Re: Trade ?
- Original Message - From: "Collin R Brendemuehl" Subject: Trade ? > I have a perfectly functional (though well-worn) MG to trade for something. > But I don't know what. Make me an offer. How is the engine?, And does the roof leak? William Robb
Re: Trade ?
Only interested if it is a TC or earlier. Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: I have a perfectly functional (though well-worn) MG to trade for something. But I don't know what. Make me an offer. Might be a good carry-around with that reliable M shutter and simple operation. (There is no Off position!) Collin -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: Trade ?
Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have a perfectly functional (though well-worn) MG to trade for something. >But I don't know what. Make me an offer. Well I don't have anything to offer in trade but TV's got a new dog... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Trade in : MX and LX for 67
On Thursday, February 7, 2002, at 02:15 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: > > Maybe I will see what has to go, but my wife does not like the LX > (surprised > me - loves the MX) so we will see. But what does she think of the 67? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Trade in : MX and LX for 67
> On Thursday, February 7, 2002, at 02:15 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: > > > > Maybe I will see what has to go, but my wife does not like the LX > > (surprised > > me - loves the MX) so we will see. > > But what does she think of the 67? > > -Aaron ### My wife often has to use a camera at work. It *make and model not mentioned, in case someone likes them and I upset someone else* is an automatic 35mm. It often "thinks for itself" and she often found that what came back from processing, was not what she wanted. By agreement the company give her film and she uses the MX which has always given her what she expected post-processing. The LX looks more expensive, a consideration as a target of theft in London sadly, and offers her additional features she feels she doesn't need. The 67, finally getting to the point(!) is not a format she needs, and therefore is dismissed - not relevant to her needs. I take photos now for pleasure, and I would like to try a different format before I get too set in my ways - but decisions on camera sales first ;-( Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention. The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the manus hoped for, is it? On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > Ann, still got your *istD? > > Samsung Will Give You a Free NX30 if You #DitchTheDSLR on June 4th in NYC > http://petapixel.com/2014/05/28/samsung-will-give-free-nx30-ditchthedslr-june-4th-nyc/#more-136862 > > Something tells me you may want to be in line early. > :) > > > > -- > Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs > look like photographs. > ~ Alfred Stieglitz > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
Which is too bad in a way. I just left the "local" full service camera store, (unfortunately they are not going to start stocking Pentax again any time soon), played with a Sony a7 ff and was blown away by the EVF. It's really very good. If only the shutter wasn't so damned loud and the rest of the performance wasn't so comprised, also got to play with a Fuji Pro X 1, and while the hybrid Optical/Electronic viewfinder is intriguing, after looking at the Sony the electronic side of the viewfinder was just rough and annoying. The rest of the camera was just, retro, beautiful. Hell I'm close enough to New York that I could take either my *ist-Ds or D in and take advantage of the offer. On 5/28/2014 10:44 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention. The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the manus hoped for, is it? On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Ann, still got your *istD? Samsung Will Give You a Free NX30 if You #DitchTheDSLR on June 4th in NYC http://petapixel.com/2014/05/28/samsung-will-give-free-nx30-ditchthedslr-june-4th-nyc/#more-136862 Something tells me you may want to be in line early. :) -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
Quoting Bruce Walker : Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention. The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the manus hoped for, is it? I wonder why that is. Quite a few on this list have gone down the mirrorless path and I think Ricoh/Pentax is missing out by failing to get a competitive mirrorless camera to market (competitive with the Fuji et al offerings, that is). They've shown they have the technical know-how with the K-01 and Q series. I'm fairly sure I've bought my last DSLR (K-5) and I expect to be in the market for something like the Fuji X-E2 about this time next year. If Ricoh can't oblige by then, I'll be changing systems (partly, anyway). Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Ann, still got your *istD? Samsung Will Give You a Free NX30 if You #DitchTheDSLR on June 4th in NYC http://petapixel.com/2014/05/28/samsung-will-give-free-nx30-ditchthedslr-june-4th-nyc/#more-136862 Something tells me you may want to be in line early. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > Quoting Bruce Walker : > >> Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention. >> >> The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the manus >> hoped for, is it? > > I wonder why that is. Quite a few on this list have gone down the > mirrorless path and I think Ricoh/Pentax is missing out by failing to get a > competitive mirrorless camera to market (competitive with the Fuji et al > offerings, that is). They've shown they have the technical know-how with > the K-01 and Q series. Regardless, what is the point of showing off your superior technical prowess by creating a camera for a tiny market? Especially if you are Pentax and can't afford to (a) dilute your R&D and production resources, and (b) spend hard-won money for poor returns. Look what happened with the K-01. > I'm fairly sure I've bought my last DSLR (K-5) and I expect to be in the > market for something like the Fuji X-E2 about this time next year. If Ricoh > can't oblige by then, I'll be changing systems (partly, anyway). I went for 6 years between Pentax cameras (K20D -> K-3). There's no way I will attempt to predict what Pentax/Ricoh might be offering in 2020. But given my current direction, my next is likely to be a successor to the 645D, which is still an SLR afaik. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
I wouldn't assign this 'truly desperate attempt' to the "mirrorless" domain. I'd assign it to the Samsung cameras domain. Samsung has been struggling to get market recognition for their brand in cameras since the late 1980s. They bought Rollei and held that for a while, the have rights to use the Schneider name. They have a decent line-up in their " mirrorless" system. But few in the US seem to care about any Samsung camera. Sony, Panasonic, Olympus, and Fuji seems to be doing nicely with these systems. SLRs are still stronger in the US by a good margin, but it's hard to read the market clearly when sales of ALL cameras have taken a huge tumble in the past two-three years, SLRs included. The Sony A7, the Fuji XT-1, the Olympus E-M1, the Panasonic GH4 ... These are all pretty fine cameras. It will take some time yet to see them take the mindspace majority position, mostly because none of them are labeled Nikon or Canon. Godfrey > On May 28, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention. > > The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the manus > hoped for, is it? > > >> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> Ann, still got your *istD? >> >> Samsung Will Give You a Free NX30 if You #DitchTheDSLR on June 4th in NYC >> http://petapixel.com/2014/05/28/samsung-will-give-free-nx30-ditchthedslr-june-4th-nyc/#more-136862 >> >> Something tells me you may want to be in line early. >> :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
On 5/28/2014 7:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Bruce Walker : Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention. The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the manus hoped for, is it? I wonder why that is. Quite a few on this list have gone down the mirrorless path and I think Ricoh/Pentax is missing out by failing to get a competitive mirrorless camera to market (competitive with the Fuji et al offerings, that is). They've shown they have the technical know-how with the K-01 and Q series. Regardless, what is the point of showing off your superior technical prowess by creating a camera for a tiny market? Especially if you are Pentax and can't afford to (a) dilute your R&D and production resources, and (b) spend hard-won money for poor returns. Look what happened with the K-01. I'm fairly sure I've bought my last DSLR (K-5) and I expect to be in the market for something like the Fuji X-E2 about this time next year. If Ricoh can't oblige by then, I'll be changing systems (partly, anyway). I went for 6 years between Pentax cameras (K20D -> K-3). There's no way I will attempt to predict what Pentax/Ricoh might be offering in 2020. But given my current direction, my next is likely to be a successor to the 645D, which is still an SLR afaik. Let's be honest. The K-01 was a minimal R&D effort. It was basically a K30 without a Pentaprism/mirrorbos, that sold for about the same price as a K30. The biggest cost to Pentax was hiring Marc Newsom to put lipstick on the pig. If Pentax had simply copied the styling cues from a Kodak Instamatic 100 they would have had a bigger seller, with a higher profit margin. If Pentax had actually spent some R&D money on fitting an EVF into it, at least as good as the one in the Fuji Pro X 1, everyone who owns a collection of Pentax lenses would have bought one as a second body, to hell with what it looked like. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
As mirrorless cameras go this is really quite large. Compared to the K5 series it's well just about the same size. Add a fotodiox K-NX adapter and it's pretty much the same size as the K5 in all dimensions. The only other Mirrorless camera I know of that's in this size range is the Panasonic GH3/4 so it's kind of ironic when Samsung's press release says and I quote "For years photographers have been misled to believe that they need big, often awkward DSLRs to take great pictures. Smaller mirrorless cameras, like the Samsung NX30, ..." On 5/28/2014 10:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Ann, still got your *istD? Samsung Will Give You a Free NX30 if You #DitchTheDSLR on June 4th in NYC http://petapixel.com/2014/05/28/samsung-will-give-free-nx30-ditchthedslr-june-4th-nyc/#more-136862 Something tells me you may want to be in line early. :) -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
Quoting "P.J. Alling" : As mirrorless cameras go this is really quite large. Compared to the K5 series it's well just about the same size. Add a fotodiox K-NX adapter and it's pretty much the same size as the K5 in all dimensions. The only other Mirrorless camera I know of that's in this size range is the Panasonic GH3/4 so it's kind of ironic when Samsung's press release says and I quote "For years photographers have been misled to believe that they need big, often awkward DSLRs to take great pictures. Smaller mirrorless cameras, like the Samsung NX30, ..." But it is lighter (375g v/s 750g for the K-5; body only), which is something I'd be looking for in my next camera. Apparently the NYC event is by registration and the free cameras are for the first 200 in line. http://www.eventbrite.com/e/samsung-ditchthedslr-day-tickets-11608805249?aff=es2/ Not much point in me hopping on a plane, then Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On 5/28/2014 10:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Ann, still got your *istD? Samsung Will Give You a Free NX30 if You #DitchTheDSLR on June 4th in NYC http://petapixel.com/2014/05/28/samsung-will-give-free-nx30-ditchthedslr-june-4th-nyc/#more-136862 Something tells me you may want to be in line early. :) -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
On 5/28/2014 9:52 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting "P.J. Alling" : As mirrorless cameras go this is really quite large. Compared to the K5 series it's well just about the same size. Add a fotodiox K-NX adapter and it's pretty much the same size as the K5 in all dimensions. The only other Mirrorless camera I know of that's in this size range is the Panasonic GH3/4 so it's kind of ironic when Samsung's press release says and I quote "For years photographers have been misled to believe that they need big, often awkward DSLRs to take great pictures. Smaller mirrorless cameras, like the Samsung NX30, ..." But it is lighter (375g v/s 750g for the K-5; body only), which is something I'd be looking for in my next camera. Apparently the NYC event is by registration and the free cameras are for the first 200 in line. http://www.eventbrite.com/e/samsung-ditchthedslr-day-tickets-11608805249?aff=es2/ Not much point in me hopping on a plane, then I can take the train in, check things out, have lunch in Times Square, (Last time I did that, the food was surprisingly good, and not particularly expensive). So a Wednesday playing hooky, might not be a bad idea. Only problem is it's New York, a city I have a love, hate, hate, relationship with. Oh well, I've got a couple of days to decide, it doesn't say first 200 registered. The thing about the Samsung is that except for the WiFi it's, based on the reviews anyway, a Me Too camera. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On 5/28/2014 10:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Ann, still got your *istD? Samsung Will Give You a Free NX30 if You #DitchTheDSLR on June 4th in NYC http://petapixel.com/2014/05/28/samsung-will-give-free-nx30-ditchthedslr-june-4th-nyc/#more-136862 Something tells me you may want to be in line early. :) -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
If this works the way it usually works in my experience, it's probably already too late to get a place in line that will actually allow you to make the trade. On 5/28/2014 5:41 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Which is too bad in a way. I just left the "local" full service camera store, (unfortunately they are not going to start stocking Pentax again any time soon), played with a Sony a7 ff and was blown away by the EVF. It's really very good. If only the shutter wasn't so damned loud and the rest of the performance wasn't so comprised, also got to play with a Fuji Pro X 1, and while the hybrid Optical/Electronic viewfinder is intriguing, after looking at the Sony the electronic side of the viewfinder was just rough and annoying. The rest of the camera was just, retro, beautiful. Hell I'm close enough to New York that I could take either my *ist-Ds or D in and take advantage of the offer. On 5/28/2014 10:44 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention. The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the manus hoped for, is it? On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Ann, still got your *istD? Samsung Will Give You a Free NX30 if You #DitchTheDSLR on June 4th in NYC http://petapixel.com/2014/05/28/samsung-will-give-free-nx30-ditchthedslr-june-4th-nyc/#more-136862 Something tells me you may want to be in line early. :) -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
Quoting Don Guthrie : And yet the K-01 takes some very lovely photos. EVF or no. I'm sure it does. It has (I think) the same sensor as the K-5. I have two problems with the K-01, the first (not surprisingly) being the lack of a viewfinder - my experience with the Q is that it can be impossible to compose accurately in strong sunlight and I'd expect the same problem with the K-01. My second problem is the decision to adopt the K mount. Apart from adding to the bulk of the camera, it means that you can't get various adapters to fit a wide range of older lenses, as you can with other mirrorless cameras. I would have preferred the designers to have followed a similar approach to the m43 designers and adopted a short lens registration distance while allowed the fitting of K-mount lenses via an AF adapter (assuming that approach would have been technically feasible). Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 11 Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 19:36:50 -0400 From: "P.J. Alling" To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC Message-ID:<53867312.6000...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 5/28/2014 7:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Bruce Walker: Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention. The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the manus hoped for, is it? I wonder why that is. Quite a few on this list have gone down the mirrorless path and I think Ricoh/Pentax is missing out by failing to get a competitive mirrorless camera to market (competitive with the Fuji et al offerings, that is). They've shown they have the technical know-how with the K-01 and Q series. Regardless, what is the point of showing off your superior technical prowess by creating a camera for a tiny market? Especially if you are Pentax and can't afford to (a) dilute your R&D and production resources, and (b) spend hard-won money for poor returns. Look what happened with the K-01. I'm fairly sure I've bought my last DSLR (K-5) and I expect to be in the market for something like the Fuji X-E2 about this time next year. If Ricoh can't oblige by then, I'll be changing systems (partly, anyway). I went for 6 years between Pentax cameras (K20D -> K-3). There's no way I will attempt to predict what Pentax/Ricoh might be offering in 2020. But given my current direction, my next is likely to be a successor to the 645D, which is still an SLR afaik. Let's be honest. The K-01 was a minimal R&D effort. It was basically a K30 without a Pentaprism/mirrorbos, that sold for about the same price as a K30. The biggest cost to Pentax was hiring Marc Newsom to put lipstick on the pig. If Pentax had simply copied the styling cues from a Kodak Instamatic 100 they would have had a bigger seller, with a higher profit margin. If Pentax had actually spent some R&D money on fitting an EVF into it, at least as good as the one in the Fuji Pro X 1, everyone who owns a collection of Pentax lenses would have bought one as a second body, to hell with what it looked like. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
Actually it uses the same version of the Prime image processor as the K-30 produces 12 bit per pixel data files so I expect that it actually uses the version of the sensor that is in the K-30 which was supposed to in the same family but not identical to that in the K-5. On 5/29/2014 6:14 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Don Guthrie : And yet the K-01 takes some very lovely photos. EVF or no. I'm sure it does. It has (I think) the same sensor as the K-5. I have two problems with the K-01, the first (not surprisingly) being the lack of a viewfinder - my experience with the Q is that it can be impossible to compose accurately in strong sunlight and I'd expect the same problem with the K-01. My second problem is the decision to adopt the K mount. Apart from adding to the bulk of the camera, it means that you can't get various adapters to fit a wide range of older lenses, as you can with other mirrorless cameras. I would have preferred the designers to have followed a similar approach to the m43 designers and adopted a short lens registration distance while allowed the fitting of K-mount lenses via an AF adapter (assuming that approach would have been technically feasible). Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 11 Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 19:36:50 -0400 From: "P.J. Alling" To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC Message-ID:<53867312.6000...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 5/28/2014 7:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Bruce Walker: Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention. The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the manus hoped for, is it? I wonder why that is. Quite a few on this list have gone down the mirrorless path and I think Ricoh/Pentax is missing out by failing to get a competitive mirrorless camera to market (competitive with the Fuji et al offerings, that is). They've shown they have the technical know-how with the K-01 and Q series. Regardless, what is the point of showing off your superior technical prowess by creating a camera for a tiny market? Especially if you are Pentax and can't afford to (a) dilute your R&D and production resources, and (b) spend hard-won money for poor returns. Look what happened with the K-01. I'm fairly sure I've bought my last DSLR (K-5) and I expect to be in the market for something like the Fuji X-E2 about this time next year. If Ricoh can't oblige by then, I'll be changing systems (partly, anyway). I went for 6 years between Pentax cameras (K20D -> K-3). There's no way I will attempt to predict what Pentax/Ricoh might be offering in 2020. But given my current direction, my next is likely to be a successor to the 645D, which is still an SLR afaik. Let's be honest. The K-01 was a minimal R&D effort. It was basically a K30 without a Pentaprism/mirrorbos, that sold for about the same price as a K30. The biggest cost to Pentax was hiring Marc Newsom to put lipstick on the pig. If Pentax had simply copied the styling cues from a Kodak Instamatic 100 they would have had a bigger seller, with a higher profit margin. If Pentax had actually spent some R&D money on fitting an EVF into it, at least as good as the one in the Fuji Pro X 1, everyone who owns a collection of Pentax lenses would have bought one as a second body, to hell with what it looked like. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
And yet the K-01 takes some very lovely photos. EVF or no. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 11 Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 19:36:50 -0400 From: "P.J. Alling" To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC Message-ID:<53867312.6000...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 5/28/2014 7:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote: >>Quoting Bruce Walker: >> >>>Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention. >>> >>>The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the manus >>>hoped for, is it? >>I wonder why that is. Quite a few on this list have gone down the >>mirrorless path and I think Ricoh/Pentax is missing out by failing to get a >>competitive mirrorless camera to market (competitive with the Fuji et al >>offerings, that is). They've shown they have the technical know-how with >>the K-01 and Q series. >Regardless, what is the point of showing off your superior technical >prowess by creating a camera for a tiny market? Especially if you are >Pentax and can't afford to (a) dilute your R&D and production >resources, and (b) spend hard-won money for poor returns. Look what >happened with the K-01. > > >>I'm fairly sure I've bought my last DSLR (K-5) and I expect to be in the >>market for something like the Fuji X-E2 about this time next year. If Ricoh >>can't oblige by then, I'll be changing systems (partly, anyway). >I went for 6 years between Pentax cameras (K20D -> K-3). There's no >way I will attempt to predict what Pentax/Ricoh might be offering in >2020. But given my current direction, my next is likely to be a >successor to the 645D, which is still an SLR afaik. > Let's be honest. The K-01 was a minimal R&D effort. It was basically a K30 without a Pentaprism/mirrorbos, that sold for about the same price as a K30. The biggest cost to Pentax was hiring Marc Newsom to put lipstick on the pig. If Pentax had simply copied the styling cues from a Kodak Instamatic 100 they would have had a bigger seller, with a higher profit margin. If Pentax had actually spent some R&D money on fitting an EVF into it, at least as good as the one in the Fuji Pro X 1, everyone who owns a collection of Pentax lenses would have bought one as a second body, to hell with what it looked like. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.