Re: Monitor advice wanted
On 14/07/2010, John Francis wrote: > Most of the LCD panels, though, seem to use fluorescent tubes as the > illumination source. Presumably they will still be running at 60Hz? > If so, I can see there being a possible problem with flicker if (like > me) you are particularly sensitive to the problem. They generally use cold cathode tubes which are mains independent and are often excited at frequencies in the order of 30-80kHz and up to 200kHz for some designs. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Monitor advice wanted
On 2010-07-13 14:50 , John Francis wrote: Most of the LCD panels, though, seem to use fluorescent tubes as the illumination source. Presumably they will still be running at 60Hz? fluorescent backlights for LCD displays run at a very high cycle rate to avoid flicker The LED screens (illuminated by white LEDs, not fluorescent tubes) are stll leading-edge, and pretty expensive when you can find them. They're not available in anywhere as many sizes/resolutions, either. assuming you mean LCD displays with LED backlights; some don't pulse the LEDs but others do pulse them to dim specific parts of the backlight and increase dynamic range of the display; however, as with fluorescent tubes, the pulsing is usually fast enough to avoid flicker LED backlit displays are now fairly common -- i've seen 22" versions available in the mid-$200s and all of Apple's displays except the 30" are now LED-backlit; it's worth considering them for a few reasons: first, the color and brightness is more stable both long- and short-term; second, LED backlights typically need less power; and third, unlike fluorescent tubes, LEDs do not contain mercury -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 02:01:57PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: > > The issue with LCD's and refresh rate is in how quickly the screen > will be updated. At a 60Hz refresh rate pixels will only be updated > every 60th of a second as teh computer is only sending the screen > updates 60 times a second, higher refresh rates allow quicker screen > updates which is an issue for gamers running at high fps rates. > There's essentially no reason to ever run an LCD at anything other > than 60Hz if you aren't running an application that requires high fps > rates. Most of the LCD panels, though, seem to use fluorescent tubes as the illumination source. Presumably they will still be running at 60Hz? If so, I can see there being a possible problem with flicker if (like me) you are particularly sensitive to the problem. The LED screens (illuminated by white LEDs, not fluorescent tubes) are stll leading-edge, and pretty expensive when you can find them. They're not available in anywhere as many sizes/resolutions, either. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I got Dell U2410 monitor 4 weeks ago. Didn't have enough time to play with it - reinstalling new workstation also... So far i like it. It is one of best monitors you can get for reasonable money. I spent lot of time reading reviews, etc... before decided to get this. Viewing angle is not that good, but acceptable. At least no color shifts. And it looks great in Portrait mode! My favorite :) IPS says 178 degree viewing angle. Yes, that is correct. It just looses 50% of brightness beyound 60 degree angle. But no color shifts! However, it is not ideal :) I like my SONY 17-inch CRT, and it is used also. Gasha David Mann wrote: On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Peter Loveday wrote: If you're looking at Dells, I'm pretty happy with my Dell 24" U2408, but recently ordered a 27" U2711 as Dell had a special which worked out to about A$630, which I couldn't pass up. I just looked at the Dell site. The models I'm looking at are the U2410 (NZ$1,099) and U2711 (NZ$1,799). If I could get a price like that I wouldn't hesitate. The U2711 is also one of few monitors, along with the likes of the expensive HP DreamColour series, that supports 30-bit colour. This requires a quadro level graphics card, though, so you'd be looking at a serious investment. Probably not a bonus for me then as I'll be using it with my Macbook Pro. I have a friend who owns a DreamColor display but I haven't had the pleasure of seeing it. Note the U2711 won't swivel with its supplied stand. The U2410 will. The only thing that really attracts me to the 27" is the higher pixel count. I'm intending to use it in fullscreen mode with the laptop display being used for toolboxes. I get frustrated editing portrait-orientation photos on my wide laptop screen so being able to pivot the monitor around would be a bonus. I could just buy a third-party stand for the 27". Thanks a lot for your input. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 07:40:13PM +0100, mike wilson wrote: > John Francis wrote: > >> One thing that somewhat concerns me with the Dell 24" (and 27") >> monitors is that they only seem to support a 60Hz refresh rate >> at full resolution (or so the specs online suggest). >> >> I would have thought that might be a problem; I thought that >> European guidelines for monitors suggest 85Hz or higher for a >> workplace environment. Personally I've had problems with 60Hz >> systems (and with fluorescent light fixtures) causing headaches. > > The fastest refresh rate I have ever seen on an LCD monitor was 75Hz. I > don't think the problem exists in the way it does with CRT ones. Viewsonic, at least, offer refresh rates up to at least 85Hz; their cheaper range shows 85Hz available in the 26" 1920x1200 VA2626wm. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-07-12 14:40, mike wilson wrote: The fastest refresh rate I have ever seen on an LCD monitor was 75Hz. I don't think the problem exists in the way it does with CRT ones. It doesn't due to the difference in the way that the LCD and CRT screens get "painted". -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Francis wrote: One thing that somewhat concerns me with the Dell 24" (and 27") monitors is that they only seem to support a 60Hz refresh rate at full resolution (or so the specs online suggest). I would have thought that might be a problem; I thought that European guidelines for monitors suggest 85Hz or higher for a workplace environment. Personally I've had problems with 60Hz systems (and with fluorescent light fixtures) causing headaches. The fastest refresh rate I have ever seen on an LCD monitor was 75Hz. I don't think the problem exists in the way it does with CRT ones. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM, John Francis wrote: > > One thing that somewhat concerns me with the Dell 24" (and 27") > monitors is that they only seem to support a 60Hz refresh rate > at full resolution (or so the specs online suggest). > > I would have thought that might be a problem; I thought that > European guidelines for monitors suggest 85Hz or higher for a > workplace environment. Personally I've had problems with 60Hz > systems (and with fluorescent light fixtures) causing headaches. > Refresh rate is only an issue with CRT's as LCD's don't refresh the screen per se, they just update the pixel when it should change and it's constant otherwise. CRT's only briefly illuminate the pixels and do so at the refresh rate (IE at 60Hz each pixel is illuminated 60 times a second). The issue with LCD's and refresh rate is in how quickly the screen will be updated. At a 60Hz refresh rate pixels will only be updated every 60th of a second as teh computer is only sending the screen updates 60 times a second, higher refresh rates allow quicker screen updates which is an issue for gamers running at high fps rates. There's essentially no reason to ever run an LCD at anything other than 60Hz if you aren't running an application that requires high fps rates. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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One thing that somewhat concerns me with the Dell 24" (and 27") monitors is that they only seem to support a 60Hz refresh rate at full resolution (or so the specs online suggest). I would have thought that might be a problem; I thought that European guidelines for monitors suggest 85Hz or higher for a workplace environment. Personally I've had problems with 60Hz systems (and with fluorescent light fixtures) causing headaches. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Monitor advice wanted
you got me on this one. Maybe I need more coffee.
Steve at the Coffee shop.
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Does anyone else see the Irony in the naming scheme?
On 7/11/2010 2:02 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote:
> Nec LCD3090WQXi is great but cost a lot.
> LCD2690WUXi and Multisync P221W are smaller but also good.
>
> --Sasha
>
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:12 PM, David Mann wrote:
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>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 12:35 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 2010-07-10 2:02, David Mann wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> BTW when you pivot the screen does the system automatically reconfigure
>>>> itself?
>>>>
>>> I've never encountered one that would do that, but I've been told that
>>> they're out there. I actually would be a little surprised at that, though,
>>> since I don't think the DVI interface has much in the way of signals going
>>> from the monitor to the computer. It might be possible through DDC or
>>> something, though, so I'm not sure.
>>>
>> No worries, I'll just keep the system preferences open. I can quite easily
>> rotate the display via an option in there. I just hope my tablet will be
>> able to cope with the sudden change of desktop dimensions.
>>
>> Dave
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Re: Monitor advice wanted
Does anyone else see the Irony in the naming scheme?
On 7/11/2010 2:02 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote:
Nec LCD3090WQXi is great but cost a lot.
LCD2690WUXi and Multisync P221W are smaller but also good.
--Sasha
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:12 PM, David Mann wrote:
On Jul 11, 2010, at 12:35 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:
On 2010-07-10 2:02, David Mann wrote:
BTW when you pivot the screen does the system automatically reconfigure itself?
I've never encountered one that would do that, but I've been told that they're
out there. I actually would be a little surprised at that, though, since I
don't think the DVI interface has much in the way of signals going from the
monitor to the computer. It might be possible through DDC or something,
though, so I'm not sure.
No worries, I'll just keep the system preferences open. I can quite easily
rotate the display via an option in there. I just hope my tablet will be able
to cope with the sudden change of desktop dimensions.
Dave
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On Jul 11, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote: > Nec LCD3090WQXi is great but cost a lot. > LCD2690WUXi and Multisync P221W are smaller but also good. Thanks, Sasha. I've been looking at the NEC LCD2490 but it's really hard to find where to buy one in this country. If only I could just order from B&H. But too much hassle with freight and support. Also keeping an eye on Eizo but I think my wallet would be on life-support after something like that. But I've enquired from a local shop to see if I'd have a chance of affording a 22" one. The more I read about these things the more frustrated I get :) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nec LCD3090WQXi is great but cost a lot. LCD2690WUXi and Multisync P221W are smaller but also good. --Sasha On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:12 PM, David Mann wrote: > On Jul 11, 2010, at 12:35 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: > >> On 2010-07-10 2:02, David Mann wrote: >> >>> BTW when you pivot the screen does the system automatically reconfigure >>> itself? >> >> I've never encountered one that would do that, but I've been told that >> they're out there. I actually would be a little surprised at that, though, >> since I don't think the DVI interface has much in the way of signals going >> from the monitor to the computer. It might be possible through DDC or >> something, though, so I'm not sure. > > No worries, I'll just keep the system preferences open. I can quite easily > rotate the display via an option in there. I just hope my tablet will be > able to cope with the sudden change of desktop dimensions. > > Dave > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 11, 2010, at 12:35 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: > On 2010-07-10 2:02, David Mann wrote: > >> BTW when you pivot the screen does the system automatically reconfigure >> itself? > > I've never encountered one that would do that, but I've been told that > they're out there. I actually would be a little surprised at that, though, > since I don't think the DVI interface has much in the way of signals going > from the monitor to the computer. It might be possible through DDC or > something, though, so I'm not sure. No worries, I'll just keep the system preferences open. I can quite easily rotate the display via an option in there. I just hope my tablet will be able to cope with the sudden change of desktop dimensions. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 10, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-07-10 9:54, John Sessoms wrote: Found it! - Radius Pivot Monitor I had one one a Mac II csx about 20 years ago. If I remember correctly, the desktop pivoted when you turned the monitor, so your view was still upright. Paul Sweet. I wish more were like that. I'd be able to make do with two monitors instead of having to think about four ... I really need two portrait sometimes and two landscape sometimes. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-07-10 9:54, John Sessoms wrote: Found it! - Radius Pivot Monitor Sweet. I wish more were like that. I'd be able to make do with two monitors instead of having to think about four ... I really need two portrait sometimes and two landscape sometimes. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Doug Franklin On 2010-07-10 2:02, David Mann wrote: > BTW when you pivot the screen does the system automatically reconfigure itself? I've never encountered one that would do that, but I've been told that they're out there. I actually would be a little surprised at that, though, since I don't think the DVI interface has much in the way of signals going from the monitor to the computer. It might be possible through DDC or something, though, so I'm not sure. I remember one from years ago - paper white monochrome VGA CRT. It could be rotated from landscape to portrait orientation and would detect which one it was in. IIRC, they showed Aldus PageMaker DTP software in the advertising, and how easy it made page layouts. I think it was available for early monochrome Macs. Found it! - Radius Pivot Monitor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh5175Q4Vgo -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-07-10 2:02, David Mann wrote: BTW when you pivot the screen does the system automatically reconfigure itself? I've never encountered one that would do that, but I've been told that they're out there. I actually would be a little surprised at that, though, since I don't think the DVI interface has much in the way of signals going from the monitor to the computer. It might be possible through DDC or something, though, so I'm not sure. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 9, 2010, at 6:19 PM, steve harley wrote: > On 2010-07-08 23:28 , David Mann wrote: >> The only thing that really attracts me to the 27" is the higher pixel count. > > one thing to watch out for is that the screen is not so wide you can't take > it all in at once Yes I was thinking that this morning. A contractor at work has a 24" Dell monitor (but a cheaper model than the one I'm looking at) and that's certainly big enough. So I'm not likely to NEED a 27". After reading a couple of reviews I'm starting to lean towards the HP one but I'll do some more reading when I get a chance. I'd have thought everyone would be using LED backlights by now. BTW when you pivot the screen does the system automatically reconfigure itself? I'm also hoping the changing dimensions won't wreak havoc with my Wacom tablet. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David Mann wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm planning to upgrade to a reasonably good LCD monitor in the near > future. Are there any models that offer high quality at good value? > > Sadly I don't have the budget for an Eizo but I have been eyeing up the > IPS Dell ones. Apple are out as they don't have DVI. Apart from that > I'm pretty much open. I'm shopping in the 24 to 27" range. > > I'd like one that I could rotate to portrait orientation but that's not > a deal-breaker (in fact it could be more of a pain than it's worth). > > In addition, what's going on with calibrators these days? I plan to > replace my old Spyder and I haven't been following developments in this > area at all. > > Cheers, > Dave I've just replaced a dead monitor with an NEC Multisync P221w. I find it excellent and have calibrated it quite happily with my Spyder 3. It can rotate to portrait format. It's 22" and cost me GBP 350ish. They don't do a directly comparable 24" version. There's a PA421 which seems to have the same specs but it's quite a bit more expensive at around GBP 800. I find the 22" plenty big enough for my needs. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The models I'm looking at are the U2410 (NZ$1,099) and U2711 (NZ$1,799). Ouch, the current RRPs on these here are now $A699 and $A999. I'd wait for Dell to have a special, unless you're in a hurry. Also do a search for the almost permanently available coupons, like 15% off monitors, etc. You can also use a referral cashback site, like http://www.moneybackco.com.au (in OZ anyways, there must be some equiv). Here the U2711 recently dropped for $1199 to $999, then they had $200 off special to $799, then 15% coupon and 7% moneybackco, droped it to around $630 for me. I now wish I'd bought two :) I'd be suprised if you don't see some similar price drop there. You can always call them and see what they can do for you, I've heard a few people get good discounts that way. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-07-08 23:28 , David Mann wrote: The only thing that really attracts me to the 27" is the higher pixel count. one thing to watch out for is that the screen is not so wide you can't take it all in at once I'm intending to use it in fullscreen mode with the laptop display being used for toolboxes. I get frustrated editing portrait-orientation photos on my wide laptop screen so being able to pivot the monitor around would be a bonus. I could just buy a third-party stand for the 27". third party stands are a lot less money than the display itself, and can add considerably to the value; i have used Ergotron LX stands; they adjust quite nicely, including pivoting; my only disappointment was that the obvious modular addition -- another arm to add to the 15" pole (plenty of room) that came with my first arm -- is not something Ergotron deigns to sell separately i have also used an Ergotron system that supported both my laptop and display, to align the displays; i used a USB keyboard and a wireless mouse in this configuration -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: > On 2010-07-08 4:57, David Mann wrote: > >> I'm planning to upgrade to a reasonably good LCD monitor in the near future. >> Are there any models that offer high quality at good value? > > I /love/ my HP 2475w IPS monitor, but they're still a bit expensive at over > US$ 500 or so. Thanks for that, it's actually quite a bit cheaper than the Dells I'm looking at (LP2475w = NZ$860) so is worth a look. I'll do a bit of reading. > I recently hooked up a PC to my LCD TV and was frankly shocked at the > pleasant rendition and color depth of the display. And the /blacks/! On the > TV they're amazingly deep, even better than the 2475w. And the TV is a > fairly cheap one. But it made me think ... the 2475w is a 24" monitor that > goes for over US$ 500, but I could get a 27 or 28" 1080p LCD TV for maybe US$ > 350 on sale. So I'm seriously thinking about doing that to see if the color > rendition is there. If it is, I'll just buy TVs for "high gamut" monitors > for photo work. :-) Interesting idea, I wonder if I could use that excuse to get a 60" plasma :) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Peter Loveday wrote: > If you're looking at Dells, I'm pretty happy with my Dell 24" U2408, but > recently ordered a 27" U2711 as Dell had a special which worked out to about > A$630, which I couldn't pass up. I just looked at the Dell site. The models I'm looking at are the U2410 (NZ$1,099) and U2711 (NZ$1,799). If I could get a price like that I wouldn't hesitate. > The U2711 is also one of few monitors, along with the likes of the expensive > HP DreamColour series, that supports 30-bit colour. This requires a quadro > level graphics card, though, so you'd be looking at a serious investment. Probably not a bonus for me then as I'll be using it with my Macbook Pro. I have a friend who owns a DreamColor display but I haven't had the pleasure of seeing it. > Note the U2711 won't swivel with its supplied stand. The U2410 will. The only thing that really attracts me to the 27" is the higher pixel count. I'm intending to use it in fullscreen mode with the laptop display being used for toolboxes. I get frustrated editing portrait-orientation photos on my wide laptop screen so being able to pivot the monitor around would be a bonus. I could just buy a third-party stand for the 27". Thanks a lot for your input. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If you're looking at Dells, I'm pretty happy with my Dell 24" U2408, but recently ordered a 27" U2711 as Dell had a special which worked out to about A$630, which I couldn't pass up. These monitors have a wide-colour gamut, which allows more flexibility in calibration. The U2711 is also one of few monitors, along with the likes of the expensive HP DreamColour series, that supports 30-bit colour. This requires a quadro level graphics card, though, so you'd be looking at a serious investment. Anyway, I can't comment on the U2711 quite yet, but certainly the specs look right, and high res (2560x1440) - I probably would've rather 16:10 than 16:9, but that's getting rarer now. The U2410 is probably another good option, also wide gamut, 1920x1200. Note the U2711 won't swivel with its supplied stand. The U2410 will. - Peter -Original Message- From: David Mann Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:27 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Monitor advice wanted Hi all, I'm planning to upgrade to a reasonably good LCD monitor in the near future. Are there any models that offer high quality at good value? Sadly I don't have the budget for an Eizo but I have been eyeing up the IPS Dell ones. Apple are out as they don't have DVI. Apart from that I'm pretty much open. I'm shopping in the 24 to 27" range. I'd like one that I could rotate to portrait orientation but that's not a deal-breaker (in fact it could be more of a pain than it's worth). In addition, what's going on with calibrators these days? I plan to replace my old Spyder and I haven't been following developments in this area at all. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Monitor advice wanted
On 2010-07-08 4:57, David Mann wrote: I'm planning to upgrade to a reasonably good LCD monitor in the near future. Are there any models that offer high quality at good value? I /love/ my HP 2475w IPS monitor, but they're still a bit expensive at over US$ 500 or so. I recently hooked up a PC to my LCD TV and was frankly shocked at the pleasant rendition and color depth of the display. And the /blacks/! On the TV they're amazingly deep, even better than the 2475w. And the TV is a fairly cheap one. But it made me think ... the 2475w is a 24" monitor that goes for over US$ 500, but I could get a 27 or 28" 1080p LCD TV for maybe US$ 350 on sale. So I'm seriously thinking about doing that to see if the color rendition is there. If it is, I'll just buy TVs for "high gamut" monitors for photo work. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
