Re: K20D shutter button question (update)
I think it is: it just means more possibility to move the camera. I liked my old Minolta XD11 with its touch-sensitive switching ... just touch the shutter release (but only with skin! ... galvanic surface switch stuff) and the meter was armed and ready, so making an exposure meant just a tiny movement to depress the release. G On Aug 5, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Jos from Holland wrote: > Right, I have the same experience. > I noticed that I press the button till the camera reacts with > focussing > etcetera and not so much till I feel the presure point. > Maybe the presure point is just redundant in modern DSLRs? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question (update)
Right, I have the same experience. I noticed that I press the button till the camera reacts with focussing etcetera and not so much till I feel the presure point. Maybe the presure point is just redundant in modern DSLRs? Jos Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > The shutter release on my K10D similarly has a very short throw and > requires only very light pressure in the first section to the point of > switching on the meter and such. However, in over a year and a half of > using the camera, it has never been actuated accidentally that I'm > aware of. > > G > > On Aug 5, 2008, at 5:50 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: > > >> That's exactly what I was afraid of... >> ;-) >> >> >> >> - Mensaje original >> De: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Enviado: martes, 5 de agosto, 2008 0:48:50 >> Asunto: Re: K20D shutter button question (update) >> >> Bob Sullivan wrote: >> >> >>> I checked my K20D and have a button like yours. >>> If I just touch the button, the meter turns on and it autofocuses. >>> The pressure is very, very light - but I do SEE the button depress >>> 1mm. >>> If I apply pressure, I take a picture. >>> >> That's the way mine works. Though I've never tried it, it seems like >> blowing on the shutter release really hard would turn the meter on and >> start the autofocus cycle. :-) >> > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question (update)
The shutter release on my K10D similarly has a very short throw and requires only very light pressure in the first section to the point of switching on the meter and such. However, in over a year and a half of using the camera, it has never been actuated accidentally that I'm aware of. G On Aug 5, 2008, at 5:50 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: > That's exactly what I was afraid of... > ;-) > > > > - Mensaje original > De: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Enviado: martes, 5 de agosto, 2008 0:48:50 > Asunto: Re: K20D shutter button question (update) > > Bob Sullivan wrote: > >> I checked my K20D and have a button like yours. >> If I just touch the button, the meter turns on and it autofocuses. >> The pressure is very, very light - but I do SEE the button depress >> 1mm. >> If I apply pressure, I take a picture. > > That's the way mine works. Though I've never tried it, it seems like > blowing on the shutter release really hard would turn the meter on and > start the autofocus cycle. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question (update)
That's exactly what I was afraid of... ;-) - Mensaje original De: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Enviado: martes, 5 de agosto, 2008 0:48:50 Asunto: Re: K20D shutter button question (update) Bob Sullivan wrote: > I checked my K20D and have a button like yours. > If I just touch the button, the meter turns on and it autofocuses. > The pressure is very, very light - but I do SEE the button depress 1mm. > If I apply pressure, I take a picture. That's the way mine works. Though I've never tried it, it seems like blowing on the shutter release really hard would turn the meter on and start the autofocus cycle. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question (update)
Bob Sullivan wrote: > I checked my K20D and have a button like yours. > If I just touch the button, the meter turns on and it autofocuses. > The pressure is very, very light - but I do SEE the button depress 1mm. > If I apply pressure, I take a picture. That's the way mine works. Though I've never tried it, it seems like blowing on the shutter release really hard would turn the meter on and start the autofocus cycle. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
Whoa! Regards Bob... --- "I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings." -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) From: "Ken Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Annother button question: Why do we need an AF button on the back side?? >> >> Why do any of us need buttons on our backsides now that we have central >> heating? > > It's for your wife to push when you wander too far off... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question
Shake reduction or not, a light but positive shutter release is desirable for the same reason that a light but positive trigger pull is desired on a target weapon. My K20 feels like a ery light two stage target trigger. I quickly got used to it. Perhaps it would be nice for some folks if the shutter "weight" was adjustable in some manner similer to my target weapons? Regards Bob... --- "I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings." -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It's hard to say if there is K20D sample variation without doing actual > side-by-side comparisons. My "no resistance" might be Bill's "slight > resistance." Nevertheless, I found that I got used to the position where > the K20D activates autofocus without thinking about it. It's there whether > one feels it or not. And with a lot of shooting it becomes quite natural. > My K10D now feels a bit stiff, BTW. But that's because I rarely use it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question (update)
Jaume, I checked my K20D and have a button like yours. If I just touch the button, the meter turns on and it autofocuses. The pressure is very, very light - but I do SEE the button depress 1mm. If I apply pressure, I take a picture. The whole control is a little strange. It frequently gets stuck in the 'aperture stop down position' when I turn it on. I expected this to loosen up with use, but it is still that way. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Carlos. > > I think that definitely there is some sample variation here, at list with the > K10D. > This morning I have checked another K20D a K200D and a K10D and none had the > 2 steps. However, your K10D does, and it seems that someone in the list with > a K20D also had the 2 steps. > > OK, not a big deal, just wanted to make sure that both behaviours are > 'normal'. > > Regards, > Jaume > > > > > > - Mensaje original > De: Carlos Royo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Enviado: lunes, 4 de agosto, 2008 9:13:37 > Asunto: Re: K20D shutter button question > > Hi Jaume: > > I have just checked my K10D and it has two distinct "steps": focusing > and shutter activation. On the other hand, my MZ-S behaves exactly as > the K20D you have described. > > Carlos > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > > > __ > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question (update)
Thanks Carlos. I think that definitely there is some sample variation here, at list with the K10D. This morning I have checked another K20D a K200D and a K10D and none had the 2 steps. However, your K10D does, and it seems that someone in the list with a K20D also had the 2 steps. OK, not a big deal, just wanted to make sure that both behaviours are 'normal'. Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: Carlos Royo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Enviado: lunes, 4 de agosto, 2008 9:13:37 Asunto: Re: K20D shutter button question Hi Jaume: I have just checked my K10D and it has two distinct "steps": focusing and shutter activation. On the other hand, my MZ-S behaves exactly as the K20D you have described. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question
Hi Jaume: I have just checked my K10D and it has two distinct "steps": focusing and shutter activation. On the other hand, my MZ-S behaves exactly as the K20D you have described. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
> Annother button question: Why do we need an AF button on the back side?? > > Why do any of us need buttons on our backsides now that we have central > heating? It's for your wife to push when you wander too far off... Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Jens" > Subject: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question > > > Annother button question: Why do we need an AF button on the back side?? > > Why do any of us need buttons on our backsides now that we have central > heating? > WW > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question
- Original Message - Subject: Re: K20D shutter button question > It's hard to say if there is K20D sample variation without doing actual > side-by-side comparisons. My "no resistance" might be Bill's "slight > resistance." Nevertheless, I found that I got used to the position where > the K20D activates autofocus without thinking about it. It's there whether > one feels it or not. And with a lot of shooting it becomes quite natural. > My K10D now feels a bit stiff, BTW. But that's because I rarely use it. > Paul FWIW, I really do like the K20 shutter button feel. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
I think that manual doesn't refers to manual lenses but to 'manual-selection-of-focus-point' mode. In this mode, if he presses the AF button, the focus point moves to the center one. - Mensaje original De: Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Enviado: domingo, 3 de agosto, 2008 23:24:13 Asunto: Re: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question Thanks, Paul. I have set mine likewise, since I'd never really use it for focusing. The thing about manual lenses I don't understand. My manual lenses seem to work in such a way, that I get focus confirmation anyway - as far as I remember. Regards jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Aug 3, 2008 21:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The runction of theautofocus button on the rear of the camera can be > changed in the menus. I have mine set to center the autofocus sensor > spot when shooting in the manual select mode. I find that somewhat > useful. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jens" > > Subject: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question > > > > > > Annother button question: Why do we need an AF button on the back > > side?? > > > > Why do any of us need buttons on our backsides now that we have > > central > > heating? > > WW > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and follow > > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question
Right, I'll try to check this on more samples. If this 'issue' worries me is because I like the way my Ds goes to 'sleep' mode when it is inactive and I forgot to switch it off. When I want to turn it on again I have to press the shutter 'consciously'. With the K20D shutter action that I observed, I had the impression that it can be easy to turn on accidentally when in 'stand-by' (in a bag for instance). Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Enviado: domingo, 3 de agosto, 2008 23:11:54 Asunto: Re: K20D shutter button question It's hard to say if there is K20D sample variation without doing actual side-by-side comparisons. My "no resistance" might be Bill's "slight resistance." Nevertheless, I found that I got used to the position where the K20D activates autofocus without thinking about it. It's there whether one feels it or not. And with a lot of shooting it becomes quite natural. My K10D now feels a bit stiff, BTW. But that's because I rarely use it. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Tim Øsleby > > >My K20D has a distinct two step feeling. > > >William Robb > >The activation on mine requires very little pressure, and very little > deflection of the button also. > > So it seems that there is some kind of sample variation here. > Personally I prefer having the 2 step feeling. > > Jaume > > 2008/8/3 Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I have noticed a difference between the K20D shutter button action and the > rest of AF cameras I own (istDs, Optio W20, MZ-5n...). > > > > In the latter, the buttons have 2 clear 'positions'. A first one in order > > to > focus and meter, and a second one in order to actually shot. For both one has > to > push and one notices that he is activating it (i don't know how to describe > it > more precisely in English, sorry). > > In the K20D unit I am testing, the first 'push' is unnoticeable, I mean, > > the > only resistance that one notices in the button is for the actual shooting. > This > means that the slightest pressure on the button already activates shutter and > focus. A bit disturbing since all cameras I have used before had these 2 > positions (except maybe a Mark III that I hold for a few minutes. I tried to > meter and, before even notice it, I had already made 10 pictures or so...) > > > > So, is this normal or is this a kind of faulty unit? > > > > Thanks, > > Jaume > > > > > > > > __ > > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > the directions. > > > > > > -- > MaritimTim > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > > __ > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. ¿No te gusta tu dirección de correo? Consigue una que te guste de verdad - millones de direcciones de correo disponibles en Yahoo! http://es.docs.yahoo.com/mail/nueva_direccion.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
Thanks, Paul. I have set mine likewise, since I'd never really use it for focusing. The thing about manual lenses I don't understand. My manual lenses seem to work in such a way, that I get focus confirmation anyway - as far as I remember. Regards jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Aug 3, 2008 21:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The runction of theautofocus button on the rear of the camera can be > changed in the menus. I have mine set to center the autofocus sensor > spot when shooting in the manual select mode. I find that somewhat > useful. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jens" > > Subject: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question > > > > > > Annother button question: Why do we need an AF button on the back > > side?? > > > > Why do any of us need buttons on our backsides now that we have > > central > > heating? > > WW > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and follow > > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question
It's hard to say if there is K20D sample variation without doing actual side-by-side comparisons. My "no resistance" might be Bill's "slight resistance." Nevertheless, I found that I got used to the position where the K20D activates autofocus without thinking about it. It's there whether one feels it or not. And with a lot of shooting it becomes quite natural. My K10D now feels a bit stiff, BTW. But that's because I rarely use it. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Tim Øsleby > > >My K20D has a distinct two step feeling. > > >William Robb > >The activation on mine requires very little pressure, and very little > deflection of the button also. > > So it seems that there is some kind of sample variation here. > Personally I prefer having the 2 step feeling. > > Jaume > > 2008/8/3 Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I have noticed a difference between the K20D shutter button action and the > rest of AF cameras I own (istDs, Optio W20, MZ-5n...). > > > > In the latter, the buttons have 2 clear 'positions'. A first one in order > > to > focus and meter, and a second one in order to actually shot. For both one has > to > push and one notices that he is activating it (i don't know how to describe > it > more precisely in English, sorry). > > In the K20D unit I am testing, the first 'push' is unnoticeable, I mean, > > the > only resistance that one notices in the button is for the actual shooting. > This > means that the slightest pressure on the button already activates shutter and > focus. A bit disturbing since all cameras I have used before had these 2 > positions (except maybe a Mark III that I hold for a few minutes. I tried to > meter and, before even notice it, I had already made 10 pictures or so...) > > > > So, is this normal or is this a kind of faulty unit? > > > > Thanks, > > Jaume > > > > > > > > __ > > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > the directions. > > > > > > -- > MaritimTim > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > > __ > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question
>Tim Øsleby >My K20D has a distinct two step feeling. >William Robb >The activation on mine requires very little pressure, and very little deflection of the button also. So it seems that there is some kind of sample variation here. Personally I prefer having the 2 step feeling. Jaume 2008/8/3 Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have noticed a difference between the K20D shutter button action and the > rest of AF cameras I own (istDs, Optio W20, MZ-5n...). > > In the latter, the buttons have 2 clear 'positions'. A first one in order to > focus and meter, and a second one in order to actually shot. For both one has > to push and one notices that he is activating it (i don't know how to > describe it more precisely in English, sorry). > In the K20D unit I am testing, the first 'push' is unnoticeable, I mean, the > only resistance that one notices in the button is for the actual shooting. > This means that the slightest pressure on the button already activates > shutter and focus. A bit disturbing since all cameras I have used before had > these 2 positions (except maybe a Mark III that I hold for a few minutes. I > tried to meter and, before even notice it, I had already made 10 pictures or > so...) > > So, is this normal or is this a kind of faulty unit? > > Thanks, > Jaume > > > > __ > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
The runction of theautofocus button on the rear of the camera can be changed in the menus. I have mine set to center the autofocus sensor spot when shooting in the manual select mode. I find that somewhat useful. Paul -- Original message -- From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > - Original Message - > From: "Jens" > Subject: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question > > > Annother button question: Why do we need an AF button on the back side?? > > Why do any of us need buttons on our backsides now that we have central > heating? > WW > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
Because you can set the AF system so it's not activated by the shutter half-press, but only by the AF button. That configuration works very well with lenses that have Full-Time Manual focusing like most DA's, it gives you manual focus with AF when you want it. In fact that's how my D300 is currently configured. -Adam On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Annother button question: Why do we need an AF button on the back side?? > Regards > Jens > -- > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > > On Aug 3, 2008 17:58 "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My K20D has a distinct two step feeling. >> 2008/8/3 Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > I have noticed a difference between the K20D shutter button action >> > and the rest of AF cameras I own (istDs, Optio W20, MZ-5n...). >> > >> > In the latter, the buttons have 2 clear 'positions'. A first one in >> > order to focus and meter, and a second one in order to actually >> > shot. For both one has to push and one notices that he is activating >> > it (i don't know how to describe it more precisely in English, >> > sorry). >> > In the K20D unit I am testing, the first 'push' is unnoticeable, I >> > mean, the only resistance that one notices in the button is for the >> > actual shooting. This means that the slightest pressure on the >> > button already activates shutter and focus. A bit disturbing since >> > all cameras I have used before had these 2 positions (except maybe a >> > Mark III that I hold for a few minutes. I tried to meter and, before >> > even notice it, I had already made 10 pictures or so...) >> > >> > So, is this normal or is this a kind of faulty unit? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Jaume >> > >> > >> > >> > __ >> > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > PDML@pdml.net >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> > and follow the directions. >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> MaritimTim >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
- Original Message - From: "Jens" Subject: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question Annother button question: Why do we need an AF button on the back side?? Why do any of us need buttons on our backsides now that we have central heating? WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
Annother button question: Why do we need an AF button on the back side?? Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Aug 3, 2008 17:58 "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My K20D has a distinct two step feeling. > 2008/8/3 Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I have noticed a difference between the K20D shutter button action > > and the rest of AF cameras I own (istDs, Optio W20, MZ-5n...). > > > > In the latter, the buttons have 2 clear 'positions'. A first one in > > order to focus and meter, and a second one in order to actually > > shot. For both one has to push and one notices that he is activating > > it (i don't know how to describe it more precisely in English, > > sorry). > > In the K20D unit I am testing, the first 'push' is unnoticeable, I > > mean, the only resistance that one notices in the button is for the > > actual shooting. This means that the slightest pressure on the > > button already activates shutter and focus. A bit disturbing since > > all cameras I have used before had these 2 positions (except maybe a > > Mark III that I hold for a few minutes. I tried to meter and, before > > even notice it, I had already made 10 pictures or so...) > > > > So, is this normal or is this a kind of faulty unit? > > > > Thanks, > > Jaume > > > > > > > > __ > > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > MaritimTim > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
I second that, Tim, even though the first part is very soft, hardly a notisble resistance. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Aug 3, 2008 17:58 "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My K20D has a distinct two step feeling. > 2008/8/3 Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I have noticed a difference between the K20D shutter button action > > and the rest of AF cameras I own (istDs, Optio W20, MZ-5n...). > > > > In the latter, the buttons have 2 clear 'positions'. A first one in > > order to focus and meter, and a second one in order to actually > > shot. For both one has to push and one notices that he is activating > > it (i don't know how to describe it more precisely in English, > > sorry). > > In the K20D unit I am testing, the first 'push' is unnoticeable, I > > mean, the only resistance that one notices in the button is for the > > actual shooting. This means that the slightest pressure on the > > button already activates shutter and focus. A bit disturbing since > > all cameras I have used before had these 2 positions (except maybe a > > Mark III that I hold for a few minutes. I tried to meter and, before > > even notice it, I had already made 10 pictures or so...) > > > > So, is this normal or is this a kind of faulty unit? > > > > Thanks, > > Jaume > > > > > > > > __ > > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > MaritimTim > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question
- Original Message - From: "Jaume Lahuerta" Subject: K20D shutter button question I have noticed a difference between the K20D shutter button action and the rest of AF cameras I own (istDs, Optio W20, MZ-5n...). In the latter, the buttons have 2 clear 'positions'. A first one in order to focus and meter, and a second one in order to actually shot. For both one has to push and one notices that he is activating it (i don't know how to describe it more precisely in English, sorry). In the K20D unit I am testing, the first 'push' is unnoticeable, I mean, the only resistance that one notices in the button is for the actual shooting. This means that the slightest pressure on the button already activates shutter and focus. A bit disturbing since all cameras I have used before had these 2 positions (except maybe a Mark III that I hold for a few minutes. I tried to meter and, before even notice it, I had already made 10 pictures or so...) So, is this normal or is this a kind of faulty unit? The activation on mine requires very little pressure, and very little deflection of the button also. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D shutter button question
My K20D has a distinct two step feeling. 2008/8/3 Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have noticed a difference between the K20D shutter button action and the > rest of AF cameras I own (istDs, Optio W20, MZ-5n...). > > In the latter, the buttons have 2 clear 'positions'. A first one in order to > focus and meter, and a second one in order to actually shot. For both one has > to push and one notices that he is activating it (i don't know how to > describe it more precisely in English, sorry). > In the K20D unit I am testing, the first 'push' is unnoticeable, I mean, the > only resistance that one notices in the button is for the actual shooting. > This means that the slightest pressure on the button already activates > shutter and focus. A bit disturbing since all cameras I have used before had > these 2 positions (except maybe a Mark III that I hold for a few minutes. I > tried to meter and, before even notice it, I had already made 10 pictures or > so...) > > So, is this normal or is this a kind of faulty unit? > > Thanks, > Jaume > > > > __ > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
