Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Marnie, each major upgrade (2.x to 3.x, and 3.x to 4.x) seems to have 
introduced new rendering engine while preserving the older ones. I 
should say that the LR 4.4 that I'm using now is giving me great deal 
more in terms of image manipulations that I could perform on my photographs.


So not taking into account monetary concerns, I would suggest that you 
upgrade. May be taking 5.x for trial (given its free beta status) could 
be a good trigger for you.


Boris


On 4/17/2013 12:24 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

I'm still on 2.X something. Maybe it's time to  upgrade.

M aka D :-)

In a message dated 4/15/2013 2:51:48 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
m...@pobox.com writes:
The most detailed change list  I've seen so far is from Victoria
Bampton (The Lightroom  Queen):

http://www.lightroomqueen.com/2013/04/15/whats-new-in-lightroom-5-0-beta/





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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Damn. Note for Mac users that Mac OS X 10.7.0 or later is required.
 That rules out folks like me who are still on 10.6.8 for various
 reasons. Grumble. (Getting harder and harder to avoid an annoying
 upgrade, and I used to look forward to new Mac OS X upgrades.)

Thanks for that info. I'm in the same boat.

D

 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 The public beta of Lightroom 5 is available for download:

 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom5/

 New Features in Lightroom 5 Beta

 Advanced Healing Brush – Easily remove objects and fix defects—even
 those with irregular shapes such as threads or lint—with a single
 brush stroke. Take precise control over what's being removed as you
 make unwanted objects just disappear.

 Upright – Straighten tilted images with a single click. Upright
 analyzes images and detects skewed horizontal or vertical lines. You
 choose one of four correction methods, and Upright can even straighten
 images where the horizon is hidden.

 Radial Gradient – Lead your viewer's eye through your images with more
 flexibility and control. The radial gradient tool lets you create
 off-center vignette effects, or multiple vignette areas within a
 single image.

 Offline editing with Smart Previews – Easily work with images without
 bringing your entire library with you. Just generate smaller stand-in
 files called Smart Previews. Make adjustments or metadata additions to
 Smart Previews and your changes will be automatically applied to the
 full-size originals later.

 Video slideshow sharing – Easily share your work in elegant video
 slideshows. Combine still images, video clips, and music in creative
 HD videos that can be viewed on almost any computer or device.

 Improved photo book creation – Create beautiful photo books from your
 images. Lightroom includes a variety of easy-to-use book templates,
 and now you can edit them to create a customized look. Upload your
 book for printing with just a few clicks.

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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-18 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:42 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Damn. Note for Mac users that Mac OS X 10.7.0 or later is required.
 That rules out folks like me who are still on 10.6.8 for various
 reasons. Grumble. (Getting harder and harder to avoid an annoying
 upgrade, and I used to look forward to new Mac OS X upgrades.)

 Thanks for that info. I'm in the same boat.

 D

Well Dave, I bit the bullet and installed Mac OS X Mountain Lion
(10.8.3) yesterday. $19.99 in the App Store. Took all afternoon to
download, but so far -- touch wood -- the upgrade has gone okay.

I found a solution for sync'ing my Nokia cellphone (SyncMate - free)
and figured out how to undo most of the UI damage / new features. I'm
attempting to teach myself to scroll backwards but I may give up and
undo that change too.

Surprisingly it seems to be no worse a resource pig on my 2007 iMac
than 10.6.8 was, possibly even a little lighter and faster, so my
slowdown fears were unfounded. Of course my SSD graft-in of a couple
of months ago was in preparation for this and has helped a great deal.

I still have to find replacements for a couple of PowerPC apps that I
used to calculate mat dimensions when framing, but for now I can run
them on my even more ancient PowerBook.

In summary: for twenty bucks go ahead and install Mountain Lion. Cheap upgrade.

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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 02:32:09PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:42 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 I still have to find replacements for a couple of PowerPC apps that I
 used to calculate mat dimensions when framing, but for now I can run
 them on my even more ancient PowerBook.
 
 In summary: for twenty bucks go ahead and install Mountain Lion. Cheap 
 upgrade.

Isn't there some hard limit on what hardware Mountain Lion runs on?
I have an Intel Core Duo iMac, but I seem to remember that it is just a 
year too old to run 10.8.


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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-18 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 02:32:09PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:42 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 I still have to find replacements for a couple of PowerPC apps that I
 used to calculate mat dimensions when framing, but for now I can run
 them on my even more ancient PowerBook.

 In summary: for twenty bucks go ahead and install Mountain Lion. Cheap 
 upgrade.

 Isn't there some hard limit on what hardware Mountain Lion runs on?
 I have an Intel Core Duo iMac, but I seem to remember that it is just a
 year too old to run 10.8.

Sadly, you're right. You need a Core 2 Duo CPU at least for both Lion
(10.7) and Mountain Lion. So you are stuck at 10.6.8 and no new
Lightroom. Luckily you are gainfully employed and will eventually be
debt-free I'm sure, so start planning now for a Mac upgrade. :-)

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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've been running Mountain Lion for quite a while now on my Macbook and iMac. 
No complaints If there were inconveniences at first I've long ago forgotten 
them. 

Paul
On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:42 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Damn. Note for Mac users that Mac OS X 10.7.0 or later is required.
 That rules out folks like me who are still on 10.6.8 for various
 reasons. Grumble. (Getting harder and harder to avoid an annoying
 upgrade, and I used to look forward to new Mac OS X upgrades.)
 
 Thanks for that info. I'm in the same boat.
 
 D
 
 Well Dave, I bit the bullet and installed Mac OS X Mountain Lion
 (10.8.3) yesterday. $19.99 in the App Store. Took all afternoon to
 download, but so far -- touch wood -- the upgrade has gone okay.
 
 I found a solution for sync'ing my Nokia cellphone (SyncMate - free)
 and figured out how to undo most of the UI damage / new features. I'm
 attempting to teach myself to scroll backwards but I may give up and
 undo that change too.
 
 Surprisingly it seems to be no worse a resource pig on my 2007 iMac
 than 10.6.8 was, possibly even a little lighter and faster, so my
 slowdown fears were unfounded. Of course my SSD graft-in of a couple
 of months ago was in preparation for this and has helped a great deal.
 
 I still have to find replacements for a couple of PowerPC apps that I
 used to calculate mat dimensions when framing, but for now I can run
 them on my even more ancient PowerBook.
 
 In summary: for twenty bucks go ahead and install Mountain Lion. Cheap 
 upgrade.
 
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RE: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-18 Thread Gerrit Visser
What, the Mac world is not perfect? What a shock. :-)
Next time that you need to do a large download, come on over for a
cappuccino :-) Lots of bandwidth here.

You are correct though, an SSD upgrade buys you a lot of performance. LR4 on
my HP ProBook was a joy to use for editing the 10,000+ DNG photos on our
recent cruise. My new dilemna is whether to go back through and see if the
tilt correction in LR5 produces a better result for my photos or not. Maybe
I will only tweak those that go into the slide shows.

Gerrit


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Well Dave, I bit the bullet and installed Mac OS X Mountain Lion
(10.8.3) yesterday. $19.99 in the App Store. Took all afternoon to download,
but so far -- touch wood -- the upgrade has gone okay.

I found a solution for sync'ing my Nokia cellphone (SyncMate - free) and
figured out how to undo most of the UI damage / new features. I'm attempting
to teach myself to scroll backwards but I may give up and undo that change
too.

Surprisingly it seems to be no worse a resource pig on my 2007 iMac than
10.6.8 was, possibly even a little lighter and faster, so my slowdown fears
were unfounded. Of course my SSD graft-in of a couple of months ago was in
preparation for this and has helped a great deal.

I still have to find replacements for a couple of PowerPC apps that I used
to calculate mat dimensions when framing, but for now I can run them on my
even more ancient PowerBook.

In summary: for twenty bucks go ahead and install Mountain Lion. Cheap
upgrade.

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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-18 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 What, the Mac world is not perfect? What a shock. :-)

Perfection is relative. :-)


 Next time that you need to do a large download, come on over for a
 cappuccino :-) Lots of bandwidth here.

Well I'm hoping to! Did you get my email of Sunday?


 You are correct though, an SSD upgrade buys you a lot of performance. LR4 on
 my HP ProBook was a joy to use for editing the 10,000+ DNG photos on our
 recent cruise. My new dilemna is whether to go back through and see if the
 tilt correction in LR5 produces a better result for my photos or not. Maybe
 I will only tweak those that go into the slide shows.

 Gerrit


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 Well Dave, I bit the bullet and installed Mac OS X Mountain Lion
 (10.8.3) yesterday. $19.99 in the App Store. Took all afternoon to download,
 but so far -- touch wood -- the upgrade has gone okay.

 I found a solution for sync'ing my Nokia cellphone (SyncMate - free) and
 figured out how to undo most of the UI damage / new features. I'm attempting
 to teach myself to scroll backwards but I may give up and undo that change
 too.

 Surprisingly it seems to be no worse a resource pig on my 2007 iMac than
 10.6.8 was, possibly even a little lighter and faster, so my slowdown fears
 were unfounded. Of course my SSD graft-in of a couple of months ago was in
 preparation for this and has helped a great deal.

 I still have to find replacements for a couple of PowerPC apps that I used
 to calculate mat dimensions when framing, but for now I can run them on my
 even more ancient PowerBook.

 In summary: for twenty bucks go ahead and install Mountain Lion. Cheap
 upgrade.

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RE: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-18 Thread Gerrit Visser

Yes, I received the email but I have been preoccupied with moving 180GB of
photos to my server and then deleting them from my laptop. Always a scary
moment when you say Ok to delete.

Not sure of the solution to merging the directories yet. I have some
volunteer IT work to finish and then will get back to the photos. I have a
selection ready to inflict on the list as PESO's. I even have a GESO of Sea
photos selected, some at Force 9+.

Next week looks good for a coffee session.

Gerrit

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On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 What, the Mac world is not perfect? What a shock. :-)

Perfection is relative. :-)


 Next time that you need to do a large download, come on over for a 
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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-17 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 16, 2013, at 17:48 , Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:

 Wow, these updates look fun. Looking forward to the upgrade.  Cheers, 
 Christine 
 

I just played a bit with upright and it's startlingly good and fast at 
squaring-up shots of buildings.  Neato.

Original, untouched image in LR5:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/lr5/IMGP5318.jpg

After hitting the FULL button in the Upright section:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/lr5/IMGP5318-2.jpg

Still, obviously, needs exposure work and all that, and it might be a bit 
over-corrected but... it's nice to get that perspective shift so quickly and 
simply.

For comparision, here's how I left it when I tweaked some of the falling 
backwards lines out of the image when I originally posted it:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/vegas/content/IMGP5318_large.html

 -Charles

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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-17 Thread Zos Xavius
Charles, that is  fantastic!! I  am sold!

Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:

On Apr 16, 2013, at 17:48 , Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com
wrote:

 Wow, these updates look fun. Looking forward to the upgrade.  Cheers,
Christine 
 

I just played a bit with upright and it's startlingly good and fast
at squaring-up shots of buildings.  Neato.

Original, untouched image in LR5:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/lr5/IMGP5318.jpg

After hitting the FULL button in the Upright section:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/lr5/IMGP5318-2.jpg

Still, obviously, needs exposure work and all that, and it might be a
bit over-corrected but... it's nice to get that perspective shift so
quickly and simply.

For comparision, here's how I left it when I tweaked some of the
falling backwards lines out of the image when I originally posted it:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/vegas/content/IMGP5318_large.html

 -Charles

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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-17 Thread Bruce Walker
So I'm presently downloading Mac OS X Mountain Lion ... and reading
mail ... and getting coffee ... and refreshing the mail ...

While it's nice to be able to click Buy and get a copy of software, I
could have driven over to the Apple store to buy this stuff (on DVD or
a USB stick or whatever) about 6 times in the 4 hours that this
download is taking. Holy moly.

Snore!

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Damn. Note for Mac users that Mac OS X 10.7.0 or later is required.
 That rules out folks like me who are still on 10.6.8 for various
 reasons. Grumble. (Getting harder and harder to avoid an annoying
 upgrade, and I used to look forward to new Mac OS X upgrades.)

 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 The public beta of Lightroom 5 is available for download:

 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom5/

 New Features in Lightroom 5 Beta

 Advanced Healing Brush – Easily remove objects and fix defects—even
 those with irregular shapes such as threads or lint—with a single
 brush stroke. Take precise control over what's being removed as you
 make unwanted objects just disappear.

 Upright – Straighten tilted images with a single click. Upright
 analyzes images and detects skewed horizontal or vertical lines. You
 choose one of four correction methods, and Upright can even straighten
 images where the horizon is hidden.

 Radial Gradient – Lead your viewer's eye through your images with more
 flexibility and control. The radial gradient tool lets you create
 off-center vignette effects, or multiple vignette areas within a
 single image.

 Offline editing with Smart Previews – Easily work with images without
 bringing your entire library with you. Just generate smaller stand-in
 files called Smart Previews. Make adjustments or metadata additions to
 Smart Previews and your changes will be automatically applied to the
 full-size originals later.

 Video slideshow sharing – Easily share your work in elegant video
 slideshows. Combine still images, video clips, and music in creative
 HD videos that can be viewed on almost any computer or device.

 Improved photo book creation – Create beautiful photo books from your
 images. Lightroom includes a variety of easy-to-use book templates,
 and now you can edit them to create a customized look. Upload your
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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-17 Thread steve harley

on 2013-04-17 13:07 Bruce Walker wrote

While it's nice to be able to click Buy and get a copy of software, I
could have driven over to the Apple store to buy this stuff (on DVD or
a USB stick or whatever) about 6 times in the 4 hours that this
download is taking. Holy moly.


be glad you are not on a 640kbps copper DSL line like mine, on which the 4.4GB 
10.8 installer would be about a 16 hour download


i have also read that you can use the wifi at an Apple Store to download the 
installer (presumably faster); i will probably do this when i upgrade from 10.7


given that you have slowish internet service, you might want to follow this tip 
about how to preserve the downloaded installer for reuse:


http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html

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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Steve. That's an improved article over the older one I had.
I'm certainly going to do that as I'll need to upgrade my wife's iMac
eventually.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2013-04-17 13:07 Bruce Walker wrote

 While it's nice to be able to click Buy and get a copy of software, I
 could have driven over to the Apple store to buy this stuff (on DVD or
 a USB stick or whatever) about 6 times in the 4 hours that this
 download is taking. Holy moly.


 be glad you are not on a 640kbps copper DSL line like mine, on which the
 4.4GB 10.8 installer would be about a 16 hour download

 i have also read that you can use the wifi at an Apple Store to download the
 installer (presumably faster); i will probably do this when i upgrade from
 10.7

 given that you have slowish internet service, you might want to follow this
 tip about how to preserve the downloaded installer for reuse:

 http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html


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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-17 Thread Christine Aguila
Very cool, Charles!  Cheers, Christine 



On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:

 On Apr 16, 2013, at 17:48 , Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 Wow, these updates look fun. Looking forward to the upgrade.  Cheers, 
 Christine
 
 I just played a bit with upright and it's startlingly good and fast at 
 squaring-up shots of buildings.  Neato.
 
 Original, untouched image in LR5:
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/lr5/IMGP5318.jpg
 
 After hitting the FULL button in the Upright section:
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/lr5/IMGP5318-2.jpg
 
 Still, obviously, needs exposure work and all that, and it might be a bit 
 over-corrected but... it's nice to get that perspective shift so quickly 
 and simply.
 
 For comparision, here's how I left it when I tweaked some of the falling 
 backwards lines out of the image when I originally posted it:
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/vegas/content/IMGP5318_large.html
 
 -Charles
 
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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-17 Thread steve harley

on 2013-04-17 9:36 Charles Robinson wrote

I just played a bit with upright and it's startlingly good and fast at 
squaring-up shots of buildings.  Neato.

Original, untouched image in LR5:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/lr5/IMGP5318.jpg

After hitting the FULL button in the Upright section:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/lr5/IMGP5318-2.jpg


that is a freaking weird illustration of the concept of rectitude




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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
I'm getting an error page when I try to download this by the supplied
link. Is this what you guys are seeing too?

https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_lightroom5

We're sorry, we encountered an error processing your request.

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 The public beta of Lightroom 5 is available for download:

 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom5/

 New Features in Lightroom 5 Beta

 Advanced Healing Brush – Easily remove objects and fix defects—even
 those with irregular shapes such as threads or lint—with a single
 brush stroke. Take precise control over what's being removed as you
 make unwanted objects just disappear.

 Upright – Straighten tilted images with a single click. Upright
 analyzes images and detects skewed horizontal or vertical lines. You
 choose one of four correction methods, and Upright can even straighten
 images where the horizon is hidden.

 Radial Gradient – Lead your viewer's eye through your images with more
 flexibility and control. The radial gradient tool lets you create
 off-center vignette effects, or multiple vignette areas within a
 single image.

 Offline editing with Smart Previews – Easily work with images without
 bringing your entire library with you. Just generate smaller stand-in
 files called Smart Previews. Make adjustments or metadata additions to
 Smart Previews and your changes will be automatically applied to the
 full-size originals later.

 Video slideshow sharing – Easily share your work in elegant video
 slideshows. Combine still images, video clips, and music in creative
 HD videos that can be viewed on almost any computer or device.

 Improved photo book creation – Create beautiful photo books from your
 images. Lightroom includes a variety of easy-to-use book templates,
 and now you can edit them to create a customized look. Upload your
 book for printing with just a few clicks.

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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 16, 2013, at 15:05 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm getting an error page when I try to download this by the supplied
 link. Is this what you guys are seeing too?
 
 https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_lightroom5
 
 We're sorry, we encountered an error processing your request.
 

Sorry, the download is working for me.

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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Apr 16, 2013, at 15:05 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm getting an error page when I try to download this by the supplied
 link. Is this what you guys are seeing too?

 https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_lightroom5

 We're sorry, we encountered an error processing your request.


 Sorry, the download is working for me.

It just started working for me too. Transient overload or site problem
fixed? Whatever! :-)

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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Apr 16, 2013, at 15:05 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm getting an error page when I try to download this by the supplied
 link. Is this what you guys are seeing too?

 https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_lightroom5

 We're sorry, we encountered an error processing your request.


 Sorry, the download is working for me.

 It just started working for me too. Transient overload or site problem
 fixed? Whatever! :-)

In case anyone else runs into this: I wasn't out of the woods until I
first successfully logged-in with my Adobe ID. The error messages were
misleading.

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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Eactivist
I'm still on 2.X something. Maybe it's time to  upgrade.

M aka D :-)

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m...@pobox.com writes:
The most detailed change list  I've seen so far is from Victoria
Bampton (The Lightroom  Queen):

http://www.lightroomqueen.com/2013/04/15/whats-new-in-lightroom-5-0-beta/   


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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread David J Brooks
Yes

Dave

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:24 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 I'm still on 2.X something. Maybe it's time to  upgrade.

 M aka D :-)

 In a message dated 4/15/2013 2:51:48 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 m...@pobox.com writes:
 The most detailed change list  I've seen so far is from Victoria
 Bampton (The Lightroom  Queen):

 http://www.lightroomqueen.com/2013/04/15/whats-new-in-lightroom-5-0-beta/


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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
+1

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:21 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes

 Dave

 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:24 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 I'm still on 2.X something. Maybe it's time to  upgrade.

 M aka D :-)

 In a message dated 4/15/2013 2:51:48 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 m...@pobox.com writes:
 The most detailed change list  I've seen so far is from Victoria
 Bampton (The Lightroom  Queen):

 http://www.lightroomqueen.com/2013/04/15/whats-new-in-lightroom-5-0-beta/


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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow, these updates look fun. Looking forward to the upgrade.  Cheers, Christine 



On Apr 15, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:

 The public beta of Lightroom 5 is available for download:
 
 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom5/
 
 New Features in Lightroom 5 Beta
 
 Advanced Healing Brush – Easily remove objects and fix defects—even
 those with irregular shapes such as threads or lint—with a single
 brush stroke. Take precise control over what's being removed as you
 make unwanted objects just disappear.
 
 Upright – Straighten tilted images with a single click. Upright
 analyzes images and detects skewed horizontal or vertical lines. You
 choose one of four correction methods, and Upright can even straighten
 images where the horizon is hidden.
 
 Radial Gradient – Lead your viewer's eye through your images with more
 flexibility and control. The radial gradient tool lets you create
 off-center vignette effects, or multiple vignette areas within a
 single image.
 
 Offline editing with Smart Previews – Easily work with images without
 bringing your entire library with you. Just generate smaller stand-in
 files called Smart Previews. Make adjustments or metadata additions to
 Smart Previews and your changes will be automatically applied to the
 full-size originals later.
 
 Video slideshow sharing – Easily share your work in elegant video
 slideshows. Combine still images, video clips, and music in creative
 HD videos that can be viewed on almost any computer or device.
 
 Improved photo book creation – Create beautiful photo books from your
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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
Damn. Note for Mac users that Mac OS X 10.7.0 or later is required.
That rules out folks like me who are still on 10.6.8 for various
reasons. Grumble. (Getting harder and harder to avoid an annoying
upgrade, and I used to look forward to new Mac OS X upgrades.)

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 The public beta of Lightroom 5 is available for download:

 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom5/

 New Features in Lightroom 5 Beta

 Advanced Healing Brush – Easily remove objects and fix defects—even
 those with irregular shapes such as threads or lint—with a single
 brush stroke. Take precise control over what's being removed as you
 make unwanted objects just disappear.

 Upright – Straighten tilted images with a single click. Upright
 analyzes images and detects skewed horizontal or vertical lines. You
 choose one of four correction methods, and Upright can even straighten
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 Radial Gradient – Lead your viewer's eye through your images with more
 flexibility and control. The radial gradient tool lets you create
 off-center vignette effects, or multiple vignette areas within a
 single image.

 Offline editing with Smart Previews – Easily work with images without
 bringing your entire library with you. Just generate smaller stand-in
 files called Smart Previews. Make adjustments or metadata additions to
 Smart Previews and your changes will be automatically applied to the
 full-size originals later.

 Video slideshow sharing – Easily share your work in elegant video
 slideshows. Combine still images, video clips, and music in creative
 HD videos that can be viewed on almost any computer or device.

 Improved photo book creation – Create beautiful photo books from your
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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 The public beta of Lightroom 5 is available for download:

 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom5/

 New Features in Lightroom 5 Beta

 Advanced Healing Brush – Easily remove objects and fix defects—even
 those with irregular shapes such as threads or lint—with a single
 brush stroke. Take precise control over what's being removed as you
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This is what i have been waiting for for a while.


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Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-15 Thread Matthew Hunt
The most detailed change list I've seen so far is from Victoria
Bampton (The Lightroom Queen):

http://www.lightroomqueen.com/2013/04/15/whats-new-in-lightroom-5-0-beta/

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