound is made, just like it is good for them to see what light is and how 
pictures are made by showing them the darkroom.

I guess I'm just getting old
 
DagT



Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:05:08 +0100 schreef David Savage  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



On 2/3/06, Lucas Rijnders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Op Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:34:22 +0100 schreef David Savage
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Whats an ell pee??

Think of it as audio-film :o)



LOL

Ah yes. Prone to scratching, needs to be handled with care etc. etc.


I like to think of it as inconvenient, but with superior quality :o)

--
Regards, Lucas



Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread David Savage
On 2/3/06, Lucas Rijnders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Op Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:34:22 +0100 schreef David Savage
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Whats an ell pee??
>
> Think of it as audio-film :o)
>
> --
> Regards, Lucas

LOL

Ah yes. Prone to scratching, needs to be handled with care etc. etc.

Dave



Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread David Savage
On 2/3/06, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:34 PM, David Savage wrote:
>
> >> These same children refer to vinyl LPs as "big CDs."
> >> I feel *very* old.
> >
> > Whats an ell pee??
>
> Now that I think about it, I don't have any pre-recorded music on an
> analogue medium.  I would like to buy a good turntable someday.

I own only 2 records. Michael Jackson's "Bad" & John Farnnam's
"Whispering Jack". All the rest of my old stuff is on cassette tape.

> Most of my listening lately has been iTunes on random-play while I
> work in Photoshop.  It's about time I put on a CD and listened
> properly from start to finish... haven't done that for a while.

As soon as I get a new CD I rip it to the 'puter. The only place I
actually use my CD's is in the car.

Dave S

> - Dave
>
> http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/
> http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
>
>
>
>



Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:34:22 +0100 schreef David Savage  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



On 2/3/06, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Don Sanderson wrote:

>Don't feel bad Scott, you have no idea how many
>times I've tried to "chimp" when using a film body
>lately! ;-)
>
>
As a "sign of the times," I don't think my children understand why that
doesn't work.
These same children refer to vinyl LPs as "big CDs."
I feel *very* old.



Whats an ell pee??


Think of it as audio-film :o)

--
Regards, Lucas



Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread David Mann

On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:34 PM, David Savage wrote:


These same children refer to vinyl LPs as "big CDs."
I feel *very* old.


Whats an ell pee??


Now that I think about it, I don't have any pre-recorded music on an  
analogue medium.  I would like to buy a good turntable someday.


Most of my listening lately has been iTunes on random-play while I  
work in Photoshop.  It's about time I put on a CD and listened  
properly from start to finish... haven't done that for a while.


- Dave

http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/





Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread David Savage
On 2/3/06, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don Sanderson wrote:
>
> >Don't feel bad Scott, you have no idea how many
> >times I've tried to "chimp" when using a film body
> >lately! ;-)
> >
> >
> As a "sign of the times," I don't think my children understand why that
> doesn't work.
> These same children refer to vinyl LPs as "big CDs."
> I feel *very* old.
>

Whats an ell pee??







Dave



Re: Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: Gautam Sarup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/02/03 Fri AM 04:21:46 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: I'm an idiot
> 
> Scott,
> 
> You're not the only one around.  I have a roll to which I've
> done exactly the same thing in a PZ-1p.  Tell me how
> the results turn out.
> 
> Cheers,
> Gautam

AFAIR, the Z1-p does not use IR for film measurement.

> 
> On 2/2/06, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So I've had this roll of HIE in the fridge for a while and finally
> > decided to expose it.  So I loaded it, in the dark, into the *ist,
> > attached a lens and #25 red filter, and headed to the great
> > out-of-doors.  After exposing my very first roll of infrared film I
> > unloaded the camera, in the dark, put the cassette back into it's
> > canister, and then placed it back into the fridge to await processing.
> >  This was a few days ago.
> >
> > Today.  Page 36 of the operating manual.  "Infrared film cannot be
> > used.  This camera uses infrared rays to detect film transport so
> > infrared film may be exposed."
> >
> > Feel free to point at me and laugh.
> >
> > --
> > Scott Loveless
> > http://www.twosixteen.com
> >
> > --
> > "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
> >
> >
> 
> 


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Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread David Mann

On Feb 3, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:


Don't feel bad Scott, you have no idea how many
times I've tried to "chimp" when using a film body
lately! ;-)


I've been known to reach for the film advance on the Z-1p... almost  
as many times as I've forgotten to advance the film on my manual  
bodies :)


- Dave

http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/





Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread Scott Loveless
Will do.  I'm going to process it just to see how bad it is.

On 2/2/06, Gautam Sarup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scott,
>
> You're not the only one around.  I have a roll to which I've
> done exactly the same thing in a PZ-1p.  Tell me how
> the results turn out.
>
> Cheers,
> Gautam
>
> On 2/2/06, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So I've had this roll of HIE in the fridge for a while and finally
> > decided to expose it.  So I loaded it, in the dark, into the *ist,
> > attached a lens and #25 red filter, and headed to the great
> > out-of-doors.  After exposing my very first roll of infrared film I
> > unloaded the camera, in the dark, put the cassette back into it's
> > canister, and then placed it back into the fridge to await processing.
> >  This was a few days ago.
> >
> > Today.  Page 36 of the operating manual.  "Infrared film cannot be
> > used.  This camera uses infrared rays to detect film transport so
> > infrared film may be exposed."
> >
> > Feel free to point at me and laugh.
> >
> > --
> > Scott Loveless
> > http://www.twosixteen.com
> >
> > --
> > "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
> >
> >
>
>


--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman



Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread Gautam Sarup
Scott,

You're not the only one around.  I have a roll to which I've
done exactly the same thing in a PZ-1p.  Tell me how
the results turn out.

Cheers,
Gautam

On 2/2/06, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I've had this roll of HIE in the fridge for a while and finally
> decided to expose it.  So I loaded it, in the dark, into the *ist,
> attached a lens and #25 red filter, and headed to the great
> out-of-doors.  After exposing my very first roll of infrared film I
> unloaded the camera, in the dark, put the cassette back into it's
> canister, and then placed it back into the fridge to await processing.
>  This was a few days ago.
>
> Today.  Page 36 of the operating manual.  "Infrared film cannot be
> used.  This camera uses infrared rays to detect film transport so
> infrared film may be exposed."
>
> Feel free to point at me and laugh.
>
> --
> Scott Loveless
> http://www.twosixteen.com
>
> --
> "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
>
>



Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread E.R.N. Reed

Don Sanderson wrote:


Don't feel bad Scott, you have no idea how many
times I've tried to "chimp" when using a film body
lately! ;-)
 

As a "sign of the times," I don't think my children understand why that 
doesn't work.

These same children refer to vinyl LPs as "big CDs."
I feel *very* old.



RE: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread Don Sanderson
Don't feel bad Scott, you have no idea how many
times I've tried to "chimp" when using a film body
lately! ;-)

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:39 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: I'm an idiot
> 
> 
> On 2/2/06, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You know, when I first read your message I thought you had tried to
> > load IR film into an ist D...  Now *that* would be idiotic :)
> >
> 
> Hey, don't put it past me.
> 
> --
> Scott Loveless
> http://www.twosixteen.com
> 
> --
> "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
> 



Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/2/06, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You know, when I first read your message I thought you had tried to
> load IR film into an ist D...  Now *that* would be idiotic :)
>

Hey, don't put it past me.

--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman



Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread Juan Buhler
You know, when I first read your message I thought you had tried to
load IR film into an ist D...  Now *that* would be idiotic :)

I don't know how the ist uses infrared light, but I would develop the
film anyway. Maybe you'll just get some spilling on the edge of the
frames and the images will be usable...

j


On 2/2/06, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I've had this roll of HIE in the fridge for a while and finally
> decided to expose it.  So I loaded it, in the dark, into the *ist,
> attached a lens and #25 red filter, and headed to the great
> out-of-doors.  After exposing my very first roll of infrared film I
> unloaded the camera, in the dark, put the cassette back into it's
> canister, and then placed it back into the fridge to await processing.
>  This was a few days ago.
>
> Today.  Page 36 of the operating manual.  "Infrared film cannot be
> used.  This camera uses infrared rays to detect film transport so
> infrared film may be exposed."
>
> Feel free to point at me and laugh.
>
> --
> Scott Loveless
> http://www.twosixteen.com
>
> --
> "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
>
>


--
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com



Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Loveless"

Subject: I'm an idiot



So I've had this roll of HIE in the fridge for a while and finally
decided to expose it.  So I loaded it, in the dark, into the *ist,
attached a lens and #25 red filter, and headed to the great
out-of-doors.  After exposing my very first roll of infrared film I
unloaded the camera, in the dark, put the cassette back into it's
canister, and then placed it back into the fridge to await processing.
This was a few days ago.

Today.  Page 36 of the operating manual.  "Infrared film cannot be
used.  This camera uses infrared rays to detect film transport so
infrared film may be exposed."

Feel free to point at me and laugh.


Process it anyway. The frame counter is a small IR optical sensor that 
counts sprocket holes.

For sure you will have a fogged edge, but the images should be fine...
Providing you covered the DX window, which uses a foam seal to keep light 
off the film, and is possibly not IR opaque.


William Robb