Re: Not quite FSF: FZ-35 (was Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images))
Can heartily recommend the X-S1. It's my travel camera - has been dragged around Europe for 5 weeks just recently, and has been through the south pacific prior to that. AF has an infrequent hiccup, but all else has been good. Ciao, Pete Mac in Melbourne On 29 June 2013 04:54, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 27, 2013, Walt wrote: On 6/27/2013 2:24 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras. It's a shame they went to an even noisier sensor. I haven't tried shooting the V-Lux at anything over ISO 100 so far. At what point does the noise start to really degrade the image? I really do like the lens a lot. If I found an exceptional deal on a gently used one of those Panasonic somewhere, I'd be sorely tempted to buy it as a lightweight carry-around for snapshots. De gustibus strikes again! My primary really dislikes zir FZ-35, partly because of the poor low-light performance, partly because some modes won't shoot RAW, but mostly because the interface is clumsy (which I agree with after trying some moon shots). It does take nice shots within its limitations. We're probably getting the Fuji X-S1 to replace it. If you (or anyone else, which is why I'm cc'ing the list) would be interested in the FZ-35, please e-mail me privately and I'll let you know when it's available. A proposed price would be welcome. (Wouldn't normally advertize it here, but other people brought it up...) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)
Thanks, Bruce. I'm fortunate enough to have some very photogenic great-nieces. -- Walt On 6/27/2013 7:07 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: That's an excellent image, Walt. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the new crop with a touch of softening -- just because I thought it looked a little better that way. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9155680616/ Thanks again for the heads-up! I think it really did improve the shot. -- Walt On 6/27/2013 3:57 PM, Darren Addy wrote: A nice image. I saw your first link on my Flickr page, since I have made you a contact. If I may...I was really struck by the Flickr crop of the image which, after comparing, I think is even more powerful than the full frame: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/waltcrop.png On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: If you get a Panny, the fz-35 was the best superzoom they made IMO. Probably the best superzoom ever. IQ at ISO 100-200 is not bad. Especially if you shoot RAW. The Panny JPEG engine is well known for turning photographs into watercolors. At 400 it starts to creep in pretty good, but you can still get images suitable for smaller prints. The lens on the fz-28/fz-35 is sharpest around f4 and is very usable wide open, which is f2.8 at the wide end. Diffraction starts kicking in at f5 anyways, so you have a fairly limited fstop range to work with to begin with. Much like the Q. The image stabilization on those cameras is really, really good too. How many sharp shots can you get with your pentax at 1/20s @ 500mm? I carried one of these cameras everywhere for a few years and they served me rather well. The video off the fz-35 was quite decent in good light too. Only 720p though. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: It's a shame they went to an even noisier sensor. I haven't tried shooting the V-Lux at anything over ISO 100 so far. At what point does the noise start to really degrade the image? I really do like the lens a lot. If I found an exceptional deal on a gently used one of those Panasonic somewhere, I'd be sorely tempted to buy it as a lightweight carry-around for snapshots. -- Walt On 6/27/2013 2:24 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to kick the tires on it a bit. I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness of a DSLR. But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/ http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)
Don't forget the astounding wallet busting price. On 6/27/2013 2:56 PM, Walt wrote: My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to kick the tires on it a bit. I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness of a DSLR. But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/ http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/ -- Walt -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Not quite FSF: FZ-35 (was Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images))
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013, Walt wrote: On 6/27/2013 2:24 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras. It's a shame they went to an even noisier sensor. I haven't tried shooting the V-Lux at anything over ISO 100 so far. At what point does the noise start to really degrade the image? I really do like the lens a lot. If I found an exceptional deal on a gently used one of those Panasonic somewhere, I'd be sorely tempted to buy it as a lightweight carry-around for snapshots. De gustibus strikes again! My primary really dislikes zir FZ-35, partly because of the poor low-light performance, partly because some modes won't shoot RAW, but mostly because the interface is clumsy (which I agree with after trying some moon shots). It does take nice shots within its limitations. We're probably getting the Fuji X-S1 to replace it. If you (or anyone else, which is why I'm cc'ing the list) would be interested in the FZ-35, please e-mail me privately and I'll let you know when it's available. A proposed price would be welcome. (Wouldn't normally advertize it here, but other people brought it up...) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)
I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to kick the tires on it a bit. I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness of a DSLR. But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/ http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)
It's a shame they went to an even noisier sensor. I haven't tried shooting the V-Lux at anything over ISO 100 so far. At what point does the noise start to really degrade the image? I really do like the lens a lot. If I found an exceptional deal on a gently used one of those Panasonic somewhere, I'd be sorely tempted to buy it as a lightweight carry-around for snapshots. -- Walt On 6/27/2013 2:24 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to kick the tires on it a bit. I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness of a DSLR. But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/ http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)
If you get a Panny, the fz-35 was the best superzoom they made IMO. Probably the best superzoom ever. IQ at ISO 100-200 is not bad. Especially if you shoot RAW. The Panny JPEG engine is well known for turning photographs into watercolors. At 400 it starts to creep in pretty good, but you can still get images suitable for smaller prints. The lens on the fz-28/fz-35 is sharpest around f4 and is very usable wide open, which is f2.8 at the wide end. Diffraction starts kicking in at f5 anyways, so you have a fairly limited fstop range to work with to begin with. Much like the Q. The image stabilization on those cameras is really, really good too. How many sharp shots can you get with your pentax at 1/20s @ 500mm? I carried one of these cameras everywhere for a few years and they served me rather well. The video off the fz-35 was quite decent in good light too. Only 720p though. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: It's a shame they went to an even noisier sensor. I haven't tried shooting the V-Lux at anything over ISO 100 so far. At what point does the noise start to really degrade the image? I really do like the lens a lot. If I found an exceptional deal on a gently used one of those Panasonic somewhere, I'd be sorely tempted to buy it as a lightweight carry-around for snapshots. -- Walt On 6/27/2013 2:24 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to kick the tires on it a bit. I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness of a DSLR. But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/ http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)
A nice image. I saw your first link on my Flickr page, since I have made you a contact. If I may...I was really struck by the Flickr crop of the image which, after comparing, I think is even more powerful than the full frame: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/waltcrop.png On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: If you get a Panny, the fz-35 was the best superzoom they made IMO. Probably the best superzoom ever. IQ at ISO 100-200 is not bad. Especially if you shoot RAW. The Panny JPEG engine is well known for turning photographs into watercolors. At 400 it starts to creep in pretty good, but you can still get images suitable for smaller prints. The lens on the fz-28/fz-35 is sharpest around f4 and is very usable wide open, which is f2.8 at the wide end. Diffraction starts kicking in at f5 anyways, so you have a fairly limited fstop range to work with to begin with. Much like the Q. The image stabilization on those cameras is really, really good too. How many sharp shots can you get with your pentax at 1/20s @ 500mm? I carried one of these cameras everywhere for a few years and they served me rather well. The video off the fz-35 was quite decent in good light too. Only 720p though. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: It's a shame they went to an even noisier sensor. I haven't tried shooting the V-Lux at anything over ISO 100 so far. At what point does the noise start to really degrade the image? I really do like the lens a lot. If I found an exceptional deal on a gently used one of those Panasonic somewhere, I'd be sorely tempted to buy it as a lightweight carry-around for snapshots. -- Walt On 6/27/2013 2:24 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to kick the tires on it a bit. I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness of a DSLR. But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/ http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)
Thanks, Darren! I do believe you're absolutely right about the crop. I'll have to revisit that shot and appreciate you pointing it out to me. -- Walt On 6/27/2013 3:57 PM, Darren Addy wrote: A nice image. I saw your first link on my Flickr page, since I have made you a contact. If I may...I was really struck by the Flickr crop of the image which, after comparing, I think is even more powerful than the full frame: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/waltcrop.png On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: If you get a Panny, the fz-35 was the best superzoom they made IMO. Probably the best superzoom ever. IQ at ISO 100-200 is not bad. Especially if you shoot RAW. The Panny JPEG engine is well known for turning photographs into watercolors. At 400 it starts to creep in pretty good, but you can still get images suitable for smaller prints. The lens on the fz-28/fz-35 is sharpest around f4 and is very usable wide open, which is f2.8 at the wide end. Diffraction starts kicking in at f5 anyways, so you have a fairly limited fstop range to work with to begin with. Much like the Q. The image stabilization on those cameras is really, really good too. How many sharp shots can you get with your pentax at 1/20s @ 500mm? I carried one of these cameras everywhere for a few years and they served me rather well. The video off the fz-35 was quite decent in good light too. Only 720p though. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: It's a shame they went to an even noisier sensor. I haven't tried shooting the V-Lux at anything over ISO 100 so far. At what point does the noise start to really degrade the image? I really do like the lens a lot. If I found an exceptional deal on a gently used one of those Panasonic somewhere, I'd be sorely tempted to buy it as a lightweight carry-around for snapshots. -- Walt On 6/27/2013 2:24 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to kick the tires on it a bit. I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness of a DSLR. But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/ http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:24:23PM -0400, Zos Xavius wrote: I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras. I have an FZ20, and briefly had an FZ50. When it was stolen, I replaced it with my K100Ds, because the low light performance just didn't work for me. The FZ50 had the best user interface of any point and shoot that I've ever used. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to kick the tires on it a bit. I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness of a DSLR. But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/ http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)
Here's the new crop with a touch of softening -- just because I thought it looked a little better that way. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9155680616/ Thanks again for the heads-up! I think it really did improve the shot. -- Walt On 6/27/2013 3:57 PM, Darren Addy wrote: A nice image. I saw your first link on my Flickr page, since I have made you a contact. If I may...I was really struck by the Flickr crop of the image which, after comparing, I think is even more powerful than the full frame: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/waltcrop.png On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: If you get a Panny, the fz-35 was the best superzoom they made IMO. Probably the best superzoom ever. IQ at ISO 100-200 is not bad. Especially if you shoot RAW. The Panny JPEG engine is well known for turning photographs into watercolors. At 400 it starts to creep in pretty good, but you can still get images suitable for smaller prints. The lens on the fz-28/fz-35 is sharpest around f4 and is very usable wide open, which is f2.8 at the wide end. Diffraction starts kicking in at f5 anyways, so you have a fairly limited fstop range to work with to begin with. Much like the Q. The image stabilization on those cameras is really, really good too. How many sharp shots can you get with your pentax at 1/20s @ 500mm? I carried one of these cameras everywhere for a few years and they served me rather well. The video off the fz-35 was quite decent in good light too. Only 720p though. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: It's a shame they went to an even noisier sensor. I haven't tried shooting the V-Lux at anything over ISO 100 so far. At what point does the noise start to really degrade the image? I really do like the lens a lot. If I found an exceptional deal on a gently used one of those Panasonic somewhere, I'd be sorely tempted to buy it as a lightweight carry-around for snapshots. -- Walt On 6/27/2013 2:24 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to kick the tires on it a bit. I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness of a DSLR. But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/ http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)
On 6/27/2013 4:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:24:23PM -0400, Zos Xavius wrote: I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras. I have an FZ20, and briefly had an FZ50. When it was stolen, I replaced it with my K100Ds, because the low light performance just didn't work for me. The FZ50 had the best user interface of any point and shoot that I've ever used. I have to say, if I had to go back to a point-and-shoot for whatever reason, that'd be the one I get. Hard to believe it's over six years old. I guess that really doesn't exhibit itself until you get in low light. But, wow -- what a great daylight camera. -- Walt On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to kick the tires on it a bit. I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness of a DSLR. But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/ http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)
That's an excellent image, Walt. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the new crop with a touch of softening -- just because I thought it looked a little better that way. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9155680616/ Thanks again for the heads-up! I think it really did improve the shot. -- Walt On 6/27/2013 3:57 PM, Darren Addy wrote: A nice image. I saw your first link on my Flickr page, since I have made you a contact. If I may...I was really struck by the Flickr crop of the image which, after comparing, I think is even more powerful than the full frame: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/waltcrop.png On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: If you get a Panny, the fz-35 was the best superzoom they made IMO. Probably the best superzoom ever. IQ at ISO 100-200 is not bad. Especially if you shoot RAW. The Panny JPEG engine is well known for turning photographs into watercolors. At 400 it starts to creep in pretty good, but you can still get images suitable for smaller prints. The lens on the fz-28/fz-35 is sharpest around f4 and is very usable wide open, which is f2.8 at the wide end. Diffraction starts kicking in at f5 anyways, so you have a fairly limited fstop range to work with to begin with. Much like the Q. The image stabilization on those cameras is really, really good too. How many sharp shots can you get with your pentax at 1/20s @ 500mm? I carried one of these cameras everywhere for a few years and they served me rather well. The video off the fz-35 was quite decent in good light too. Only 720p though. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: It's a shame they went to an even noisier sensor. I haven't tried shooting the V-Lux at anything over ISO 100 so far. At what point does the noise start to really degrade the image? I really do like the lens a lot. If I found an exceptional deal on a gently used one of those Panasonic somewhere, I'd be sorely tempted to buy it as a lightweight carry-around for snapshots. -- Walt On 6/27/2013 2:24 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to kick the tires on it a bit. I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness of a DSLR. But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/ http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
