Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
Have you guys seen what mint spotmatics sell for now? like $20 on ebay its unbeleivable low On 4/5/2017 6:15 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: My Mamiya 1000TL died about then. I had been shooting with it for years and had acquired four M42 lenses. So I went to buy a Spotmatic only to find my camera store had only the new Pentax K cameras. If the counter guy had explained the screw mount adapter I probably would have gone for a Pentax K. But he didn't, so I bought a Fuji 801 M42 camera. Good technology and I probably shot over 100,000 frames with it over ten years or so and made quite a bit of money. Finally got my Pentaxes used in the late '80s. First an H3v, then a bunch of Spotmatics and Spotmatic Fs. I made up for lost time. Even had an all black Spotmatic motor drive. Sold that beauty for big bucks to a guy in Japan but still have my other M42 Pentax cameras. No Ks, but an LX and an MX. Paul via phone On Apr 5, 2017, at 5:36 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Thu, Apr 6, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Darren Addy wrote: On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:11 PM, John Francis wrote: I still have the MX I bought only a year later. I've often wondered why Pentax introduced two entirely new body ranges so close together - they must have had the M-series bodies well on the way to production by the time the KM/KX/K2 were released. The answer is Market Forces. If you will recall, everyone made big body SLRs until Olympus shook up the world with the introduction of the OM-1 system. http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/olympusom1n2/om1/ The Pentax M series was clearly a response to that. That's always been my understanding, too. But as John pointed out, the M series appeared only about a year after the K series. That's a very short time frame for development and production of a new model. If the M series was a response to the Olympus OM series, Pentax must have had prior knowledge that the OMs were coming. A spy at Olympus, perhaps? :-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
I think the KM and KX cameras were pretty much seen as interim cameras, the KM is pretty much a next generation Spotmatic F with a different, actually simpler, as far as open aperture metering is concerned, to implement lens mount. I'm not sure that the KX is all that much different either, the meter is drop in module, (the Spotmatic F, KM, and K1000 can pretty much exchange flex boards with minor modifications and they all work. It was one way to keep your SPF fully functioning if the meter somehow died, get a K1000 donor board. I'll bet the shutters and most of the mechanical parts are also pretty much the same too for the original K1000 vs the SPF as well, except for the lens related parts of course. Thinking about it I can see how the original push mechanism to stop down the lens could be almost directly used to push an armature that would move a lever up to allow the lens to stop down. On 4/5/2017 5:36 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Thu, Apr 6, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Darren Addy wrote: On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:11 PM, John Francis wrote: I still have the MX I bought only a year later. I've often wondered why Pentax introduced two entirely new body ranges so close together - they must have had the M-series bodies well on the way to production by the time the KM/KX/K2 were released. The answer is Market Forces. If you will recall, everyone made big body SLRs until Olympus shook up the world with the introduction of the OM-1 system. http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/olympusom1n2/om1/ The Pentax M series was clearly a response to that. That's always been my understanding, too. But as John pointed out, the M series appeared only about a year after the K series. That's a very short time frame for development and production of a new model. If the M series was a response to the Olympus OM series, Pentax must have had prior knowledge that the OMs were coming. A spy at Olympus, perhaps? :-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
My Mamiya 1000TL died about then. I had been shooting with it for years and had acquired four M42 lenses. So I went to buy a Spotmatic only to find my camera store had only the new Pentax K cameras. If the counter guy had explained the screw mount adapter I probably would have gone for a Pentax K. But he didn't, so I bought a Fuji 801 M42 camera. Good technology and I probably shot over 100,000 frames with it over ten years or so and made quite a bit of money. Finally got my Pentaxes used in the late '80s. First an H3v, then a bunch of Spotmatics and Spotmatic Fs. I made up for lost time. Even had an all black Spotmatic motor drive. Sold that beauty for big bucks to a guy in Japan but still have my other M42 Pentax cameras. No Ks, but an LX and an MX. Paul via phone > On Apr 5, 2017, at 5:36 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:11 PM, John Francis wrote: >>> >>> I still have the MX I bought only a year later. >>> >>> I've often wondered why Pentax introduced two entirely new >>> body ranges so close together - they must have had the M-series >>> bodies well on the way to production by the time the KM/KX/K2 >>> were released. >> >> The answer is Market Forces. If you will recall, everyone made big >> body SLRs until Olympus shook up the world with the introduction of >> the OM-1 system. >> http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/olympusom1n2/om1/ >> The Pentax M series was clearly a response to that. >> > > > That's always been my understanding, too. But as John pointed out, the > M series appeared only about a year after the K series. That's a very > short time frame for development and production of a new model. If the > M series was a response to the Olympus OM series, Pentax must have had > prior knowledge that the OMs were coming. A spy at Olympus, perhaps? > :-) > > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > -- > -- > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
On Thu, Apr 6, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:11 PM, John Francis wrote: > > > > I still have the MX I bought only a year later. > > > > I've often wondered why Pentax introduced two entirely new > > body ranges so close together - they must have had the M-series > > bodies well on the way to production by the time the KM/KX/K2 > > were released. > > The answer is Market Forces. If you will recall, everyone made big > body SLRs until Olympus shook up the world with the introduction of > the OM-1 system. > http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/olympusom1n2/om1/ > The Pentax M series was clearly a response to that. > That's always been my understanding, too. But as John pointed out, the M series appeared only about a year after the K series. That's a very short time frame for development and production of a new model. If the M series was a response to the Olympus OM series, Pentax must have had prior knowledge that the OMs were coming. A spy at Olympus, perhaps? :-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
Beaucoup BIG Bucks! According to the United States Government, Bureau Of Labor Statistics: 19752017 K2 $485.75 $2,199.45 KX $319.25 $1,445.54 KM $265.50 $1,202.17 50mm f/1.2 $287.50 $1,301.78 50mm F/1.4 $179.25 $ 811.63 55mm f/1.8 $112.50 $ 509.39 On 4/4/2017 21:55, Larry wrote: Very cool, I wonder what those prices translate to 2017 dollars On April 4, 2017 12:38:13 PM PDT, Darren Addy wrote: From the November 1975 issue of Camera 35 magazine, when the K-mount system was new, reviews of the K2, KX, and KM. Page 1: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33028490253/in/dateposted-public/ Page 2: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33712560401/in/dateposted-public/ Page 3: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33800924456/in/dateposted-public/ Enjoy the trip down memory lane! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Larry wrote: > Very cool, I wonder what those prices translate to 2017 dollars > > On April 4, 2017 12:38:13 PM PDT, Darren Addy > wrote: > >From the November 1975 issue of Camera 35 magazine, when the K-mount > >system was new, reviews of the K2, KX, and KM. > > > >Page 1: > >https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33028490253/in/dateposted- > public/ > >Page 2: > >https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33712560401/in/dateposted- > public/ > >Page 3: > >https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33800924456/in/dateposted- > public/ > > > >Enjoy the trip down memory lane! > > > >Darren Addy > >Kearney, Nebraska > >-- > >“The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” > >― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above > Larry, Using the inflation calc on the body prices: K2: $2,199.45 KX: $1,445.54 KM: $1,202.17 -Adam -- http://www.mountainfort.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:11 PM, John Francis wrote: > > I still have the MX I bought only a year later. > > I've often wondered why Pentax introduced two entirely new > body ranges so close together - they must have had the M-series > bodies well on the way to production by the time the KM/KX/K2 > were released. The answer is Market Forces. If you will recall, everyone made big body SLRs until Olympus shook up the world with the introduction of the OM-1 system. http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/olympusom1n2/om1/ The Pentax M series was clearly a response to that. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, at 03:24 PM, David Mann wrote: > The K2 dial never bothered me, mainly because I had little need to change > it. I still have one that's slowly deteriorating on the shelf. I can't > bear to let it go despite not using it since I bought the K10D. > I just unearthed mine. I found a couple of batteries that still had good charge, put them in and - wonder of wonders, it still seems to work. However, the ASA dial is either jammed tight or I need another set of fingers to move it... Edit: With a good amount of struggling, I did manage to move it from ASA200 to 100. I can see why you'd only want to use one film speed in this thing. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > Cheers, > Dave > > > On Apr 5, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > > > > Thanks > > > > During my collecting phase (about 10 years ago - I'm over it now :-) ) I > > bought one of each of these. I used the KX for a couple of years before > > digital took over. I really liked that camera. > > > > They're still stashed away in a cupboard so I must get them out and see > > if they still work. > > > > The KX was my favourite of the three. The K2 was nominally the top of > > the line but that film speed setting dial around the lens flange was an > > odd design choice. It invariably seized up and became almost impossible > > to move. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Brian > > > > ++ > > Brian Walters > > Western Sydney Australia > > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, at 05:38 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > >> From the November 1975 issue of Camera 35 magazine, when the K-mount > >> system was new, reviews of the K2, KX, and KM. > >> > >> Page 1: > >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33028490253/in/dateposted-public/ > >> Page 2: > >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33712560401/in/dateposted-public/ > >> Page 3: > >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33800924456/in/dateposted-public/ > >> > >> Enjoy the trip down memory lane! > >> > >> Darren Addy > >> Kearney, Nebraska > >> -- > >> “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” > >> ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above > >> > >> -- -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
The K2 dial never bothered me, mainly because I had little need to change it. I still have one that's slowly deteriorating on the shelf. I can't bear to let it go despite not using it since I bought the K10D. Cheers, Dave > On Apr 5, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > > Thanks > > During my collecting phase (about 10 years ago - I'm over it now :-) ) I > bought one of each of these. I used the KX for a couple of years before > digital took over. I really liked that camera. > > They're still stashed away in a cupboard so I must get them out and see > if they still work. > > The KX was my favourite of the three. The K2 was nominally the top of > the line but that film speed setting dial around the lens flange was an > odd design choice. It invariably seized up and became almost impossible > to move. > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > > On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, at 05:38 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> From the November 1975 issue of Camera 35 magazine, when the K-mount >> system was new, reviews of the K2, KX, and KM. >> >> Page 1: >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33028490253/in/dateposted-public/ >> Page 2: >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33712560401/in/dateposted-public/ >> Page 3: >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33800924456/in/dateposted-public/ >> >> Enjoy the trip down memory lane! >> >> Darren Addy >> Kearney, Nebraska >> -- >> “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” >> ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > -- > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - IMAP accessible web-mail > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
Thanks During my collecting phase (about 10 years ago - I'm over it now :-) ) I bought one of each of these. I used the KX for a couple of years before digital took over. I really liked that camera. They're still stashed away in a cupboard so I must get them out and see if they still work. The KX was my favourite of the three. The K2 was nominally the top of the line but that film speed setting dial around the lens flange was an odd design choice. It invariably seized up and became almost impossible to move. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, at 05:38 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > From the November 1975 issue of Camera 35 magazine, when the K-mount > system was new, reviews of the K2, KX, and KM. > > Page 1: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33028490253/in/dateposted-public/ > Page 2: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33712560401/in/dateposted-public/ > Page 3: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33800924456/in/dateposted-public/ > > Enjoy the trip down memory lane! > > Darren Addy > Kearney, Nebraska > -- > “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” > ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - IMAP accessible web-mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
I still have the MX I bought only a year later. I've often wondered why Pentax introduced two entirely new body ranges so close together - they must have had the M-series bodies well on the way to production by the time the KM/KX/K2 were released. On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 11:59:11AM +1000, Philip Northeast wrote: > I still have my KX mentioned in the article and the 55mm f1.8 lens still > works very well on my K1 > > https://flic.kr/p/szrFPE > > Philip Northeast > > www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au > > On 5/4/17 5:38 am, Darren Addy wrote: > > From the November 1975 issue of Camera 35 magazine, when the K-mount > > system was new, reviews of the K2, KX, and KM. > > > > Page 1: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33028490253/in/dateposted-public/ > > Page 2: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33712560401/in/dateposted-public/ > > Page 3: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33800924456/in/dateposted-public/ > > > > Enjoy the trip down memory lane! > > > > Darren Addy > > Kearney, Nebraska > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
I still have my KX mentioned in the article and the 55mm f1.8 lens still works very well on my K1 https://flic.kr/p/szrFPE Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On 5/4/17 5:38 am, Darren Addy wrote: From the November 1975 issue of Camera 35 magazine, when the K-mount system was new, reviews of the K2, KX, and KM. Page 1: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33028490253/in/dateposted-public/ Page 2: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33712560401/in/dateposted-public/ Page 3: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33800924456/in/dateposted-public/ Enjoy the trip down memory lane! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We Tried It: The Pentax K System
Very cool, I wonder what those prices translate to 2017 dollars On April 4, 2017 12:38:13 PM PDT, Darren Addy wrote: >From the November 1975 issue of Camera 35 magazine, when the K-mount >system was new, reviews of the K2, KX, and KM. > >Page 1: >https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33028490253/in/dateposted-public/ >Page 2: >https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33712560401/in/dateposted-public/ >Page 3: >https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33800924456/in/dateposted-public/ > >Enjoy the trip down memory lane! > >Darren Addy >Kearney, Nebraska >-- >“The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” >― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
We Tried It: The Pentax K System
From the November 1975 issue of Camera 35 magazine, when the K-mount system was new, reviews of the K2, KX, and KM. Page 1: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33028490253/in/dateposted-public/ Page 2: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33712560401/in/dateposted-public/ Page 3: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/33800924456/in/dateposted-public/ Enjoy the trip down memory lane! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
