Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/08/2015 2:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Thanks, Bill. It wasn't one of my first choices either, as I mentioned; I passed over it a couple of times. But all the 4 and 5-star shots from this set are in quarantine pending a magazine submission and I was looking for something else I could post to keep the social media wheels lubricated, both for myself and the model. (She starts to get antsy if I don't supply her with new retouches now and then. :) ) Send her my way. I could probably help her out, providing she doesn't mind bad pictures. When she starts doing the travelling model gig, I'll put her in touch. :) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
On 03/08/2015 2:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Thanks, Bill. It wasn't one of my first choices either, as I mentioned; I passed over it a couple of times. But all the 4 and 5-star shots from this set are in quarantine pending a magazine submission and I was looking for something else I could post to keep the social media wheels lubricated, both for myself and the model. (She starts to get antsy if I don't supply her with new retouches now and then. :) ) Send her my way. I could probably help her out, providing she doesn't mind bad pictures. But it's taken on a bit of a life of its own, getting good notice on ello and Flickr. You just never know what will take off. On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: [...] This is almost an aside, and should go into another post, but the image in question is quite nice, though not one of the best pictures I've seen you do of Dorrie. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
On 03/08/2015 2:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Thanks, Bill. It wasn't one of my first choices either, as I mentioned; I passed over it a couple of times. But all the 4 and 5-star shots from this set are in quarantine pending a magazine submission and I was looking for something else I could post to keep the social media wheels lubricated, both for myself and the model. (She starts to get antsy if I don't supply her with new retouches now and then. :) ) Send he my way. I could probably help her out, providing she doesn't mind bad pictures. But it's taken on a bit of a life of its own, getting good notice on ello and Flickr. You just never know what will take off. On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: [...] This is almost an aside, and should go into another post, but the image in question is quite nice, though not one of the best pictures I've seen you do of Dorrie. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
If one of the purposes of art is to provoke thought and discussion, then I feel pretty good about my image. :) On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I think that it's a very grown up thing to discuss sexual exploitation, what it is, and what it means to individuals and to society. Cheers, frank On 2 August, 2015 5:37:03 PM EDT, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Simply beautiful. Analyzing it beyond that and agonizing over the ways we view the human form is utter nonsense. Grow up people! Paul via phone On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and decided to keep the experiment. NSFW (nudity). http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792 Model: Dorrie Mack K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100 Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod), with 15 degree grid and barn doors. Comments really are welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
Thanks, Bill. It wasn't one of my first choices either, as I mentioned; I passed over it a couple of times. But all the 4 and 5-star shots from this set are in quarantine pending a magazine submission and I was looking for something else I could post to keep the social media wheels lubricated, both for myself and the model. (She starts to get antsy if I don't supply her with new retouches now and then. :) ) But it's taken on a bit of a life of its own, getting good notice on ello and Flickr. You just never know what will take off. On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: [...] This is almost an aside, and should go into another post, but the image in question is quite nice, though not one of the best pictures I've seen you do of Dorrie. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
On 02/08/2015 2:14 PM, Knarf wrote: So there's a photo of a woman naked above the waist and the viewer has sexualized her? Are you serious? If you see sexualization, then that is what you see. It may not be what someone else sees. Bruce took that photo knowing that part of its appeal would be sexual. And Dorrie agreed to have the photo taken, knowing that sex was a part of it. Were you there? Does that mean Bruce exploited Dorrie? No. By agreeing to be photographed in that way (indeed, being part of the creative process) was Dorrie being exploited? Yeah, I think so. Generally speaking, exploitation doesn't involve consent. Not by Bruce but by a society that puts a value on the sexualization and objectification of women. Being a consenting part of the process doesn't mean one isn't being exploited. Now it's my turn to ask if you are serious. Exploitation: the action or fact of treating someone unfairly in order to benefit from their work. Was the model treated unfairly? Did Bruce have to threaten her or drug her into a stupor to get her to pose? The whole exploitation thing is a construct of people who want to control others through shaming them. If a person wants to be exploited, they will be exploited. Oops, if they want to be exploited, that takes away the unfair part of the definition. We're all socialized to see this as normal and acceptable but does that mean it's okay? If it's normal and acceptable, then by definition it's okay. Men and women are portrayed far differently by the media. Yes, men can be sexualized, but in a very different way, and certainly far less frequently than women. My problem isn't necessarily with this individual photo or with Bruce. It's that this is a part of the exploitation and objectification that goes on every day on TV, in movies, magazines, and advertising of all kinds. Women ~are~ treated differently than men especially in sexual portrayals, and to the extent that this photo is a part of that, I feel very uncomfortable. If a person is comfortable with the process, then your discomfort is your problem, and is something that you are trying to project onto them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
On 2 Aug 2015, at 20:29, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/08/2015 9:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Thank you very much for your kind words and support, Frank! If it is of any comfort to you, the model, Dorrie, fully participates in and approves of every part of the image creation process. I think this is where the whole exploitation via sexualization and objectification argument falls on it's face. When the subject is a willing participant in the process, who is being exploited? [...] There is a very tired old argument that art was invented to get women out of their clothes. [...] I think that's slightly different from what we see here. The art thing may be similar to bower birds building their wacky bowers to attract females. Perhaps it is true, perhaps it isn't, but the argument ignores the reality that the subject has to be a willing participant in the process for the process to happen, which effectively torpedoes the whole exploitation argument. Not really because the way you've presented it is rather shallow and doesn't take into account all sorts of factors, such as economic power, which tend on average to reduce women's options compared to men's in many ways and to normalise other options, such as exploiting their body. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
If you see sexualization, then that is what you see. It may not be what someone else sees. She's showing her tits, Bill. Please show me an adult who doesn't think that's sexual! At this point I'm not even saying it's bad, but to deny it's sexual? Generally speaking, exploitation doesn't involve consent. I guess it depends on what consent means, doesn't it? Power, who has it and who doesn't, has a huge part to play whether one can be said to truly consent. Do think that blacks working on the railways back in the '40s and 50's were exploited? They did demeaning work, never rose to supervisory positions yet they got decent pay compared to many in their community. Whites got paid much more and had much better working conditions. The fact that blacks agreed to the jobs and pay doesn't mean they weren't exploited. If it's normal and acceptable, then by definition it's okay. By your definition slavery was okay. If a person is comfortable with the process, then your discomfort is your problem, and is something that you are trying to project onto them. Actually I think the problem is that so many are comfortable with this. I think the fact that so many don't see a disparity between portrayals of men and women in the media is the problem. I think the fact that so many see the disparity and are okay with it is the problem. Cheers, frank On 2 August, 2015 4:31:25 PM EDT, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/08/2015 2:14 PM, Knarf wrote: So there's a photo of a woman naked above the waist and the viewer has sexualized her? Are you serious? If you see sexualization, then that is what you see. It may not be what someone else sees. Bruce took that photo knowing that part of its appeal would be sexual. And Dorrie agreed to have the photo taken, knowing that sex was a part of it. Were you there? Does that mean Bruce exploited Dorrie? No. By agreeing to be photographed in that way (indeed, being part of the creative process) was Dorrie being exploited? Yeah, I think so. Generally speaking, exploitation doesn't involve consent. Not by Bruce but by a society that puts a value on the sexualization and objectification of women. Being a consenting part of the process doesn't mean one isn't being exploited. Now it's my turn to ask if you are serious. Exploitation: the action or fact of treating someone unfairly in order to benefit from their work. Was the model treated unfairly? Did Bruce have to threaten her or drug her into a stupor to get her to pose? The whole exploitation thing is a construct of people who want to control others through shaming them. If a person wants to be exploited, they will be exploited. Oops, if they want to be exploited, that takes away the unfair part of the definition. We're all socialized to see this as normal and acceptable but does that mean it's okay? If it's normal and acceptable, then by definition it's okay. Men and women are portrayed far differently by the media. Yes, men can be sexualized, but in a very different way, and certainly far less frequently than women. My problem isn't necessarily with this individual photo or with Bruce. It's that this is a part of the exploitation and objectification that goes on every day on TV, in movies, magazines, and advertising of all kinds. Women ~are~ treated differently than men especially in sexual portrayals, and to the extent that this photo is a part of that, I feel very uncomfortable. If a person is comfortable with the process, then your discomfort is your problem, and is something that you are trying to project onto them. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
On 01/08/2015 9:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Thank you very much for your kind words and support, Frank! If it is of any comfort to you, the model, Dorrie, fully participates in and approves of every part of the image creation process. I think this is where the whole exploitation via sexualization and objectification argument falls on it's face. When the subject is a willing participant in the process, who is being exploited? Who is sexualizing the model? Is it the photographer who has taken a picture of the model? The artist who sketches or paints a likeness of the model? Or is it the viewer who sexualizes and objectifies the model with his or her own preconceptions? There is a very tired old argument that art was invented to get women out of their clothes. Perhaps it is true, perhaps it isn't, but the argument ignores the reality that the subject has to be a willing participant in the process for the process to happen, which effectively torpedoes the whole exploitation argument. This is almost an aside, and should go into another post, but the image in question is quite nice, though not one of the best pictures I've seen you do of Dorrie. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
Simply beautiful. Analyzing it beyond that and agonizing over the ways we view the human form is utter nonsense. Grow up people! Paul via phone On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and decided to keep the experiment. NSFW (nudity). http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792 Model: Dorrie Mack K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100 Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod), with 15 degree grid and barn doors. Comments really are welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
I think that it's a very grown up thing to discuss sexual exploitation, what it is, and what it means to individuals and to society. Cheers, frank On 2 August, 2015 5:37:03 PM EDT, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Simply beautiful. Analyzing it beyond that and agonizing over the ways we view the human form is utter nonsense. Grow up people! Paul via phone On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and decided to keep the experiment. NSFW (nudity). http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792 Model: Dorrie Mack K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100 Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod), with 15 degree grid and barn doors. Comments really are welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
So there's a photo of a woman naked above the waist and the viewer has sexualized her? Are you serious? Bruce took that photo knowing that part of its appeal would be sexual. And Dorrie agreed to have the photo taken, knowing that sex was a part of it. Does that mean Bruce exploited Dorrie? No. By agreeing to be photographed in that way (indeed, being part of the creative process) was Dorrie being exploited? Yeah, I think so. Not by Bruce but by a society that puts a value on the sexualization and objectification of women. Being a consenting part of the process doesn't mean one isn't being exploited. We're all socialized to see this as normal and acceptable but does that mean it's okay? Men and women are portrayed far differently by the media. Yes, men can be sexualized, but in a very different way, and certainly far less frequently than women. My problem isn't necessarily with this individual photo or with Bruce. It's that this is a part of the exploitation and objectification that goes on every day on TV, in movies, magazines, and advertising of all kinds. Women ~are~ treated differently than men especially in sexual portrayals, and to the extent that this photo is a part of that, I feel very uncomfortable. Thanks for listening, frank On 2 August, 2015 3:28:59 PM EDT, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/08/2015 9:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Thank you very much for your kind words and support, Frank! If it is of any comfort to you, the model, Dorrie, fully participates in and approves of every part of the image creation process. I think this is where the whole exploitation via sexualization and objectification argument falls on it's face. When the subject is a willing participant in the process, who is being exploited? Who is sexualizing the model? Is it the photographer who has taken a picture of the model? The artist who sketches or paints a likeness of the model? Or is it the viewer who sexualizes and objectifies the model with his or her own preconceptions? There is a very tired old argument that art was invented to get women out of their clothes. Perhaps it is true, perhaps it isn't, but the argument ignores the reality that the subject has to be a willing participant in the process for the process to happen, which effectively torpedoes the whole exploitation argument. This is almost an aside, and should go into another post, but the image in question is quite nice, though not one of the best pictures I've seen you do of Dorrie. bill -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
Thank you very much for your kind words and support, Frank! If it is of any comfort to you, the model, Dorrie, fully participates in and approves of every part of the image creation process. We discuss shoot ideas, and what we are each comfortable with. This is decidedly not a one-sided thing where, for example, I would dictate how I want her to pose and what to wear and she passively submits to it. The majority of the poses are hers. I encourage her to participate in the editing (ie image selection) process post-shoot. I give her veto rights over anything that she deems outside her comfort zone. I accept but don't feel bound by her shot selection suggestions as well. As the photographer and artist, final editing decisions are mine. Dorrie is very broad-minded and an artist in her own right. To give you an indication, her favourite artist is Egon Schiele. She attends life drawing classes to improve her own painting skills, and I suspect swipe posing ideas. :) But I guess I shouldn't be comforting you anyway, probably the opposite. Afflicting the comfortable? :) On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I struggle with these photos because I feel uncomfortable with their sexualization and objectification of the subject. But I can't deny their technical and artistic brilliance. In the end I have to admit that it's quite beautiful, which causes more inner conflict because the feminist-ally in me tells me I should feel shame. What's a lefty to do? Nice shot! Cheers, frank On 29 July, 2015 4:39:50 PM EDT, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and decided to keep the experiment. NSFW (nudity). http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792 Model: Dorrie Mack K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100 Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod), with 15 degree grid and barn doors. Comments really are welcome. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO ~ Shadow play
I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and decided to keep the experiment. NSFW (nudity). http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792 Model: Dorrie Mack K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100 Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod), with 15 degree grid and barn doors. Comments really are welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Shadow play
I struggle with these photos because I feel uncomfortable with their sexualization and objectification of the subject. But I can't deny their technical and artistic brilliance. In the end I have to admit that it's quite beautiful, which causes more inner conflict because the feminist-ally in me tells me I should feel shame. What's a lefty to do? Nice shot! Cheers, frank On 29 July, 2015 4:39:50 PM EDT, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and decided to keep the experiment. NSFW (nudity). http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792 Model: Dorrie Mack K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100 Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod), with 15 degree grid and barn doors. Comments really are welcome. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A Brief And Gloriously Naughty History Of Early Erotica In Art (NSFW) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/a-brief-and-gloriously-naughty-history-of-erotica-in-art_55b65df9e4b0224d8832ecb9? It's been around for a long, long time. On 7/29/2015 10:35 PM, Knarf wrote: I struggle with these photos because I feel uncomfortable with their sexualization and objectification of the subject. But I can't deny their technical and artistic brilliance. In the end I have to admit that it's quite beautiful, which causes more inner conflict because the feminist-ally in me tells me I should feel shame. What's a lefty to do? Nice shot! Cheers, frank On 29 July, 2015 4:39:50 PM EDT, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and decided to keep the experiment. NSFW (nudity). http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792 Model: Dorrie Mack K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100 Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod), with 15 degree grid and barn doors. Comments really are welcome. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shadow Play n Two Parts
Thanks for looking Dan. P.S. I have been enjoying your island shots, since I am in the land of snow these days. Keep them coming. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 13 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:14:06 -0500 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Shadow Play n Two Parts Message-ID: caomwt1y3gomzxhksqh3skr0mvux2-qhuhjqwadq3z8nggjw...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Both are quite interesting and effective. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Two BWs in the abstract motif. Comments welcomed http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632872580537/ They look better on the Black Background -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Both intriguing. I prefer 54540; it's restful. On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Two BWs in the abstract motif. Comments welcomed http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632872580537/ They look better on the Black Background -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Shadow Play n Two Parts
The high key rendering works very well here. Like 'em both a lot! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com Sent: February 27, 2013 2/27/13 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Shadow Play n Two Parts Two BWs in the abstract motif. Comments welcomed http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632872580537/ They look better on the Black Background -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shadow Play n Two Parts
Thanks Bruce, Yes one is chaotic and the the other more classical in curving form. Maybe I should crop the chaotic one hmm. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 12 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:54:22 -0500 From: Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Shadow Play n Two Parts Message-ID: CAJUU0CfWpi=xsgprbxkhqczeqa2fcttyzaz8wwiqf5op8d1...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Both intriguing. I prefer 54540; it's restful. On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com wrote: Two BWs in the abstract motif. Comments welcomed http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632872580537/ They look better on the Black Background -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Shadow Play n Two Parts
Two BWs in the abstract motif. Comments welcomed http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632872580537/ They look better on the Black Background -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shadow Play n Two Parts
Both are quite interesting and effective. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Two BWs in the abstract motif. Comments welcomed http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632872580537/ They look better on the Black Background -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shadow Play n Two Parts
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013, Don Guthrie wrote: Two BWs in the abstract motif. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632872580537/ Nice! I like the second one better, first one seems a bit busy. (Not that there's anything wrong with busy, but my eye doesn't seem to know where to go in the first picture.) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shadow play
It's an interesting photo, and I love shadows. The top half of the image is -very- dark, though, and somehow that darkness seems to bleed over onto the photographer (his dark hair doesn't help!). I would be tempted to play with this a bit in PS to open up the top a bit, and introduce some contrast between the photographer's head and the background. Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never posted a picture before. Taken with my ancient Optio 230 at the Experience Music Project building in Seattle, Washington. http://www.pbase.com/lordjames/image/40931121 Jim A. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Shadow play
On 17/3/05, Jim Apilado, discombobulated, unleashed: Never posted a picture before. Taken with my ancient Optio 230 at the Experience Music Project building in Seattle, Washington. http://www.pbase.com/lordjames/image/40931121 Jim A. Yeah, I like it. Nice work. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Shadow play
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Jim Apilado wrote: Never posted a picture before. Taken with my ancient Optio 230 at the Experience Music Project building in Seattle, Washington. http://www.pbase.com/lordjames/image/40931121 I like the composition, the theme and the colour of the graffiti background (and the reflection on the shirt). I have said repeatedly I have a bad monitor, but has the tool (camera) failed you in terms of latitude? Kostas
Re: Shadow play
The camera is OK. If it were not an auto everything, I would have done adjustments. I did a little on PS. Jim A. On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Jim Apilado wrote: Never posted a picture before. Taken with my ancient Optio 230 at the Experience Music Project building in Seattle, Washington. http://www.pbase.com/lordjames/image/40931121 I like the composition, the theme and the colour of the graffiti background (and the reflection on the shirt). I have said repeatedly I have a bad monitor, but has the tool (camera) failed you in terms of latitude? Kostas
Re: Shadow play
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:47:10 -0800, Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never posted a picture before. Taken with my ancient Optio 230 at the Experience Music Project building in Seattle, Washington. http://www.pbase.com/lordjames/image/40931121 Jim A. Very dynamic photo! The shadow works great with the subject - very well caught. For some reason the subject seems to be artificially separated from the rest of the photo - is that some digital or PS effect? It's kind of weird. Overall, I like the photo, however. Very well composed. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Shadow play
Never posted a picture before. Taken with my ancient Optio 230 at the Experience Music Project building in Seattle, Washington. http://www.pbase.com/lordjames/image/40931121 Jim A.
