Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-18 Thread Polyhead
Its probably the daily blast down 55th ave.  Its 5% grade, so i hit around 
35-40mph, and it has pot holes, that I don't always miss.  I think the other 
problem is the cranking powe rI have.  I've been bmx racing since I was 12 
years old, and that sport is all about cranking power.  I snap chains, i crush 
bottom brackets, and explode free hubs.

> What are you doing to your poor wheels? I'm hard on wheels (~250lbs
> and not a finesse rider) and I get at least 2-3 years out of a set of
> machine-built wheels. Handbuilt wheels should last until you wear
> through the rim barring accidents. My current commuter ride has 3
> years on a XT/Mavic X517 combo at the rear. 32-spoke 3x of course. The
> front got rebuilt after 10 years (Bad bearings meant a new hub, needs
> replacement though, the rim is not entirely true anymore).
> 
> -Adam
> 
> On 12/17/07, Polyhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I need to rebuild the wheels on the commuter which has no problem with 
> > > hills, no
> > > they never broke, but over 15 years the spokes have stretched (I keep 
> > > tight
> > > wheels) to the point where they come through the nipples. Yes the factory 
> > > should
> > > have used 2mm shorter spokes but I imagine the automatic wheel building 
> > > machine
> > > would have had problems with them. I am also going to put alloy rims on 
> > > the
> > > 3-speed, so another spoking job. Then there is the junk Raleigh I want to 
> > > do
> > > something with. I guess I will have enough to keep me busy for the winter.
> > >
> >
> > 15 years??  I'm lucky to get a year out of a back wheel.  Right now running 
> > a shimano XT hub laced up to a mavic cxp33.  I"ve gotten a year and a half 
> > out of that and i'm impressed with it.  Mind you, i think what does it out 
> > here are the hills.  Its 450ft of elevation change between work and home, 
> > and its not just straight up hill it wanders.  There are a couple of places 
> > i top 30mph and that seems to kind of ruin the rim.  Between climbing hard 
> > and decending fast the spokes start to pull through the rim.  Had to go 
> > with a mavic rim this go around because velocity deep v's were on like 
> > infinite back order.
> >
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-18 Thread Polyhead
It is against the wind both ways often!  The george wind rips through the 
valley during the winter.  During the day it blows east, at night it blows 
west, which puts me against it on the way in to work, and against it on the way 
home.

> Yeah, right. It's uphill and against the wind - both ways.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob...
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Polyhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > 15 years??  I'm lucky to get a year out of a back wheel.  Right now 
> > running a shimano XT hub laced up to a mavic cxp33.  I"ve gotten a year 
> > and a half out of that and i'm impressed with it.  Mind you, i think what 
> > does it out here are the hills.  Its 450ft of elevation change between 
> > work and home, and its not just straight up hill it wanders.  There are a 
> > couple of places i top 30mph and that seems to kind of ruin the rim. 
> > Between climbing hard and decending fast the spokes start to pull through 
> > the rim.  Had to go with a mavic rim this go around because velocity deep 
> > v's were on like infinite back order.
> 
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-17 Thread Scott Loveless
Sounds a lot like too much tension on the spokes.

Adam Maas wrote:
> What are you doing to your poor wheels? I'm hard on wheels (~250lbs
> and not a finesse rider) and I get at least 2-3 years out of a set of
> machine-built wheels. Handbuilt wheels should last until you wear
> through the rim barring accidents. My current commuter ride has 3
> years on a XT/Mavic X517 combo at the rear. 32-spoke 3x of course. The
> front got rebuilt after 10 years (Bad bearings meant a new hub, needs
> replacement though, the rim is not entirely true anymore).
> 
> -Adam
> 
> On 12/17/07, Polyhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I need to rebuild the wheels on the commuter which has no problem with 
>>> hills, no
>>> they never broke, but over 15 years the spokes have stretched (I keep tight
>>> wheels) to the point where they come through the nipples. Yes the factory 
>>> should
>>> have used 2mm shorter spokes but I imagine the automatic wheel building 
>>> machine
>>> would have had problems with them. I am also going to put alloy rims on the
>>> 3-speed, so another spoking job. Then there is the junk Raleigh I want to do
>>> something with. I guess I will have enough to keep me busy for the winter.
>>>
>> 15 years??  I'm lucky to get a year out of a back wheel.  Right now running 
>> a shimano XT hub laced up to a mavic cxp33.  I"ve gotten a year and a half 
>> out of that and i'm impressed with it.  Mind you, i think what does it out 
>> here are the hills.  Its 450ft of elevation change between work and home, 
>> and its not just straight up hill it wanders.  There are a couple of places 
>> i top 30mph and that seems to kind of ruin the rim.  Between climbing hard 
>> and decending fast the spokes start to pull through the rim.  Had to go with 
>> a mavic rim this go around because velocity deep v's were on like infinite 
>> back order.
>>
>>> Graywolf
>>> Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com
>>> Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-17 Thread Adam Maas
What are you doing to your poor wheels? I'm hard on wheels (~250lbs
and not a finesse rider) and I get at least 2-3 years out of a set of
machine-built wheels. Handbuilt wheels should last until you wear
through the rim barring accidents. My current commuter ride has 3
years on a XT/Mavic X517 combo at the rear. 32-spoke 3x of course. The
front got rebuilt after 10 years (Bad bearings meant a new hub, needs
replacement though, the rim is not entirely true anymore).

-Adam

On 12/17/07, Polyhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I need to rebuild the wheels on the commuter which has no problem with 
> > hills, no
> > they never broke, but over 15 years the spokes have stretched (I keep tight
> > wheels) to the point where they come through the nipples. Yes the factory 
> > should
> > have used 2mm shorter spokes but I imagine the automatic wheel building 
> > machine
> > would have had problems with them. I am also going to put alloy rims on the
> > 3-speed, so another spoking job. Then there is the junk Raleigh I want to do
> > something with. I guess I will have enough to keep me busy for the winter.
> >
>
> 15 years??  I'm lucky to get a year out of a back wheel.  Right now running a 
> shimano XT hub laced up to a mavic cxp33.  I"ve gotten a year and a half out 
> of that and i'm impressed with it.  Mind you, i think what does it out here 
> are the hills.  Its 450ft of elevation change between work and home, and its 
> not just straight up hill it wanders.  There are a couple of places i top 
> 30mph and that seems to kind of ruin the rim.  Between climbing hard and 
> decending fast the spokes start to pull through the rim.  Had to go with a 
> mavic rim this go around because velocity deep v's were on like infinite back 
> order.
>
> > Graywolf
> > Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com
> > Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-17 Thread graywolf
Well, I remember riding against the wind both ways once. 70 miles in a 35mph 
headwind is kind of tiring, IIRC.

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Bob Blakely wrote:
> Yeah, right. It's uphill and against the wind - both ways.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob...
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Polyhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 15 years??  I'm lucky to get a year out of a back wheel.  Right now 
>> running a shimano XT hub laced up to a mavic cxp33.  I"ve gotten a year 
>> and a half out of that and i'm impressed with it.  Mind you, i think what 
>> does it out here are the hills.  Its 450ft of elevation change between 
>> work and home, and its not just straight up hill it wanders.  There are a 
>> couple of places i top 30mph and that seems to kind of ruin the rim. 
>> Between climbing hard and decending fast the spokes start to pull through 
>> the rim.  Had to go with a mavic rim this go around because velocity deep 
>> v's were on like infinite back order.
> 
> 

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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-17 Thread Bob Blakely
Yeah, right. It's uphill and against the wind - both ways.

Regards,
Bob...
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- Original Message - 
From: "Polyhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> 15 years??  I'm lucky to get a year out of a back wheel.  Right now 
> running a shimano XT hub laced up to a mavic cxp33.  I"ve gotten a year 
> and a half out of that and i'm impressed with it.  Mind you, i think what 
> does it out here are the hills.  Its 450ft of elevation change between 
> work and home, and its not just straight up hill it wanders.  There are a 
> couple of places i top 30mph and that seems to kind of ruin the rim. 
> Between climbing hard and decending fast the spokes start to pull through 
> the rim.  Had to go with a mavic rim this go around because velocity deep 
> v's were on like infinite back order.


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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-17 Thread Polyhead

> I need to rebuild the wheels on the commuter which has no problem with hills, 
> no 
> they never broke, but over 15 years the spokes have stretched (I keep tight 
> wheels) to the point where they come through the nipples. Yes the factory 
> should 
> have used 2mm shorter spokes but I imagine the automatic wheel building 
> machine 
> would have had problems with them. I am also going to put alloy rims on the 
> 3-speed, so another spoking job. Then there is the junk Raleigh I want to do 
> something with. I guess I will have enough to keep me busy for the winter.
> 

15 years??  I'm lucky to get a year out of a back wheel.  Right now running a 
shimano XT hub laced up to a mavic cxp33.  I"ve gotten a year and a half out of 
that and i'm impressed with it.  Mind you, i think what does it out here are 
the hills.  Its 450ft of elevation change between work and home, and its not 
just straight up hill it wanders.  There are a couple of places i top 30mph and 
that seems to kind of ruin the rim.  Between climbing hard and decending fast 
the spokes start to pull through the rim.  Had to go with a mavic rim this go 
around because velocity deep v's were on like infinite back order.

> Graywolf
> Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com
> Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-17 Thread graywolf
Naw, it wouldn't. I once commuted all winter in Detroit. Everyone knew me, I as 
the guy with icicles in his beard.

My problem has been health, hills, and local helmet law. Not much I seem to be 
able to do about the first. I am going to regear the 3-speed for the second. 
And 
I resent the hell out of the third.

I need to rebuild the wheels on the commuter which has no problem with hills, 
no 
they never broke, but over 15 years the spokes have stretched (I keep tight 
wheels) to the point where they come through the nipples. Yes the factory 
should 
have used 2mm shorter spokes but I imagine the automatic wheel building machine 
would have had problems with them. I am also going to put alloy rims on the 
3-speed, so another spoking job. Then there is the junk Raleigh I want to do 
something with. I guess I will have enough to keep me busy for the winter.


Graywolf
Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/
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Polyhead wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:58:39 -0500
> graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I am wearing my sense of humor today, luckily for you. Besides we are busy 
>> having our first snow accumulation. I knew that would happen if I thought 
>> about 
>> bicycles for a bit.
> 
> No need to let snow stop you.  If it snows, I just break out the 24" cruiser 
> class bmx bike i race on.  I keep thinking though, the new 29" stuff.. that 
> would be sweet on the snow.  I keep eyeing the new redline rigid unit, the 
> one made from sanco cromo tubing and replacable drop outs.  The flight is 
> hot, and at $800, its a bargain.
> 

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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-17 Thread Polyhead
http://polyhead.net/coppermine/index.php?cat=8

My bmx bikes.  Thinking about retiring the S&M bennett.  Every tube on it has a 
dent, the rear triangle is a bit bent, the OG pitchfork that i rode with for 
years.. it didn't break but for years i had to run gobs of shims on one side to 
center the tire, as it turns out, the drop outs were welded on crooked.  Why it 
took me 4 years to work that out, i'll never know.

I also have a cummuter rig, 2003  gary fisher utopia with the silly fork 
removed and a kenesis unit off of a lemond put in its place.  I do an 11 mile 
ride home from work every work night.  Car free for the last 7 years now.

> Polyhead said:
> 
> No need to let snow stop you.  If it snows, I just break out the 24" cruiser
> class bmx bike i race on.  I keep thinking though, the new 29" stuff.. that
> would be sweet on the snow.  I keep eyeing the new redline rigid unit, the
> one made from sanco cromo tubing and replacable drop outs.  The flight is
> hot, and at $800, its a bargain.
> 
> --
> 
> 
> Ah - a fellow bmx-er.  I've got an earlier model monocog - 26".  I raced it
> for a while before retiring (too many broken bones).  It's now back in its
> original configuration, with slicks on it. I've always lusted after a
> flight... 
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> Peter in western Sydney
> 
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RE: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-17 Thread Peter McIntosh
Polyhead said:

No need to let snow stop you.  If it snows, I just break out the 24" cruiser
class bmx bike i race on.  I keep thinking though, the new 29" stuff.. that
would be sweet on the snow.  I keep eyeing the new redline rigid unit, the
one made from sanco cromo tubing and replacable drop outs.  The flight is
hot, and at $800, its a bargain.

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Ah - a fellow bmx-er.  I've got an earlier model monocog - 26".  I raced it
for a while before retiring (too many broken bones).  It's now back in its
original configuration, with slicks on it. I've always lusted after a
flight... 

Ciao,

Peter in western Sydney


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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-17 Thread Polyhead
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:58:39 -0500
graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am wearing my sense of humor today, luckily for you. Besides we are busy 
> having our first snow accumulation. I knew that would happen if I thought 
> about 
> bicycles for a bit.

No need to let snow stop you.  If it snows, I just break out the 24" cruiser 
class bmx bike i race on.  I keep thinking though, the new 29" stuff.. that 
would be sweet on the snow.  I keep eyeing the new redline rigid unit, the one 
made from sanco cromo tubing and replacable drop outs.  The flight is hot, and 
at $800, its a bargain.

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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-16 Thread mike wilson
graywolf wrote:

> I knew that would happen if I thought about 
> bicycles for a bit.

Mark!

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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-16 Thread keith_w
Mark Roberts wrote:

> Cotty wrote:
> 
>> On 16/12/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
 >>
>>> Got out of the wrong side of the bed today did we?
 >>
>> Trust me. You do *not* want to be saying that to Graywolf.


> His bed doesn't have a right side ;-)


A more genteel way of saying that would have been:

"I'm not sure his bed HAS a right side. ;-)"

Feel free to use that, even without attribution, if you wish...

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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-16 Thread pnstenquist
Happy snow day, Tom. We got a foot. I'll bet you don't score quite that much.
Paul
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From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I am wearing my sense of humor today, luckily for you. Besides we are busy 
> having our first snow accumulation. I knew that would happen if I thought 
> about 
> bicycles for a bit.
> 
> My comment was somewhat tongue in cheek, but also a wee bit of bitterness 
> over 
> the human tendency to believe that "My way" is "The only way", even when it 
> changes daily. Which is of course rather stupid, anyone who rants against 
> human 
> nature is being stupid, even me.
> 
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> 
> Cotty wrote:
> > 
>  Got out of the wrong side of the bed today did we?
> >>> Trust me. You do *not* want to be saying that to Graywolf.
> >> His bed doesn't have a right side ;-)
> > 
> > Actually Tom doesn't sleep in a bed - you'll find him hanging upside
> > down in the closet !
> > 
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-16 Thread graywolf
I am wearing my sense of humor today, luckily for you. Besides we are busy 
having our first snow accumulation. I knew that would happen if I thought about 
bicycles for a bit.

My comment was somewhat tongue in cheek, but also a wee bit of bitterness over 
the human tendency to believe that "My way" is "The only way", even when it 
changes daily. Which is of course rather stupid, anyone who rants against human 
nature is being stupid, even me.

Graywolf
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Cotty wrote:
> 
 Got out of the wrong side of the bed today did we?
>>> Trust me. You do *not* want to be saying that to Graywolf.
>> His bed doesn't have a right side ;-)
> 
> Actually Tom doesn't sleep in a bed - you'll find him hanging upside
> down in the closet !
> 

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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-16 Thread Cotty


>>>Got out of the wrong side of the bed today did we?
>>
>>Trust me. You do *not* want to be saying that to Graywolf.
>
>His bed doesn't have a right side ;-)

Actually Tom doesn't sleep in a bed - you'll find him hanging upside
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-16 Thread Polyhead
meh, can we just drop the drama, and mail it all to me?

> Tom
> 
> I'm not sure if this is a tounge in cheek response or your serious.
> 
> Yes most of us here are shooting digital, and yes i made what should
> have been taken as a humorous response, but to say no one is
> interested in film cameras is absurd.
> 
> Everyone here has or still has old film cameras somewhere in the
> closet. I still have ALL of my m42 cameras and glass. To insinuate
> that film shooters are"tolerated" is pure BS.
> 
> I normally agree with 90% of what you post here, i have to majorly
> disagree with you on this subject.,
> 
> Sorry.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Dec 15, 2007 4:56 PM, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I can understand your feelings, you come top what claims to be a Pentax 
> > camera
> > list and find no one interested in Pentax cameras. It is now the "pentax 
> > DIGITAL
> > mailing list", a strange place to brag about your rather ordinary snaps that
> > could just as well have been taken with a cel-phone. Film cameras are 
> > useless to
> > most of the folks here. There are a few of us hanger-ons but we are not
> > tolerated well; since we do not subscribe to the proper religion.
> >
> > Since it sounds more like you were trying to find them a home where they 
> > would
> > be appreciated than to make a buck out of them, let me apologize for the
> > heartless response you got.
> >
> >
> >
> > Graywolf
> > Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com
> > Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/
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> >
> >
> > chuck wrote:
> > > Really, I'd rather drop it off at a charity shop than go thru the
> > > ebay hassles.
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread P. J. Alling
That's not exactly true, when the bottom fell out of the film camera 
market I picked up most of the screw mount gear I wanted.  I have a 
"classic" 35mm kit in screw mount, an SMCT 35mm f3.5, an SMCT 50 f1.4,  
and a SMCT 135 f2.5 with a Komura Telemor II 2x converter for extra 
reach.with two primary bodies a Spot F and a ESII (and a H1 as a 
meterless body just because).  I don't have enough time to shoot my K 
mount equipment, let alone my m42 stuff.  I feel guilty about that 
sometimes.   So far I think Chuck has gotten some pretty good advice.  
Unless he has something really special,. he's better off selling the 
stuff on e-bay.

graywolf wrote:
> I can understand your feelings, you come top what claims to be a Pentax 
> camera 
> list and find no one interested in Pentax cameras. It is now the "pentax 
> DIGITAL 
> mailing list", a strange place to brag about your rather ordinary snaps that 
> could just as well have been taken with a cel-phone. Film cameras are useless 
> to 
> most of the folks here. There are a few of us hanger-ons but we are not 
> tolerated well; since we do not subscribe to the proper religion.
>
> Since it sounds more like you were trying to find them a home where they 
> would 
> be appreciated than to make a buck out of them, let me apologize for the 
> heartless response you got.
>
>
>
> Graywolf
> Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com
> Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/
> ---
>
> chuck wrote:
>   
>> Really, I'd rather drop it off at a charity shop than go thru the
>> ebay hassles.
>>
>> Just looking to unload it on someone who would use it.
>> Not looking for the earth here. Sorry to be a bother
>> and all.
>>
>> 
>
>   


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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:

>On 16/12/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Got out of the wrong side of the bed today did we?
>
>Trust me. You do *not* want to be saying that to Graywolf.

His bed doesn't have a right side ;-)


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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Chuck,
No intent to offend you.
A lot of us love the old screwmount gear.
The lenses remind me more of the new premium, metal "Limited" lens line.
Many folks here would be happy to have them,
but nobody wants to take advantage of you.
We shoot with Pentax digital because the film is so cheap... ;-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Dec 15, 2007 10:01 AM, chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Really, I'd rather drop it off at a charity shop than go thru the
> ebay hassles.
>
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> Not looking for the earth here. Sorry to be a bother
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread David Savage
On Dec 16, 2007 7:16 AM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 16/12/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Got out of the wrong side of the bed today did we?
>
> Trust me. You do *not* want to be saying that to Graywolf.

Too late.

Cheers,

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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread David J Brooks
Tom

I'm not sure if this is a tounge in cheek response or your serious.

Yes most of us here are shooting digital, and yes i made what should
have been taken as a humorous response, but to say no one is
interested in film cameras is absurd.

Everyone here has or still has old film cameras somewhere in the
closet. I still have ALL of my m42 cameras and glass. To insinuate
that film shooters are"tolerated" is pure BS.

I normally agree with 90% of what you post here, i have to majorly
disagree with you on this subject.,

Sorry.

Dave

On Dec 15, 2007 4:56 PM, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can understand your feelings, you come top what claims to be a Pentax camera
> list and find no one interested in Pentax cameras. It is now the "pentax 
> DIGITAL
> mailing list", a strange place to brag about your rather ordinary snaps that
> could just as well have been taken with a cel-phone. Film cameras are useless 
> to
> most of the folks here. There are a few of us hanger-ons but we are not
> tolerated well; since we do not subscribe to the proper religion.
>
> Since it sounds more like you were trying to find them a home where they would
> be appreciated than to make a buck out of them, let me apologize for the
> heartless response you got.
>
>
>
> Graywolf
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> ---
>
>
> chuck wrote:
> > Really, I'd rather drop it off at a charity shop than go thru the
> > ebay hassles.
> >
> > Just looking to unload it on someone who would use it.
> > Not looking for the earth here. Sorry to be a bother
> > and all.
> >
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread pnstenquist
A bit of silliness from Tom. But that's okay. In fact, many of us have 
Spotmatics. I have three and quite a few lenses as well. I just don't need 
another. And no, most of us don't shoot much film. And yes, many of the pics we 
take could have been taken with a cell phone. But so too many of the pics folks 
take with Spotmatics. They're all just photographs, nothing more, nothing less.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I can understand your feelings, you come top what claims to be a Pentax 
> camera 
> list and find no one interested in Pentax cameras. It is now the "pentax 
> DIGITAL 
> mailing list", a strange place to brag about your rather ordinary snaps that 
> could just as well have been taken with a cel-phone. Film cameras are useless 
> to 
> most of the folks here. There are a few of us hanger-ons but we are not 
> tolerated well; since we do not subscribe to the proper religion.
> 
> Since it sounds more like you were trying to find them a home where they 
> would 
> be appreciated than to make a buck out of them, let me apologize for the 
> heartless response you got.
> 
> 
> 
> Graywolf
> Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com
> Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/
> ---
> 
> chuck wrote:
> > Really, I'd rather drop it off at a charity shop than go thru the
> > ebay hassles.
> > 
> > Just looking to unload it on someone who would use it.
> > Not looking for the earth here. Sorry to be a bother
> > and all.
> > 
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread Cotty
On 16/12/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Got out of the wrong side of the bed today did we?

Trust me. You do *not* want to be saying that to Graywolf.

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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage"
Subject: Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear


> Got out of the wrong side of the bed today did we?

Geeze, what brought that on?

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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread David Savage
Got out of the wrong side of the bed today did we?

Cheers,

Dave

On Dec 16, 2007 6:56 AM, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can understand your feelings, you come top what claims to be a Pentax camera
> list and find no one interested in Pentax cameras. It is now the "pentax 
> DIGITAL
> mailing list", a strange place to brag about your rather ordinary snaps that
> could just as well have been taken with a cel-phone. Film cameras are useless 
> to
> most of the folks here. There are a few of us hanger-ons but we are not
> tolerated well; since we do not subscribe to the proper religion.
>
> Since it sounds more like you were trying to find them a home where they would
> be appreciated than to make a buck out of them, let me apologize for the
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread graywolf
I can understand your feelings, you come top what claims to be a Pentax camera 
list and find no one interested in Pentax cameras. It is now the "pentax 
DIGITAL 
mailing list", a strange place to brag about your rather ordinary snaps that 
could just as well have been taken with a cel-phone. Film cameras are useless 
to 
most of the folks here. There are a few of us hanger-ons but we are not 
tolerated well; since we do not subscribe to the proper religion.

Since it sounds more like you were trying to find them a home where they would 
be appreciated than to make a buck out of them, let me apologize for the 
heartless response you got.



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> Really, I'd rather drop it off at a charity shop than go thru the
> ebay hassles.
> 
> Just looking to unload it on someone who would use it.
> Not looking for the earth here. Sorry to be a bother
> and all.
> 

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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread Paul Crovella
I'd use it, but I'm not close enough for a simple drop-off. Try your 
local schools or www.freecycle.org

Cheers,
Paul

chuck wrote:
> Really, I'd rather drop it off at a charity shop than go thru the
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> 
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> Not looking for the earth here. Sorry to be a bother
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread Sandy Harris
On Dec 16, 2007 12:01 AM, chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Really, I'd rather drop it off at a charity shop than go thru the
> ebay hassles.
>
> Just looking to unload it on someone who would use it.

If you want to give it away, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is on another
list I subscribe to. He's a high school teacher who runs a
photo club and solicits donations for his students.

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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread Polyhead
Well, I would certainly use it.  Right now i have my P30t ... and my P30t :/

> Really, I'd rather drop it off at a charity shop than go thru the
> ebay hassles.
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 15, 2007 9:46 AM, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave,
> Careful now, my second biggest collection of unused equipment is
> Pentax screwmount!  ;-)
> Regards,  Bob S.

Mine to Bob, it was a feeble attempt at early morning, waiting for the
"big" snowstorm humour.

:-)

Dave
>
>
> On Dec 15, 2007 8:09 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Dec 14, 2007 11:46 PM, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Chuck,
> > > Describe each lens like SMC Takumar 135 f3.5 in whatever condition
> > > with clean glass. (or Super Takumar, or...)
> > > Add a good picture of the front and one from the side.
> > > End the auction on a Sunday if you can...
> > > There is still an active market for Pentax screwmount lenses.
> > > Regards,  Bob S.
> >
> > Also known as "Screwheads". This group pooled their resources and
> > bought the Partridge Families school bus, after Shirley kicked out the
> > little inbreeds for missing rehearsels.
> >
> > They tour the country side looking for SMC Taks, and SP's. They
> > sometimes stop for days at GFM in June, for some reason unknown to us.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 14, 2007 9:46 PM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Yes, I agree with Bob.  Don't put it all up as one lot - you'll get a 
> > > > better total price individually.
> > > >
> > > > As to the price you can expect, it's difficult to say.  The best idea 
> > > > is to do a bit of searching on ebay for the same or similar items and 
> > > > see what they go for.  There's quite a bit of Spotmatic gear and 
> > > > Takumars there so it shouldn't take too long to get a realistic 
> > > > expectation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > ++
> > > > Brian Walters
> > > > Western Sydney Australia
> > > > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Quoting Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >
> > > > > ebay. One piece at a time. Quality pics of equipment required for
> > > > > best
> > > > > price.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Bob...
> > > > > -
> > > > > Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
> > > > > but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> > > > >
> > > > > From: "chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Guyz, I have a briefcase full of an old Honeywell Spotmatic
> > > > > > and a bunch of lenses: 35, 55, 90, 135, 200 at least, and I
> > > > > > am in Durham NC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I no longer use this setup, having aged up and out not
> > > > > > so gracefully, and I'd like to find some good options for
> > > > > > disposing of it all together.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have no idea what it's worth nor how to dispose of it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas or suggestions, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave,
Careful now, my second biggest collection of unused equipment is
Pentax screwmount!  ;-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Dec 15, 2007 8:09 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 14, 2007 11:46 PM, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Chuck,
> > Describe each lens like SMC Takumar 135 f3.5 in whatever condition
> > with clean glass. (or Super Takumar, or...)
> > Add a good picture of the front and one from the side.
> > End the auction on a Sunday if you can...
> > There is still an active market for Pentax screwmount lenses.
> > Regards,  Bob S.
>
> Also known as "Screwheads". This group pooled their resources and
> bought the Partridge Families school bus, after Shirley kicked out the
> little inbreeds for missing rehearsels.
>
> They tour the country side looking for SMC Taks, and SP's. They
> sometimes stop for days at GFM in June, for some reason unknown to us.
>
> :-)
>
> Dave
>
> >
> >
> > On Dec 14, 2007 9:46 PM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Yes, I agree with Bob.  Don't put it all up as one lot - you'll get a 
> > > better total price individually.
> > >
> > > As to the price you can expect, it's difficult to say.  The best idea is 
> > > to do a bit of searching on ebay for the same or similar items and see 
> > > what they go for.  There's quite a bit of Spotmatic gear and Takumars 
> > > there so it shouldn't take too long to get a realistic expectation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > ++
> > > Brian Walters
> > > Western Sydney Australia
> > > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > > ebay. One piece at a time. Quality pics of equipment required for
> > > > best
> > > > price.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bob...
> > > > -
> > > > Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
> > > > but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> > > >
> > > > From: "chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hey Guyz, I have a briefcase full of an old Honeywell Spotmatic
> > > > > and a bunch of lenses: 35, 55, 90, 135, 200 at least, and I
> > > > > am in Durham NC.
> > > > >
> > > > > I no longer use this setup, having aged up and out not
> > > > > so gracefully, and I'd like to find some good options for
> > > > > disposing of it all together.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have no idea what it's worth nor how to dispose of it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas or suggestions, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 14, 2007 11:46 PM, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chuck,
> Describe each lens like SMC Takumar 135 f3.5 in whatever condition
> with clean glass. (or Super Takumar, or...)
> Add a good picture of the front and one from the side.
> End the auction on a Sunday if you can...
> There is still an active market for Pentax screwmount lenses.
> Regards,  Bob S.

Also known as "Screwheads". This group pooled their resources and
bought the Partridge Families school bus, after Shirley kicked out the
little inbreeds for missing rehearsels.

They tour the country side looking for SMC Taks, and SP's. They
sometimes stop for days at GFM in June, for some reason unknown to us.

:-)

Dave
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2007 9:46 PM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes, I agree with Bob.  Don't put it all up as one lot - you'll get a 
> > better total price individually.
> >
> > As to the price you can expect, it's difficult to say.  The best idea is to 
> > do a bit of searching on ebay for the same or similar items and see what 
> > they go for.  There's quite a bit of Spotmatic gear and Takumars there so 
> > it shouldn't take too long to get a realistic expectation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > ebay. One piece at a time. Quality pics of equipment required for
> > > best
> > > price.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Bob...
> > > -
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> > >
> > > From: "chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey Guyz, I have a briefcase full of an old Honeywell Spotmatic
> > > > and a bunch of lenses: 35, 55, 90, 135, 200 at least, and I
> > > > am in Durham NC.
> > > >
> > > > I no longer use this setup, having aged up and out not
> > > > so gracefully, and I'd like to find some good options for
> > > > disposing of it all together.
> > > >
> > > > Have no idea what it's worth nor how to dispose of it.
> > > >
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> > >
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Chuck,
Describe each lens like SMC Takumar 135 f3.5 in whatever condition
with clean glass. (or Super Takumar, or...)
Add a good picture of the front and one from the side.
End the auction on a Sunday if you can...
There is still an active market for Pentax screwmount lenses.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Dec 14, 2007 9:46 PM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I agree with Bob.  Don't put it all up as one lot - you'll get a better 
> total price individually.
>
> As to the price you can expect, it's difficult to say.  The best idea is to 
> do a bit of searching on ebay for the same or similar items and see what they 
> go for.  There's quite a bit of Spotmatic gear and Takumars there so it 
> shouldn't take too long to get a realistic expectation.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > ebay. One piece at a time. Quality pics of equipment required for
> > best
> > price.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob...
> > -
> > Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
> > but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> >
> > From: "chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> > > Hey Guyz, I have a briefcase full of an old Honeywell Spotmatic
> > > and a bunch of lenses: 35, 55, 90, 135, 200 at least, and I
> > > am in Durham NC.
> > >
> > > I no longer use this setup, having aged up and out not
> > > so gracefully, and I'd like to find some good options for
> > > disposing of it all together.
> > >
> > > Have no idea what it's worth nor how to dispose of it.
> > >
> > > Any ideas or suggestions, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-14 Thread Brian Walters
Yes, I agree with Bob.  Don't put it all up as one lot - you'll get a better 
total price individually.

As to the price you can expect, it's difficult to say.  The best idea is to do 
a bit of searching on ebay for the same or similar items and see what they go 
for.  There's quite a bit of Spotmatic gear and Takumars there so it shouldn't 
take too long to get a realistic expectation.



Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/






Quoting Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> ebay. One piece at a time. Quality pics of equipment required for
> best 
> price.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob...
> -
> Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
> but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> 
> From: "chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> > Hey Guyz, I have a briefcase full of an old Honeywell Spotmatic
> > and a bunch of lenses: 35, 55, 90, 135, 200 at least, and I
> > am in Durham NC.
> >
> > I no longer use this setup, having aged up and out not
> > so gracefully, and I'd like to find some good options for
> > disposing of it all together.
> >
> > Have no idea what it's worth nor how to dispose of it.
> >
> > Any ideas or suggestions, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>

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Re: Old Honeywell Pentax Gear

2007-12-14 Thread Bob Blakely
ebay. One piece at a time. Quality pics of equipment required for best 
price.

Regards,
Bob...
-
Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

From: "chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Hey Guyz, I have a briefcase full of an old Honeywell Spotmatic
> and a bunch of lenses: 35, 55, 90, 135, 200 at least, and I
> am in Durham NC.
>
> I no longer use this setup, having aged up and out not
> so gracefully, and I'd like to find some good options for
> disposing of it all together.
>
> Have no idea what it's worth nor how to dispose of it.
>
> Any ideas or suggestions, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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