Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???

2005-12-21 Thread Thibouille
Normal people  don't even change camera settings anyway ;)
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Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???

2005-12-17 Thread David Mann

On Dec 17, 2005, at 2:10 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


I also have a problem with these web pages and video clips of
photographers chimping because there's no way of telling if that's
what the people pictured are actually doing: They could just as easily
be viewing their histogram displays or changing camera settings via a
menu system.


Which is *exactly* what I don't want to be doing in the field.

If you're fidding with your camera you're missing opportunities.

- Dave




Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???

2005-12-17 Thread Mark Roberts
David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Dec 17, 2005, at 2:10 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 I also have a problem with these web pages and video clips of
 photographers chimping because there's no way of telling if that's
 what the people pictured are actually doing: They could just as easily
 be viewing their histogram displays or changing camera settings via a
 menu system.

Which is *exactly* what I don't want to be doing in the field.

If you're fidding with your camera you're missing opportunities.

Yeah, but sometimes if you don't fiddle with your camera you miss
*shots*.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???

2005-12-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Glen wrote:
 

 I don't consider what I do to be chimping, as defined by that very fun
 little video clip. As for the other photographer, I saw some of his shots
 later. I think he should have checked his LCD more often.  ;)
 
 take care,
 Glen
 

I thought/think the term has come to mean simply
checking the shots you
just took in the field... we had a discussion a
while back on the list about
who chimped and who didn't (at which time I asked
your question - though I
kinda got the idea from a couple of things that
were said)

I think it is a cute phrase and goes nicely with
monkeying around :)

ann



Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???

2005-12-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I had one photographer tease me about looking at my LCD after taking some 
shots, but I don't consider what I did any different than a first-rate 
advertising photographer shooting and inspecting a Polaroid preview image. 
Some of the biggest names in the business shot Polaroid tests. In fact, it 
was a mark of professionals, not amateurs.

This particular photographer asked me what I would have done if I had been 
shooting with my film camera. I said I would have worried more about 
whether I got the exact shot I wanted, had it been film. With digital, I 
can know exactly when I have the shot I want and move on to something else. 
It actually makes more efficient use of my time, to look at the capture.

I don't consider what I do to be chimping, as defined by that very fun 
little video clip. As for the other photographer, I saw some of his shots 
later. I think he should have checked his LCD more often.  ;)

Good points, all.

I also have a problem with these web pages and video clips of
photographers chimping because there's no way of telling if that's
what the people pictured are actually doing: They could just as easily
be viewing their histogram displays or changing camera settings via a
menu system.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???

2005-12-15 Thread Glen

At 10:01 AM 12/15/2005, Christian wrote:


It also prevents chimping!  :-)


I always thought that was an odd term. Can someone please explain exactly 
what it means?


Apparently, it means something more than simply looking at the LCD screen, 
because an LCD hood wouldn't prevent looking at the display.


I'm also aware that the term has a negative connotation, but I'm not 
exactly sure why. (It would help if I knew what it meant.) ;)



thanks,
Glen



Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???

2005-12-15 Thread P. J. Alling

http://www.sportsshooter.com/special_feature/chimping/index.html

Glen wrote:


At 10:01 AM 12/15/2005, Christian wrote:


It also prevents chimping!  :-)



I always thought that was an odd term. Can someone please explain 
exactly what it means?


Apparently, it means something more than simply looking at the LCD 
screen, because an LCD hood wouldn't prevent looking at the display.


I'm also aware that the term has a negative connotation, but I'm not 
exactly sure why. (It would help if I knew what it meant.) ;)



thanks,
Glen





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Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???

2005-12-15 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:37:38PM -0500, Glen wrote:
 At 10:01 AM 12/15/2005, Christian wrote:
 
 It also prevents chimping!  :-)
 
 I always thought that was an odd term. Can someone please explain exactly 
 what it means?
 
 Apparently, it means something more than simply looking at the LCD screen, 


It does indeed.  It refers to the collective behaviour of a group of
photographers, all standing around peering at their LCD screens, and
going Oooh!  Oooh!  Oooh!

 I'm also aware that the term has a negative connotation, but I'm not 
 exactly sure why. (It would help if I knew what it meant.) ;)


There's an implication that quite apart from sounding like a bunch of
chimpanzees, the photographers are also not paying attention to the
world around them, and may well miss a shot because of this.  That's
especially likely with cameras which (unlike the Pentax DSLRs) can't
respond to a shutter press while in image review mode.




Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???

2005-12-15 Thread Glen

Thanks, that helped.  ;)

I had one photographer tease me about looking at my LCD after taking some 
shots, but I don't consider what I did any different than a first-rate 
advertising photographer shooting and inspecting a Polaroid preview image. 
Some of the biggest names in the business shot Polaroid tests. In fact, it 
was a mark of professionals, not amateurs.


This particular photographer asked me what I would have done if I had been 
shooting with my film camera. I said I would have worried more about 
whether I got the exact shot I wanted, had it been film. With digital, I 
can know exactly when I have the shot I want and move on to something else. 
It actually makes more efficient use of my time, to look at the capture.


I don't consider what I do to be chimping, as defined by that very fun 
little video clip. As for the other photographer, I saw some of his shots 
later. I think he should have checked his LCD more often.  ;)



take care,
Glen


At 01:07 PM 12/15/2005, P. J. Alling wrote:


http://www.sportsshooter.com/special_feature/chimping/index.html

Glen wrote:


At 10:01 AM 12/15/2005, Christian wrote:


It also prevents chimping!  :-)



I always thought that was an odd term. Can someone please explain exactly 
what it means?


Apparently, it means something more than simply looking at the LCD 
screen, because an LCD hood wouldn't prevent looking at the display.


I'm also aware that the term has a negative connotation, but I'm not 
exactly sure why. (It would help if I knew what it meant.) ;)



thanks,
Glen




Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???

2005-12-15 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:44:28PM -0500, Glen wrote:
 Thanks, that helped.  ;)
 
 I don't consider what I do to be chimping, as defined by that very fun 
 little video clip. . .

Opinions differ, obviously.  I found that video clip (I hesitate to
apply the description 'little' to something over 150MB in size)
to be not particularly amusing; perhaps at 1/10 the runing time
it might have made me smile a bit, but I certainly don't feel it
said anything new after the first 20 seconds.