Re: PESO: Big Bird

2021-06-21 Thread Alan C 
Larry, I try to capture a scene or incident without worrying too much 
about technical perfection. If I did, I would simply "miss" so many 
opportunities. It distresses me that I mostly seem to be so far from the 
action but that's just how it is. The Sigma does very well when the 
subject is closer. I had a Makinon 500mm f8 Mirror Lens from film days 
which worked OK but prefer.the versatility of a Zoom. I gave the Makinon 
to my daughter which she uses successfully on her C*non with an adapter.


Alan C

On 20-Jun-21 09:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

That really is pushing the limits, but still a very cool photo.



On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Alan C  wrote:

Just for interest, a heavily cropped shot of a Saddlebilled Stork with Impalas 
on the W bank of Sable Dam, Kruger Park, about 300m distant. Adult Saddlebilled 
Storks are about 1.5m tall with a wingspan of 2.5m. This is probably a bit 
beyond the useful limit of a Sigma 170-500 DG on a K5. A D-FA 150-450 with a 
1.4x TC (630mm) or an FA 600 would do better but such beasts are way beyond my 
budget.

I think that there are supposed to be some relatively inexpensive 1000mm manual 
focus reflector lenses.  I wonder if enough of your photography is such that 
you could set one of those up on a tripod.  It looks like that in a lot of your 
photos the animals aren’t moving around all that much, even if they are at a 
great distance.



https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/51258634663/

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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2021-06-20 Thread Alan C 

Aish!

Alan C

On 20-Jun-21 09:56 PM, Bill wrote:

Well that ruins a perfectly good joke.

bill

On Sun., Jun. 20, 2021, 5:36 a.m. Alan C,  wrote:


Bill, those are actually the equivalent of ankles.

Here is a shot of an equally large squatting Goliath Heron which shows
what I mean:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/47936742056/

And a closer shot of a Saddlebill:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/50326412492/


Alan C


On 20-Jun-21 10:26 AM, Bill wrote:

I've wondered for quite a while what chairs would look like if our knees
bent backwards like that.

bill

On Sat., Jun. 19, 2021, 11:27 p.m. Alan C,  wrote:


Just for interest, a heavily cropped shot of a Saddlebilled Stork with
Impalas on the W bank of Sable Dam, Kruger Park, about 300m distant.
Adult Saddlebilled Storks are about 1.5m tall with a wingspan of 2.5m.
This is probably a bit beyond the useful limit of a Sigma 170-500 DG on
a K5. A D-FA 150-450 with a 1.4x TC (630mm) or an FA 600 would do better
but such beasts are way beyond my budget.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/51258634663/

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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2021-06-20 Thread Bill 
Well that ruins a perfectly good joke.

bill

On Sun., Jun. 20, 2021, 5:36 a.m. Alan C,  wrote:

> Bill, those are actually the equivalent of ankles.
>
> Here is a shot of an equally large squatting Goliath Heron which shows
> what I mean:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/47936742056/
>
> And a closer shot of a Saddlebill:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/50326412492/
>
>
> Alan C
>
>
> On 20-Jun-21 10:26 AM, Bill wrote:
> > I've wondered for quite a while what chairs would look like if our knees
> > bent backwards like that.
> >
> > bill
> >
> > On Sat., Jun. 19, 2021, 11:27 p.m. Alan C,  wrote:
> >
> >> Just for interest, a heavily cropped shot of a Saddlebilled Stork with
> >> Impalas on the W bank of Sable Dam, Kruger Park, about 300m distant.
> >> Adult Saddlebilled Storks are about 1.5m tall with a wingspan of 2.5m.
> >> This is probably a bit beyond the useful limit of a Sigma 170-500 DG on
> >> a K5. A D-FA 150-450 with a 1.4x TC (630mm) or an FA 600 would do better
> >> but such beasts are way beyond my budget.
> >>
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/51258634663/
> >>
> >> Alan C
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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2021-06-20 Thread Larry Colen 
That really is pushing the limits, but still a very cool photo.


> On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Just for interest, a heavily cropped shot of a Saddlebilled Stork with 
> Impalas on the W bank of Sable Dam, Kruger Park, about 300m distant. Adult 
> Saddlebilled Storks are about 1.5m tall with a wingspan of 2.5m. This is 
> probably a bit beyond the useful limit of a Sigma 170-500 DG on a K5. A D-FA 
> 150-450 with a 1.4x TC (630mm) or an FA 600 would do better but such beasts 
> are way beyond my budget.

I think that there are supposed to be some relatively inexpensive 1000mm manual 
focus reflector lenses.  I wonder if enough of your photography is such that 
you could set one of those up on a tripod.  It looks like that in a lot of your 
photos the animals aren’t moving around all that much, even if they are at a 
great distance.


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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2021-06-20 Thread Alan C 

Thanks, Dan.

I managed to get several shots of it feeding in the shallows but the 
distance spoils them somewhat.


Alan C

On 20-Jun-21 08:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Great scene!

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 1:27 AM Alan C  wrote:


Just for interest, a heavily cropped shot of a Saddlebilled Stork with
Impalas on the W bank of Sable Dam, Kruger Park, about 300m distant.
Adult Saddlebilled Storks are about 1.5m tall with a wingspan of 2.5m.
This is probably a bit beyond the useful limit of a Sigma 170-500 DG on
a K5. A D-FA 150-450 with a 1.4x TC (630mm) or an FA 600 would do better
but such beasts are way beyond my budget.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/51258634663/

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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2021-06-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
Great scene!

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 1:27 AM Alan C  wrote:

> Just for interest, a heavily cropped shot of a Saddlebilled Stork with
> Impalas on the W bank of Sable Dam, Kruger Park, about 300m distant.
> Adult Saddlebilled Storks are about 1.5m tall with a wingspan of 2.5m.
> This is probably a bit beyond the useful limit of a Sigma 170-500 DG on
> a K5. A D-FA 150-450 with a 1.4x TC (630mm) or an FA 600 would do better
> but such beasts are way beyond my budget.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/51258634663/
>
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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2021-06-20 Thread Alan C 

Bill, those are actually the equivalent of ankles.

Here is a shot of an equally large squatting Goliath Heron which shows 
what I mean:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/47936742056/

And a closer shot of a Saddlebill:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/50326412492/


Alan C


On 20-Jun-21 10:26 AM, Bill wrote:

I've wondered for quite a while what chairs would look like if our knees
bent backwards like that.

bill

On Sat., Jun. 19, 2021, 11:27 p.m. Alan C,  wrote:


Just for interest, a heavily cropped shot of a Saddlebilled Stork with
Impalas on the W bank of Sable Dam, Kruger Park, about 300m distant.
Adult Saddlebilled Storks are about 1.5m tall with a wingspan of 2.5m.
This is probably a bit beyond the useful limit of a Sigma 170-500 DG on
a K5. A D-FA 150-450 with a 1.4x TC (630mm) or an FA 600 would do better
but such beasts are way beyond my budget.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/51258634663/

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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2021-06-20 Thread Bill 
I've wondered for quite a while what chairs would look like if our knees
bent backwards like that.

bill

On Sat., Jun. 19, 2021, 11:27 p.m. Alan C,  wrote:

> Just for interest, a heavily cropped shot of a Saddlebilled Stork with
> Impalas on the W bank of Sable Dam, Kruger Park, about 300m distant.
> Adult Saddlebilled Storks are about 1.5m tall with a wingspan of 2.5m.
> This is probably a bit beyond the useful limit of a Sigma 170-500 DG on
> a K5. A D-FA 150-450 with a 1.4x TC (630mm) or an FA 600 would do better
> but such beasts are way beyond my budget.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/51258634663/
>
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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2010-06-28 Thread Christian Skofteland 
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:31:13AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 Although we have a few pairs of nesting eagles in my area, they are
 rather shy, and their nesting areas are well protected.  We also have
 a flock of wild turkeys, but this is the largest bird that we
 ordinarily see up close and personal.  They are not shy at all.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192183size=md
 
 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, Questions and Abuse all are welcome.
 
 Dan

Very graphic shot and great detail and color.  I love watching Turkey vultures 
soar.  They are just so effortless with hardly a wing beat.  Then you see them 
on the ground for what they are and they seem much less elegant.  Beautiful 
birds nonetheless.  Well to me all birds are beautiful.  Except house sparrows!

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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2010-06-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
Thanks, Christian.  Yes, house sparrows can be annoying little guys.
It's amazing how they have become adapted to urban environments.  I
don't think I have been anywhere that I haven't seen a few.

Still, they are prettier than turkey vultures.

Dan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Christian Skofteland
pterali...@aim.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:31:13AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 Although we have a few pairs of nesting eagles in my area, they are
 rather shy, and their nesting areas are well protected.  We also have
 a flock of wild turkeys, but this is the largest bird that we
 ordinarily see up close and personal.  They are not shy at all.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192183size=md

 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, Questions and Abuse all are welcome.

 Dan

 Very graphic shot and great detail and color.  I love watching Turkey 
 vultures soar.  They are just so effortless with hardly a wing beat.  Then 
 you see them on the ground for what they are and they seem much less elegant. 
  Beautiful birds nonetheless.  Well to me all birds are beautiful.  Except 
 house sparrows!

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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2010-06-28 Thread Christian Skofteland 
Check out this thread i started on Naturescapes a while back about house 
sparrows:

http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=37t=19hilit=house+sparrow+bluebird

which has a link to this NPR (national public radio) story:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9963159

Christian

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On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:01:10AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 Thanks, Christian.  Yes, house sparrows can be annoying little guys.
 It's amazing how they have become adapted to urban environments.  I
 don't think I have been anywhere that I haven't seen a few.
 
 Still, they are prettier than turkey vultures.
 
 Dan
 
 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Christian Skofteland
 pterali...@aim.com wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:31:13AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
  Although we have a few pairs of nesting eagles in my area, they are
  rather shy, and their nesting areas are well protected.  We also have
  a flock of wild turkeys, but this is the largest bird that we
  ordinarily see up close and personal.  They are not shy at all.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192183size=md
 
  Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, Questions and Abuse all are welcome.
 
  Dan
 
  Very graphic shot and great detail and color.  I love watching Turkey 
  vultures soar.  They are just so effortless with hardly a wing beat.  Then 
  you see them on the ground for what they are and they seem much less 
  elegant.  Beautiful birds nonetheless.  Well to me all birds are beautiful. 
   Except house sparrows!
 
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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2010-06-28 Thread Toine 
In my part of the world house sparrows populations are declining. The
reasons is not enough nesting places. Our house sparrows like to build
nest under old roof tiles and other parts of old building. New
buildings don't offer any nesting opportunities and now you can buy
special roof tiles for house sparrow nests.
The dutch people love their house sparrows!

Toine

On 28 June 2010 19:49, Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com wrote:
 Check out this thread i started on Naturescapes a while back about house 
 sparrows:

 http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=37t=19hilit=house+sparrow+bluebird

 which has a link to this NPR (national public radio) story:

 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9963159

 Christian

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 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:01:10AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 Thanks, Christian.  Yes, house sparrows can be annoying little guys.
 It's amazing how they have become adapted to urban environments.  I
 don't think I have been anywhere that I haven't seen a few.

 Still, they are prettier than turkey vultures.

 Dan

 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Christian Skofteland
 pterali...@aim.com wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:31:13AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
  Although we have a few pairs of nesting eagles in my area, they are
  rather shy, and their nesting areas are well protected.  We also have
  a flock of wild turkeys, but this is the largest bird that we
  ordinarily see up close and personal.  They are not shy at all.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192183size=md
 
  Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, Questions and Abuse all are welcome.
 
  Dan
 
  Very graphic shot and great detail and color.  I love watching Turkey 
  vultures soar.  They are just so effortless with hardly a wing beat.  Then 
  you see them on the ground for what they are and they seem much less 
  elegant.  Beautiful birds nonetheless.  Well to me all birds are 
  beautiful.  Except house sparrows!
 
  --
 
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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2010-06-28 Thread Toine 
Something like this:

http://hobby.blogo.nl/2007/01/21/de-huismus-met-dakpan-redden/

On 28 June 2010 20:16, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 In my part of the world house sparrows populations are declining. The
 reasons is not enough nesting places. Our house sparrows like to build
 nest under old roof tiles and other parts of old building. New
 buildings don't offer any nesting opportunities and now you can buy
 special roof tiles for house sparrow nests.
 The dutch people love their house sparrows!

 Toine

 On 28 June 2010 19:49, Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com wrote:
 Check out this thread i started on Naturescapes a while back about house 
 sparrows:

 http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=37t=19hilit=house+sparrow+bluebird

 which has a link to this NPR (national public radio) story:

 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9963159

 Christian

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 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:01:10AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 Thanks, Christian.  Yes, house sparrows can be annoying little guys.
 It's amazing how they have become adapted to urban environments.  I
 don't think I have been anywhere that I haven't seen a few.

 Still, they are prettier than turkey vultures.

 Dan

 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Christian Skofteland
 pterali...@aim.com wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:31:13AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
  Although we have a few pairs of nesting eagles in my area, they are
  rather shy, and their nesting areas are well protected.  We also have
  a flock of wild turkeys, but this is the largest bird that we
  ordinarily see up close and personal.  They are not shy at all.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192183size=md
 
  Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, Questions and Abuse all are welcome.
 
  Dan
 
  Very graphic shot and great detail and color.  I love watching Turkey 
  vultures soar.  They are just so effortless with hardly a wing beat.  
  Then you see them on the ground for what they are and they seem much less 
  elegant.  Beautiful birds nonetheless.  Well to me all birds are 
  beautiful.  Except house sparrows!
 
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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2010-06-28 Thread Christian Skofteland 
Obviously, house sparrows are native in Europe and have always been in normal 
competition with other native species.  they are non-native to the US and, due 
to their aggressive behavior, outcompete our native species for nesting sites. 
Thus our native bluebird and other cavity nesting bird populations have been in 
decline for a very long time. 

Christian.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 08:16:58PM +0200, Toine wrote:
 In my part of the world house sparrows populations are declining. The
 reasons is not enough nesting places. Our house sparrows like to build
 nest under old roof tiles and other parts of old building. New
 buildings don't offer any nesting opportunities and now you can buy
 special roof tiles for house sparrow nests.
 The dutch people love their house sparrows!
 
 Toine
 
 On 28 June 2010 19:49, Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com wrote:
  Check out this thread i started on Naturescapes a while back about house 
  sparrows:
 
  http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=37t=19hilit=house+sparrow+bluebird
 
  which has a link to this NPR (national public radio) story:
 
  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9963159
 
  Christian
 
  In-Reply-To: aanlktilcosxbwa5oq_dx7qjoyp4ail0pntz6ow5dl...@mail.gmail.com
 
  On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:01:10AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
  Thanks, Christian.  Yes, house sparrows can be annoying little guys.
  It's amazing how they have become adapted to urban environments.  I
  don't think I have been anywhere that I haven't seen a few.
 
  Still, they are prettier than turkey vultures.
 
  Dan
 
  On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Christian Skofteland
  pterali...@aim.com wrote:
   On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:31:13AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
   Although we have a few pairs of nesting eagles in my area, they are
   rather shy, and their nesting areas are well protected.  We also have
   a flock of wild turkeys, but this is the largest bird that we
   ordinarily see up close and personal.  They are not shy at all.
  
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192183size=md
  
   Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, Questions and Abuse all are welcome.
  
   Dan
  
   Very graphic shot and great detail and color.  I love watching Turkey 
   vultures soar.  They are just so effortless with hardly a wing beat.  
   Then you see them on the ground for what they are and they seem much 
   less elegant.  Beautiful birds nonetheless.  Well to me all birds are 
   beautiful.  Except house sparrows!
  
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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2010-06-28 Thread Toine 
Yes that's what I learned today (about the sparrow and the bluebird).
Sad to see our sparrow in decline (it's sooner or later a protected
species) and yours hunted down. I think it's an interesting bird. If
it would be non native and competing with bluebirds...

Toine

On 28 June 2010 20:43, Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com wrote:
 Obviously, house sparrows are native in Europe and have always been in 
 normal competition with other native species.  they are non-native to the 
 US and, due to their aggressive behavior, outcompete our native species for 
 nesting sites. Thus our native bluebird and other cavity nesting bird 
 populations have been in decline for a very long time.

 Christian.

 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 08:16:58PM +0200, Toine wrote:
 In my part of the world house sparrows populations are declining. The
 reasons is not enough nesting places. Our house sparrows like to build
 nest under old roof tiles and other parts of old building. New
 buildings don't offer any nesting opportunities and now you can buy
 special roof tiles for house sparrow nests.
 The dutch people love their house sparrows!

 Toine

 On 28 June 2010 19:49, Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com wrote:
  Check out this thread i started on Naturescapes a while back about house 
  sparrows:
 
  http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=37t=19hilit=house+sparrow+bluebird
 
  which has a link to this NPR (national public radio) story:
 
  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9963159
 
  Christian
 
  In-Reply-To: aanlktilcosxbwa5oq_dx7qjoyp4ail0pntz6ow5dl...@mail.gmail.com
 
  On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:01:10AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
  Thanks, Christian.  Yes, house sparrows can be annoying little guys.
  It's amazing how they have become adapted to urban environments.  I
  don't think I have been anywhere that I haven't seen a few.
 
  Still, they are prettier than turkey vultures.
 
  Dan
 
  On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Christian Skofteland
  pterali...@aim.com wrote:
   On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:31:13AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
   Although we have a few pairs of nesting eagles in my area, they are
   rather shy, and their nesting areas are well protected.  We also have
   a flock of wild turkeys, but this is the largest bird that we
   ordinarily see up close and personal.  They are not shy at all.
  
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192183size=md
  
   Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, Questions and Abuse all are welcome.
  
   Dan
  
   Very graphic shot and great detail and color.  I love watching Turkey 
   vultures soar.  They are just so effortless with hardly a wing beat.  
   Then you see them on the ground for what they are and they seem much 
   less elegant.  Beautiful birds nonetheless.  Well to me all birds are 
   beautiful.  Except house sparrows!
  
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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2010-06-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
You need some of my turkey vultures to scare away those little sparrows.

Dan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 Yes that's what I learned today (about the sparrow and the bluebird).
 Sad to see our sparrow in decline (it's sooner or later a protected
 species) and yours hunted down. I think it's an interesting bird. If
 it would be non native and competing with bluebirds...

 Toine

 On 28 June 2010 20:43, Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com wrote:
 Obviously, house sparrows are native in Europe and have always been in 
 normal competition with other native species.  they are non-native to the 
 US and, due to their aggressive behavior, outcompete our native species for 
 nesting sites. Thus our native bluebird and other cavity nesting bird 
 populations have been in decline for a very long time.

 Christian.

 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 08:16:58PM +0200, Toine wrote:
 In my part of the world house sparrows populations are declining. The
 reasons is not enough nesting places. Our house sparrows like to build
 nest under old roof tiles and other parts of old building. New
 buildings don't offer any nesting opportunities and now you can buy
 special roof tiles for house sparrow nests.
 The dutch people love their house sparrows!

 Toine

 On 28 June 2010 19:49, Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com wrote:
  Check out this thread i started on Naturescapes a while back about 
  house sparrows:
 
  http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=37t=19hilit=house+sparrow+bluebird
 
  which has a link to this NPR (national public radio) story:
 
  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9963159
 
  Christian
 
  In-Reply-To: 
  aanlktilcosxbwa5oq_dx7qjoyp4ail0pntz6ow5dl...@mail.gmail.com
 
  On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:01:10AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
  Thanks, Christian.  Yes, house sparrows can be annoying little guys.
  It's amazing how they have become adapted to urban environments.  I
  don't think I have been anywhere that I haven't seen a few.
 
  Still, they are prettier than turkey vultures.
 
  Dan
 
  On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Christian Skofteland
  pterali...@aim.com wrote:
   On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:31:13AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
   Although we have a few pairs of nesting eagles in my area, they are
   rather shy, and their nesting areas are well protected.  We also have
   a flock of wild turkeys, but this is the largest bird that we
   ordinarily see up close and personal.  They are not shy at all.
  
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192183size=md
  
   Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, Questions and Abuse all are 
   welcome.
  
   Dan
  
   Very graphic shot and great detail and color.  I love watching Turkey 
   vultures soar.  They are just so effortless with hardly a wing beat.  
   Then you see them on the ground for what they are and they seem much 
   less elegant.  Beautiful birds nonetheless.  Well to me all birds are 
   beautiful.  Except house sparrows!
  
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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2010-06-28 Thread Rick Womer 
Excellent shot: very sharp, very graphic, well composed.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO: Big Bird
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 9:31 AM
 Although we have a few pairs of
 nesting eagles in my area, they are
 rather shy, and their nesting areas are well
 protected.  We also have
 a flock of wild turkeys, but this is the largest bird that
 we
 ordinarily see up close and personal.  They are not
 shy at all.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192183size=md
 
 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, Questions and Abuse all
 are welcome.
 
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Re: PESO: Big Bird

2010-06-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
Thanks, R

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Excellent shot: very sharp, very graphic, well composed.
ick.

Dan
 Rick

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 --- On Mon, 6/28/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO: Big Bird
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 9:31 AM
 Although we have a few pairs of
 nesting eagles in my area, they are
 rather shy, and their nesting areas are well
 protected.  We also have
 a flock of wild turkeys, but this is the largest bird that
 we
 ordinarily see up close and personal.  They are not
 shy at all.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192183size=md

 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, Questions and Abuse all
 are welcome.

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