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From Jewish or Moslem POV it could be called Pagan flu, I guess. Sheesh. Jostein 2009/5/2 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Just be sure to stay safe, Frank. On the funny note, the pig flu or swine flu or whatever is the name is not likened by local health ministry officials. They suggested Mexican flu instead. The last thing I heard about it was that Mexicans did not quite like this alternative term... The last thing people should worry about is how exactly to call this virus... Boris frank theriault wrote: I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare. Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp Thank God we're being pro-active about this. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I go bush for 2 weeks come back to news of this new virus. Obviously I am the glue that keeps the global communities health intact. Pfft DS 2009/4/29 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare. Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp Thank God we're being pro-active about this. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Re: OT - I'm Safe Now From Jewish or Moslem POV it could be called Pagan flu, I guess. Sheesh. Whats wrong with H1N1? Anyway, it's looking like this is no worse than any other flu virus that makes the rounds, so we can all stop panicking about this and go back to our normal panicking. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From Jewish or Moslem POV it could be called Pagan flu, I guess. Sheesh. Whats wrong with H1N1? Anyway, it's looking like this is no worse than any other flu virus that makes the rounds, so we can all stop panicking about this and go back to our normal panicking. You coulda told me that *before* I slaughtered all my pigs! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/5/3 William Robb war...@gmail.com: Whats wrong with H1N1? Anyway, it's looking like this is no worse than any other flu virus that makes the rounds, so we can all stop panicking about this and go back to our normal panicking. hehehe! Now where were we? Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/5/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: You coulda told me that *before* I slaughtered all my pigs! I slaughtered the wife just to be on the safe side -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Re: OT - I'm Safe Now From Jewish or Moslem POV it could be called Pagan flu, I guess. Sheesh. Whats wrong with H1N1? Anyway, it's looking like this is no worse than any other flu virus that makes the rounds, so we can all stop panicking about this and go back to our normal panicking. CNN says to panic. I do what ever Cnn tells me to. Dave William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Just be sure to stay safe, Frank. On the funny note, the pig flu or swine flu or whatever is the name is not likened by local health ministry officials. They suggested Mexican flu instead. The last thing I heard about it was that Mexicans did not quite like this alternative term... The last thing people should worry about is how exactly to call this virus... Boris frank theriault wrote: I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare. Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp Thank God we're being pro-active about this. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 28, 2009, at 15:32, frank theriault wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Er.. I mean, Mark. Sorry. I'll go and blow my nose now. :-) Are you mocking the pig flu? Don't ever mock a pandemic! A friend of mine is calling it Hamthrax... -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On May 2, 2009, at 7:25, Boris Liberman wrote: Just be sure to stay safe, Frank. On the funny note, the pig flu or swine flu or whatever is the name is not likened by local health ministry officials. They suggested Mexican flu instead. The last thing I heard about it was that Mexicans did not quite like this alternative term... I heard that they wanted a different name for it because Swine is not kosher. Seriously. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Indeed, I for a moment assumed that everyone knew that according to Judaism pig is not edible. Boris Charles Robinson wrote: On May 2, 2009, at 7:25, Boris Liberman wrote: Just be sure to stay safe, Frank. On the funny note, the pig flu or swine flu or whatever is the name is not likened by local health ministry officials. They suggested Mexican flu instead. The last thing I heard about it was that Mexicans did not quite like this alternative term... I heard that they wanted a different name for it because Swine is not kosher. Seriously. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On May 2, 2009, at 10:42, Boris Liberman wrote: Indeed, I for a moment assumed that everyone knew that according to Judaism pig is not edible. Oh, I knew that well enough. I just didn't know that it was not OK to even call an illness after them! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris Liberman wrote: Just be sure to stay safe, Frank. On the funny note, the pig flu or swine flu or whatever is the name is not likened by local health ministry officials. They suggested Mexican flu instead. The last thing I heard about it was that Mexicans did not quite like this alternative term... The last thing people should worry about is how exactly to call this virus... Boris I respectfully disagree, Boris. People need to label things for understanding and identification. We ALWAYS need to know what to call something. It seems cumbersome to call it, You know, that virus they are finding most often in Mexico in recent days. keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, giving things names is meant in order to make communication easier. So that if everyone is calling something A and certain, may be even small, group of people is calling it B, it is asking for miscommunication. But world knew worse occurrences. Boris Keith Whaley wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Just be sure to stay safe, Frank. On the funny note, the pig flu or swine flu or whatever is the name is not likened by local health ministry officials. They suggested Mexican flu instead. The last thing I heard about it was that Mexicans did not quite like this alternative term... The last thing people should worry about is how exactly to call this virus... Boris I respectfully disagree, Boris. People need to label things for understanding and identification. We ALWAYS need to know what to call something. It seems cumbersome to call it, You know, that virus they are finding most often in Mexico in recent days. keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 2, 2009, at 7:25, Boris Liberman wrote: Just be sure to stay safe, Frank. On the funny note, the pig flu or swine flu or whatever is the name is not likened by local health ministry officials. They suggested Mexican flu instead. The last thing I heard about it was that Mexicans did not quite like this alternative term... I heard that they wanted a different name for it because Swine is not kosher. Seriously. How about, The other white meat flu. Could mean bird flu or swine flu. Covers most of it. Dave -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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...as long as you don't mean poodle flu... LF David J Brooks escreveu: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 2, 2009, at 7:25, Boris Liberman wrote: Just be sure to stay safe, Frank. On the funny note, the pig flu or swine flu or whatever is the name is not likened by local health ministry officials. They suggested Mexican flu instead. The last thing I heard about it was that Mexicans did not quite like this alternative term... I heard that they wanted a different name for it because Swine is not kosher. Seriously. How about, The other white meat flu. Could mean bird flu or swine flu. Covers most of it. Dave -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://www.slagoon.com/store/book2.html LF Luiz Felipe escreveu: ...as long as you don't mean poodle flu... LF David J Brooks escreveu: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 2, 2009, at 7:25, Boris Liberman wrote: Just be sure to stay safe, Frank. On the funny note, the pig flu or swine flu or whatever is the name is not likened by local health ministry officials. They suggested Mexican flu instead. The last thing I heard about it was that Mexicans did not quite like this alternative term... I heard that they wanted a different name for it because Swine is not kosher. Seriously. How about, The other white meat flu. Could mean bird flu or swine flu. Covers most of it. Dave -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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and, of course, it could get a lot worse. If the pig flu virus recombines with the bird flu virus we could end up with flying pig flu. Here in Cincinnati, OH there is a Flying Pig Marathon, which passes right by my front door. The event is tomorrow morning. Since this is the first one I have been here for I have no idea what to expect. Guess I'll keep the K20 handy and see what transpires. jm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I thought it was one sneeze fits all... Jostein Aha - sounds like Sniffelis. You get it from sneezy women. jm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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HAR MARK? Dave On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:06 PM, John Mullan k...@hotmail.com wrote: I thought it was one sneeze fits all... Jostein Aha - sounds like Sniffelis. You get it from sneezy women. jm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Is it officially a pandemic yet? I'd agree to epidemic off-hand, for sure, but it seems a bit difficult to see the true picture through the media noise. :-( Anyway, last I heard on the news is that mortality seems way much higher in Mexico than outside the country, which puzzles the scientists. But what's a good doomsday, Pentax related or not, if we can't joke about it? Jostein 2009/4/28 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Er.. I mean, Mark. Sorry. I'll go and blow my nose now. :-) Are you mocking the pig flu? Don't ever mock a pandemic! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Is it officially a pandemic yet? I'd agree to epidemic off-hand, for sure, but it seems a bit difficult to see the true picture through the media noise. :-( Anyway, last I heard on the news is that mortality seems way much higher in Mexico than outside the country, which puzzles the scientists. But what's a good doomsday, Pentax related or not, if we can't joke about it? Jostein Latest news here is that it's hitting certain ethnic and cultural minorities badly. They can't stand to be covered in rashers. 2009/4/28 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Er.. I mean, Mark. Sorry. I'll go and blow my nose now. :-) Are you mocking the pig flu? Don't ever mock a pandemic! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Is it officially a pandemic yet? I'd agree to epidemic off-hand, for sure, but it seems a bit difficult to see the true picture through the media noise. :-( Anyway, last I heard on the news is that mortality seems way much higher in Mexico than outside the country, which puzzles the scientists. But what's a good doomsday, Pentax related or not, if we can't joke about it? Jostein Latest news here is that it's hitting certain ethnic and cultural minorities badly. They can't stand to be covered in rashers. Truth in jest. One of the reasons why pork features so much in Spanish cooking is that before the reconquista and the expulsion of the Muslims and the Jews, eating pork was a way of emphasising your Christianity. Under the Inquisition it was a sign of loyalty to the church. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Is it officially a pandemic yet? I'd agree to epidemic off-hand, for sure, but it seems a bit difficult to see the true picture through the media noise. :-( Anyway, last I heard on the news is that mortality seems way much higher in Mexico than outside the country, which puzzles the scientists. But what's a good doomsday, Pentax related or not, if we can't joke about it? Jostein Latest news here is that it's hitting certain ethnic and cultural minorities badly. They can't stand to be covered in rashers. Truth in jest. One of the reasons why pork features so much in Spanish cooking is that before the reconquista and the expulsion of the Muslims and the Jews, eating pork was a way of emphasising your Christianity. Under the Inquisition it was a sign of loyalty to the church. Bob No one expects the Spanish Inquisition. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Was it before, or after the time when potatoes were deemed as devil-related since they came from the bottom of the earth?? Just wondering... ];-)) LF Bob W escreveu: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Is it officially a pandemic yet? I'd agree to epidemic off-hand, for sure, but it seems a bit difficult to see the true picture through the media noise. :-( Anyway, last I heard on the news is that mortality seems way much higher in Mexico than outside the country, which puzzles the scientists. But what's a good doomsday, Pentax related or not, if we can't joke about it? Jostein Latest news here is that it's hitting certain ethnic and cultural minorities badly. They can't stand to be covered in rashers. Truth in jest. One of the reasons why pork features so much in Spanish cooking is that before the reconquista and the expulsion of the Muslims and the Jews, eating pork was a way of emphasising your Christianity. Under the Inquisition it was a sign of loyalty to the church. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/4/29 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Latest news here is that it's hitting certain ethnic and cultural minorities badly. They can't stand to be covered in rashers. I thought it was one sneeze fits all... Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: Re: OT - I'm Safe Now AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Is it officially a pandemic yet? I'd agree to epidemic off-hand, for sure, but it seems a bit difficult to see the true picture through the media noise. :-( Anyway, last I heard on the news is that mortality seems way much higher in Mexico than outside the country, which puzzles the scientists. But what's a good doomsday, Pentax related or not, if we can't joke about it? Jostein Latest news here is that it's hitting certain ethnic and cultural minorities badly. They can't stand to be covered in rashers. Sounds like a racist flu.. 2009/4/28 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Er.. I mean, Mark. Sorry. I'll go and blow my nose now. :-) Are you mocking the pig flu? Don't ever mock a pandemic! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare. Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp Thank God we're being pro-active about this. cheers, frank We learnt our lesson in the Foot Mouth outbreak of 2001: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare. Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp Thank God we're being pro-active about this. cheers, frank and, of course, it could get a lot worse. If the pig flu virus recombines with the bird flu virus we could end up with flying pig flu. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/4/28 Bob W p...@web-options.com: and, of course, it could get a lot worse. If the pig flu virus recombines with the bird flu virus we could end up with flying pig flu. Oink! Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Er.. I mean, Mark. Sorry. I'll go and blow my nose now. :-) Jostein 2009/4/28 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: 2009/4/28 Bob W p...@web-options.com: and, of course, it could get a lot worse. If the pig flu virus recombines with the bird flu virus we could end up with flying pig flu. Oink! Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Er.. I mean, Mark. Sorry. I'll go and blow my nose now. :-) Are you mocking the pig flu? Don't ever mock a pandemic! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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They gave us those hand cleaner thingies at the beginning of the school year. I have never had so many colds in one year as this season. I don't think they work to great:-0 Dave On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare. Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp Thank God we're being pro-active about this. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob W wrote: I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare. Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp Thank God we're being pro-active about this. cheers, frank and, of course, it could get a lot worse. If the pig flu virus recombines with the bird flu virus we could end up with flying pig flu. Isn't Swine Flu just the past tense of flying pig? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28/4/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare. Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp Thank God we're being pro-active about this. I'm doing my part by visiting my little friend Maisy down on the farm only twice a week. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My problem with those little bottles of hand sanitizer is that it only kills 99.9% of germs. The manufacturers tout this as a feature (they proclaim it right on the bottles), but I see it as a liability. Because that 0.1% of germs that survive to reproduce will logically be the strongest most horrible versions of the germ. It's natural selection speeded up many times. We destroy the weakest strains of the germ, and leave the strongest to continue spreading. And meanwhile our bodies never develop any kind of natural immunity. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: They gave us those hand cleaner thingies at the beginning of the school year. I have never had so many colds in one year as this season. I don't think they work to great:-0 Dave On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare. Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp Thank God we're being pro-active about this. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 05:08:57PM -0500, Nick Wright scripsit: My problem with those little bottles of hand sanitizer is that it only kills 99.9% of germs. The manufacturers tout this as a feature (they proclaim it right on the bottles), but I see it as a liability. Because that 0.1% of germs that survive to reproduce will logically be the strongest most horrible versions of the germ. Nope. Generally, they'll be the germs that got the least amount of exposure to the alcohol. It says nothing about how virulent they are. Generally you *want* to make the selection about surviving nasty chemicals rather than being an efficient parasite of humans. The bug that learnt how to metabolize chlorine bleach is scary to think about, but it now *needs* chlorine bleach, and there is (I hope!) none inside you. It's natural selection speeded up many times. We destroy the weakest strains of the germ, and leave the strongest to continue spreading. A billion years of yeast hasn't found one that can cope with more than about 25% ethanol. I'm not worried we're going to produce something that can shrug alcohol (or put all the distillers out of work by making 90 proof wine) and what you're really doing by washing your hands is reducing the odds of systemic infection. And meanwhile our bodies never develop any kind of natural immunity. Sure they do. It just doesn't get overwhelmed. All killing 99.9% of the germs on your hands does is multiply the default risk of systemic infection by 0.01 (because it's really going to be 99% unless you're emulating the lab conditions of the test; mind you got all of both thumbs...); if that risk is a chance of 0.1 out of 1 per exposure (one handshake, one nearby sneeze, etc.) it becomes 0.001. If you're exposed 10 times at the 0.1 chance that's (0.9)^10 = 0.35 that you *won't* get it. (Which is two chances in three that you _will_.) If you're exposed 10 times at the 0.001 chance that's (0.999)^10 = 0.99 that you *won't* get it. (One chance in a hundred that you _will_.) Since people constantly touch their faces and get what's on their hands into the mucous membranes (eyes, nose, mouth) that way, this is very much worth doing with respect to contagious diseases. Alcohol sanitizers are preferred for cases where there's no obvious soiling; it's easier on your skin and works just as well. Mind you get both thumbs. -- Graydon, who will admit to a bit of a bee in his bonnet about this. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Drove a public transportation city bus for 6 years, and only got the flu once. Never got colds, or any of the other things the coughing hacking disease ridden homeless tried to infect me with through their hands, spittle, or money. I attribute that to the immunities developed not only from the constant exposure, but to my mother's philosophy that a kid too clean was gonna be a sick kid. Questions to her like what do ants taste like? were met with eat a few and tell me (bitter). Same with dirt, dirty things, etc.. Not that we were dirt-bag kids, just not concerned with germs. Swine flu? Kiss a pig! Wash your hands? Before dinner, but not lunch. Dinner we used linen, lunch was paper napkins. Linen had to last a week. On Apr 28, 2009, at 15:08 , Nick Wright wrote: My problem with those little bottles of hand sanitizer is that it only kills 99.9% of germs. The manufacturers tout this as a feature (they proclaim it right on the bottles), but I see it as a liability. Because that 0.1% of germs that survive to reproduce will logically be the strongest most horrible versions of the germ. It's natural selection speeded up many times. We destroy the weakest strains of the germ, and leave the strongest to continue spreading. And meanwhile our bodies never develop any kind of natural immunity. If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Soaps with anti-bacterial ingredients do nothing to stop viruses. Since most use a small trace of alcohol and many bacteria thrive on traces of alcohol, they aren't particularly effective against bacteria either. This told to me by my doctor at the height of the flu season last December. He suggested just keeping your hands clean did as well, and wearing a mask to help not spread any viruses to other people. Plain old Ivory soap and warm water do just as well as all these fancy soaps. Godfrey On Apr 28, 2009, at 1:43 PM, David J Brooks wrote: They gave us those hand cleaner thingies at the beginning of the school year. I have never had so many colds in one year as this season. I don't think they work to great:-0 Dave On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare. Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes, my mother's philosophy, revealed to us with her grandchildren (our kids), was They have to eat a pound of dirt before they die. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Drove a public transportation city bus for 6 years, and only got the flu once. Never got colds, or any of the other things the coughing hacking disease ridden homeless tried to infect me with through their hands, spittle, or money. I attribute that to the immunities developed not only from the constant exposure, but to my mother's philosophy that a kid too clean was gonna be a sick kid. Questions to her like what do ants taste like? were met with eat a few and tell me (bitter). Same with dirt, dirty things, etc.. Not that we were dirt-bag kids, just not concerned with germs. Swine flu? Kiss a pig! Wash your hands? Before dinner, but not lunch. Dinner we used linen, lunch was paper napkins. Linen had to last a week. On Apr 28, 2009, at 15:08 , Nick Wright wrote: My problem with those little bottles of hand sanitizer is that it only kills 99.9% of germs. The manufacturers tout this as a feature (they proclaim it right on the bottles), but I see it as a liability. Because that 0.1% of germs that survive to reproduce will logically be the strongest most horrible versions of the germ. It's natural selection speeded up many times. We destroy the weakest strains of the germ, and leave the strongest to continue spreading. And meanwhile our bodies never develop any kind of natural immunity. If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I thought you stopped seeing that pig... ;] Cotty wrote: On 28/4/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm doing my part by visiting my little friend Maisy down on the farm only twice a week. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.6/2084 - Release Date: 04/28/09 06:15:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT - I'm Safe Now On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Er.. I mean, Mark. Sorry. I'll go and blow my nose now. :-) Are you mocking the pig flu? Don't ever mock a pandemic! Don't ever miss an opportunity with a good crisis. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
