Re: OT: I am not a number, I am a free man!
On Jan 15, 2009, at 20:59, John Sessoms wrote: It's the same shivery, "it almost could be true" that sells Stephen King books and made the X-files such a culture phenomena. Anyway, it was entertaining and fun. And they had a better effects budget (or used the budget they had to better effect) than Star Trek. Everything except for the security system which looked like a big bubble-gum bubble... (yikes). Even as a huge fan of the show, those scenes with the bubble always make me cringe for just how non-scary, non-threatening, and just plain silly that thing looks -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: I am not a number, I am a free man!
> In the contemporary real world, who was the mole? After the > "Third Man", > was there a fourth man? A fifth? A sixth? Will we ever know? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/1999/09/99/britain_betrayed/444058 .stm > > From: "Bob W" > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm > >>> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: I am not a number, I am a free man!
From: "Bob W" http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm > > > > > > That's sad. I watched episode after episode of "The > Prisoner" and some > > reruns, but I must declare I was frequently unable to > understand just > > what was going on. Other than the simple "He wanted out of there." > > > > Joseph McAllister > > pentax...@mac.com > > James Bond meets the Twilight Zone. > > The underlying premise is a "secret agent" decides to quit > his job, and > he's kidnapped and taken to the village to brainwash him into > telling why. > > That premise provides a framework from which to hang various SciFi & > adventure stories. Well, maybe on the surface layer... Didn't bother me when I first watched them as a teenager that most of them didn't always make a lot of sense. Later, I kind of figured out they were like James J. Angleton's "wilderness of mirrors", and never would make sense. You were always supposed to be left wondering if you'd really solved it or was there another meaning you might have missed. In the contemporary real world, who was the mole? After the "Third Man", was there a fourth man? A fifth? A sixth? Will we ever know? From that angle they all make sense, once you realize you don't know the whole story, and probably never will. In the end, even after they've escaped the village no one is ever really free. They and we are always left looking over our shoulder to see if someone is lurking up behind us. It's the same shivery, "it almost could be true" that sells Stephen King books and made the X-files such a culture phenomena. Anyway, it was entertaining and fun. And they had a better effects budget (or used the budget they had to better effect) than Star Trek. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> >> > > >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm > > > > > > That's sad. I watched episode after episode of "The > Prisoner" and some > > reruns, but I must declare I was frequently unable to > understand just > > what was going on. Other than the simple "He wanted out of there." > > > > Joseph McAllister > > pentax...@mac.com > > James Bond meets the Twilight Zone. > > The underlying premise is a "secret agent" decides to quit > his job, and > he's kidnapped and taken to the village to brainwash him into > telling why. > > That premise provides a framework from which to hang various SciFi & > adventure stories. Well, maybe on the surface layer... Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I am not a number, I am a free man!
From: Joseph McAllister On Jan 14, 2009, at 16:18 , Bob W wrote: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm That's sad. I watched episode after episode of "The Prisoner" and some reruns, but I must declare I was frequently unable to understand just what was going on. Other than the simple "He wanted out of there." Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com James Bond meets the Twilight Zone. The underlying premise is a "secret agent" decides to quit his job, and he's kidnapped and taken to the village to brainwash him into telling why. That premise provides a framework from which to hang various SciFi & adventure stories. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I am not a number, I am a free man!
On Jan 15, 2009, at 5:28 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Malcolm Smith wrote: I must have seen it on its second or third repeat. This has been a very annoying series to see; I'm sure there are many episodes I've seen many times and some I've never seen. I think that with the DVD set (I once almost bought but was out of stock) that there is an episode that didn't get transmitted? I never saw the very last one and have no idea how it concluded, if it actually did! Even people who *did* see the last episode aren't sure if it actually concluded! :) There is no conclusion to the chains of society. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Malcolm Smith wrote: I must have seen it on its second or third repeat. This has been a very annoying series to see; I'm sure there are many episodes I've seen many times and some I've never seen. I think that with the DVD set (I once almost bought but was out of stock) that there is an episode that didn't get transmitted? I never saw the very last one and have no idea how it concluded, if it actually did! Even people who *did* see the last episode aren't sure if it actually concluded! :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> Peter Alling wrote: > The Prisoner escaped, well sort of... Ah! Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: I am not a number, I am a free man!
The Prisoner escaped, well sort of... -Original Message- >From: Malcolm Smith >Sent: Jan 15, 2009 2:32 AM >To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >Subject: RE: OT: I am not a number, I am a free man! > >> Bob W wrote: > >> I used to watch it on a Friday evening when we lived in Gibraltar. My >> older >> sibs were away at school, my parents went out for the evening and left >> me to >> babysit my younger brother, so I must have been 10 and it must have >> been >> 1967-8, and I was an avid fan of The Prisoner. I didn't have a clue >> what was >> going on, but I loved the surrealism and weirdness and imagination of >> it >> all. It was many, many years before I met anyone else who'd even heard >> of >> it, let alone seen it. > >I must have seen it on its second or third repeat. This has been a very >annoying series to see; I'm sure there are many episodes I've seen many >times and some I've never seen. I think that with the DVD set (I once almost >bought but was out of stock) that there is an episode that didn't get >transmitted? I never saw the very last one and have no idea how it >concluded, if it actually did! > >Malcolm > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob W wrote: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm The modern version of car he drives in the opening sequence (visually, almost identical to the 1966 model) was named Top Gear's 2008 car of the year. The Prisoner is a fascinating series but I found McGoohan somewhat of a one trick pony in other parts. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> Bob W wrote: > I used to watch it on a Friday evening when we lived in Gibraltar. My > older > sibs were away at school, my parents went out for the evening and left > me to > babysit my younger brother, so I must have been 10 and it must have > been > 1967-8, and I was an avid fan of The Prisoner. I didn't have a clue > what was > going on, but I loved the surrealism and weirdness and imagination of > it > all. It was many, many years before I met anyone else who'd even heard > of > it, let alone seen it. I must have seen it on its second or third repeat. This has been a very annoying series to see; I'm sure there are many episodes I've seen many times and some I've never seen. I think that with the DVD set (I once almost bought but was out of stock) that there is an episode that didn't get transmitted? I never saw the very last one and have no idea how it concluded, if it actually did! Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 1/14/2009 4:19:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@web-options.com writes: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm === I think I saw most of the episodes, forget how old I was, but probably when they were first shown on TV in the US. I never knew what was going on (well, except it seemed to be a debriefing and retirement center for former spies.) It always seemed to be going somewhere but never did. Frankly, I ended up frustrated with it. Although it was creative, it was annoying. I prefer my sci-fi less vague. McGoohan was very good though, otherwise I probably wouldn't have bothered with it. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The Prisoner must have been on about the middle of my graduate-school
days. Many things going on in my life at the time, but I expect that
I saw 80% of the episodes. In the early 80's a friend and I (she who
is now my wife) did a 3-week bicycle-and-train visit to England and
Wales. Welsh friends strongly encouraged us to pass through
Portmeirion; we did, and I kept thinking "I have seen this before."
But never made the connection to the show.
I'll have to go look for the DVD set you mention Godfrey,
stan
On Jan 14, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jan 14, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Bob W wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm
That's sad. I watched episode after episode of "The Prisoner"
and some
reruns, but I must declare I was frequently unable to
understand just
what was going on. Other than the simple "He wanted out of there."
I used to watch it on a Friday evening when we lived in Gibraltar.
My older
sibs were away at school, my parents went out for the evening and
left me to
babysit my younger brother, so I must have been 10 and it must
have been
1967-8, and I was an avid fan of The Prisoner. I didn't have a
clue what was
going on, but I loved the surrealism and weirdness and imagination
of it
all. It was many, many years before I met anyone else who'd even
heard of
it, let alone seen it.
Godspeed, Patrick McGoohan!
"The Prisoner" series ran as a summer special through the summer of
1968 on public broadcasting in New York, IIRC. The year I started
high school... I watched every episode. My best friend at the time
was so enamored of the series that he managed to convince his
parents to spend their summer holiday at Port Meriam in Wales the
following summer. It was a fascinating series, an amazing follow-on
to McGoohan's role in "Danger Man" ("Secret Agent Man" to us
colonials).
I have both series, in their entirety, on DVD. I'll have to pull
out The Prisoner and watch it again. The DVD set has some very
interesting production notes.
Godfrey
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Re: OT: I am not a number, I am a free man!
On Jan 14, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Bob W wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm
That's sad. I watched episode after episode of "The Prisoner"
and some
reruns, but I must declare I was frequently unable to
understand just
what was going on. Other than the simple "He wanted out of there."
I used to watch it on a Friday evening when we lived in Gibraltar.
My older
sibs were away at school, my parents went out for the evening and
left me to
babysit my younger brother, so I must have been 10 and it must have
been
1967-8, and I was an avid fan of The Prisoner. I didn't have a clue
what was
going on, but I loved the surrealism and weirdness and imagination
of it
all. It was many, many years before I met anyone else who'd even
heard of
it, let alone seen it.
Godspeed, Patrick McGoohan!
"The Prisoner" series ran as a summer special through the summer of
1968 on public broadcasting in New York, IIRC. The year I started high
school... I watched every episode. My best friend at the time was so
enamored of the series that he managed to convince his parents to
spend their summer holiday at Port Meriam in Wales the following
summer. It was a fascinating series, an amazing follow-on to
McGoohan's role in "Danger Man" ("Secret Agent Man" to us colonials).
I have both series, in their entirety, on DVD. I'll have to pull out
The Prisoner and watch it again. The DVD set has some very interesting
production notes.
Godfrey
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RE: OT: I am not a number, I am a free man!
> > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm > > > That's sad. I watched episode after episode of "The Prisoner" > and some > reruns, but I must declare I was frequently unable to > understand just > what was going on. Other than the simple "He wanted out of there." > > Joseph McAllister I used to watch it on a Friday evening when we lived in Gibraltar. My older sibs were away at school, my parents went out for the evening and left me to babysit my younger brother, so I must have been 10 and it must have been 1967-8, and I was an avid fan of The Prisoner. I didn't have a clue what was going on, but I loved the surrealism and weirdness and imagination of it all. It was many, many years before I met anyone else who'd even heard of it, let alone seen it. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 14, 2009, at 16:18 , Bob W wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm That's sad. I watched episode after episode of "The Prisoner" and some reruns, but I must declare I was frequently unable to understand just what was going on. Other than the simple "He wanted out of there." Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
