Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-09 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 8, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Walt wrote:

 On 1/9/2013 1:26 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
 Seriously, with the potential of a sunset like that, a free hour, and 
 Natural bridges 10 minutes away, cliche or not, I'd have been a fool not to 
 see what I could do with it.
 
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 I completely agree, Larry. Your little corner of the world is absolutely 
 lousy with photo-fodder -- cliche or otherwise.

It's really easy to fall into the trap of there's nothing interesting here to 
photograph just because you're so used to everything that it just doesn't seem 
special.  I suspect that just about anybody in the PDML could visit another 
member's home town, and find weeks worth of things to photograph.  Except for 
your neighborhood. There's nothing interesting to photograph there.  You might 
as well invest in a macro lens and start doing a macro study of the hair in the 
armpits of drunks.


 
 Hardly a day goes by when I don't think about the time I spent there, and 
 what I would've done differently if I'd known then what I know now. I took a 
 lot of photos while I was there, but I can't get past the feeling that, from 
 a technical standpoint at least, I really squandered the opportunity.

You had fun, you got some good pictures, and you've got a better idea of what 
to do the next time you head out.  You also have more incentive to come out to 
the left coast again.

Maybe I'll host my own version of Grandfather mountain. Invite people out to 
the family estate sometime for cranky bastard valley or something.


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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-09 Thread Walt

On 1/9/2013 3:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

You might as well invest in a macro lens and start doing a macro study of the 
hair in the armpits of drunks.
You do realize this is going to result in me actually posting an image 
of a drunk's hairy armpit at some point in the future, don't you?



You had fun, you got some good pictures, and you've got a better idea of what 
to do the next time you head out.  You also have more incentive to come out to 
the left coast again.
That's very true, though I don't really need any more incentive to head 
out that way again. Filching your 77/1.8 is all the incentive I need.


Maybe I'll host my own version of Grandfather mountain. Invite people out to the family 
estate sometime for cranky bastard valley or something.
If it happened here, we'd have a choice between Possum Trot and Monkey's 
Eyebrow.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possum_Trot,_Kentucky

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkeys_Eyebrow,_Kentucky

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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Both are said to be unincorporated communities.  That is kind of
like a ghost town that never did exist.  Or, they are simply something
someone wrote on the map, like Here be dragons.   In any event, I
don't think that Monkeys Eyebrow is any funnier a name than Paducah.

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 1/9/2013 3:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 You might as well invest in a macro lens and start doing a macro study of
 the hair in the armpits of drunks.

 You do realize this is going to result in me actually posting an image of
 a drunk's hairy armpit at some point in the future, don't you?

 You had fun, you got some good pictures, and you've got a better idea of
 what to do the next time you head out.  You also have more incentive to come
 out to the left coast again.

 That's very true, though I don't really need any more incentive to head
 out that way again. Filching your 77/1.8 is all the incentive I need.


 Maybe I'll host my own version of Grandfather mountain. Invite people out
 to the family estate sometime for cranky bastard valley or something.

 If it happened here, we'd have a choice between Possum Trot and Monkey's
 Eyebrow.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possum_Trot,_Kentucky

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkeys_Eyebrow,_Kentucky

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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-09 Thread Eactivist
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360040157/ is a lovely shot. I  was 
there this past year, but sans sunset, so really I got  nothing.

Nice!

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated  1/8/2013 1:49:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
l...@red4est.com writes:
I had  some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a nice 
sunset, and I  was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I got there, I 
found out that  I wasn't the only one thinking along those  lines:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

If you are in  the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole  set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

The  photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I told 
him,  he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a picture of 
the  landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a story.

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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-09 Thread Walt

On 1/9/2013 12:18 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

In any event, I
don't think that Monkeys Eyebrow is any funnier a name than Paducah.
Well, it's no Coxsackie. But at least it's managed to avoid producing an 
eponymous virus.


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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-09 Thread Eactivist
Serious suggestion, Larry (to follow). When you  first started showing here 
I suggested off list that you edit your photos. You  commented about it on 
list and everyone essentially jumped all over me (although  you did not name 
me, thank you for that.)

Take a class, with a critical  teacher, like an advanced photography class. 
From live feedback from students  AND teacher you should be able to get 
enough feedback to get a better feeling  for what are your best/better photos. 
What compositional elements make up your  better photos. You don't have to 
agree with all their assessments, but you will  still get a feeling.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated  1/8/2013 1:14:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
l...@red4est.com writes:
 but  you need to edit the set yourself.

There's the rub, They all look to be  of about equal quality to me, I tried 
to narrow it down to the best one or two  of each type. I don't see what 
makes one better than the others.  Which is  why I so much appreciate more 
detailed critique. A few of the photos have  people, or birds, doing something, 
which I think makes the photo more  interesting, it's not just of a pretty 
place, but it's of something happening at  a pretty place. That's why I 
posted 022 as the PESO, because I found it amusing  to see all these other guys 
out there taking pretty much the same photo as each  other, which was pretty 
much the same photo as 006 or 151.


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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-09 Thread Bruce Walker
I agree with you Marnie, but classes aren't my thing. My approach:

- study -- *carefully* -- a ton of other photographers work,
especially published masters, and anything in genres I'm particularly
interested in.

- look at other artist's work too. From the Old Masters to Picasso
etc. These folks know/knew composition. And light, of course.

- read (just about) every online tutorial on composition you can find.

I have a standing order at my local used book store to hold every book
on photography that comes through so I can have a look. I've got a
steadily growing library of inspirational photography and art, and art
and drawing theory.


And a really critical thing that follows after select/edit:

DO NOT SHOW ANYTHING ONLINE OR OFF BUT YOUR VERY BEST WORK. Just doing
that alone fools people into thinking you're a good photographer. :-)



On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:32 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Serious suggestion, Larry (to follow). When you  first started showing here
 I suggested off list that you edit your photos. You  commented about it on
 list and everyone essentially jumped all over me (although  you did not name
 me, thank you for that.)

 Take a class, with a critical  teacher, like an advanced photography class.
 From live feedback from students  AND teacher you should be able to get
 enough feedback to get a better feeling  for what are your best/better photos.
 What compositional elements make up your  better photos. You don't have to
 agree with all their assessments, but you will  still get a feeling.

 HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)

 In a message dated  1/8/2013 1:14:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
 l...@red4est.com writes:
 but  you need to edit the set yourself.

 There's the rub, They all look to be  of about equal quality to me, I tried
 to narrow it down to the best one or two  of each type. I don't see what
 makes one better than the others.  Which is  why I so much appreciate more
 detailed critique. A few of the photos have  people, or birds, doing 
 something,
 which I think makes the photo more  interesting, it's not just of a pretty
 place, but it's of something happening at  a pretty place. That's why I
 posted 022 as the PESO, because I found it amusing  to see all these other 
 guys
 out there taking pretty much the same photo as each  other, which was pretty
 much the same photo as 006 or 151.


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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-09 Thread Eactivist
However, that I can't agree with. If I,  personally, did that, I would 
rarely show anything. Heh. Sometimes I just show  things I *like* but don't 
think are great. In other words, too high a standard,  Bruce. But I agree show 
one's better stuff. In a photo outing if I have 3-4 I  think are pretty darn 
good I am doing well. Countless others never get shown to  anyone.

Marnie :-)

In a message dated 1/9/2013 11:41:59 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
DO NOT SHOW ANYTHING  ONLINE OR OFF BUT YOUR VERY BEST WORK. Just doing
that alone fools people  into thinking you're a good photographer. :-)  


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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-09 Thread Bruce Walker
Very Best is a moving standard, Marnie. Strictly speaking that just
means that as you get better you should cull your older work that no
longer makes the grade. So by definition you'll always have
*something* to show. But your public gallery should keep on improving.


On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:48 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 However, that I can't agree with. If I,  personally, did that, I would
 rarely show anything. Heh. Sometimes I just show  things I *like* but don't
 think are great. In other words, too high a standard,  Bruce. But I agree show
 one's better stuff. In a photo outing if I have 3-4 I  think are pretty darn
 good I am doing well. Countless others never get shown to  anyone.

 Marnie :-)

 In a message dated 1/9/2013 11:41:59 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
 bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
 DO NOT SHOW ANYTHING  ONLINE OR OFF BUT YOUR VERY BEST WORK. Just doing
 that alone fools people  into thinking you're a good photographer. :-)


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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think 207 and 151 are worthy shots, but you need to edit the set yourself. 
Landscapes don't change. Photographing them once again isn't necessarily wrong 
or cliched, particularly when the photographer brings his own vision to bear on 
the scene. Both of these shots are interesting and well done, with 207 being 
the best in my opinion.

On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:49 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a nice 
 sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I got there, I 
 found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along those lines:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/
 
 If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole set:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/
 
 The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I told him, 
 he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a picture of the 
 landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a story.
 
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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele

don't apologize for pretty sunset photos :-)

ann

On 1/8/2013 04:49, Larry Colen wrote:

I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a nice sunset, 
and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I got there, I found out 
that I wasn't the only one thinking along those lines:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I told him, 
he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a picture of the 
landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a story.

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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
I see Scott also bought the wrong tripod - too short!


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From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
Subject: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a nice sunset, 
and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I got there, I found out 
that I wasn't the only one thinking along those lines:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I told him, 
he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a picture of the 
landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a story.

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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 8, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 don't apologize for pretty sunset photos :-)

Thanks Ann.


 
 ann
 
 On 1/8/2013 04:49, Larry Colen wrote:
 I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a nice 
 sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I got there, I 
 found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along those lines:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/
 
 If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole set:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/
 
 The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I told 
 him, he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a picture of 
 the landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a story.
 
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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 8, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

 I see Scott also bought the wrong tripod - too short!

At least he brought one.  The reason he kept picking it up was because a wave 
would come in and threaten to tip things over.


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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 8, 2013, at 6:36 AM, luiz felipe wrote:

 Larry, I like that set. one particular thing I'd try would be some 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360035843/in/set-72157632470459006/ 
 with long exposure - assuming the wind would allow it, never been there... 
 yet. Sure it's been done a lot, but I'd try it myself, (over) exposure on the 
 limit.

My friend Candice also asked about long exposure shots.Funny thing is that 
they don't do lots for me.

 
 How's that place at night?

It can be a lot of fun at night. The park closes at sunset, and I used to go 
down there at night fairly often about twenty years ago with a girlfriend. We 
didn't bring a camera though.

 I remember some photos you posted from a beach at night but can't place them 
 - there's a lot of coastline near you.
Funny how that happens when you live 10-15 km from the ocean.

 

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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:34 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I think 207 and 151 are worthy shots,

Thanks.  Though 006 is the one with the cormy.

 but you need to edit the set yourself.

There's the rub, They all look to be of about equal quality to me, I tried to 
narrow it down to the best one or two of each type. I don't see what makes one 
better than the others.  Which is why I so much appreciate more detailed 
critique. A few of the photos have people, or birds, doing something, which I 
think makes the photo more interesting, it's not just of a pretty place, but 
it's of something happening at a pretty place. That's why I posted 022 as the 
PESO, because I found it amusing to see all these other guys out there taking 
pretty much the same photo as each other, which was pretty much the same photo 
as 006 or 151.   

 Landscapes don't change. Photographing them once again isn't necessarily 
 wrong or cliched, particularly when the photographer brings his own vision to 
 bear on the scene.

I joke a lot about cliche, but I am not ashamed to occasionally indulge in it.  
It is cliche for a reason. There are some photographers, like my mom, who 
seemed to only photograph sunsets at the beach.  

 Both of these shots are interesting and well done, with 207 being the best in 
 my opinion.

Thank you again.

 
 On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:49 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a nice 
 sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I got there, I 
 found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along those lines:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/
 
 If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole set:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/
 
 The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I told 
 him, he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a picture of 
 the landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a story.
 
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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread kwaller

I don't see what makes one better than the others


The 2 Paul called out, and I agree with him, are images in which there is no 
question in what you want the viewer to look at, the subject is isolated, 
simplified and defined. In some of the others, you've included other things 
that are distracting, IMO, and are calling for my eyes to pay attention to 
them.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Subject: Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach




On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:34 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


I think 207 and 151 are worthy shots,


Thanks.  Though 006 is the one with the cormy.


but you need to edit the set yourself.


There's the rub, They all look to be of about equal quality to me, I tried 
to narrow it down to the best one or two of each type. I don't see what 
makes one better than the others.  Which is why I so much appreciate more 
detailed critique. A few of the photos have people, or birds, doing 
something, which I think makes the photo more interesting, it's not just 
of a pretty place, but it's of something happening at a pretty place. 
That's why I posted 022 as the PESO, because I found it amusing to see all 
these other guys out there taking pretty much the same photo as each 
other, which was pretty much the same photo as 006 or 151.


Landscapes don't change. Photographing them once again isn't necessarily 
wrong or cliched, particularly when the photographer brings his own 
vision to bear on the scene.


I joke a lot about cliche, but I am not ashamed to occasionally indulge in 
it.  It is cliche for a reason. There are some photographers, like my mom, 
who seemed to only photograph sunsets at the beach.


Both of these shots are interesting and well done, with 207 being the 
best in my opinion.


Thank you again.



On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:49 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a nice 
sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I got there, 
I found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along those lines:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I told 
him, he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a picture 
of the landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a story.


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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Two shots with the guy, the tripod and the bridge alike rock rock :-). 
Cliche or not, these are fine photographs and I enjoyed looked at these.


On 1/8/2013 11:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a
nice sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I
got there, I found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along
those lines: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole
set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I
told him, he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a
picture of the landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a
story.

-- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est








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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Boris Liberman

Obviously I enjoyed lookING at these...

/kicks himself on the head/

On 1/9/2013 6:53 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Two shots with the guy, the tripod and the bridge alike rock rock :-).
Cliche or not, these are fine photographs and I enjoyed looked at these.

On 1/8/2013 11:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a
nice sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I
got there, I found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along
those lines: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole
set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I
told him, he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a
picture of the landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a
story.

-- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est










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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread lrc
Lo  problemo.
:-)

Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

Obviously I enjoyed lookING at these...

/kicks himself on the head/

On 1/9/2013 6:53 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
 Two shots with the guy, the tripod and the bridge alike rock rock
:-).
 Cliche or not, these are fine photographs and I enjoyed looked at
these.

 On 1/8/2013 11:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a
 nice sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I
 got there, I found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along
 those lines: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

 If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole
 set:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

 The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I
 told him, he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a
 picture of the landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell
a
 story.

 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est







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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Walt
If you can kick yourself in the head and speak/write better English than 
Jackie Chan, you have a future in Hollywood, Boris!


-- Walt

On 1/8/2013 10:54 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Obviously I enjoyed lookING at these...

/kicks himself on the head/

On 1/9/2013 6:53 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Two shots with the guy, the tripod and the bridge alike rock rock :-).
Cliche or not, these are fine photographs and I enjoyed looked at these.

On 1/8/2013 11:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a
nice sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges. When I
got there, I found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along
those lines: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole
set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott. As I
told him, he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a
picture of the landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a
story.

-- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est













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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Boris Liberman

I don't have a past such as his though... And present is also different...

Normally I much rather keep my head un-kicked as it is the head I am 
using the most for work and other such stuff :-).


On 1/9/2013 7:03 AM, Walt wrote:

If you can kick yourself in the head and speak/write better English than
Jackie Chan, you have a future in Hollywood, Boris!

-- Walt

On 1/8/2013 10:54 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Obviously I enjoyed lookING at these...

/kicks himself on the head/

On 1/9/2013 6:53 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Two shots with the guy, the tripod and the bridge alike rock rock :-).
Cliche or not, these are fine photographs and I enjoyed looked at these.

On 1/8/2013 11:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a
nice sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges. When I
got there, I found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along
those lines: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole
set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott. As I
told him, he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a
picture of the landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a
story.

-- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
















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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Walt

I know what you mean. I use mine for opening beer bottles.

-- Walt

On 1/8/2013 11:08 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
I don't have a past such as his though... And present is also 
different...


Normally I much rather keep my head un-kicked as it is the head I am 
using the most for work and other such stuff :-).


On 1/9/2013 7:03 AM, Walt wrote:

If you can kick yourself in the head and speak/write better English than
Jackie Chan, you have a future in Hollywood, Boris!

-- Walt

On 1/8/2013 10:54 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Obviously I enjoyed lookING at these...

/kicks himself on the head/

On 1/9/2013 6:53 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Two shots with the guy, the tripod and the bridge alike rock rock :-).
Cliche or not, these are fine photographs and I enjoyed looked at 
these.


On 1/8/2013 11:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a
nice sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges. When I
got there, I found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along
those lines: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole
set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott. As I
told him, he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a
picture of the landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a
story.

-- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est



















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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Boris Liberman

I used mine as tea container...

On 1/9/2013 7:11 AM, Walt wrote:

I know what you mean. I use mine for opening beer bottles.

-- Walt

On 1/8/2013 11:08 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

I don't have a past such as his though... And present is also
different...

Normally I much rather keep my head un-kicked as it is the head I am
using the most for work and other such stuff :-).

On 1/9/2013 7:03 AM, Walt wrote:

If you can kick yourself in the head and speak/write better English than
Jackie Chan, you have a future in Hollywood, Boris!

-- Walt

On 1/8/2013 10:54 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Obviously I enjoyed lookING at these...

/kicks himself on the head/

On 1/9/2013 6:53 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Two shots with the guy, the tripod and the bridge alike rock rock :-).
Cliche or not, these are fine photographs and I enjoyed looked at
these.

On 1/8/2013 11:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a
nice sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges. When I
got there, I found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along
those lines: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole
set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott. As I
told him, he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a
picture of the landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a
story.

-- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est






















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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 January 2013 20:49, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a nice 
 sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I got there, I 
 found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along those lines:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

 If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole set:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

 The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I told him, 
 he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a picture of the 
 landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a story.

You got a great set there Larry! (and I'm talking images). cliche'd or
not (and I really dislike the cliche notion) you obviously had a
lovely painterly sky to work with and created a nice honest set of
images, I enjoyed them anyhow ;)

Cheers,

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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

 On 8 January 2013 20:49, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a nice 
 sunset, and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I got there, I 
 found out that I wasn't the only one thinking along those lines:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/
 
 If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole set:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/
 
 The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I told 
 him, he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a picture of 
 the landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a story.
 
 You got a great set there Larry! (and I'm talking images). cliche'd or
 not (and I really dislike the cliche notion) you obviously had a
 lovely painterly sky to work with and created a nice honest set of
 images, I enjoyed them anyhow ;)

Thanks Rob and Boris.

Seriously, with the potential of a sunset like that, a free hour, and Natural 
bridges 10 minutes away, cliche or not, I'd have been a fool not to see what I 
could do with it.

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Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





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Re: PESO, I've got some time to kill, I'll head to the beach

2013-01-08 Thread Walt

On 1/9/2013 1:26 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:


On 8 January 2013 20:49, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

I had some free time this afternoon, it looked like it would be a nice sunset, 
and I was a mile or two from Natural Bridges.  When I got there, I found out 
that I wasn't the only one thinking along those lines:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8360036091/

If you are in the mood for a huge pile of cliche, here's the whole set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632470459006/

The photographer in several of them was some guy named Scott.  As I told him, 
he made a great compositional balance.  Rather than just a picture of the 
landscape, I felt having him in there helped to tell a story.

You got a great set there Larry! (and I'm talking images). cliche'd or
not (and I really dislike the cliche notion) you obviously had a
lovely painterly sky to work with and created a nice honest set of
images, I enjoyed them anyhow ;)

Thanks Rob and Boris.

Seriously, with the potential of a sunset like that, a free hour, and Natural 
bridges 10 minutes away, cliche or not, I'd have been a fool not to see what I 
could do with it.

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
I completely agree, Larry. Your little corner of the world is absolutely 
lousy with photo-fodder -- cliche or otherwise.


Hardly a day goes by when I don't think about the time I spent there, 
and what I would've done differently if I'd known then what I know now. 
I took a lot of photos while I was there, but I can't get past the 
feeling that, from a technical standpoint at least, I really squandered 
the opportunity.


-- Walt

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