Re: PESO - Pair of Mittens

2005-07-18 Thread Jack Davis
0321, by far. A bit too bad the tree stump shows
having been cut. You, however, did all it was possible
to do with the scene. Excellent composition and DOF.
Don't like the peek-a-boo limb in upper right of 0318.
Needs to be connected.

Jack


--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, so it is not really a matched pair, but the same
 mitten twice.
 These were both taken near the same time.  I'm
 trying to decide which
 I like better.  It would be nice to get opinions on
 what you like, if
 any.
 

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0318.htm

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0321.htm
 
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 Bruce
 
 



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Re: PESO - Pair of Mittens

2005-07-18 Thread John Forbes
I'm for No 2, too.  I like the way that there appears to be a succession  
of simialr outcrops, standing guard over something to the left.


John

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:22:25 +0100, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



#2 gets my vote.  The framing with the overhanging
branch in #1 doesn't work for me--it somehow clashes
with the spacious feel of the rest of the image.

Rick

--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ok, so it is not really a matched pair, but the same
mitten twice.
These were both taken near the same time.  I'm
trying to decide which
I like better.  It would be nice to get opinions on
what you like, if
any.



http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0318.htm



http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0321.htm


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Re: PESO - Pair of Mittens

2005-07-18 Thread P. J. Alling
I like the second one it has a more dynamic composition. 


Bruce Dayton wrote:


Ok, so it is not really a matched pair, but the same mitten twice.
These were both taken near the same time.  I'm trying to decide which
I like better.  It would be nice to get opinions on what you like, if
any.

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0318.htm
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0321.htm

 




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Re: PESO - Pair of Mittens

2005-07-18 Thread Herb Chong
i don't like the shadow and the tree branch above on the first one. did you 
use a polarizer on either of these shots? the vegetation looks like it is 
reflecting the sky.


Herb
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From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:35 PM
Subject: PESO - Pair of Mittens



Ok, so it is not really a matched pair, but the same mitten twice.
These were both taken near the same time.  I'm trying to decide which
I like better.  It would be nice to get opinions on what you like, if
any.





Re: PESO - Pair of Mittens

2005-07-18 Thread frank theriault
On 7/18/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, so it is not really a matched pair, but the same mitten twice.
 These were both taken near the same time.  I'm trying to decide which
 I like better.  It would be nice to get opinions on what you like, if
 any.
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0318.htm
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0321.htm
 

#2.  I like the other monuments in the distance.  Gives a better sense
of the isolation of the place for me.  I also like the stump in the
foreground, being almost the same apparent size as the mitten, even
though we know it isn't.  Almost kind of funny.  g

I usually like such things, but the overhanging branch in the
foreground doesn't work so well for me in #1.


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Re: PESO - Pair of Mittens

2005-07-18 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well, so far, it is certainly unanimous that the second is better than
the first.  Shooting info on the second one:
Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, handheld, polarizer
ISO 200, 1/90 sec @ f/13, 26mm focal length
date/time: 6/16/2005 @ 2:16:09 pm

I do appreciate the feedback.  The polarizer was set to show as much
separation of cloud and sky as possible.  I don't know if that would
have an opposite effect on the plants, but I would guess that they
would gain the same benefit.  Perhaps it would have looked much worse
without the polarization?

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Best regards,
Bruce


Monday, July 18, 2005, 4:19:13 PM, you wrote:

HC i don't like the shadow and the tree branch above on the first one. did you
HC use a polarizer on either of these shots? the vegetation looks like it is
HC reflecting the sky.

HC Herb
HC - Original Message - 
HC From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HC To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
HC Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:35 PM
HC Subject: PESO - Pair of Mittens


 Ok, so it is not really a matched pair, but the same mitten twice.
 These were both taken near the same time.  I'm trying to decide which
 I like better.  It would be nice to get opinions on what you like, if
 any.






Re: PESO - Pair of Mittens

2005-07-18 Thread Kenneth Waller
The first has too much going on, distracting, a snap to record you being
there.
The second is more interesting, but I believe a lower perspective, with the
foreground stump 'competing' with the mittens would be a stronger image.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message -
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:35 PM
Subject: PESO - Pair of Mittens


 Ok, so it is not really a matched pair, but the same mitten twice.
 These were both taken near the same time.  I'm trying to decide which
 I like better.  It would be nice to get opinions on what you like, if
 any.

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0318.htm
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0321.htm

 --
 Bruce




Re: PESO - Pair of Mittens

2005-07-18 Thread Herb Chong
it could be that the polarizer was not having much effect at all on the 
plants. it looks like the sun was behind you and moderately high in the sky.


Herb
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From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Herb Chong pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Pair of Mittens



I do appreciate the feedback.  The polarizer was set to show as much
separation of cloud and sky as possible.  I don't know if that would
have an opposite effect on the plants, but I would guess that they
would gain the same benefit.  Perhaps it would have looked much worse
without the polarization?





Re: PESO - Pair of Mittens

2005-07-18 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


Ok, so it is not really a matched pair, but the same mitten twice.
These were both taken near the same time.  I'm trying to decide which
I like better.  It would be nice to get opinions on what you like, if
any.

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0318.htm
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0321.htm


Kind of strange. You see, I've read the comments (this time at least) 
before posting mine. I never was there and to me the first shot actually 
looks interesting. The second one is more classic of course - the 
vertical close-far composition. I guess the shadow does distract, so 
with great reluctance I'd vote for second one...


Boris



Re: PESO - Pair of Mittens

2005-07-18 Thread Joseph Tainter

Re:

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0318.htm
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0321.htm

The juniper trees in the foregrounds are probably 300 to 400 years old. 
It's hard to find a sizeable one in Navajo country that doesn't have axe 
marks in it.


Heading to the same general area tomorrow or Wed.

Both are nice, Bruce, but something about the second one appeals to me more.

Joe