Re: K-3 ban on commenting on image quality
I'm wondering the same thing myself. A lot of people are concerned with shadow noise and banding. Its actually pretty normal for companies to prevent people from saving images on preproduction cameras, but I don't know why people aren't allowed to talk about IQ. I'm just patiently waiting for dpreview and dxomark to shed some light on the K-3. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:47 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: seems weird to me that pentax is telling all those handling the pre-production samples of the cameras not to comment on the image quality of the cameras at such a late date. Are they expecting some miracle firmware to come in an save the day at the last second? Could there be a fly in the ointment here? ? ? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 ban on commenting on image quality
On 13/10/2013 12:47 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: seems weird to me that pentax is telling all those handling the pre-production samples of the cameras not to comment on the image quality of the cameras at such a late date. Are they expecting some miracle firmware to come in an save the day at the last second? Could there be a fly in the ointment here? ? ? It's a very competitive business. I suspect Ricoh figures keeping the competition in the dark is important. There are official images on the Pentax website. It also wouldn't surprise me if they are still tweaking things like NR levels and the like. A number of years ago I was handed pre-production samples of the 16-50/2.8 and 50-135/2.8 and told to go off and have fun, but I wasn't to publish images from the lenses until after the release date. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 ban on commenting on image quality
To me it makes perfect sense. Until product is fully out, it makes absolutely no sense to publish any samples. Not once and not twice such disclosure had produced very untoward effects to gear makers. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/10/2013 12:47 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: seems weird to me that pentax is telling all those handling the pre-production samples of the cameras not to comment on the image quality of the cameras at such a late date. Are they expecting some miracle firmware to come in an save the day at the last second? Could there be a fly in the ointment here? ? ? It's a very competitive business. I suspect Ricoh figures keeping the competition in the dark is important. There are official images on the Pentax website. It also wouldn't surprise me if they are still tweaking things like NR levels and the like. A number of years ago I was handed pre-production samples of the 16-50/2.8 and 50-135/2.8 and told to go off and have fun, but I wasn't to publish images from the lenses until after the release date. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 ban on commenting on image quality
I think it is an interesting question. While one site said that Pentax/Ricoh did not want images produced from pre-production firmware, it is obvious from the official samples that they do have v1.00 firmware (although it may not be the version installed on the pre-production cameras). I tend to think that the firmware writing department and the manual writing department are given a bit later deadline than the product announcement department, especially when the holidays are rapidly approaching. Marketing could be involved as well, because they are already getting plenty of buzz from just the announcements and the few who get to do hands on reviews. That will die down a bit, and then they will be able to generate another big wave when they allow images to be reproduceds (and yet another big wave when the pre-order people begin crowing about receiving them and showing off shots). So it is a way of extending the buzz a bit. I'll be curious to see when it is that they actually show up for order (as opposed to pre-order) on the big sites. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/10/2013 12:47 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: seems weird to me that pentax is telling all those handling the pre-production samples of the cameras not to comment on the image quality of the cameras at such a late date. Are they expecting some miracle firmware to come in an save the day at the last second? Could there be a fly in the ointment here? ? ? It's a very competitive business. I suspect Ricoh figures keeping the competition in the dark is important. There are official images on the Pentax website. It also wouldn't surprise me if they are still tweaking things like NR levels and the like. A number of years ago I was handed pre-production samples of the 16-50/2.8 and 50-135/2.8 and told to go off and have fun, but I wasn't to publish images from the lenses until after the release date. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 ban on commenting on image quality
I was listening to the This Week In Photography podcast yesterday. The K3 was mentioned in the news section and discussed a bit. Derrick Story was very positive about Pentax. He said he had been given a K-2 for review. I think he meant K-7, because he mentioned it in earlier blog posts. Anyway, after he had to return the review unit he said he went out and bought one with his own money. That's interesting behavior for a guy that was primarily a Canon shooter for so many years. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is an interesting question. While one site said that Pentax/Ricoh did not want images produced from pre-production firmware, it is obvious from the official samples that they do have v1.00 firmware (although it may not be the version installed on the pre-production cameras). I tend to think that the firmware writing department and the manual writing department are given a bit later deadline than the product announcement department, especially when the holidays are rapidly approaching. Marketing could be involved as well, because they are already getting plenty of buzz from just the announcements and the few who get to do hands on reviews. That will die down a bit, and then they will be able to generate another big wave when they allow images to be reproduceds (and yet another big wave when the pre-order people begin crowing about receiving them and showing off shots). So it is a way of extending the buzz a bit. I'll be curious to see when it is that they actually show up for order (as opposed to pre-order) on the big sites. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/10/2013 12:47 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: seems weird to me that pentax is telling all those handling the pre-production samples of the cameras not to comment on the image quality of the cameras at such a late date. Are they expecting some miracle firmware to come in an save the day at the last second? Could there be a fly in the ointment here? ? ? It's a very competitive business. I suspect Ricoh figures keeping the competition in the dark is important. There are official images on the Pentax website. It also wouldn't surprise me if they are still tweaking things like NR levels and the like. A number of years ago I was handed pre-production samples of the 16-50/2.8 and 50-135/2.8 and told to go off and have fun, but I wasn't to publish images from the lenses until after the release date. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
