Re: OT- Another freaking Winter Storm Warning....
Don't St. Bernards carry a barrel of brandy around their necks for medicinal purposes. Definitely don't forget the St. Bernards. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: [...] A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. Lucky you! My wife gave me a toboggan for my 54th birthday and there isn't enough snow here in Nova Scotia to try it out! :-o In that case, send him the toboggan and keep the St. Bernard for yourself. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:38 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: When life gives you snow, go sit in it, have a beer and relax http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643143 I say winter is to be enjoyed and embraced. Nice Canadian shot, Dave! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9 February 2010 07:38, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 8/2/10, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Ha! Yeah BTDT during the first one... But we made our flight to Oz! Batten down the hatches and stay warm and safe. Thanks frank! Go sit out on that freakin patio you built ;-) When life gives you snow, go sit in it, have a beer and relax http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643143 LOL. Love it. I was doing exactly that (but actually on a beach :-) a couple of weeks ago. DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Christian On 2/8/2010 4:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Christianpterali...@aim.com wrote: This is crazy. From the national weather service (which has been freakily accurate with snow totals these past couple of months): ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...10 TO 20 INCHES. A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. What? You've got over 24 hours to prepare. Where's the problem? It's just been one after another after another... And it doesn't snow here! :-) Does global warming make it snow more? I'm so confused... (kidding, dammit, people, I'm kidding!) If I understand how global warming has been explained to me, more snow may be a result. The way I understand it, global warming causes greater variability in weather patterns ... you get the same kinds of weather you always got, but going more towards the extremes. We got worse drought in the southeast for several years, now we're getting more bad winter weather - more frequent snows. Look for summers to get wetter with heavier rains for a while - then it'll cycle back to drought again. Global warming means there's more energy pumped into the weather cycles. It's like hitting a spinning top with a ball peen hammer. The top continues to spin, but it gets a whole lot wobblier. The mathematical model can tell you if you smack it hard enough it will fall over. Just can't tell you where it's going to land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:36 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The way I understand it, global warming causes greater variability in weather patterns ... you get the same kinds of weather you always got, but going more towards the extremes. We got worse drought in the southeast for several years, now we're getting more bad winter weather - more frequent snows. Look for summers to get wetter with heavier rains for a while - then it'll cycle back to drought again. Global warming means there's more energy pumped into the weather cycles. It's like hitting a spinning top with a ball peen hammer. The top continues to spin, but it gets a whole lot wobblier. The mathematical model can tell you if you smack it hard enough it will fall over. Just can't tell you where it's going to land. Not that I want to get into YAGWFW (yet another global warming flame war), it's all about global averages, isn't it? Local weather may be colder or more snowy than usual, but Virginia's snowstorms may be balanced out by the fact that Toronto's winters have been much milder of late than in the past (last year being an exception to that trend). We've had a pretty mild winter this year, with lots of rain and almost not snow. Thirty years ago it would have been much colder and snowier. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: frank theriault On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:36 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The way I understand it, global warming causes greater variability in weather patterns ... you get the same kinds of weather you always got, but going more towards the extremes. We got worse drought in the southeast for several years, now we're getting more bad winter weather - more frequent snows. Look for summers to get wetter with heavier rains for a while - then it'll cycle back to drought again. Global warming means there's more energy pumped into the weather cycles. It's like hitting a spinning top with a ball peen hammer. The top continues to spin, but it gets a whole lot wobblier. The mathematical model can tell you if you smack it hard enough it will fall over. Just can't tell you where it's going to land. Not that I want to get into YAGWFW (yet another global warming flame war), it's all about global averages, isn't it? Local weather may be colder or more snowy than usual, but Virginia's snowstorms may be balanced out by the fact that Toronto's winters have been much milder of late than in the past (last year being an exception to that trend). We've had a pretty mild winter this year, with lots of rain and almost not snow. Thirty years ago it would have been much colder and snowier. And that is what I understand to be consistent with the mathematical models as they've been explained to me. I'm a little weak in math, so I have to get stuff like that translated into hillbilly English before I can understand it. Some years Toronto has mild winters, some years Toronto has bad winters. As the effects of global warming accumulate, the extremes of that variability will increase - the mild winters will be milder, the bad winters will be snowier. Over the long term there will be some bias towards greater numbers of mild winters, but the main effect the models predict is greater variability. And if the effects of milder winters spreads far enough north and south, and are sustained for long enough a lot of water that's currently locked up in glaciers could get let loose into the seas, which would affect sea levels, salinity, ocean currents ... a lot of complex systems that we don't quite yet understand. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/9/2010 10:10 AM, frank theriault wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:38 PM, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote:
When life gives you snow, go sit in it, have a beer and relax
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643143
I say winter is to be enjoyed and embraced. Nice Canadian shot, Dave!
cheers,
frank
Spoken like a true Canadian, after all, isn't winter one of your major
exports.
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That's just an old wive's tail, and a damned disappointment to boot
On 2/9/2010 9:26 AM, Tom C wrote:
Don't St. Bernards carry a barrel of brandy around their necks for
medicinal purposes. Definitely don't forget the St. Bernards.
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote:
[...]
A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE
EXPECTED
OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL
MAKE TRAVEL
VERY HAZARDOUS.
Send the St. Bernards.
Lucky you! My wife gave me a toboggan for my 54th birthday
and there isn't enough snow here in Nova Scotia to try it out!:-o
In that case, send him the toboggan and keep the St. Bernard for yourself.
Bob
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Re: OT- Another freaking Winter Storm Warning....
On 2/9/2010 10:36 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Christian
On 2/8/2010 4:50 PM, frank theriault wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Christianpterali...@aim.com wrote:
This is crazy.
From the national weather service (which has been freakily
accurate with
snow totals these past couple of months):
...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST
WEDNESDAY...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A
WINTER STORM WARNING FOR...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY
TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN
EFFECT.
* PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW.
* ACCUMULATIONS...10 TO 20 INCHES.
A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE
EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS
WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS.
Send the St. Bernards.
What?
You've got over 24 hours to prepare. Where's the problem?
It's just been one after another after another... And it doesn't
snow here! :-) Does global warming make it snow more? I'm so
confused... (kidding, dammit, people, I'm kidding!)
If I understand how global warming has been explained to me, more snow
may be a result.
The way I understand it, global warming causes greater variability in
weather patterns ... you get the same kinds of weather you always got,
but going more towards the extremes.
We got worse drought in the southeast for several years, now we're
getting more bad winter weather - more frequent snows.
Look for summers to get wetter with heavier rains for a while - then
it'll cycle back to drought again.
Global warming means there's more energy pumped into the weather
cycles. It's like hitting a spinning top with a ball peen hammer. The
top continues to spin, but it gets a whole lot wobblier.
The mathematical model can tell you if you smack it hard enough it
will fall over. Just can't tell you where it's going to land.
As I see it this is about the kind of weather we've had for about 100
years. The climate has warmed the climate has cooled. We've gone into
a cooling trend. Hopefully the world will come out of it before the Ice
begins to spread. Ah yes I remeber those Halcyon days of the 1970's
when Time Newsweek and the NYT ran headlines about the coming ice age.
(Though the prescription on how to deal with our imminent doom was
somehow the same).
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On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 10:47:21AM -0500, frank theriault scripsit: Not that I want to get into YAGWFW (yet another global warming flame war), it's all about global averages, isn't it? Local weather may be colder or more snowy than usual, but Virginia's snowstorms may be balanced out by the fact that Toronto's winters have been much milder of late than in the past (last year being an exception to that trend). Well, there's some of that, but there's also warmer = more evaporation, and all that water has to eventually fall out of the sky, which it is going to do that at unhelpful rates and in surprising places some of the time. We've had a pretty mild winter this year, with lots of rain and almost not snow. Thirty years ago it would have been much colder and snowier. And there wouldn't have been the cool, wet spring that lasted until the end of July, either. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT- Another freaking Winter Storm Warning....
This is crazy. From the national weather service (which has been freakily accurate with snow totals these past couple of months): ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...10 TO 20 INCHES. A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. -- - Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Christian pterali...@aim.com wrote: This is crazy. From the national weather service (which has been freakily accurate with snow totals these past couple of months): ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...10 TO 20 INCHES. A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. What? You've got over 24 hours to prepare. Where's the problem? Get lots of Kraft Dinner (I believe you people call it Kraft Mac Cheese), chips and beer. Oh yeah, and coffee, make sure you have coffee. Make sure you have a way to stay warm if the power goes out (firewood, portable heaters and generators to power them, etc.). It'll all be good. Just don't be a hero and try driving in it. Batten down the hatches and stay warm and safe. cheers, frank ps: just joking with those first couple of sentences. -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-02-08 16:50, frank theriault wrote: of Kraft Dinner (I believe you people call it Kraft Mac Cheese), chips and beer. Oh yeah, and coffee, make sure you have coffee. Make sure you have a way to stay warm if the power goes out (firewood, portable heaters and generators to power them, etc.). Screw all that, get smokes and beer! -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: Screw all that, get smokes and beer! I don't smoke anymore, so that didn't occur to me. But yes, if you smoke, absolutely. It's all about being comfortable... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/8/2010 4:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Christianpterali...@aim.com wrote: This is crazy. From the national weather service (which has been freakily accurate with snow totals these past couple of months): ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...10 TO 20 INCHES. A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. What? You've got over 24 hours to prepare. Where's the problem? It's just been one after another after another... And it doesn't snow here! :-) Does global warming make it snow more? I'm so confused... (kidding, dammit, people, I'm kidding!) Just don't be a hero and try driving in it. Ha! Yeah BTDT during the first one... But we made our flight to Oz! Batten down the hatches and stay warm and safe. Thanks frank! -- - Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/2/10, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Ha! Yeah BTDT during the first one... But we made our flight to Oz! Batten down the hatches and stay warm and safe. Thanks frank! Go sit out on that freakin patio you built ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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At 4:41 PM -0500 2/8/10, Christian wrote: This is crazy. From the national weather service (which has been freakily accurate with snow totals these past couple of months): ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...10 TO 20 INCHES. A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. Lucky you! My wife gave me a toboggan for my 54th birthday and there isn't enough snow here in Nova Scotia to try it out! :-o -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 8/2/10, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Ha! Yeah BTDT during the first one... But we made our flight to Oz! Batten down the hatches and stay warm and safe. Thanks frank! Go sit out on that freakin patio you built ;-) When life gives you snow, go sit in it, have a beer and relax http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643143 Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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OK,poslupockejte, please. Zdravi F.Weyda On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote: Bruce wrote: If we only had reindeer and sleds here, like you folks do, then we wouldn't care about snow and ice either, but with motorized vehicle densities of hundreds per sq/km it's a big deal. There must be more than thousand car on square km I'm occupying. We do. however, have winter tyres on our cars. Either studded or the extreme ice tyres without them. Pål
Re: Winter Storm Warning
We would love some of that weather down here in Australia. Right now, Sydney is surrounded by bush fires with several homes lost. The main freeway, the F3, is closed preventing travel into or out of Sydney from the north. Bob - Original Message - From: Frantisek Weyda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning OK,poslupockejte, please. Zdravi F.Weyda On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote: Bruce wrote: If we only had reindeer and sleds here, like you folks do, then we wouldn't care about snow and ice either, but with motorized vehicle densities of hundreds per sq/km it's a big deal. There must be more than thousand car on square km I'm occupying. We do. however, have winter tyres on our cars. Either studded or the extreme ice tyres without them. Pål
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Har! Here in the UK the entire country grinds to a halt if there's a touch of hoar frost in the morning! No! Dammit Bob! I won't have it! You know for a fact that it's the *forecast* of a touch of frost that brings us to our knees. Cot Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
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You're right! The next reasonable spell, I'd be at the realtors, putting my house up for sale! Where DO you live, Dan? keith whaley Dan Scott wrote: = snipped = It's just whatever you've acclimated to. I'm thinking you guys would drop like flies if you had a month or two of F 100+ weather and green house humidity. g Heck, one March we had a daytime high 113 F. And it wasn't dry heat, it was soaking wet two feet out the door heat. :-)
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On 4 Dec 2002 at 13:11, Shaun Canning wrote: Try living in a country that is in almost perpetual drought, only to hear city based weather 'talking heads' on the TV bemoaning a day of rain Not in Sydney, the talking heads were joyous at the thought of a wet weekend last week, first good rain in many many months. It's a stark contrast with out NA friends for sure, it was 42°C (107.6°F) at my place yesterday. It's too hot to go outside and it's windy so it's like being inside a huge fan forced oven. Just to bring us back on topic for a moment, there was an Option 330GS? and MZ- 6 ad on TV last night, of couse the MZ comes with a luscious Sigma zoom lens. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Pål Jensen wrote: There must be more than thousand car on square km I'm occupying. We do. however, have winter tyres on our cars. Either studded or the extreme ice tyres without them. Let's be honest here - Scandinavians also know how to drive on this stuff. That's why they produce so many world-class rally drivers :-) Chris
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Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem here is that we're expecting freezing rain. This means glaze ice on roads, and, even worse, downed tree limbs and power lines due to ice build up. On the upside, there's a photo I've been wanting to take for years. On my way to work there's a small maountain road named Hell's Delight Road. I'd love to make a shot of the sign dripping icicles... Stephen
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On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 11:02 PM, Mike Johnston wrote: It's just whatever you've acclimated to. I'm thinking you guys would drop like flies if you had a month or two of F 100+ weather and green house humidity. g Heck, one March we had a daytime high 113 F. And it wasn't dry heat, it was soaking wet two feet out the door heat. :-) Yeah but Dan, by the time you're 80 you'll think that's room temperature, and you'll be asking for your cardigan when it gets below 90. s --Mike, tuff guy from the north Damn. I have to buy a cardigan? Dan Scott
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On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 05:14 AM, Keith Whaley wrote: You're right! The next reasonable spell, I'd be at the realtors, putting my house up for sale! Where DO you live, Dan? keith whaley Dan Scott wrote: = snipped = It's just whatever you've acclimated to. I'm thinking you guys would drop like flies if you had a month or two of F 100+ weather and green house humidity. g Heck, one March we had a daytime high 113 F. And it wasn't dry heat, it was soaking wet two feet out the door heat. :-) Keith, San Antonio, Texas, USA. About 150 miles away from Mexico. Where the Texas Hill Country meets the Texas Coastal Plain. Cradle of Texas liberty (think the Alamo), nickname is the River City (because of the Riverwalk), Fort Sam Houston (army base, Teddy Roosevelt and the Roughriders, Geronimo), Randolph Field AFB, Lackland AFB, home of USAA (office building is larger than the Pentagon), the Spurs. Economy is based on tourism, and the military bases surrounding San Antonio. I think 5 years out of the last 6 have been in drought conditions. Cost of living is affordable, which is good 'cause wages are poor. I think we still lead the nation in teenage pregnancies. No good Pentax shops at all. Dan Scott
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And here I thought you were in Canada, Frank. You're describing most North Carolina drivers with this statement. Bill And, of course, knowing how to drive properly in low-traction situations helps, too - funny how when it does snow around here, so many drivers fail to reduce speed, brake and turn more gently, and leave much more distance between themselves and the vehicle ahead of them. When it does snow (especially the first snow of the year), the number of accidents is astounding. cheers, frank
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:34:21 -0500, Bill Owens wrote: And here I thought you were in Canada, Frank. You're describing most North Carolina drivers with this statement. when it does snow around here, so many drivers fail to reduce speed, brake and turn more gently, and leave much more distance Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Musta missed Bill's post from earlier today. Hmmm... Hey Doug, that's a great quote! It may someday replace my little quote from J. Robert that I now use. g cheers, frank Doug Franklin wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:34:21 -0500, Bill Owens wrote: And here I thought you were in Canada, Frank. You're describing most North Carolina drivers with this statement. when it does snow around here, so many drivers fail to reduce speed, brake and turn more gently, and leave much more distance Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:09:56 -0500, frank theriault wrote: Hey Doug, that's a great quote! Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein Herr Einstein had quite penetrating observations about all sorts of stuff beyond physics. He's one of the most interesting people I've ever studied. Here's a very interesting recent article on him. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/021209/misc/9einstein.htm TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Thanks for the article, Doug. Don't know as much about Albert as I should. I've bookmarked it, and will look at it at my leisure. cheers, frank Doug Franklin wrote: Herr Einstein had quite penetrating observations about all sorts of stuff beyond physics. He's one of the most interesting people I've ever studied. Here's a very interesting recent article on him. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/021209/misc/9einstein.htm TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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-- -Original Message- -- From: Dan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:55 AM -- -- -- On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 05:14 AM, Keith Whaley wrote: -- -- You're right! -- The next reasonable spell, I'd be at the realtors, putting -- my house up -- for sale! -- -- Where DO you live, Dan? -- -- keith whaley -- -- -- Dan Scott wrote: -- -- Keith, -- -- San Antonio, Texas, USA. About 150 miles away from Mexico. Where the -- Texas Hill Country meets the Texas Coastal Plain. Cradle of Texas -- liberty (think the Alamo), nickname is the River City -- (because of the -- Riverwalk), Fort Sam Houston (army base, Teddy Roosevelt and the -- Roughriders, Geronimo), Randolph Field AFB, Lackland AFB, -- home of USAA -- (office building is larger than the Pentagon), the Spurs. Economy is -- based on tourism, and the military bases surrounding San Antonio. I -- think 5 years out of the last 6 have been in drought -- conditions. Cost -- of living is affordable, which is good 'cause wages are -- poor. I think -- we still lead the nation in teenage pregnancies. -- -- No good Pentax shops at all. -- -- Dan Scott -- Dan, I am glad you mentioned this now. To think I would have avoided checking out San Antonio when I did and get to meet the group :-) I was still able to pick up a Pentax table tripod during my trip there... Cesar Panama City, Florida yes, I am back home...
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Bill wrote: The NWS has issued a Winter storm warning for our area for tomorrow and Thursday morning. 1-2 inches of snow followed by 1/2 inch of ice Huh? Are anyone issuing warning about inches of snow? The 1. May 1997 we had 2 metres and 40cm (only God knows how many inches that is) of snow and this in spring. Getting half a metre or up to a metre in a day is not uncommon in winter. I've yet to see any waring about it though. Pål
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Hi, Pal, We North Americans aren't as tough as you Scandinavians, I guess! vbg -frank Pål Jensen wrote: Huh? Are anyone issuing warning about inches of snow? The 1. May 1997 we had 2 metres and 40cm (only God knows how many inches that is) of snow and this in spring. Getting half a metre or up to a metre in a day is not uncommon in winter. I've yet to see any waring about it though. Pål -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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It's not the snow that concerns me, it's the 1/2 inch or more of ice. We don't get much snow here, but ice storms can cause havoc. Bill - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning Hi, Pal, We North Americans aren't as tough as you Scandinavians, I guess! vbg -frank Pål Jensen wrote: Huh? Are anyone issuing warning about inches of snow? The 1. May 1997 we had 2 metres and 40cm (only God knows how many inches that is) of snow and this in spring. Getting half a metre or up to a metre in a day is not uncommon in winter. I've yet to see any waring about it though. Pål -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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It's not the snow that concerns me, it's the 1/2 inch or more of ice. We don't get much snow here, but ice storms can cause havoc. Bill Indeed. Ice is the problem. http://members.aol.com/badice98/expo/icestormExpostionNDG1.html Andre - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning Hi, Pal, We North Americans aren't as tough as you Scandinavians, I guess! vbg -frank Pål Jensen wrote: Huh? Are anyone issuing warning about inches of snow? The 1. May 1997 we had 2 metres and 40cm (only God knows how many inches that is) of snow and this in spring. Getting half a metre or up to a metre in a day is not uncommon in winter. I've yet to see any waring about it though. Pål -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer --
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Bill wrote: It's not the snow that concerns me, it's the 1/2 inch or more of ice. We don't get much snow here, but ice storms can cause havoc. Well, snow gets compacted to ice on the roads. For the last three weeks every major road around here is steel ice
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Problem here is that we're expecting freezing rain. This means glaze ice on roads, and, even worse, downed tree limbs and power lines due to ice build up. Bill - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning Bill wrote: It's not the snow that concerns me, it's the 1/2 inch or more of ice. We don't get much snow here, but ice storms can cause havoc. Well, snow gets compacted to ice on the roads. For the last three weeks every major road around here is steel ice
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don't scare me Bill, that stuff is heading our way to. --- Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem here is that we're expecting freezing rain. This means glaze ice on roads, and, even worse, downed tree limbs and power lines due to ice build up. Bill - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning Bill wrote: It's not the snow that concerns me, it's the 1/2 inch or more of ice. We don't get much snow here, but ice storms can cause havoc. Well, snow gets compacted to ice on the roads. For the last three weeks every major road around here is steel ice __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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Yeah, we're supposed to get 4 to 8 inches on Wednesday. For those of you who don't know, DC gets paralyzed by anything over 2 inches -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.bigdayphoto.com 301-758-3085 -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 4:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Winter Storm Warning The NWS has issued a Winter storm warning for our area for tomorrow and Thursday morning. 1-2 inches of snow followed by 1/2 inch of ice. I received the power management system for the portable generator (5500 watts) yesterday and installed and operating today, looks like maybe just in time. If we get the snow and ice, could make for some interesting photo ops Thursday. Bill
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Bill, you just have to admit that we're wusses in comparison. -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.bigdayphoto.com 301-758-3085 -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning Problem here is that we're expecting freezing rain. This means glaze ice on roads, and, even worse, downed tree limbs and power lines due to ice build up. Bill - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning Bill wrote: It's not the snow that concerns me, it's the 1/2 inch or more of ice. We don't get much snow here, but ice storms can cause havoc. Well, snow gets compacted to ice on the roads. For the last three weeks every major road around here is steel ice
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At this point in the thread, there is always one wisenheimer who finds it necessary to add that it is 60 degrees and sunny where he/she lives. Michael Cross P.S. Northern California, in case you are interested. Bill Owens wrote: Problem here is that we're expecting freezing rain. This means glaze ice on roads, and, even worse, downed tree limbs and power lines due to ice build up. Bill - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning Bill wrote: It's not the snow that concerns me, it's the 1/2 inch or more of ice. We don't get much snow here, but ice storms can cause havoc. Well, snow gets compacted to ice on the roads. For the last three weeks every major road around here is steel ice
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Stop worrying, Brendan. The storm will stop over Buffalo, then zip over Lake Ontario, hit shore around Belleville, then head towards Kingston, and East. Remember last Christmas-time? Buffalo got 7 straight days of snow (I think over 3 meters total), and we got ~nada~. No worries. -frank Brendan wrote: don't scare me Bill, that stuff is heading our way to. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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You live in Quebec City, don't you Andre? How bad was the ice storm of a few years ago for you? My ex-wife's family lives in St. Bruno, southeast of Montreal. That was in the Black Triangle, and they were without power for over a week - although some areas of the Triangle went about a month without electricity. The freezing rain kept falling and falling, and the hydro crews would repair downed wires, only to have them come down a couple of hours later. Indeed, ice storms can be horrendous. And, we're not even talking about the walking/driving conditions, just loss of electricity! I hope it isn't too bad for you Bill. My earlier tongue-in-cheek remark to Pal was in no way intended to belittle how dangerous ice storms can be. Hope all turns out okay for you. OTOH, despite the obvious dangers, there's a beauty to having a world covered in ice, so you may have some photo ops... good luck, frank Andre Langevin wrote: It's not the snow that concerns me, it's the 1/2 inch or more of ice. We don't get much snow here, but ice storms can cause havoc. Bill Indeed. Ice is the problem. http://members.aol.com/badice98/expo/icestormExpostionNDG1.html Andre - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning Hi, Pal, We North Americans aren't as tough as you Scandinavians, I guess! vbg -frank Pål Jensen wrote: Huh? Are anyone issuing warning about inches of snow? The 1. May 1997 we had 2 metres and 40cm (only God knows how many inches that is) of snow and this in spring. Getting half a metre or up to a metre in a day is not uncommon in winter. I've yet to see any waring about it though. Pål -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer -- -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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I hope it isn't too bad for you Bill. My earlier tongue-in-cheek remark to Pal was in no way intended to belittle how dangerous ice storms can be. Hope all turns out okay for you. Thanks, Frank. For the first time ever we're as prepared as we can be. The new 5500 watt generator is enough to run the fridge, all the lights and a couple of electric heaters. That plus the fireplace should be enough to keep us comfortable OTOH, despite the obvious dangers, there's a beauty to having a world covered in ice, so you may have some photo ops... Yep, I'm loaded with RSX 100 and Delta 100 just waiting for Thursday :-0 good luck, frank Andre Langevin wrote: It's not the snow that concerns me, it's the 1/2 inch or more of ice. We don't get much snow here, but ice storms can cause havoc. Bill Indeed. Ice is the problem. http://members.aol.com/badice98/expo/icestormExpostionNDG1.html Andre - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning Hi, Pal, We North Americans aren't as tough as you Scandinavians, I guess! vbg -frank Pål Jensen wrote: Huh? Are anyone issuing warning about inches of snow? The 1. May 1997 we had 2 metres and 40cm (only God knows how many inches that is) of snow and this in spring. Getting half a metre or up to a metre in a day is not uncommon in winter. I've yet to see any waring about it though. Pål -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer -- -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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Yes, we are, aren't we. Bill - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:37 PM Subject: RE: Winter Storm Warning Bill, you just have to admit that we're wusses in comparison. -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.bigdayphoto.com 301-758-3085 -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning Problem here is that we're expecting freezing rain. This means glaze ice on roads, and, even worse, downed tree limbs and power lines due to ice build up. Bill - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning Bill wrote: It's not the snow that concerns me, it's the 1/2 inch or more of ice. We don't get much snow here, but ice storms can cause havoc. Well, snow gets compacted to ice on the roads. For the last three weeks every major road around here is steel ice
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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 23:03:35 +0100, Pl Jensen wrote: Bill wrote: The NWS has issued a Winter storm warning for our area for tomorrow and Thursday morning. 1-2 inches of snow followed by 1/2 inch of ice Huh? Are anyone issuing warning about inches of snow? The 1. May 1997 we had 2 metres and 40cm (only God knows how many inches that is) of snow and this in spring. Getting half a metre or up to a metre in a day is not uncommon in winter. I've yet to see any waring about it though. Pl TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 23:03:35 +0100, Pl Jensen wrote: The 1. May 1997 we had 2 metres and 40cm (only God knows how many inches that is) Close to 100 inches. Around here (Atlanta, GA, USA) we'd be closed down for a month or more with that kind of snowfall. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Hi, Har! Here in the UK the entire country grinds to a halt if there's a touch of hoar frost in the morning! --- Bob We North Americans aren't as tough as you Scandinavians, I guess! vbg Huh? Are anyone issuing warning about inches of snow? The 1. May 1997 we had 2 metres and 40cm (only God knows how many inches that is) of snow and this in spring. Getting half a metre or up to a metre in a day is not uncommon in winter. I've yet to see any waring about it though.
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You live in Quebec City, don't you Andre? How bad was the ice storm of a few years ago for you? My ex-wife's family lives in St. Bruno, southeast of Montreal. That was in the Black Triangle, and they were without power for over a week - although some areas of the Triangle went about a month without electricity. The freezing rain kept falling and falling, and the hydro crews would repair downed wires, only to have them come down a couple of hours later. Nothing special happened in Quebec City. Ice began about 30 km south. I followed this incredible thing on TV as if this nearby Black Triangle was from another planet. St-Bruno was badly hit. Some places got 100mm of ice, that is 4 inches! A good map of this natural and dramatic happening: http://members.aol.com/badice98/icestormDiary/icestormMap.html OTOH, despite the obvious dangers, there's a beauty to having a world covered in ice, so you may have some photo ops... I found a small book with many impressive bw photos. I have not found any of them on the web yet. Maybe some poetry... http://members.aol.com/badice98/icestormDiary/Poems.html Andre --
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- Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: Re: Winter Storm Warning I buy bread and beer. Words to live by, folks. William Robb
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He is, indeed, a wise man. Fortunately, all my husband will have to go out for tomorrow is the bread -- I have plenty of the other to keep me company for a couple of days. :) - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 9:33 PM Subject: RE: Winter Storm Warning -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Most of these folks around here buy bread and milk. I buy bread and beer. This gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling. tv
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Try living in a country that is in almost perpetual drought, only to hear city based weather 'talking heads' on the TV bemoaning a day of rain Excellent example. We had a drought in Illinois a few years ago and the farmers were really hurting, and all the weather people were brightly hoping on the air that it wouldn't rain on the weekend. Must have been really irritating to be a farmer and have to listen to that. --Mike
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It's just whatever you've acclimated to. I'm thinking you guys would drop like flies if you had a month or two of F 100+ weather and green house humidity. g Heck, one March we had a daytime high 113 F. And it wasn't dry heat, it was soaking wet two feet out the door heat. :-) Yeah but Dan, by the time you're 80 you'll think that's room temperature, and you'll be asking for your cardigan when it gets below 90. s --Mike, tuff guy from the north
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funny thing is, 10 minutes after I sent that e-mail it started p**ing down. Oh well, it's not enough, but it's a start. :):):) Cheers Shaun Mike Johnston wrote: Try living in a country that is in almost perpetual drought, only to hear city based weather 'talking heads' on the TV bemoaning a day of rain Excellent example. We had a drought in Illinois a few years ago and the farmers were really hurting, and all the weather people were brightly hoping on the air that it wouldn't rain on the weekend. Must have been really irritating to be a farmer and have to listen to that. --Mike . -- Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services High Street, Broadford, Victoria, 3658. www.heritageservices.com.au/ Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My images can be seen at www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=238096
