Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-12 Thread AlunFoto
I think you've nailed him, Rob. :-)

Jostein

2007/8/10, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 10/08/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Okay so I got a cancelled meeting @ work and allowed 15 minutes for a 
  search.
 
  The very first mention of PESO in the archives is from 12. May 2004,
  and refers to a reply by Frank to a PESO posted by David Nelson. The
  original post by David is not in the archives. IIRC, we had some
  serious trouble with the archiving that spring, so the database at
  mail-archive.com may very well be incomplete for the period in
  question.
 
  http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg179489.html
 
  So either David is the culprit, or the origin is lost from the archive. :-)

 Maybe holes in the archive (from my personal archives):

From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:PAW? more like PESO
Date sent:  Mon, 3 May 2004 21:39:03 -0400

 Picture Every So Often is more my speed.  Getting a frame I want to show you
 guys every WEEK? Not likely.

 http://community.webshots.com/photo/93489626/140051795etXCuT

 Catching rain drops (I know, you can't see any...) last Saturday at the
 Walter Mitty Historic Sports Car Races.

 Cory
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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/10/2007 2:19:48 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PAW? more like PESO
Date sent:Mon, 3  May 2004 21:39:03 -0400

Picture Every So Often is more my speed.   Getting a frame I want to show you
guys every WEEK? Not  likely.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93489626/140051795etXCuT

Catching  rain drops (I know, you can't see any...) last Saturday at the
Walter Mitty  Historic Sports Car Races.

Cory
only shot a little since it was  raining.

=
Whoa, Cory coined it. Or, Shel introduced the  nomenclature and Cory was the 
first to use it. But that matches my memory --  that someone said they didn't 
want to do PAWs that PESOs were more like  it.

Hey, Cory, ya' famous.

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-11 Thread syb vis
Hey, thanks!
Too bad that the first PESO is no longer traceable!

Syb

2007/8/11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 In a message dated 8/10/2007 2:19:48 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PAW? more like PESO
 Date sent:Mon, 3  May 2004 21:39:03 -0400

 Picture Every So Often is more my speed.   Getting a frame I want to show you
 guys every WEEK? Not  likely.

 http://community.webshots.com/photo/93489626/140051795etXCuT

 Catching  rain drops (I know, you can't see any...) last Saturday at the
 Walter Mitty  Historic Sports Car Races.

 Cory
 only shot a little since it was  raining.

 =
 Whoa, Cory coined it. Or, Shel introduced the  nomenclature and Cory was the
 first to use it. But that matches my memory --  that someone said they didn't
 want to do PAWs that PESOs were more like  it.

 Hey, Cory, ya' famous.

 Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-10 Thread AlunFoto
Okay so I got a cancelled meeting @ work and allowed 15 minutes for a search.

The very first mention of PESO in the archives is from 12. May 2004,
and refers to a reply by Frank to a PESO posted by David Nelson. The
original post by David is not in the archives. IIRC, we had some
serious trouble with the archiving that spring, so the database at
mail-archive.com may very well be incomplete for the period in
question.

http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg179489.html

So either David is the culprit, or the origin is lost from the archive. :-)

Jostein

2007/8/9, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Too much trouble for me (searching  archives). Shel could have introduced
 PESOs at the same time he introduced PAWs.  But I have a vague memory
 someone on list came up with. OTOH, I could be totally  wrong. It could have
 been GESO that was coined by someone on list.


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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 10/08/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay so I got a cancelled meeting @ work and allowed 15 minutes for a search.

 The very first mention of PESO in the archives is from 12. May 2004,
 and refers to a reply by Frank to a PESO posted by David Nelson. The
 original post by David is not in the archives. IIRC, we had some
 serious trouble with the archiving that spring, so the database at
 mail-archive.com may very well be incomplete for the period in
 question.

 http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg179489.html

 So either David is the culprit, or the origin is lost from the archive. :-)

Maybe holes in the archive (from my personal archives):

From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:PAW? more like PESO
Date sent:  Mon, 3 May 2004 21:39:03 -0400

Picture Every So Often is more my speed.  Getting a frame I want to show you
guys every WEEK? Not likely.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93489626/140051795etXCuT

Catching rain drops (I know, you can't see any...) last Saturday at the
Walter Mitty Historic Sports Car Races.

Cory
only shot a little since it was raining.


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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-10 Thread John Sessoms
From:
David Savage
 On 8/8/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  Good stuff Bob. I think I like the colour version more (witch is strange 
  for me)
 
 Ugh! That should of course read which, not witch.
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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-10 Thread syb vis
Starting to feel a new cup is needed for some guys here...

Syb

2007/8/11, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 From:
 David Savage
  On 8/8/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Good stuff Bob. I think I like the colour version more (witch is strange 
   for me)
 
  Ugh! That should of course read which, not witch.
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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-09 Thread AlunFoto
IIRC, the PESO term emerged around May 2004. Just before Adelheid and
I met up at Newark Airport for our Eastern USA Grand Tour.

But as much I would like to take credit for coining it, I'm pretty
sure I didn't...

If Shel wasn't the culprit, I'd wager a bet that it was some other
North American. Preferrably one with a weak spot for acronyms. Collin
Brendemuehl, maybe? Tom Cakalic? William Robb?

Anyone with time to spare could look in the archives, I guess... :-)

Jostein


2007/8/8, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 In a message dated 8/8/2007 6:44:13 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I think PESO has been current  on a couple of the Leica groups for some
 time, (though it's possible that  Jostein coined it anew here).


 
 Shel Belinkoff  introduced PAWs to this list, taking it from the Leica
 list/group. I am not sure  who coined PESOs, might have been Jostein (I 
 thought it
 was frank, actually).  Anyway, someone said they didn't want to do PAWs (one a
 week) so they would do  PESOs (every so often).

 And most took it up. PAWs are too much work. :-)  It's quite possible that
 PESO went from here back to them, rather than the other  way around.

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/9/2007 1:59:40 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
IIRC, the PESO term emerged around  May 2004. Just before Adelheid and
I met up at Newark Airport for our Eastern  USA Grand Tour.

But as much I would like to take credit for coining it,  I'm pretty
sure I didn't...

If Shel wasn't the culprit, I'd wager a  bet that it was some other
North American. Preferrably one with a weak spot  for acronyms. Collin
Brendemuehl, maybe? Tom Cakalic? William  Robb?

Anyone with time to spare could look in the archives, I guess...  :-)

Jostein


==
Too much trouble for me (searching  archives). Shel could have introduced 
PESOs at the same time he introduced PAWs.  But I have a vague memory someone 
on 
list came up with. OTOH, I could be totally  wrong. It could have been GESO 
that was coined by someone on list.

Boy,  sometimes memories hoover, huh?

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-08 Thread AlunFoto
Nice shot, Dave. :-)

Jostein

2007/8/7, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 ...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo

 G'day All,

 Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd add one to the mix:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm


 Cheers,

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-08 Thread David Savage
Thanks Jostein

Cheers,

Dave

On 8/8/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice shot, Dave. :-)

 Jostein

 2007/8/7, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-08 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote:

PESO (Picture Every So Often) is an acronym used in the subject line
so that people who are so inclined (or not) can view (or skip)
messages.

Wasn't PESO a term invented by Jostein? I'm pretty sure he's the 
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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-08 Thread David Savage
On 8/8/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Savage wrote:

 PESO (Picture Every So Often) is an acronym used in the subject line
 so that people who are so inclined (or not) can view (or skip)
 messages.

 Wasn't PESO a term invented by Jostein? I'm pretty sure he's the
 first person I ever was aware of using it.

I'm not exactly sure who coined the term.

I think it was being used when I first stumbled into this place. :-)

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I think PESO has been current on a couple of the Leica groups for some 
time, (though it's possible that Jostein coined it anew here).

Mark Roberts wrote:
 David Savage wrote:

   
 PESO (Picture Every So Often) is an acronym used in the subject line
 so that people who are so inclined (or not) can view (or skip)
 messages.
 

 Wasn't PESO a term invented by Jostein? I'm pretty sure he's the 
 first person I ever was aware of using it.


   


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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-08 Thread AlunFoto
I think it was Shel Belinkoff who brought the term with him from a Leica list.

Jostein

2007/8/8, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 David Savage wrote:

 PESO (Picture Every So Often) is an acronym used in the subject line
 so that people who are so inclined (or not) can view (or skip)
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 Wasn't PESO a term invented by Jostein? I'm pretty sure he's the
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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/7/2007 9:36:33 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OT: Off Topic (used for messages  that have nothing to do with  Pentax)

Cheers,

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And often nothing  to do with cameras, lenses, and photography either.

But maybe a whole lot  to do with:  beer, wine, coffee, motorcycles, bikes, 
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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/8/2007 6:44:13 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think PESO has been current  on a couple of the Leica groups for some 
time, (though it's possible that  Jostein coined it anew here).



Shel Belinkoff  introduced PAWs to this list, taking it from the Leica 
list/group. I am not sure  who coined PESOs, might have been Jostein (I thought 
it 
was frank, actually).  Anyway, someone said they didn't want to do PAWs (one a 
week) so they would do  PESOs (every so often).

And most took it up. PAWs are too much work. :-)  It's quite possible that 
PESO went from here back to them, rather than the other  way around. 

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote:

...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo

G'day All,

Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd add one to the 
mix:

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
The PUG should have a coffee cup theme...

Mark Roberts wrote:
 David Savage wrote:

   
 ...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo

 G'day All,

 Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd add one to the 
 
 mix:
   
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm
 

 Nice one! You've out-Franked Frank!


   


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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread syb vis
Okay, so  I understand the wonderful acronym YACC. But what's the
history and meaning of PESO?

Syb
(NYSLOTDL -- not yet so long on this discussion list--)

2007/8/7, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 The PUG should have a coffee cup theme...

 Mark Roberts wrote:
  David Savage wrote:
 
 
  ...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo
 
  G'day All,
 
  Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd add one to the
 
  mix:
 
  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm
 
 
  Nice one! You've out-Franked Frank!
 
 
 


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RE: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread Bob W

  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm
  
 
  Nice one! You've out-Franked Frank!
 
 

Shouldn't that be outfrunk?

Here's my contribution:

http://www.web-options.com/cafe.jpg

http://www.web-options.com/cafebw.jpg

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 Subject: Re: PESO: YACCP...
 
 The PUG should have a coffee cup theme...
 
 Mark Roberts wrote:
  David Savage wrote:
 

  ...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo
 
  G'day All,
 
  Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd 
 add one to the 
  
  mix:

 
 
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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread David J Brooks
To quote Twin Peaks, that dam fine coffee(cup)

I like this one Dave.

Syb. Peso is Picture every so often

Dave

On 8/7/07, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, so  I understand the wonderful acronym YACC. But what's the
 history and meaning of PESO?

 Syb
 (NYSLOTDL -- not yet so long on this discussion list--)

 2007/8/7, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  The PUG should have a coffee cup theme...
 
  Mark Roberts wrote:
   David Savage wrote:
  
  
   ...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo
  
   G'day All,
  
   Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd add one to the
  
   mix:
  
   http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm
  
  
   Nice one! You've out-Franked Frank!
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread Frits Wüthrich
http://www.coffeecup.com/

On Tuesday 07 August 2007 20:04, Bob W wrote:
   http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm
  
   Nice one! You've out-Franked Frank!

 Shouldn't that be outfrunk?

 Here's my contribution:

 http://www.web-options.com/cafe.jpg

 http://www.web-options.com/cafebw.jpg

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  Subject: Re: PESO: YACCP...
 
  The PUG should have a coffee cup theme...
 
  Mark Roberts wrote:
   David Savage wrote:
   ...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo
  
   G'day All,
  
   Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd
 
  add one to the
 
   mix:
 
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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread syb vis
Where's the coffee?


2007/8/7, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://www.coffeecup.com/

 On Tuesday 07 August 2007 20:04, Bob W wrote:
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm
   
Nice one! You've out-Franked Frank!
 
  Shouldn't that be outfrunk?
 
  Here's my contribution:
 
  http://www.web-options.com/cafe.jpg
 
  http://www.web-options.com/cafebw.jpg
 
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   The PUG should have a coffee cup theme...
  
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David Savage wrote:
...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo
   
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Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd
  
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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread Brian Walters
Nice, but did you photograph that just before it slid off the table or did the 
photographer have just one more glass of wine than was appropriate?


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Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo
 
 G'day All,
 
 Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd add one to
 the mix:
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm
 
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread David Savage
On 8/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Savage wrote:

 ...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo
 
 G'day All,
 
 Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd add one to the
 mix:
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm

 Nice one! You've out-Franked Frank!

Woo Hoo.

:-)

Thanks Mark

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread David Savage
Now there's an idea.

It would probably get a good turn out. :-)

Cheers,

Dave

On 8/7/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The PUG should have a coffee cup theme...

 Mark Roberts wrote:
  David Savage wrote:
 
 
  ...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo
 
  G'day All,
 
  Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd add one to the
 
  mix:
 
  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm
 
 
  Nice one! You've out-Franked Frank!

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread David Savage
On 8/8/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm
  
  
   Nice one! You've out-Franked Frank!
  
  

 Shouldn't that be outfrunk?

 Here's my contribution:

 http://www.web-options.com/cafe.jpg

 http://www.web-options.com/cafebw.jpg

Good stuff Bob. I think I like the colour version more (witch is strange for me)

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread David Savage
Thank you Mr Brooks.

:-)

Cheers,

Dave

On 8/8/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To quote Twin Peaks, that dam fine coffee(cup)

 I like this one Dave.

David Savage wrote:
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread David Savage
PESO (Picture Every So Often) is an acronym used in the subject line
so that people who are so inclined (or not) can view (or skip)
messages.

Some other common ones you'll see here

GESO: Gallery Every So Often
PAW: Picture/Photo A Week
OT: Off Topic (used for messages that have nothing to do with Pentax)

Cheers,

Dave


On 8/7/07, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, so  I understand the wonderful acronym YACC. But what's the
 history and meaning of PESO?

 Syb
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   David Savage wrote:
   http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread David Savage
Har!

IIRC I only had one beer with lunch.

The angle has more to do with the photographer not using the viewfinder :-)

Cheers,

Dave

On 8/8/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice, but did you photograph that just before it slid off the table or did 
 the photographer have just one more glass of wine than was appropriate?


  Cheers

 Brian

 Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread David Savage
And funnily enough, that's what I use (poorly) to put my web pages together.

CHeers,

Dave

On 8/8/07, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.coffeecup.com/

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Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread David Savage
On 8/8/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good stuff Bob. I think I like the colour version more (witch is strange for 
 me)

Ugh! That should of course read which, not witch.

Cheers,

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