Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[John]

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On 2/18/2016 6:26 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:



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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Darren Addy]

Thanks Steve. In the third post in this thread:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57293994
the guy says he's checked the document from Ricoh, and confirmed but
I'm not sure where the Ricoh source is. But you are correct, it seems
to be coming from Ricoh.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 4:40 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> On 2016-02-18 14:09 , Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> I'd appreciate a link to the source of this info (when you get a moment)
>> Steve.
>
>
> i found it down the page here:
>
> 
>
> as i said, i assume Ricoh supplied it, but a short pass at the Ricoh site
> didn't turn it up
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[steve harley]

On 2016-02-18 14:09 , Darren Addy wrote:

I'd appreciate a link to the source of this info (when you get a moment) Steve.


i found it down the page here:



as i said, i assume Ricoh supplied it, but a short pass at the Ricoh site 
didn't turn it up



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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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Darren Addy  wrote:

>I'd appreciate a link to the source of this info (when you get a moment) Steve.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1/
Chart at bottom of page.

>On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 1:07 AM, steve harley  wrote:
>> On 2016-02-17 23:03 , Philip Northeast wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried mounting some of my lenses on a full frame Pentax body and then
>>> looking through the viewfinder to see how much was obstructed.
>>>
>>> There was surprisingly little vignetting in the corners, suggesting that
>>> the
>>> useable image size with so called digital lenses may be larger than APS-C
>>> size on a K1.
>>
>>
>> there's an interesting chart in the DPReview article that probably comes
>> from a Ricoh source so i'm going to reproduce it here to save people a page
>> load; this is what to expect from DA primes on the K-1:
>>
>> DA 14mm - Crop Mode Only
>> DA 21mm Limited - Crop Mode Only
>> DA 15 F4 Limited - Crop Mode Only
>> DA 35mm F2.4 - Stopped-down
>> DA 35mm F2.8 Macro - Stopped-down
>> DA 40mm Limited - Stopped-down
>> DA 40mm XS - Stopped-down
>> DA 50mm F1.8 - Stopped-down
>> DA* 55mm F1.4 - Stopped-down
>> DA 70mm Limited - Stopped-down
>> DA* 200mm F2.8 SDM - Fully Functional
>> DA* 300mm F4 SDM - Fully Functional
>> DA 560mm F5.6 - Fully Functional
>> RC1.4X - Crop Mode Only
>>
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Darren Addy]

I'd appreciate a link to the source of this info (when you get a moment) Steve.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 1:07 AM, steve harley  wrote:
> On 2016-02-17 23:03 , Philip Northeast wrote:
>>
>> I tried mounting some of my lenses on a full frame Pentax body and then
>> looking through the viewfinder to see how much was obstructed.
>>
>> There was surprisingly little vignetting in the corners, suggesting that
>> the
>> useable image size with so called digital lenses may be larger than APS-C
>> size on a K1.
>
>
> there's an interesting chart in the DPReview article that probably comes
> from a Ricoh source so i'm going to reproduce it here to save people a page
> load; this is what to expect from DA primes on the K-1:
>
> DA 14mm - Crop Mode Only
> DA 21mm Limited - Crop Mode Only
> DA 15 F4 Limited - Crop Mode Only
> DA 35mm F2.4 - Stopped-down
> DA 35mm F2.8 Macro - Stopped-down
> DA 40mm Limited - Stopped-down
> DA 40mm XS - Stopped-down
> DA 50mm F1.8 - Stopped-down
> DA* 55mm F1.4 - Stopped-down
> DA 70mm Limited - Stopped-down
> DA* 200mm F2.8 SDM - Fully Functional
> DA* 300mm F4 SDM - Fully Functional
> DA 560mm F5.6 - Fully Functional
> RC1.4X - Crop Mode Only
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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SAR 27,648

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: John

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Subject: Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

Looking at conversion rates:
US dollars to Japanese Yen, then Japanese yen to Euro, Canadian dollar &
Australian dollar.

USD   1,800.00
JPY 204,374.24
EUR   1,619.30
CAD   2,468.63
AUD   2,516.79

Does not include local taxes & import duties.

If David Brooks is right about the Canadian price, that's about 45%
tacked on.

On 2/17/2016 7:21 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016, at 11:06 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:58 PM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:

You might not have to if the price is as low as they say.

All the rumors I've seen before put the price up over $2,000, but
they're saying $1800 ($1799).


$3500 Canadian, plus a free barrel of oil



At that price I think you'd want more than one barrel...

At the current exchange rate, the price in Australia would be just north
of $2500.  Even if I was in the market for FF, that's more than I'd be
prepared to shell out by a considerable margin.


Cheers

Brian

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On 2/17/2016 5:39 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:


Alright I've read the first two pages of the DPReview article, and they
say wide open metering with K mount lenses...  I'm beginning to worry
that I might have to hock my mother.

On 2/17/2016 5:02 PM, DagT wrote:


It´s here :-)
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1

DagT



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Larry Colen wrote:



John wrote:


On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:


On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
<co...@seeingeye.tv>

wrote:


By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's
not
36mm x 24mm !


Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm

Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So 
it

would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to
remove
the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
:)

Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, 
weasel

words and lame excuses.


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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[John]

Looking at conversion rates:
US dollars to Japanese Yen, then Japanese yen to Euro, Canadian dollar &
Australian dollar.

USD   1,800.00
JPY 204,374.24
EUR   1,619.30
CAD   2,468.63
AUD   2,516.79

Does not include local taxes & import duties.

If David Brooks is right about the Canadian price, that's about 45% 
tacked on.


On 2/17/2016 7:21 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016, at 11:06 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:58 PM, John  wrote:

You might not have to if the price is as low as they say.

All the rumors I've seen before put the price up over $2,000, but
they're saying $1800 ($1799).


$3500 Canadian, plus a free barrel of oil



At that price I think you'd want more than one barrel...

At the current exchange rate, the price in Australia would be just north
of $2500.  Even if I was in the market for FF, that's more than I'd be
prepared to shell out by a considerable margin.


Cheers

Brian

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On 2/17/2016 5:39 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:


Alright I've read the first two pages of the DPReview article, and they
say wide open metering with K mount lenses...  I'm beginning to worry
that I might have to hock my mother.

On 2/17/2016 5:02 PM, DagT wrote:


It´s here :-)
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1

DagT



17. feb. 2016 kl. 22.47 skrev Larry Colen :



Larry Colen wrote:



John wrote:


On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:


On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
wrote:


By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's
not
36mm x 24mm !


Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm

Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to
remove
the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
:)


Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
words and lame excuses.


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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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Yeah, IF I didn't also play guitar!

... and be such a damn fool I haven't got the will power to stay out of
music stores & pawn shops.

On 2/17/2016 11:48 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Good lord. That's $500 less than I was anticipating. Those of you who
have been saving can probably afford TWO.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

DagT wrote:


It´s here :-)
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1


It's also here:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1223123-REG/pentax_k_1_dslr_camera_body.html
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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Matthew Hunt  wrote:

>On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Mark Roberts
> wrote:
>
>> Here's a question I haven't seen asked (or answered) yet: How will the
>> zoom head on flash units like my AF540FGZ respond to the K-1 and its
>> wider field of view (for the same focal length) than APS-C cameras?
>>
>> I would hope either the camera or the flash makes the necessary
>> adjustments without the end user needing to do anything like update
>> firmware or buy a new flash unit.
>
>I have a P-TTL Metz 48 AF-1 that shows the focal length on the LCD. On
>my APS-C cameras, the focal length displayed on the flash is the
>35mm-equivalent focal length. (That is, if I have a 50mm lens on the
>camera, the flash shows 75mm.) So I think the Pentax flash protocol is
>working in 35mm focal lengths already, and the APS-C cameras fudge it
>so the flash covers the APS-C FOV.
>
>If the AF540GZ displays the focal length, and it's the true focal
>length (not 35mm-equivalent), then I would speculate that either the
>flash is fudging it back to APS-C for display purposes (so you might
>need a firmware update for display accuracy) or the flash protocol is
>designed to explicitly support both FF and APS-C (but Metz didn't
>implement that part of the protocol). Either way, I think you'll be OK
>as far as the actual flash zoom mechanism is concerned.

Thanks, Matt. This occurred to me while at school and I don't have the
flash handy but I think it does show "35mm equivalent" focal lengths.
This makes sense as the flash was probably made to be
backwards-compatible with film cameras. Come to think of it, it was
probably made to be compatible with the 645D, so it should be no
surprise that accommodating different Angles of View is part of the
design.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

> Here's a question I haven't seen asked (or answered) yet: How will the
> zoom head on flash units like my AF540FGZ respond to the K-1 and its
> wider field of view (for the same focal length) than APS-C cameras?
>
> I would hope either the camera or the flash makes the necessary
> adjustments without the end user needing to do anything like update
> firmware or buy a new flash unit.

I have a P-TTL Metz 48 AF-1 that shows the focal length on the LCD. On
my APS-C cameras, the focal length displayed on the flash is the
35mm-equivalent focal length. (That is, if I have a 50mm lens on the
camera, the flash shows 75mm.) So I think the Pentax flash protocol is
working in 35mm focal lengths already, and the APS-C cameras fudge it
so the flash covers the APS-C FOV.

If the AF540GZ displays the focal length, and it's the true focal
length (not 35mm-equivalent), then I would speculate that either the
flash is fudging it back to APS-C for display purposes (so you might
need a firmware update for display accuracy) or the flash protocol is
designed to explicitly support both FF and APS-C (but Metz didn't
implement that part of the protocol). Either way, I think you'll be OK
as far as the actual flash zoom mechanism is concerned.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[P.J. Alling]

Well there doesn't seem to be a problem when using the FGZ flashes with 
the 645 digital cameras.  The zoom head is set to the proper coverage 
for the lens and format, I expect it will be the same for the K-1.  That 
will probably be complicated by the K-1 supporting both APS-C and 
24-36mm formats, (we have got to come up with a better terminology than 
full frame or 35mm format for digital cameras), but the coding isn't all 
that difficult to imagine, and wouldn't be that difficult to implement.


I'm pretty sure that the firmware for the 645z and K-3 better than  90% 
identical.


The same is probably true for the K-5 series and 645D.

Pentax does that, leveraging the hardware and software for the K series 
and 645 series cameras off each other.


On 2/18/2016 11:27 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Here's a question I haven't seen asked (or answered) yet: How will the
zoom head on flash units like my AF540FGZ respond to the K-1 and its
wider field of view (for the same focal length) than APS-C cameras?

I would hope either the camera or the flash makes the necessary
adjustments without the end user needing to do anything like update
firmware or buy a new flash unit.




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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Mark Roberts]

Here's a question I haven't seen asked (or answered) yet: How will the
zoom head on flash units like my AF540FGZ respond to the K-1 and its
wider field of view (for the same focal length) than APS-C cameras? 

I would hope either the camera or the flash makes the necessary
adjustments without the end user needing to do anything like update
firmware or buy a new flash unit.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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The 1.7 is a very nice converter.  It works well, but you are limited to 
the central AF point, the adapter defaults the camera to believing that 
any lens is a K, M, or A class.


I've used it a lot, but the suggestions for use are simply misleading.  
Instead of leaving the lens focused at infinity, I first get close by 
focusing manually then  activate auto focus, usually it snaps right into 
focus even with older cameras.  The problem is you cannot just trust to 
auto focus with the adapter.


Pentax didn't recommend it for use with lenses slower than f2.8. I find 
it works reliably with f4.0 lenses on the K20D and K-5II in most 
lighting and the *ist-D series in relatively bright light.


I don't remember at this point exactly how well it worked with AF film 
cameras, but I got pretty good results with the LX after figuring out 
how to set the adapter to it's infinity focus point.



On 2/18/2016 10:45 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I figure I'll use the 1.4 in crop mode or on my K3 for small bird photography 
with the 150/450. That's been working fine so far. For anything else I shoot, 
450mm will be plenty on the K1. The problem with the 1.7 has always been 
unreliable autofocus. I don't think I want one.

Paul via phone


On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:

Thanks for the heads-up on the 1.4x vs 1.7x converters. I would
imagine that a new FF converter is on the drawing boards right now,
but in the meantime this means that the used market on these is going
to take a big jump. I just snagged an EXC+ one from KEH for $239,
which is about 50% less than they were going for before the 1.4x was
introduced. I have the feeling that the 1.7x will be in the upper 300s
and lower 400s very soon - once MORE people realize this.

I don't plan on being an early adopter of the K-1, but that is one
piece that will be valuable regardless (including on my K-3 II).

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Stanley Halpin
 wrote:

On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Jan van Wijk  wrote:

Very impressed by the K1 specs sofar (and the price).

Won't be the first to get one, but perhaps later in the year :)

…

DA 560mm F5.6 - Fully Functional
RC1.4X - Crop Mode Only


That last one is a bit of a suprise, I would have expected that to work in FF.
Will we no have to wait another 10 years for an updated one ?

(Of course I can use the 1.4L, but no AF then)

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crop mode only.
But I still have the F1.7AF… Still thinking about this...

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Paul Stenquist]

I figure I'll use the 1.4 in crop mode or on my K3 for small bird photography 
with the 150/450. That's been working fine so far. For anything else I shoot, 
450mm will be plenty on the K1. The problem with the 1.7 has always been 
unreliable autofocus. I don't think I want one.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the heads-up on the 1.4x vs 1.7x converters. I would
> imagine that a new FF converter is on the drawing boards right now,
> but in the meantime this means that the used market on these is going
> to take a big jump. I just snagged an EXC+ one from KEH for $239,
> which is about 50% less than they were going for before the 1.4x was
> introduced. I have the feeling that the 1.7x will be in the upper 300s
> and lower 400s very soon - once MORE people realize this.
> 
> I don't plan on being an early adopter of the K-1, but that is one
> piece that will be valuable regardless (including on my K-3 II).
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Stanley Halpin
>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Jan van Wijk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very impressed by the K1 specs sofar (and the price).
>>> 
>>> Won't be the first to get one, but perhaps later in the year :)
>>> 
>>> …
>> 
 DA 560mm F5.6 - Fully Functional
 RC1.4X - Crop Mode Only
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That last one is a bit of a suprise, I would have expected that to work in 
>>> FF.
>>> Will we no have to wait another 10 years for an updated one ?
>>> 
>>> (Of course I can use the 1.4L, but no AF then)
>>> 
>>> Regards, JvW
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>> 
>> I agree. I was quite disappointed to see that the relatively new RC1.4X will 
>> be crop mode only.
>> But I still have the F1.7AF… Still thinking about this...
>> 
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Darren Addy]

Thanks for the heads-up on the 1.4x vs 1.7x converters. I would
imagine that a new FF converter is on the drawing boards right now,
but in the meantime this means that the used market on these is going
to take a big jump. I just snagged an EXC+ one from KEH for $239,
which is about 50% less than they were going for before the 1.4x was
introduced. I have the feeling that the 1.7x will be in the upper 300s
and lower 400s very soon - once MORE people realize this.

I don't plan on being an early adopter of the K-1, but that is one
piece that will be valuable regardless (including on my K-3 II).

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Stanley Halpin
 wrote:
>
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Jan van Wijk  wrote:
>>
>> Very impressed by the K1 specs sofar (and the price).
>>
>> Won't be the first to get one, but perhaps later in the year :)
>>
>> …
>
>>> DA 560mm F5.6 - Fully Functional
>>> RC1.4X - Crop Mode Only
>>
>>
>> That last one is a bit of a suprise, I would have expected that to work in 
>> FF.
>> Will we no have to wait another 10 years for an updated one ?
>>
>> (Of course I can use the 1.4L, but no AF then)
>>
>> Regards, JvW
>>
>> --
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>> Flickr : jvw_pentax
>>
>
> I agree. I was quite disappointed to see that the relatively new RC1.4X will 
> be crop mode only.
> But I still have the F1.7AF… Still thinking about this...
>
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[P.J. Alling]

You can't tell a lot through the viewfinder.  Pixel peeping will show 
all the warts.  Even then when making prints or display sized files for 
that matter, the edge effects may be acceptable.


On 2/18/2016 1:03 AM, Philip Northeast wrote:

Warning, this may cause some people a bit of angst.

I tried mounting some of my lenses on a full frame Pentax body and 
then looking through the viewfinder to see how much was obstructed.


There was surprisingly little vignetting in the corners, suggesting 
that the useable image size with so called digital lenses may be 
larger than APS-C size on a K1.


This does not give any idea of the image quality around the edges, but 
it is very encouraging, especially for my Limited and DA* lenses.




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On 16/02/2016 9:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Yeah, people have been spreading the rumour that the official
announcement is going to come on Thursday. I've been skeptical myself.
But it appears, if I'm understanding things correctly, that someone
with connections to the German Ricoh distributor has posted an "Event"
on Facebook for the official K-1 unveiling at 6:00 p.m. (German time)
on Thursday and they give the location as being Pentax Ricoh Imaging
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Jan van Wijk  wrote:
> 
> Very impressed by the K1 specs sofar (and the price).
> 
> Won't be the first to get one, but perhaps later in the year :)
> 
> …

>> DA 560mm F5.6 - Fully Functional
>> RC1.4X - Crop Mode Only
> 
> 
> That last one is a bit of a suprise, I would have expected that to work in FF.
> Will we no have to wait another 10 years for an updated one ?
> 
> (Of course I can use the 1.4L, but no AF then)
> 
> Regards, JvW
> 
> --
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> Flickr : jvw_pentax
> 

I agree. I was quite disappointed to see that the relatively new RC1.4X will be 
crop mode only.
But I still have the F1.7AF… Still thinking about this...

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Jan van Wijk]

Very impressed by the K1 specs sofar (and the price).

Won't be the first to get one, but perhaps later in the year :)


On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 00:07:03 -0700 steve harley wrote:
>
>there's an interesting chart in the DPReview article that probably comes from 
>a Ricoh source so i'm going to reproduce it here to save people a page load; 
>this is what to expect from DA primes on the 
K-1:
>
>DA 14mm - Crop Mode Only   
>DA 21mm Limited - Crop Mode Only   
>DA 15 F4 Limited - Crop Mode Only  
>DA 35mm F2.4 - Stopped-down
>DA 35mm F2.8 Macro - Stopped-down  
>DA 40mm Limited - Stopped-down 
>DA 40mm XS - Stopped-down  
>DA 50mm F1.8 - Stopped-down
>DA* 55mm F1.4 - Stopped-down
>DA 70mm Limited - Stopped-down
>DA* 200mm F2.8 SDM - Fully Functional
>DA* 300mm F4 SDM - Fully Functional
>DA 560mm F5.6 - Fully Functional
>RC1.4X - Crop Mode Only


That last one is a bit of a suprise, I would have expected that to work in FF.
Will we no have to wait another 10 years for an updated one ?

(Of course I can use the 1.4L, but no AF then)

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[steve harley]

On 2016-02-17 23:03 , Philip Northeast wrote:

I tried mounting some of my lenses on a full frame Pentax body and then
looking through the viewfinder to see how much was obstructed.

There was surprisingly little vignetting in the corners, suggesting that the
useable image size with so called digital lenses may be larger than APS-C
size on a K1.


there's an interesting chart in the DPReview article that probably comes 
from a Ricoh source so i'm going to reproduce it here to save people a page 
load; this is what to expect from DA primes on the K-1:


DA 14mm - Crop Mode Only
DA 21mm Limited - Crop Mode Only
DA 15 F4 Limited - Crop Mode Only   
DA 35mm F2.4 - Stopped-down 
DA 35mm F2.8 Macro - Stopped-down   
DA 40mm Limited - Stopped-down  
DA 40mm XS - Stopped-down   
DA 50mm F1.8 - Stopped-down
DA* 55mm F1.4 - Stopped-down
DA 70mm Limited - Stopped-down
DA* 200mm F2.8 SDM - Fully Functional
DA* 300mm F4 SDM - Fully Functional
DA 560mm F5.6 - Fully Functional
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Philip Northeast]

Warning, this may cause some people a bit of angst.

I tried mounting some of my lenses on a full frame Pentax body and then 
looking through the viewfinder to see how much was obstructed.


There was surprisingly little vignetting in the corners, suggesting that 
the useable image size with so called digital lenses may be larger than 
APS-C size on a K1.


This does not give any idea of the image quality around the edges, but 
it is very encouraging, especially for my Limited and DA* lenses.




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On 16/02/2016 9:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Yeah, people have been spreading the rumour that the official
announcement is going to come on Thursday. I've been skeptical myself.
But it appears, if I'm understanding things correctly, that someone
with connections to the German Ricoh distributor has posted an "Event"
on Facebook for the official K-1 unveiling at 6:00 p.m. (German time)
on Thursday and they give the location as being Pentax Ricoh Imaging
in Hamburg. That's pretty damned specific...




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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Darren Addy]

Good lord. That's $500 less than I was anticipating. Those of you who
have been saving can probably afford TWO.

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> DagT wrote:
>
>>It´s here :-)
>>http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1
>
> It's also here:
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Philip Northeast]

This link contains a video review with sample shots by the K1

http://adorama.evyy.net/c/63008/51926/1036?u=http://www.adorama.com/g/new-pentax-k-1 



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On 18/02/2016 2:21 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaqdOYQIAAAUxSd.jpg:large

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

DagT wrote:


It´s here :-)
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1


It's also here:
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> DagT wrote:
>
>>It´s here :-)
>>http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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DagT wrote:

>It´s here :-)
>http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1

It's also here:
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Darren Addy]

And may I be the first to say "WI-FI"? As in no FLU-CARD???
If so, this is Major.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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>
> P.J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> Alright I've read the first two pages of the DPReview article, and they
>> say wide open metering with K mount lenses... I'm beginning to worry
>> that I might have to hock my mother.
>
>
> With list price only being $1,800 rather than the expected $2,200, you may
> only need to rent her out for a while.


Congrats, Larry. I guarantee we will see that in the MARK! section of
the 2016 Annual.



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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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On Thu, Feb 18, 2016, at 11:06 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:58 PM, John  wrote:
> > You might not have to if the price is as low as they say.
> >
> > All the rumors I've seen before put the price up over $2,000, but
> > they're saying $1800 ($1799).
> 
> $3500 Canadian, plus a free barrel of oil
> 

At that price I think you'd want more than one barrel...

At the current exchange rate, the price in Australia would be just north
of $2500.  Even if I was in the market for FF, that's more than I'd be
prepared to shell out by a considerable margin.


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> >
> > On 2/17/2016 5:39 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
> >>
> >> Alright I've read the first two pages of the DPReview article, and they
> >> say wide open metering with K mount lenses...  I'm beginning to worry
> >> that I might have to hock my mother.
> >>
> >> On 2/17/2016 5:02 PM, DagT wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It´s here :-)
> >>> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1
> >>>
> >>> DagT
> >>>
> >>>
>  17. feb. 2016 kl. 22.47 skrev Larry Colen :
> 
> 
> 
>  Larry Colen wrote:
> >
> >
> > John wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's
>  not
>  36mm x 24mm !
> >>>
> >>> Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm
> >>>
> >>> Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
> >>> would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to
> >>> remove
> >>> the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >> Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
> >> words and lame excuses.
> >
> > Ma nishtana ha laila hazeh?
> 
>  Or, for the goyim:
> 
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:58 PM, John  wrote:
> You might not have to if the price is as low as they say.
>
> All the rumors I've seen before put the price up over $2,000, but
> they're saying $1800 ($1799).

$3500 Canadian, plus a free barrel of oil

Dave
>
>
> On 2/17/2016 5:39 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> Alright I've read the first two pages of the DPReview article, and they
>> say wide open metering with K mount lenses...  I'm beginning to worry
>> that I might have to hock my mother.
>>
>> On 2/17/2016 5:02 PM, DagT wrote:
>>>
>>> It´s here :-)
>>> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1
>>>
>>> DagT
>>>
>>>
 17. feb. 2016 kl. 22.47 skrev Larry Colen :



 Larry Colen wrote:
>
>
> John wrote:
>>
>> On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
>>> wrote:

 By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's
 not
 36mm x 24mm !
>>>
>>> Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm
>>>
>>> Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
>>> would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to
>>> remove
>>> the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
>>> :)
>>>
>> Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
>> words and lame excuses.
>
> Ma nishtana ha laila hazeh?

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[John]

You might not have to if the price is as low as they say.

All the rumors I've seen before put the price up over $2,000, but
they're saying $1800 ($1799).

On 2/17/2016 5:39 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Alright I've read the first two pages of the DPReview article, and they
say wide open metering with K mount lenses...  I'm beginning to worry
that I might have to hock my mother.

On 2/17/2016 5:02 PM, DagT wrote:

It´s here :-)
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1

DagT



17. feb. 2016 kl. 22.47 skrev Larry Colen :



Larry Colen wrote:


John wrote:

On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
wrote:

By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's
not
36mm x 24mm !

Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm

Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to
remove
the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
:)


Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
words and lame excuses.

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P.J. Alling wrote:

Alright I've read the first two pages of the DPReview article, and they
say wide open metering with K mount lenses... I'm beginning to worry
that I might have to hock my mother.


With list price only being $1,800 rather than the expected $2,200, you 
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Alright I've read the first two pages of the DPReview article, and they 
say wide open metering with K mount lenses...  I'm beginning to worry 
that I might have to hock my mother.


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It´s here :-)
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1

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17. feb. 2016 kl. 22.47 skrev Larry Colen :



Larry Colen wrote:


John wrote:

On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
wrote:

By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
36mm x 24mm !

Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm

Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
:)


Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
words and lame excuses.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[DagT]

I know the Norwegian Ricoh ambassador personally and according to him the 
embargo ended at 23:00 tonight Norwegian time…

DagT

> 17. feb. 2016 kl. 23.18 skrev P.J. Alling :
> 
> I wonder who broke the embargo a day early so that DPReview felt safe doing 
> so.
> 
> On 2/17/2016 5:02 PM, DagT wrote:
>> It´s here :-)
>> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1
>> 
>> DagT
>> 
>> 
>>> 17. feb. 2016 kl. 22.47 skrev Larry Colen :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Larry Colen wrote:
 
 John wrote:
> On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
>> wrote:
>>> By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
>>> 36mm x 24mm !
>> Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm
>> 
>> Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
>> would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
>> the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
>> :)
>> 
> Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
> words and lame excuses.
 Ma nishtana ha laila hazeh?
>>> Or, for the goyim:
>>> 
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[P.J. Alling]

I wonder who broke the embargo a day early so that DPReview felt safe 
doing so.


On 2/17/2016 5:02 PM, DagT wrote:

It´s here :-)
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1

DagT



17. feb. 2016 kl. 22.47 skrev Larry Colen :



Larry Colen wrote:


John wrote:

On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
wrote:

By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
36mm x 24mm !

Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm

Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
:)


Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
words and lame excuses.

Ma nishtana ha laila hazeh?

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Why is this night different from all other nights?

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[David J Brooks]

just got this from their face book page

http://us.ricoh-imaging.com/product/k-series/k1/

Dave

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:02 PM, DagT  wrote:
> It´s here :-)
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1
>
> DagT
>
>
>> 17. feb. 2016 kl. 22.47 skrev Larry Colen :
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry Colen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> John wrote:
 On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
> wrote:
>> By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
>> 36mm x 24mm !
>
> Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm
>
> Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
> would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
> the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
> :)
>

 Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
 words and lame excuses.
>>>
>>> Ma nishtana ha laila hazeh?
>>
>> Or, for the goyim:
>>
>> Why is this night different from all other nights?
>>
>>>

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[DagT]

It´s here :-)
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1

DagT


> 17. feb. 2016 kl. 22.47 skrev Larry Colen :
> 
> 
> 
> Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> John wrote:
>>> On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
 wrote:
> By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
> 36mm x 24mm !
 
 Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm
 
 Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
 would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
 the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
 :)
 
>>> 
>>> Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
>>> words and lame excuses.
>> 
>> Ma nishtana ha laila hazeh?
> 
> Or, for the goyim:
> 
> Why is this night different from all other nights?
> 
>> 
>>> 
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Larry Colen]

Larry Colen wrote:



John wrote:

On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
wrote:

By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
36mm x 24mm !


Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm

Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
:)



Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
words and lame excuses.


Ma nishtana ha laila hazeh?


Or, for the goyim:

Why is this night different from all other nights?









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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Larry Colen]

John wrote:

On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
wrote:

By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
36mm x 24mm !


Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm

Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
:)



Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
words and lame excuses.


Ma nishtana ha laila hazeh?





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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:17 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> On 2/17/2016 4:12 PM, John wrote:
>>
>> On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell 
>>> wrote:

 By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
 36mm x 24mm !
>>>
>>>
>>> Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm
>>>
>>> Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
>>> would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
>>> the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
>>> :)
>>>
>>
>> Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
>> words and lame excuses.
>>
> Well, Cotty could always form a hat out of waffles...

And weasel road-kill.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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On 2/17/2016 4:12 PM, John wrote:

On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell  
wrote:

By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
36mm x 24mm !


Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm

Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
:)



Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
words and lame excuses.


Well, Cotty could always form a hat out of waffles...

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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On 2/16/2016 5:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
36mm x 24mm !


Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm

Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
:)



Looks like what we're going to get is a whole lot of waffling, weasel
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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On February 17, 2016 11:29:26 AM PST, Darren Addy  wrote:
>She's into Macs & Pentax & knows about instructables? I think I like
>her already.

I've also posted pictures of her, driving her racecar at Daytona. She is 
impressively multitalented.

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>On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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>> On February 17, 2016 12:45:01 AM PST, Nicole Jacque 
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>>>Or this.  http://www.instructables.com/id/edible-party-hat/
>>>
>>>Edible, AND stylish*
>>>
>>>* for some value of stylish.
>>>
>>>
 On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:41 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:



 Steve Cottrell wrote:
> On 16/2/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>> Truth be to tell, 24x36 was an aim point anyway. I hand printed
>> something like 10 million 35mm negatives during my lab career,
>and
>>>I
>> guarantee you, there were a lot of "35mm" cameras out there that
>>>had a
>> smaller image size than 24x36, some a lot smaller.
>>
>> I do think you should be looking for a chocolate hat.
>
> I'm calling a meeting of the Edible Milliners Society

 If you don't want some hamentaschen, you could always wear a crepe
>as
>>>a yarmulke for long enough for it to qualify as a hat.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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She's into Macs & Pentax & knows about instructables? I think I like
her already.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> On February 17, 2016 12:45:01 AM PST, Nicole Jacque  wrote:
>>Or this.  http://www.instructables.com/id/edible-party-hat/
>>
>>Edible, AND stylish*
>>
>>* for some value of stylish.
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:41 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Cottrell wrote:
 On 16/2/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

> Truth be to tell, 24x36 was an aim point anyway. I hand printed
> something like 10 million 35mm negatives during my lab career, and
>>I
> guarantee you, there were a lot of "35mm" cameras out there that
>>had a
> smaller image size than 24x36, some a lot smaller.
>
> I do think you should be looking for a chocolate hat.

 I'm calling a meeting of the Edible Milliners Society
>>>
>>> If you don't want some hamentaschen, you could always wear a crepe as
>>a yarmulke for long enough for it to qualify as a hat.
>>>

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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Since she delurked I should take this opportunity to welcome Nicole too the 
PDML.

On February 17, 2016 12:45:01 AM PST, Nicole Jacque  wrote:
>Or this.  http://www.instructables.com/id/edible-party-hat/
>
>Edible, AND stylish*
>
>* for some value of stylish.
>
>
>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:41 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Steve Cottrell wrote:
>>> On 16/2/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>> 
 Truth be to tell, 24x36 was an aim point anyway. I hand printed
 something like 10 million 35mm negatives during my lab career, and
>I
 guarantee you, there were a lot of "35mm" cameras out there that
>had a
 smaller image size than 24x36, some a lot smaller.
 
 I do think you should be looking for a chocolate hat.
>>> 
>>> I'm calling a meeting of the Edible Milliners Society
>> 
>> If you don't want some hamentaschen, you could always wear a crepe as
>a yarmulke for long enough for it to qualify as a hat.
>> 
>>> 
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Nicole Jacque]

Or this.  http://www.instructables.com/id/edible-party-hat/

Edible, AND stylish*

* for some value of stylish.


> On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:41 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> On 16/2/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> Truth be to tell, 24x36 was an aim point anyway. I hand printed
>>> something like 10 million 35mm negatives during my lab career, and I
>>> guarantee you, there were a lot of "35mm" cameras out there that had a
>>> smaller image size than 24x36, some a lot smaller.
>>> 
>>> I do think you should be looking for a chocolate hat.
>> 
>> I'm calling a meeting of the Edible Milliners Society
> 
> If you don't want some hamentaschen, you could always wear a crepe as a 
> yarmulke for long enough for it to qualify as a hat.
> 
>> 
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Larry Colen]

Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 16/2/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:


Truth be to tell, 24x36 was an aim point anyway. I hand printed
something like 10 million 35mm negatives during my lab career, and I
guarantee you, there were a lot of "35mm" cameras out there that had a
smaller image size than 24x36, some a lot smaller.

I do think you should be looking for a chocolate hat.


I'm calling a meeting of the Edible Milliners Society


If you don't want some hamentaschen, you could always wear a crepe as a 
yarmulke for long enough for it to qualify as a hat.






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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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On 16/2/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Truth be to tell, 24x36 was an aim point anyway. I hand printed 
>something like 10 million 35mm negatives during my lab career, and I 
>guarantee you, there were a lot of "35mm" cameras out there that had a 
>smaller image size than 24x36, some a lot smaller.
>
>I do think you should be looking for a chocolate hat.

I'm calling a meeting of the Edible Milliners Society

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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On 16/2/16, Darren Addy, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
>would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
>the decimal point let's see. What do we get?

Hmm.

If we take it as a percentage, it's .28pc , so if your income tax bill
was short by .28pc on say 200,000 ASD, and the govt was still owing you
560 bucks, you wouldn't mind?

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

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On 16/2/16, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>To verify this rumor I believe you will need to buy a K-1, carefully
>remove the sensor, and do a careful measurement in the presence of at
>least 5 certified PDML observers. Later you can install the sensor in
>your video camera, thereby upgrading that rig...

That would be a fair test

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Bill]

On 2/16/2016 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
36mm x 24mm !

I think my hat might scrape through intact.

;-)



Truth be to tell, 24x36 was an aim point anyway. I hand printed 
something like 10 million 35mm negatives during my lab career, and I 
guarantee you, there were a lot of "35mm" cameras out there that had a 
smaller image size than 24x36, some a lot smaller.


I do think you should be looking for a chocolate hat.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Stanley Halpin]

To verify this rumor I believe you will need to buy a K-1, carefully remove the 
sensor, and do a careful measurement in the presence of at least 5 certified 
PDML observers. Later you can install the sensor in your video camera, thereby 
upgrading that rig…

stan

> On Feb 16, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
> 36mm x 24mm !
> 
> I think my hat might scrape through intact.
> 
> ;-)
> 
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> Cheers,
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Darren Addy]

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
> 36mm x 24mm !

Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm

Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
:)

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Bob W-PDML]

The way a camel scrapes through the eye of a needle, or a rich man into heaven?

> On 16 Feb 2016, at 22:12, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
> 36mm x 24mm !
> 
> I think my hat might scrape through intact.
> 
> ;-)
> 
> 

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Steve Cottrell]

On 16/2/16, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

>That's a very lawyerly statement, and you should be ashamed...

Must be something to do with the BlackBerry I just got

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Steve Cottrell]

On 17/2/16, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The clutching at straws has begun

:-D

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[P.J. Alling]

That's a very lawyerly statement, and you should be ashamed...

On 2/16/2016 5:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
36mm x 24mm !

I think my hat might scrape through intact.

;-)




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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Brian Walters]

The clutching at straws has begun


Cheers

Brian


On Wed, Feb 17, 2016, at 09:11 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
> 36mm x 24mm !
> 
> I think my hat might scrape through intact.
> 
> ;-)
> 
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> 
> Cheers,
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Steve Cottrell]

By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
36mm x 24mm !

I think my hat might scrape through intact.

;-)

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[John]

Rumor I read is the wraps come off at the beginning of CP+. That would
be Thursday a week; 25 Feb.

On 2/15/2016 5:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Yeah, people have been spreading the rumour that the official
announcement is going to come on Thursday. I've been skeptical myself.
But it appears, if I'm understanding things correctly, that someone
with connections to the German Ricoh distributor has posted an "Event"
on Facebook for the official K-1 unveiling at 6:00 p.m. (German time)
on Thursday and they give the location as being Pentax Ricoh Imaging
in Hamburg. That's pretty damned specific...




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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

[Larry Colen]

Mark Roberts wrote:

Yeah, people have been spreading the rumour that the official
announcement is going to come on Thursday. I've been skeptical myself.
But it appears, if I'm understanding things correctly, that someone
with connections to the German Ricoh distributor has posted an "Event"
on Facebook for the official K-1 unveiling at 6:00 p.m. (German time)
on Thursday and they give the location as being Pentax Ricoh Imaging
in Hamburg. That's pretty damned specific...


So, by noon my time on Thursday, I'll know whether my next expensive 
camera purchase will be Pentax or Nikon.  :-)






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