Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
Someone asked why I still use Yahoo if I hate it so much? ... I don't really hate it, although it can be a PITA sometimes & their "help" is no help at all. BUT I got the Yahoo account while I was in the National Guard because the Army wanted us to have an account separate from AKO (Army Knowledge Online) which they used for OFFICIAL email communication with soldiers. Just after I retired from the National Guard, the Army decided retirees would no longer have access to AKO if we didn't have a CAC card & access to a government computer on a government network. I had to set up a "forward" file on my AKO account and the only other account I had at the time was the Yahoo one. I still occasionally (rarely) get OFFICIAL email from the Army and it goes to my Yahoo account. As I no longer have any way to get into the AKO account to change the forward file, I *have* to keep the Yahoo account. Plus it IS the backup account I use for PDML in case Roadrunner goes kaput again. I did finally get Thunderbird signed into Yahoo. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
Well, I don't see you complaining about them constantly, Rick. My partner uses Yahoo as well … He doesn't complain about it either. I also have Yahoo accounts. I find them a pain in the butt so I don't use them; I haven't deleted them because there's no real point to that. But I don't worry that they're a pain in the butt, I just ignore them. Same for Gmail. My point is: If you're complaining about something all the time, and there are better alternatives out there, switch over to one of those and be happy. It's worth the pain in the butt then to do what you have to do to move your stuff to something else. G > On Dec 6, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Well, I have 15 years of emails on Yahoo. I often search them for various > reasons. Even if I could migrate them, it would be a PITA. > > Rick > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 23:35 Godfrey DiGiorgi > wrote: > >> I can't for the life of me understand why you continue to use a service >> that you've been saying sucks for an age and a day and constantly gets >> worse. There are plenty of excellent services that do email very reliably >> and without any problems. Just go to one of them and toss the Yahoo stuff. >> >> Same for Thunderbird. There are plenty of excellent email clients that >> don't suck: pick one of them and toss Thunderbird. >> >> Life is too short to waste on ranting about sucky things. :\ >> >> G >> >>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 10:34 AM, John wrote: >>> >>> I think the level of suck Yahoo has descended to must be the other way >> round. Yahoo didn't suck as much before they were acquired. >>> >>> On 12/4/2020 16:09:45, P. J. Alling wrote: They were bought by AT which was bought by SBC who then changed their >> name to AT because all of their customers hated them, and now they're in >> grave financial condition... I like to think Yahoo has something to do with it. On 12/4/2020 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > John wrote: > >> Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me >> to log in >> to Yahoo. > Once every few years I am reminded, to my complete and utter > astonishment, that Yahoo is actually still in business. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
On 12/6/2020 9:13 AM, Rick Womer wrote: > Well, I have 15 years of emails on Yahoo. I have about 25 years of emails stored on my hard drive. I used Eudora Pro as my email client for most of 20 years, and switched to Thunderbird when changes in certificates rendered Eudora useless. -- Dale H. Cook, Pentax K-70, smc Pentax-DA 18-270mm, smc Pentax-D FA Macro 100mm, Rokinon 650Z 650-1300mm https://plymouthcolony.net/photos/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
Well, I have 15 years of emails on Yahoo. I often search them for various reasons. Even if I could migrate them, it would be a PITA. Rick On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 23:35 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I can't for the life of me understand why you continue to use a service > that you've been saying sucks for an age and a day and constantly gets > worse. There are plenty of excellent services that do email very reliably > and without any problems. Just go to one of them and toss the Yahoo stuff. > > Same for Thunderbird. There are plenty of excellent email clients that > don't suck: pick one of them and toss Thunderbird. > > Life is too short to waste on ranting about sucky things. :\ > > G > > > On Dec 5, 2020, at 10:34 AM, John wrote: > > > > I think the level of suck Yahoo has descended to must be the other way > round. Yahoo didn't suck as much before they were acquired. > > > > On 12/4/2020 16:09:45, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> They were bought by AT which was bought by SBC who then changed their > name to AT because all of their customers hated them, and now they're in > grave financial condition... > >> I like to think Yahoo has something to do with it. > >> On 12/4/2020 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >>> John wrote: > >>> > Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me > to log in > to Yahoo. > >>> Once every few years I am reminded, to my complete and utter > >>> astonishment, that Yahoo is actually still in business. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
> On Dec 5, 2020, at 8:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> On Dec 5, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> ... >> Life is too short to waste on ranting about sucky things. :\ > If I ever needed proof that you aren’t Jewish, I have it now. No proof required. I'm Siciliano-Napolitano heritage; Zen Buddhist by practice. :) G — No matter where you go, there you are. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
I can't for the life of me understand why you continue to use a service that you've been saying sucks for an age and a day and constantly gets worse. There are plenty of excellent services that do email very reliably and without any problems. Just go to one of them and toss the Yahoo stuff. Same for Thunderbird. There are plenty of excellent email clients that don't suck: pick one of them and toss Thunderbird. Life is too short to waste on ranting about sucky things. :\ G > On Dec 5, 2020, at 10:34 AM, John wrote: > > I think the level of suck Yahoo has descended to must be the other way round. > Yahoo didn't suck as much before they were acquired. > > On 12/4/2020 16:09:45, P. J. Alling wrote: >> They were bought by AT which was bought by SBC who then changed their name >> to AT because all of their customers hated them, and now they're in grave >> financial condition... >> I like to think Yahoo has something to do with it. >> On 12/4/2020 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >>> John wrote: >>> Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in to Yahoo. >>> Once every few years I am reminded, to my complete and utter >>> astonishment, that Yahoo is actually still in business. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
> On Dec 5, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > > Life is too short to waste on ranting about sucky things. :\ If I ever needed proof that you aren’t Jewish, I have it now. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
I think the level of suck Yahoo has descended to must be the other way round. Yahoo didn't suck as much before they were acquired. On 12/4/2020 16:09:45, P. J. Alling wrote: They were bought by AT which was bought by SBC who then changed their name to AT because all of their customers hated them, and now they're in grave financial condition... I like to think Yahoo has something to do with it. On 12/4/2020 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in to Yahoo. Once every few years I am reminded, to my complete and utter astonishment, that Yahoo is actually still in business. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
On Dec 4, 2020, at 10:43, John wrote: > > Do you have a Yahoo email account using Thunderbird for pop.mail? Well, Yeehaw! does IMAP as well; it's been ages since I used Tbird (just said *Hell No* to Window$ several decades ago), so idunno if Tbird will do IMPA. -- Oh a bit of Nelson's blood wouldn't do us any harm And we'll all hang on behind -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
They were bought by AT which was bought by SBC who then changed their name to AT because all of their customers hated them, and now they're in grave financial condition... I like to think Yahoo has something to do with it. On 12/4/2020 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in to Yahoo. Once every few years I am reminded, to my complete and utter astonishment, that Yahoo is actually still in business. -- Any idiot can shoot with a Canon, Nikon, or Sony, it takes a special kind of idiot to use a Pentax. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
John wrote: >Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in >to Yahoo. Once every few years I am reminded, to my complete and utter astonishment, that Yahoo is actually still in business. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
Do you have a Yahoo email account using Thunderbird for pop.mail? On 12/4/2020 08:34:30, Dale H. Cook wrote: On 12/3/2020 11:48 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > Hhmmm. I've just updated to 78.5.1 and have not experienced any of > those problems. Same here. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
On 12/3/2020 22:17:24, ann sanfedele wrote: I knew there was I reason I keep declining the update... but don't you tell it what fonts and background colors to use? ann On 12/3/2020 9:36 PM, John wrote: Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in to Yahoo. Looking online I found that you can selectively color individual icons. I don't want to selectively color individual icons. That's BULLSHIT! The Yahoo problem is bigger. Every time Thunderbird checks for new emails (about once every 10 minutes for as long as I keep Thunderbird open) it pops up a browser window with a login prompt that has *NO CONTROLS*. The browser window is on top of every other window I might have open at that point. If I attempt to log in by selecting my Yahoo ID it comes back with a message telling me to "enable cookies in my browser and try again". I have cookies enabled in my browsers, and I have all of the scripts I need to use Yahoo as webmail enabled in NoScript. And Yahoo are complete shit at technical support, even if you can dig down far enough to find a way to contact them. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
I'm not having it try to get me to log into Yahoo, it did change the default colors and font, and reinstalled the broken reply button, (I had to install an plugin to get rid of it, since they helpfully removed that option), but eh, it's a free tool so I'm not going to complain too much. I'm sure there's a setting or plugin to give control over the Yahoo nonsense, but I can't tell you what it is, since I don't have that particular problem. I do wish that their programming team would actually read the email standard and adhere to it instead of making things work the way /they/ think it should work. On 12/3/2020 9:36 PM, John wrote: Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in to Yahoo. -- Any idiot can shoot with a Canon, Nikon, or Sony, it takes a special kind of idiot to use a Pentax. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
On 12/3/2020 11:48 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > Hhmmm. I've just updated to 78.5.1 and have not experienced any of > those problems. Same here. -- Dale H. Cook, Pentax K-70, smc Pentax-DA 18-270mm, smc Pentax-D FA Macro 100mm, Rokinon 650Z 650-1300mm https://plymouthcolony.net/photos/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
Hhmmm. I've just updated to 78.5.1 and have not experienced any of those problems. -p On 12/3/2020 8:36 PM, John wrote: Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in to Yahoo. -- Paul Sorenson Studio1941 Sooner or later "different" scares people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
I knew there was I reason I keep declining the update... but don't you tell it what fonts and background colors to use? ann On 12/3/2020 9:36 PM, John wrote: Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in to Yahoo. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!
Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in to Yahoo. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
