Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-05-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Stanley Halpin wrote:

>In brief, there is no perfect bag, but there may be acceptable compromises 
>depending on work style and other circumstances.

Ain't that the truth?

My main camera bag is a Domke F1, procured at a fantastic discount
when the camera shop I worked at in Pittsburgh went out of business.

I have a separate bag for my medium format kit.

And a small sling bag for use when I'm traveling by bicycle.

And a Lowepro backpack for transporting serious amounts of kit.

And a small waist pack for hiking.

Plus two other bags of intermediate size.

My go-to camera bag for travel is actually a freebie messenger bag I
got at a conference a few years ago. It holds a thin laptop (or a
tablet) and a body plus a couple of lenses. It doesn't look like a
camera bag. It doesn't look "touristy". And it's held closed by two
quick-release buckles plus two Velcro strips, so it's a tricky target
for pickpockets. It's falling to bits but it's probably my most used
option in cities.
 
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Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-04-30 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Alan, 
Maybe it "didn't go" because of the bag's name, "No va" ? ;)


https://www.lowepro.com/nova

Cheers,

Igor

PS. "no va" in Spanish "[it/he/she] does not go"


Alan C Mon, 30 Apr 2018 06:05:28 -0700 wrote:

Didn't go the first time.

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"In brief, there is no perfect bag, but there may be acceptable compromises
depending on work style and other circumstances"

Yes & Yes. I manage with 2 vintage shoulder bags.

Alan C



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Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-04-30 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Yep, you've got what I am looking for.
I wish this was sold in the US, so that I can see it in person in
a store, or at least order from Amazon and return in case I didn't like 
it.


That's why I am curious if anybody has seen similar designs from other 
brands.


Igor


Sat Apr 28 15:30:43 EDT 2018 P. J. Alling wrote:

I'm a bit skeptical of these sorts of things.  When I was doing a lot of 
work travel I got a convertible travel bag, that could be worn like a 
backpack, but could also be carried like a suitcase. It wasn't really good 
at either, though it made a better backpack than suitcase.


The design of the hybrid photo bag looks like it's a shoulder bag that
you can wear as a backpack with limitations.  If that's what you want it
looks good.


On 4/27/2018 8:57 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I came across an interesting photo bag. It's a hybrid of a shoulder
bag and a backpack:
https://www.manfrotto.co.uk/ng-australia-3way-camera-bag-for-dslr
It looks like it was launched about a year ago.

Unfortunately, it is still not available for sale in the US
(except for eBay, where it becomes overpriced on top of being 

expensive).


This is a type of a bag that I am looking for.
I have been enjoying Vanguard Up-rise II 33: it allows carrying a
travel camera+ set and a laptop. And it has been passing as a
"personal item"
on airplane flights.
With the quick-access zipper at the top, it is very convenient to
photograph from while on the road.


The main thing I'd wanted to change/add to it is the option of
carrying it as a backpack, - to ease the load on my back. So, in that
regard the Manfrotto/NG hybrid bag would be great.


So, I wonder if anybody has seen other "hybrid" bags
(backpack-shoulder bag) from other brands?


Igor



References:
Vanguard Up-Rise II 33 messenger bag (discontinued):
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/999064-REG/vanguard_up_rise_ii_33_messenger.html

Alta Rise 33 looks very similar:


https://www.vanguardworld.us/photo_video_us/products/camera-bags/alta-access-33x.html#go-sectionTop





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Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-04-29 Thread Stanley Halpin
The Lower Prorunner 350AW is my travel bag. 70-200/2.8 on one side, 15-30 in 
the middle below the K-1+24-70/2.8. Spare body next to the 15-30, remaining 
room in the main compartment for spare batteries, chargers, whatever. Back 
pocket for iPad and paper files (I used to carry a 13” laptop there), front 
pocket for little stuff like SD Cards, car keys, phone… This all fits under the 
seat in CRJ regional jets. If I have a tripod along, it straps to the outside, 
is removed and placed in the overhead on the plane so that the bag will fit 
under the seat.

But once I am at a destination, I switch to a Domke shoulder bag which is 
barely large enough to carry a K-1 with one of the shorter lenses, the K-1 + 
70-200 is on my shoulder or around my neck. I have tried about 4 different 
larger shoulder bags, all feel too large and awkward to me. So my tradeoff is 
to carry less, try to plan more carefully what I need when I am out and about 
away from my base where the 350AW stays with the remainder of my gear. Unless 
of course I am shooting not too far from my transportation and I can leave the 
larger bag there to be delved into if needed.

In brief, there is no perfect bag, but there may be acceptable compromises 
depending on work style and other circumstances.

sta


> On Apr 28, 2018, at 3:13 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> I absolutely love my fastpak 350 for my aps gear, but it hasn't worked so 
> well for my K-1. I just had an errand in sf around the corner from Samy's and 
> while in there I looked at bags. They have the tenba shootout 24l which seems 
> very nice, but it is just too small to carry my monopod inside, so I'm 
> curious about the 32l version.
> 
> On April 27, 2018 5:57:39 AM PDT, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I came across an interesting photo bag. It's a hybrid of a 
>> shoulder bag and a backpack:
>> https://www.manfrotto.co.uk/ng-australia-3way-camera-bag-for-dslr
>> It looks like it was launched about a year ago.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, it is still not available for sale in the US
>> (except for eBay, where it becomes overpriced on top of being
>> expensive).
>> 
>> This is a type of a bag that I am looking for.
>> I have been enjoying Vanguard Up-rise II 33: it allows carrying a
>> travel 
>> camera+ set and a laptop. And it has been passing as a "personal item"
>> on airplane flights.
>> With the quick-access zipper at the top, it is very convenient to 
>> photograph from while on the road.
>> 
>> 
>> The main thing I'd wanted to change/add to it is the option of carrying
>> it 
>> as a backpack, - to ease the load on my back. So, in that regard the 
>> Manfrotto/NG hybrid bag would be great.
>> 
>> 
>> So, I wonder if anybody has seen other "hybrid" bags (backpack-shoulder
>> 
>> bag) from other brands?
>> 
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> References:
>> Vanguard Up-Rise II 33 messenger bag (discontinued):
>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/999064-REG/vanguard_up_rise_ii_33_messenger.html
>> Alta Rise 33 looks very similar:
>> https://www.vanguardworld.us/photo_video_us/products/camera-bags/alta-access-33x.html#go-sectionTop
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-04-28 Thread John

Which is *WHY* the infernal quest is eternal.

On 4/28/2018 15:31, P. J. Alling wrote:

There are no perfect camera bags.


On 4/27/2018 2:53 PM, John wrote:

The ETERNAL quest (or is that the infernal quest?) for the *perfect* camera bag.

On 4/27/2018 08:57, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I came across an interesting photo bag. It's a hybrid of a shoulder bag and a 
backpack:

https://www.manfrotto.co.uk/ng-australia-3way-camera-bag-for-dslr
It looks like it was launched about a year ago.



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Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-04-28 Thread lrc


On April 28, 2018 12:31:43 PM PDT, "P. J. Alling"  
wrote:
>There are no perfect camera bags. 
>

Not quite true, there can  be a perfect camera bag for a particular day with 
particular gear.  But the next time you need to carry your camera someplace 
it's likely to totally suck.

>
>On 4/27/2018 2:53 PM, John wrote:
>> The ETERNAL quest (or is that the infernal quest?) for the *perfect* 
>> camera bag.
>>
>> On 4/27/2018 08:57, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I came across an interesting photo bag. It's a hybrid of a shoulder 
>>> bag and a backpack:
>>> https://www.manfrotto.co.uk/ng-australia-3way-camera-bag-for-dslr
>>> It looks like it was launched about a year ago.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, it is still not available for sale in the US
>>> (except for eBay, where it becomes overpriced on top of being 
>>> expensive).
>>>
>>> This is a type of a bag that I am looking for.
>>> I have been enjoying Vanguard Up-rise II 33: it allows carrying a 
>>> travel camera+ set and a laptop. And it has been passing as a 
>>> "personal item"
>>> on airplane flights.
>>> With the quick-access zipper at the top, it is very convenient to 
>>> photograph from while on the road.
>>>
>>>
>>> The main thing I'd wanted to change/add to it is the option of 
>>> carrying it as a backpack, - to ease the load on my back. So, in
>that 
>>> regard the Manfrotto/NG hybrid bag would be great.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, I wonder if anybody has seen other "hybrid" bags 
>>> (backpack-shoulder bag) from other brands?
>>>
>>>
>>> Igor
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> References:
>>> Vanguard Up-Rise II 33 messenger bag (discontinued):
>>>
>https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/999064-REG/vanguard_up_rise_ii_33_messenger.html
>
>>>
>>> Alta Rise 33 looks very similar:
>>>
>https://www.vanguardworld.us/photo_video_us/products/camera-bags/alta-access-33x.html#go-sectionTop
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

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Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling

There are no perfect camera bags.


On 4/27/2018 2:53 PM, John wrote:
The ETERNAL quest (or is that the infernal quest?) for the *perfect* 
camera bag.


On 4/27/2018 08:57, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I came across an interesting photo bag. It's a hybrid of a shoulder 
bag and a backpack:

https://www.manfrotto.co.uk/ng-australia-3way-camera-bag-for-dslr
It looks like it was launched about a year ago.

Unfortunately, it is still not available for sale in the US
(except for eBay, where it becomes overpriced on top of being 
expensive).


This is a type of a bag that I am looking for.
I have been enjoying Vanguard Up-rise II 33: it allows carrying a 
travel camera+ set and a laptop. And it has been passing as a 
"personal item"

on airplane flights.
With the quick-access zipper at the top, it is very convenient to 
photograph from while on the road.



The main thing I'd wanted to change/add to it is the option of 
carrying it as a backpack, - to ease the load on my back. So, in that 
regard the Manfrotto/NG hybrid bag would be great.



So, I wonder if anybody has seen other "hybrid" bags 
(backpack-shoulder bag) from other brands?



Igor



References:
Vanguard Up-Rise II 33 messenger bag (discontinued):
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/999064-REG/vanguard_up_rise_ii_33_messenger.html 


Alta Rise 33 looks very similar:
https://www.vanguardworld.us/photo_video_us/products/camera-bags/alta-access-33x.html#go-sectionTop 











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Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm a bit skeptical of these sorts of things.  When I was doing a lot of 
work travel I got a convertible travel bag, that could be worn like a 
backpack, but could also be carried like a suitcase. It wasn't really 
good at either, though it made a better backpack than suitcase.


The design of the hybrid photo bag looks like it's a shoulder bag that 
you can wear as a backpack with limitations.  If that's what you want it 
looks good.



On 4/27/2018 8:57 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I came across an interesting photo bag. It's a hybrid of a shoulder 
bag and a backpack:

https://www.manfrotto.co.uk/ng-australia-3way-camera-bag-for-dslr
It looks like it was launched about a year ago.

Unfortunately, it is still not available for sale in the US
(except for eBay, where it becomes overpriced on top of being expensive).

This is a type of a bag that I am looking for.
I have been enjoying Vanguard Up-rise II 33: it allows carrying a 
travel camera+ set and a laptop. And it has been passing as a 
"personal item"

on airplane flights.
With the quick-access zipper at the top, it is very convenient to 
photograph from while on the road.



The main thing I'd wanted to change/add to it is the option of 
carrying it as a backpack, - to ease the load on my back. So, in that 
regard the Manfrotto/NG hybrid bag would be great.



So, I wonder if anybody has seen other "hybrid" bags 
(backpack-shoulder bag) from other brands?



Igor



References:
Vanguard Up-Rise II 33 messenger bag (discontinued):
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/999064-REG/vanguard_up_rise_ii_33_messenger.html 


Alta Rise 33 looks very similar:
https://www.vanguardworld.us/photo_video_us/products/camera-bags/alta-access-33x.html#go-sectionTop 








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Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-04-28 Thread lrc
I absolutely love my fastpak 350 for my aps gear, but it hasn't worked so well 
for my K-1. I just had an errand in sf around the corner from Samy's and while 
in there I looked at bags. They have the tenba shootout 24l which seems very 
nice, but it is just too small to carry my monopod inside, so I'm curious about 
the 32l version.

On April 27, 2018 5:57:39 AM PDT, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
>
>I came across an interesting photo bag. It's a hybrid of a 
>shoulder bag and a backpack:
>https://www.manfrotto.co.uk/ng-australia-3way-camera-bag-for-dslr
>It looks like it was launched about a year ago.
>
>Unfortunately, it is still not available for sale in the US
>(except for eBay, where it becomes overpriced on top of being
>expensive).
>
>This is a type of a bag that I am looking for.
>I have been enjoying Vanguard Up-rise II 33: it allows carrying a
>travel 
>camera+ set and a laptop. And it has been passing as a "personal item"
>on airplane flights.
>With the quick-access zipper at the top, it is very convenient to 
>photograph from while on the road.
>
>
>The main thing I'd wanted to change/add to it is the option of carrying
>it 
>as a backpack, - to ease the load on my back. So, in that regard the 
>Manfrotto/NG hybrid bag would be great.
>
>
>So, I wonder if anybody has seen other "hybrid" bags (backpack-shoulder
>
>bag) from other brands?
>
>
>Igor
>
>
>
>References:
>Vanguard Up-Rise II 33 messenger bag (discontinued):
>https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/999064-REG/vanguard_up_rise_ii_33_messenger.html
>Alta Rise 33 looks very similar:
>https://www.vanguardworld.us/photo_video_us/products/camera-bags/alta-access-33x.html#go-sectionTop
>
>
>
>
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Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-04-28 Thread John
I've come to the conclusion that what I really need is a TARDIS disguised as a 
camera bag.


n 4/27/2018 16:40, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Maybe.

But I look at it as using the right tool for the right job.
I have different bags for different purposes:
1. Local travel (by car), with lots of options (2 bodies, many lenses).
2. Air-travel (1 body with 2 zooms and 2-4 primes).
and some variations of those...

E.g. I had different bags for informal/leisure travel (outdoors, etc. where I am 
not taking my laptop), and for work-related or work-included travel, when laptop 
travels with me, and when on location (e.g. at the conference) I need (or would 
prefer) to carry both the laptop and the camera at the same time, - so that a 
single bag for both is preferred.


Igor


  John Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:55:09 -0700 wrote:

The ETERNAL quest (or is that the infernal quest?) for the *perfect* camera bag.






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Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-04-27 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Maybe.

But I look at it as using the right tool for the right job.
I have different bags for different purposes:
1. Local travel (by car), with lots of options (2 bodies, many lenses).
2. Air-travel (1 body with 2 zooms and 2-4 primes).
and some variations of those...

E.g. I had different bags for informal/leisure travel (outdoors, etc. 
where I am not taking my laptop), and for work-related or work-included 
travel, when laptop travels with me, and when on location (e.g. at the 
conference) I need (or would prefer) to carry both the laptop and the 
camera at the same time, - so that a single bag for both is preferred.


Igor


 John Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:55:09 -0700 wrote:

The ETERNAL quest (or is that the infernal quest?) for the *perfect* 
camera bag.




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Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-04-27 Thread John

The ETERNAL quest (or is that the infernal quest?) for the *perfect* camera bag.

On 4/27/2018 08:57, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I came across an interesting photo bag. It's a hybrid of a shoulder bag and a 
backpack:

https://www.manfrotto.co.uk/ng-australia-3way-camera-bag-for-dslr
It looks like it was launched about a year ago.

Unfortunately, it is still not available for sale in the US
(except for eBay, where it becomes overpriced on top of being expensive).

This is a type of a bag that I am looking for.
I have been enjoying Vanguard Up-rise II 33: it allows carrying a travel camera+ 
set and a laptop. And it has been passing as a "personal item"

on airplane flights.
With the quick-access zipper at the top, it is very convenient to photograph 
from while on the road.



The main thing I'd wanted to change/add to it is the option of carrying it as a 
backpack, - to ease the load on my back. So, in that regard the Manfrotto/NG 
hybrid bag would be great.



So, I wonder if anybody has seen other "hybrid" bags (backpack-shoulder bag) 
from other brands?



Igor



References:
Vanguard Up-Rise II 33 messenger bag (discontinued):
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/999064-REG/vanguard_up_rise_ii_33_messenger.html 


Alta Rise 33 looks very similar:
https://www.vanguardworld.us/photo_video_us/products/camera-bags/alta-access-33x.html#go-sectionTop 









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Re: Interesting "hybrid" (3-way) photo bag

2018-04-27 Thread Bob W-PDML
It has always been possible to buy rucksack straps for Domke shoulder bags.

> On 27 Apr 2018, at 13:58, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I came across an interesting photo bag. It's a hybrid of a shoulder bag and a 
> backpack:
> https://www.manfrotto.co.uk/ng-australia-3way-camera-bag-for-dslr
> It looks like it was launched about a year ago.
> 
> Unfortunately, it is still not available for sale in the US
> (except for eBay, where it becomes overpriced on top of being expensive).
> 
> This is a type of a bag that I am looking for.
> I have been enjoying Vanguard Up-rise II 33: it allows carrying a travel 
> camera+ set and a laptop. And it has been passing as a "personal item"
> on airplane flights.
> With the quick-access zipper at the top, it is very convenient to photograph 
> from while on the road.
> 
> 
> The main thing I'd wanted to change/add to it is the option of carrying it as 
> a backpack, - to ease the load on my back. So, in that regard the 
> Manfrotto/NG hybrid bag would be great.
> 
> 
> So, I wonder if anybody has seen other "hybrid" bags (backpack-shoulder bag) 
> from other brands?
> 
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> 
> References:
> Vanguard Up-Rise II 33 messenger bag (discontinued):
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/999064-REG/vanguard_up_rise_ii_33_messenger.html
> Alta Rise 33 looks very similar:
> https://www.vanguardworld.us/photo_video_us/products/camera-bags/alta-access-33x.html#go-sectionTop
> 
> 
> 
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