Re: Re: Portrait software
- Original Message - From: "Jens" Subject: Re: Re: Portrait software Hello William Over here, it's about the same. A few companies are dominating the business. Still I think it's a free market. I can try to get a piece of the cake, if I want. I am current trying too start/run a business doing photography for planning purposes - www.planfoto.dk. I know thee'll be times with very few or no orders, so I'm looking for supplementary sources of income. Portraits could be one of them. School portraits doesn't hjave to make you rich, but if you have enough orders, the salery is quite good. One school class = 1-2 weeks salery. It's like photographing in an assembly line. A frind of mine once said: You can make a living from just about anything, if you organize it well. I guess this goes for school photography too. I actually know a photographer, who became quite whealty this way. It certainly can be done. The important thing is consistency. Set our lights up one way and don't EVER adjust their position. It's different for grad photos, which I actually like doing. You have a little more leeway, but still, keep your ratios reasonable. Yousuf Karsch doesn't sell to grandmothers. >> PS: Many photographing companies offer such packages for schools >> etc. >> The price is often apr. 50 USD for on package wieh a number of >> portraits and one group portrait. >> >> If marketed right this can be a brilliant source of income. If I >> could fill my order book, I could make one months wages in just >> one >> week. One school class is enough for one week salery. >> >> This is worth taking into consideration, if you wnat to make a >> living >> from photography...:-) > > Unfortunately, around where I live (Southeastern US - North > Carolina) > there's one company that already has a lock on the business; already > has > contracts with most of the school systems. > > Another good line is CHURCHES - get the pastor on the hook with a > really > LOW PRICE for a group portrait of the congregation then sell all the > > individual families portrait packages > > They also have the contract for the "Photo Studio" at most WalMart, > Target > & J.C. Penny stores. > > They don't hire photographers. > > They take kids who want to be photographers, give them a quickie > course - > Camera here, this light here, that light there, switches just so ... > this > is how the background is hung - and pay them $11.00 an hour + > "reimbursement" for expenses. > > The reimbursement = $.35 a mile for the wear & tear and fuel for > their > personal vehicle + minimal per diem. > > After a while the kids realize that when you add in all the unpaid > travel > time they're making less than they could flippin' burgers at > McDonalds, so > the company has to hire another batch of new kids. > > Still, I'd take $11.00 an hour if they'd hire me for one of the > nearby > J.C. Penny or Target studios, but I ain't going out on the road for > that. > > Moot anyway - they don't hire photographers. Photographers are too hard to train. They always think they have a better way (which they do), and they tend to be loose cannons in the studio. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Portrait software
Hello William Over here, it's about the same. A few companies are dominating the business. Still I think it's a free market. I can try to get a piece of the cake, if I want. I am current trying too start/run a business doing photography for planning purposes - www.planfoto.dk. I know thee'll be times with very few or no orders, so I'm looking for supplementary sources of income. Portraits could be one of them. School portraits doesn't hjave to make you rich, but if you have enough orders, the salery is quite good. One school class = 1-2 weeks salery. It's like photographing in an assembly line. A frind of mine once said: You can make a living from just about anything, if you organize it well. I guess this goes for school photography too. I actually know a photographer, who became quite whealty this way. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 2, 2008 17:34 "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "John Sessoms" > Subject: RE: Portrait software > > > > From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> PS: Many photographing companies offer such packages for schools > >> etc. > >> The price is often apr. 50 USD for on package wieh a number of > >> portraits and one group portrait. > >> > >> If marketed right this can be a brilliant source of income. If I > >> could fill my order book, I could make one months wages in just > >> one > >> week. One school class is enough for one week salery. > >> > >> This is worth taking into consideration, if you wnat to make a > >> living > >> from photography...:-) > > > > Unfortunately, around where I live (Southeastern US - North > > Carolina) > > there's one company that already has a lock on the business; already > > has > > contracts with most of the school systems. > > > > Another good line is CHURCHES - get the pastor on the hook with a > > really > > LOW PRICE for a group portrait of the congregation then sell all the > > > > individual families portrait packages > > > > They also have the contract for the "Photo Studio" at most WalMart, > > Target > > & J.C. Penny stores. > > > > They don't hire photographers. > > > > They take kids who want to be photographers, give them a quickie > > course - > > Camera here, this light here, that light there, switches just so ... > > this > > is how the background is hung - and pay them $11.00 an hour + > > "reimbursement" for expenses. > > > > The reimbursement = $.35 a mile for the wear & tear and fuel for > > their > > personal vehicle + minimal per diem. > > > > After a while the kids realize that when you add in all the unpaid > > travel > > time they're making less than they could flippin' burgers at > > McDonalds, so > > the company has to hire another batch of new kids. > > > > Still, I'd take $11.00 an hour if they'd hire me for one of the > > nearby > > J.C. Penny or Target studios, but I ain't going out on the road for > > that. > > > > Moot anyway - they don't hire photographers. > > Tell them you use Pentax. They'll hire you then. > Seriously, these places aren't in the business of churning out high > art, > they really are there for the people who are in the market for what > they are > selling. > In order for them to be able to do what they do, every studio needs to > be as > close to the same as possible with regards to lighing intensity and > ratio. > This is the photographic equivalent of flipping burgers at McDonald's, > and > the reasons for them doing what they do are exactly the same as the > reasons > for why McD does it the way they do. > It's all about consistency of product. > > William Robb > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: RE: Portrait software
From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello again I should also mention, that I found software, that can make templates for printing and publishing images in a package. It's called PrintSix. It's not very expensive (60-160 USD) and comes in different versions. http://www.sixdigitalphotos.com/templates.htm Unfortunately I don't think this software can save your work as one JPG or TIF file for later use. I don't know about saving the template as a single image, but it will only work with jpegs. You have to dig down a bit through the site to find it, but they do have an email contact address, so you could ask them if you can save the finished layout as a new image: http://www.sixdigitalphotos.com/email.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RE: Portrait software
From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks again, John, Cotty and others. I played around with the Pickture Package thing in Photoshop CS (7) and found out: 1. I can make a Picture Pacage from all images in an image folder automatically. 2. I can change/customize the layout I wnat to use (combination of image sizes in each package). This is actually what I want. And I think it works great. My only concern is, that the final package sizes seem to be unchangeable (?). That's a pity, since I want to use the very same paper sizes, that my photo dealer offers. I'll get my new EPSON printer next week (just a small, cheep one). Perhaps I can find the rigt sizes for this. The Photoshop tutorial that led me to Picture Packages was on how to create additional custom packages if the default ones wouldn't fit what you needed. The package layouts are stored in text files. It explained the notation Photoshop uses to guide a layout and where to save the ones you write. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: RE: Portrait software
Hello again I should also mention, that I found software, that can make templates for printing and publishing images in a package. It's called PrintSix. It's not very expensive (60-160 USD) and comes in different versions. http://www.sixdigitalphotos.com/templates.htm Unfortunately I don't think this software can save your work as one JPG or TIF file for later use. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 2, 2008 07:23 "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks again, John, Cotty and others. > I played around with the Pickture Package thing in Photoshop CS (7) > and found out: > 1. I can make a Picture Pacage from all images in an image folder > automatically. > 2. I can change/customize the layout I wnat to use (combination of > image sizes in each package). > This is actually what I want. And I think it works great. > My only concern is, that the final package sizes seem to be > unchangeable (?). > That's a pity, since I want to use the very same paper sizes, that my > photo dealer offers. I'll get my new EPSON printer next week (just a > small, cheep one). Perhaps I can find the rigt sizes for this. > > Regards > Jens > > > Thanks John, Great tip. > I used your search and found this: > http://www.pixalo.com/articles/Using-automated-picture-package-in-Phot > oshop.php > I'm sure there's a lot more somewhere. > :-) > Regards > Jens > > -- > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > > On Nov 1, 2008 23:18 "John Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Hello List I sometimes do portraits of children. I really would > > > like > > > to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an > > > enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just > > > like > > > the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if > > > such > > > software available somewhere, please? > > > > I'm pretty sure you can set up an action in PhotoShop that will do > > that; > > replicate the photo several times on a single sheet. I had a class > > on > > how to do it once, but I've forgotten how since I haven't used it. > > > > In fact, I did a quick web search and found a tutorial that pointed > > me > > toward Photoshop>File>Automate>Picture Package and there's > > pre-defined > > packages in there. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and > > follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RE: Portrait software
Thanks again, John, Cotty and others. I played around with the Pickture Package thing in Photoshop CS (7) and found out: 1. I can make a Picture Pacage from all images in an image folder automatically. 2. I can change/customize the layout I wnat to use (combination of image sizes in each package). This is actually what I want. And I think it works great. My only concern is, that the final package sizes seem to be unchangeable (?). That's a pity, since I want to use the very same paper sizes, that my photo dealer offers. I'll get my new EPSON printer next week (just a small, cheep one). Perhaps I can find the rigt sizes for this. Regards Jens Thanks John, Great tip. I used your search and found this: http://www.pixalo.com/articles/Using-automated-picture-package-in-Photoshop.php I'm sure there's a lot more somewhere. :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 1, 2008 23:18 "John Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello List I sometimes do portraits of children. I really would like > > to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an > > enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just > > like > > the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if such > > software available somewhere, please? > > I'm pretty sure you can set up an action in PhotoShop that will do > that; > replicate the photo several times on a single sheet. I had a class on > how to do it once, but I've forgotten how since I haven't used it. > > In fact, I did a quick web search and found a tutorial that pointed me > toward Photoshop>File>Automate>Picture Package and there's pre-defined > packages in there. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RE: Portrait software
Thanks John, Great tip. I used your search and found this: http://www.pixalo.com/articles/Using-automated-picture-package-in-Photoshop.php I'm sure there's a lot more somewhere. :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 1, 2008 23:18 "John Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello List I sometimes do portraits of children. I really would like > > to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an > > enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just > > like > > the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if such > > software available somewhere, please? > > I'm pretty sure you can set up an action in PhotoShop that will do > that; > replicate the photo several times on a single sheet. I had a class on > how to do it once, but I've forgotten how since I haven't used it. > > In fact, I did a quick web search and found a tutorial that pointed me > toward Photoshop>File>Automate>Picture Package and there's pre-defined > packages in there. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Portrait software
Thanks Godfrey I'm afraid I use Capture One in stead of Lightroom :-( Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 1, 2008 15:14 "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lightroom 2's Print module does this well. > Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:09 AM, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello List > > I sometimes do portraits of children. > > I really would like to have software, that can outomatically create > > > > a sheet /an enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different > > sizes. Just like the one you get from school photograohers. > > Does anyone know if such software available somewhere, please? > > > > Regards > > Jens > > > > > > -- > > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > > > and follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Portrait software
Thanks Cotty I do. I uses CS and CS3 (at work). Wille they do this? Reagards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 1, 2008 15:22 "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/11/08, Jens, discombobulated, unleashed: > >I really would like to have software, that can outomatically create > >a > >sheet /an enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different > >sizes. > >Just like the one you get from school photograohers. > >Does anyone know if such software available somewhere, please? > > If you use Photoshop there is a built in but that does this. > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
