Re: Post firmware control changes are interesting
I meant to say I shoot mainly in TAV mode. This works for me, because I'm frequently moving from outdoor to inddoor, and TAV changes the sensitivity correspondingly. I'll still change my shutter speed and stop, but I don't have to think a lot about sensitivity. I think it's all a matter of what one becomes accustomed to. I would like to shoot Av with a wheel for EV comp. I haven't even looked into that yet, but I could see how that would work well with my outdoor shooting style. Paul On Jan 28, 2007, at 6:49 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: P: EV comp front, P-shift rear Tv: EV comp front, Shutter rear Av: EV comp front, Aperture rear Since these are my most used auto exposure modes, I want them all to operate the same way. The idea is direct access to EV comp on the front, the priority control on the rear. I have not yet gotten comfortable with hyper program. >>> >>> Those settings make a lot of sense for someone coming from a *ist >>> DS. >>> >>> It's a little harder if you are used to working with the *ist D. >>> While I like the idea of having Program Shift and Exposure >>> Compensation >>> directly available I'm not sure I'd like to give up Hyper Program >>> for that. >> >> Agreed. I also find that I shoot quite often in TVs mode, so I want >> to keep my wheels set for aperture and shutter speed. > > The setup is a close match to what worked on the Canon 10D, Konica > Minolta A2, and Sony R1 ... all of them two-wheel control cameras > with program shift. The best part is EV Compensation without a > chorded button press over the DS interface ... I change EV comp more > often than aperture in Av mode, and shift only rarely in P mode, > normally I'd put that on my thumb but the DS habit of changing > aperture or shutter time with the thumb is still with me since I have > the DS bodies. > > I'm in Av or P mode most of the time now. I only rarely use Tv mode, > for one reason or another ... mostly when working with a long lens > which is rare in itself. > > G > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Post firmware control changes are interesting
>>>P: EV comp front, P-shift rear >>>Tv: EV comp front, Shutter rear >>>Av: EV comp front, Aperture rear >>> >>> Since these are my most used auto exposure modes, I want them all to >>> operate the same way. The idea is direct access to EV comp on the >>> front, the priority control on the rear. I have not yet gotten >>> comfortable with hyper program. >> >> Those settings make a lot of sense for someone coming from a *ist DS. >> >> It's a little harder if you are used to working with the *ist D. >> While I like the idea of having Program Shift and Exposure >> Compensation >> directly available I'm not sure I'd like to give up Hyper Program >> for that. > > Agreed. I also find that I shoot quite often in TVs mode, so I want > to keep my wheels set for aperture and shutter speed. The setup is a close match to what worked on the Canon 10D, Konica Minolta A2, and Sony R1 ... all of them two-wheel control cameras with program shift. The best part is EV Compensation without a chorded button press over the DS interface ... I change EV comp more often than aperture in Av mode, and shift only rarely in P mode, normally I'd put that on my thumb but the DS habit of changing aperture or shutter time with the thumb is still with me since I have the DS bodies. I'm in Av or P mode most of the time now. I only rarely use Tv mode, for one reason or another ... mostly when working with a long lens which is rare in itself. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Post firmware control changes are interesting
Agreed. I also find that I shoot quite often in TVs mode, so I want to keep my wheels set for aperture and shutter speed. Paul On Jan 28, 2007, at 6:11 PM, John Francis wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 07:03:39AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> The way I set mine up is: >> >>P: EV comp front, P-shift rear >>Tv: EV comp front, Shutter rear >>Av: EV comp front, Aperture rear >> >> Since these are my most used auto exposure modes, I want them all to >> operate the same way. The idea is direct access to EV comp on the >> front, the priority control on the rear. I have not yet gotten >> comfortable with hyper program. > > Those settings make a lot of sense for someone coming from a *ist DS. > > It's a little harder if you are used to working with the *ist D. > While I like the idea of having Program Shift and Exposure > Compensation > directly available I'm not sure I'd like to give up Hyper Program > for that. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Post firmware control changes are interesting
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 07:03:39AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > The way I set mine up is: > >P: EV comp front, P-shift rear >Tv: EV comp front, Shutter rear >Av: EV comp front, Aperture rear > > Since these are my most used auto exposure modes, I want them all to > operate the same way. The idea is direct access to EV comp on the > front, the priority control on the rear. I have not yet gotten > comfortable with hyper program. Those settings make a lot of sense for someone coming from a *ist DS. It's a little harder if you are used to working with the *ist D. While I like the idea of having Program Shift and Exposure Compensation directly available I'm not sure I'd like to give up Hyper Program for that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Post firmware control changes are interesting
The way I set mine up is: P: EV comp front, P-shift rear Tv: EV comp front, Shutter rear Av: EV comp front, Aperture rear Since these are my most used auto exposure modes, I want them all to operate the same way. The idea is direct access to EV comp on the front, the priority control on the rear. I have not yet gotten comfortable with hyper program. Sv: P-shift front, ISO rear TAv: Shutter front, aperture rear EV comp in both of these is button plus front wheel. In all cases I now can use OK button plus front wheel for ISO changes. in Av, Tv and P modes, I'm finding I use Auto ISO set to the range 100-400 most of the time ... Ok button plus Green button will restore the Auto ISO setting if you have used OK plus front wheel to shift it. I'll tweak these settings as I see what confuses my fingers, but overall I'm finding it good. G On Jan 24, 2007, at 12:37 AM, Thibouille wrote: > Well, even before the update, I was not sure how to se the wheels on > my K10D, now I'm even more confused... but honestly happy to have the > choices I have: kudos Pentax ! > > I have the habit (from my (P)Z-1) to have front wheel=speed, back > wheel=aperture. > The problem is, if I assign either EV comp or ISO I have a problem > because the EV comp/ISO will be in the case of AV on the front wheel > and in TV on the back wheel. > I fear I will mix everything and have hard time to work like that. > > So I dunno ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Post firmware control changes are interesting
On 24/01/07, Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, even before the update, I was not sure how to se the wheels on > my K10D, now I'm even more confused... but honestly happy to have the > choices I have: kudos Pentax ! > > I have the habit (from my (P)Z-1) to have front wheel=speed, back > wheel=aperture. > The problem is, if I assign either EV comp or ISO I have a problem > because the EV comp/ISO will be in the case of AV on the front wheel > and in TV on the back wheel. > I fear I will mix everything and have hard time to work like that. > > So I dunno ;) Yes, it's now almost to the point of too much choice :-) http://blogs.business2.com/business2blog/2006/03/the_downside_of.html -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Post firmware control changes are interesting
Well, even before the update, I was not sure how to se the wheels on my K10D, now I'm even more confused... but honestly happy to have the choices I have: kudos Pentax ! I have the habit (from my (P)Z-1) to have front wheel=speed, back wheel=aperture. The problem is, if I assign either EV comp or ISO I have a problem because the EV comp/ISO will be in the case of AV on the front wheel and in TV on the back wheel. I fear I will mix everything and have hard time to work like that. So I dunno ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Post firmware control changes are interesting
On 24/01/07, George Sinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been playing with the new control options after installing the > firmware upgrade. I assigned ISO to the unused dials in Av and Tv > mode. It's interesting, watching the shutter speed, aperture and ISO > displays in the viewfinder while adjusting the dials. > > This certainly changes things, doesn't it? It feels like a different, > in some ways more responsive camera. > > I'm interested to hear your reactions after you get a chance to > experiment a bit. I've set up my K10D similarly and now there are only a couple of exposure modes I'll really ever need to use. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
