Re: PESO - Housekeeping
On 2015-11-10 11:40 , Marco Alpert wrote: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html nice observation, presented at a good size; one thing i notice is a slight unease — there is nowhere for the eye to rest; for me this adds tension to the non-relationship of the people in the photo; should still be interesting many years from now one thing i notice the insane number of plants this place maintains; they ought to be growing food there; another thing i notice is your lens is just about perfectly planar (or you post-processed to remove distortion), which also adds to the tension -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
Yup. m On Nov 12, 2015, at 9:05 AM, John wrote: > I bet it's the same one that has the open top bar down in the lobby. > > On 11/10/2015 8:53 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >> A Hyatt Regency someplace. I like it. >> >> Rick >> >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: >> >>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html >>> >>> Comments, as always, welcomed. >>> >>> -Marco >>> >>> --- >>> http://www.alpert.com/marco >>> > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [baphotoshooters] Housekeeping - MMA
Wasn't an annoyance, just a curiosity. On 11/11/2015 3:58 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: BAPhotoShooters is a Yahoo group I created sometime in and around 2008 to provide a way for folks who attended the Pacific Art League's photo group to chat, share photos, and get together for occasional parties and fun. There are a few other folks on it who've subscribed after the original thought came and went. I have it configured so that it puts the [baphotoshooters] key into the subject line, easy to find and for filters to pick up in Mail. I usually try to remove subject keys when posting across different email and group addresses, just missed it this time. Sorry for the annoyance. G On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: Hm... not sure how that made it into the subject line here on PDML (I think maybe via Godfrey's response), but it's a (currently very low traffic) list for SF Bay Area photographers. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/baphotoshooters/info m On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote: By the way, what is this baphotoshooters? On November 10, 2015 11:45:00 AM PST, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Like this one a lot. It lead me on a pleasant detail hunt looking for all the details across the balconies. Great work! G On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com [baphotoshooters] wrote: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
I bet it's the same one that has the open top bar down in the lobby. On 11/10/2015 8:53 PM, Rick Womer wrote: A Hyatt Regency someplace. I like it. Rick On Nov 10, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [baphotoshooters] Housekeeping - MMA
BAPhotoShooters is a Yahoo group I created sometime in and around 2008 to provide a way for folks who attended the Pacific Art League's photo group to chat, share photos, and get together for occasional parties and fun. There are a few other folks on it who've subscribed after the original thought came and went. I have it configured so that it puts the [baphotoshooters] key into the subject line, easy to find and for filters to pick up in Mail. I usually try to remove subject keys when posting across different email and group addresses, just missed it this time. Sorry for the annoyance. G > On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: > > Hm... not sure how that made it into the subject line here on PDML (I think > maybe via Godfrey's response), but it's a (currently very low traffic) list > for SF Bay Area photographers. > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/baphotoshooters/info > > m > > On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >> By the way, what is this baphotoshooters? >> >> On November 10, 2015 11:45:00 AM PST, Godfrey DiGiorgi >> wrote: >>> Like this one a lot. It lead me on a pleasant detail hunt looking for >>> all the details across the balconies. >>> Great work! >>> >>> G >>> >>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com >>> [baphotoshooters] wrote: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [baphotoshooters] Housekeeping - MMA
Hm... not sure how that made it into the subject line here on PDML (I think maybe via Godfrey's response), but it's a (currently very low traffic) list for SF Bay Area photographers. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/baphotoshooters/info m On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > By the way, what is this baphotoshooters? > > On November 10, 2015 11:45:00 AM PST, Godfrey DiGiorgi > wrote: >> Like this one a lot. It lead me on a pleasant detail hunt looking for >> all the details across the balconies. >> Great work! >> >> G >> >> >>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com >> [baphotoshooters] wrote: >>> >>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html >>> >>> Comments, as always, welcomed. >>> >>> -Marco > > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [baphotoshooters] Housekeeping - MMA
By the way, what is this baphotoshooters? On November 10, 2015 11:45:00 AM PST, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >Like this one a lot. It lead me on a pleasant detail hunt looking for >all the details across the balconies. >Great work! > >G > > >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com >[baphotoshooters] wrote: >> >> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html >> >> Comments, as always, welcomed. >> >> -Marco -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
Ah... Got it. Thanks. m On Nov 10, 2015, at 9:43 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > I would like one photo to show the shadows without the people, and another to > show the people without the shadows. In one photo they divide my attention. > > B > >> On 11 Nov 2015, at 05:08, Marco Alpert wrote: >> >> Thanks, Bob. But pardon my denseness, how exactly would you like to see it >> as two photos? >> >> - Marco >> >>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >>> >>> I like the geometry of the shadows, and I like the 'Rear Window' idea of >>> people's lives going on independently and publicly, so I would love to see >>> this as 2 separate photos rather than one. >>> >>> B >>> On 10 Nov 2015, at 18:41, Marco Alpert wrote: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
I would like one photo to show the shadows without the people, and another to show the people without the shadows. In one photo they divide my attention. B > On 11 Nov 2015, at 05:08, Marco Alpert wrote: > > Thanks, Bob. But pardon my denseness, how exactly would you like to see it as > two photos? > > - Marco > >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> >> I like the geometry of the shadows, and I like the 'Rear Window' idea of >> people's lives going on independently and publicly, so I would love to see >> this as 2 separate photos rather than one. >> >> B >> >>> On 10 Nov 2015, at 18:41, Marco Alpert wrote: >>> >>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html >>> >>> Comments, as always, welcomed. >>> >>> -Marco >>> >>> --- >>> http://www.alpert.com/marco >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
It’s the Westin Chicago Northwest in Itasca. And yes, all four inner sides are like that, with one broken by an exposed elevator. - Marco On Nov 10, 2015, at 9:25 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > Great geometry and light ... > > Marco - where is that? It reminds me of a hotel I once stayed in ..all the > entrances to rooms are going arond the edges of a rectangle and face > inwardwith an atrium in the middle - . > > ann > > On 11/11/2015 12:11 AM, Marco Alpert wrote: >> Thanks, Frank. I’ll take that in the most positive of possible >> interpretations. >> >> - Marco >> >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 6:29 PM, knarf wrote: >> >>> Damn you. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> frank >>> >>> On November 10, 2015 1:40:11 PM EST, Marco Alpert wrote: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco >>> -- >>> >>> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
Great geometry and light ... Marco - where is that? It reminds me of a hotel I once stayed in ..all the entrances to rooms are going arond the edges of a rectangle and face inwardwith an atrium in the middle - . ann On 11/11/2015 12:11 AM, Marco Alpert wrote: Thanks, Frank. I’ll take that in the most positive of possible interpretations. - Marco On Nov 10, 2015, at 6:29 PM, knarf wrote: Damn you. Cheers, frank On November 10, 2015 1:40:11 PM EST, Marco Alpert wrote: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
Thanks, Frank. I’ll take that in the most positive of possible interpretations. - Marco On Nov 10, 2015, at 6:29 PM, knarf wrote: > Damn you. > > Cheers, > > frank > > On November 10, 2015 1:40:11 PM EST, Marco Alpert wrote: >> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html >> >> Comments, as always, welcomed. >> >> -Marco >> >> --- >> http://www.alpert.com/marco > > -- > > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
Thanks, Rick. (Outside Chicago.) - Marco On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > A Hyatt Regency someplace. I like it. > > Rick > > On Nov 10, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: > >> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html >> >> Comments, as always, welcomed. >> >> -Marco >> >> --- >> http://www.alpert.com/marco >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > http://photo.net/photos/RickW > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
Thanks, Larry. That was specifically one of the challenges of the shot. It went through quite a few iterations to arrive at this one. - Marco On Nov 10, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Marco Alpert wrote: >> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html >> >> Comments, as always, welcomed. > > I love the composition, the interplay of light and shadow, and the > combination of people and abstract shapes. > I can't help but think that there might be a better way of processing the > tonality, but don't have any suggestions beyond maybe bringing down the > blacks slider to darken the deepest blacks. > >> >> -Marco >> >> --- >> http://www.alpert.com/marco >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
Thanks, Cotty! - Marco On Nov 10, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 10/11/15, Marco Alpert, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html >> >> Comments, as always, welcomed. > > That's very good! > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, > || (O) |Web Video Production > -- > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
Thanks, Bob. But pardon my denseness, how exactly would you like to see it as two photos? - Marco On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > I like the geometry of the shadows, and I like the 'Rear Window' idea of > people's lives going on independently and publicly, so I would love to see > this as 2 separate photos rather than one. > > B > >> On 10 Nov 2015, at 18:41, Marco Alpert wrote: >> >> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html >> >> Comments, as always, welcomed. >> >> -Marco >> >> --- >> http://www.alpert.com/marco >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [baphotoshooters] Housekeeping - MMA
Thanks, Mark. Much apprecitaed. - Marco On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:06 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com >>> [baphotoshooters] wrote: >>> >>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html >>> >> Like this one a lot. It lead me on a pleasant detail hunt looking for all >> the details across the balconies. >> Great work! > > What Godfrey said. I love this shot. > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
Damn you. Cheers, frank On November 10, 2015 1:40:11 PM EST, Marco Alpert wrote: >http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html > >Comments, as always, welcomed. > >-Marco > >--- >http://www.alpert.com/marco -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
A Hyatt Regency someplace. I like it. Rick On Nov 10, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: > http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html > > Comments, as always, welcomed. > > -Marco > > --- > http://www.alpert.com/marco > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [baphotoshooters] Housekeeping - MMA
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com >> [baphotoshooters] wrote: >> >> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html >> >Like this one a lot. It lead me on a pleasant detail hunt looking for all the >details across the balconies. >Great work! What Godfrey said. I love this shot. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
Marco Alpert wrote: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. I love the composition, the interplay of light and shadow, and the combination of people and abstract shapes. I can't help but think that there might be a better way of processing the tonality, but don't have any suggestions beyond maybe bringing down the blacks slider to darken the deepest blacks. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
On 10/11/15, Marco Alpert, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html > >Comments, as always, welcomed. That's very good! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [baphotoshooters] Housekeeping - MMA
Thanks, Godfrey! m On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Like this one a lot. It lead me on a pleasant detail hunt looking for all the > details across the balconies. > Great work! > > G > > >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com >> [baphotoshooters] wrote: >> >> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html >> >> Comments, as always, welcomed. >> >> -Marco > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Housekeeping
I like the geometry of the shadows, and I like the 'Rear Window' idea of people's lives going on independently and publicly, so I would love to see this as 2 separate photos rather than one. B > On 10 Nov 2015, at 18:41, Marco Alpert wrote: > > http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html > > Comments, as always, welcomed. > > -Marco > > --- > http://www.alpert.com/marco > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [baphotoshooters] Housekeeping - MMA
Like this one a lot. It lead me on a pleasant detail hunt looking for all the details across the balconies. Great work! G > On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com [baphotoshooters] > wrote: > > http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html > > Comments, as always, welcomed. > > -Marco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Housekeeping
http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: housekeeping
I just came across this message: In CS2 Bridge under Edit>Camera Raw Preferences...>Camera Raw Cache>Select Location... you can change it. Cheers, Dave On 07/06/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just checked my system: It's Camera Raw that creates "cache" (not > > "temp") files of about 4.3 meg each On my system they're in > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application > > Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\Cache and I haven't found any way to change the > > location yet. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: housekeeping
cbwaters wrote: > Somebody was telling me at GFM that photoshop temporary files can fill-up > your drive. Does that apply to Elements as well? Any tips on where to find > the bloat? Not sure about Elements, but in PS look in preferences and then plug-ins and scratch disks. That's where the PS temp files go - they are something like Photoshop Temp### where the ## are numbers. Last winter a friend called and asked me to look at her computer because she was out of disk space and didn't know why. She must of had 50 gigs of old PS temp files on it! In my experience if you properly shutdown PS it removes the temp file, but if the system crashes or the program is terminated abnormally, then the temp file is left behind... > Probably the same somebody was telling me that DNG files were much bigger, > or something like that. A full conversation is difficult on GFM, what with > so much distraction. Should I be making DNGs or PEFs? I made the switch to PEF's for GFM. Yesterday I got 180 PEF's on a 2 gig card, which would have held something like 135 DNG files. It's worth it. - MCC -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, Michigan www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Housekeeping
Thu Jun 7 20:37:55 EDT 2007 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Jun 7, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Tom C wrote: > > Thanks. I couldn't get the Refresh command to do anything at all. > > Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what it's supposed to be refreshing. Based on my observation, it makes the Bridge to find and process the new files in the current directory (folder). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: housekeeping
On Jun 7, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Tom C wrote: > Thanks. I couldn't get the Refresh command to do anything at all. Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what it's supposed to be refreshing. > I selected the Purge Central Cache command, and it decided it > needed to > automatically regenerate the thumbnails. Good ... I have never used those commands, forgot they were even there. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: housekeeping
On Jun 7, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: >> I tell the Apple Backup application to exclude the subdirectories >> that cache and temp files are stored in. There should be a way to do >> that with any useful backup utility. > > Of course I could do that but then my data wouldn't be backed up. My > problem is that incremental back-ups are impractical (but preferable > on a system drive as they allow regressive restoration) as they add to > the previous back-up. Hence I have to execute a full back-up each > time. If I could redirect them I could place them on secure drives and > they wouldn't fragment my system drive and would save me a little > time. Backing up temp and cache files is ridiculous. They're not your data, they're the applications and OS transient data stores and are recreated automatically, dynamically, as the system and applications run. Backing them up is simply a waste of space in the archive. I use the incremental Backup application to do all my regular account things and exclude all transient temp files and caches, as well as the photographic files. Photo files are large and I don't want to use incremental backups on them ... that would waste a tremendous amount of space as well. I only want the latest versions replicated in the backup stores. I use a file synchronizer to back them to the archives specifically rather than an incremental backup utility. It proves to be an efficient system. The photo backups run every evening automated, or when I say "do it now", the main system backup runs every week. Backup storage capacity is consumed at an economical rate this way. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 08/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2007, at 6:54 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > > >> Not a big deal except that I have my computer set up to use the C > >> drive > >> for the operating system *only*. These cache files just increase the > >> size of my system back-up and, of course, the time required to > >> make the > >> back-up. > > > > I have a similar problem though it's Picasa and Google Earth that > > pollute my system drive with huge cache/database files. The Google sub > > alone in my user profile is 1.65GB so incremental back-ups are > > impractical and there is no way to redirect the files. :-( > > I tell the Apple Backup application to exclude the subdirectories > that cache and temp files are stored in. There should be a way to do > that with any useful backup utility. Of course I could do that but then my data wouldn't be backed up. My problem is that incremental back-ups are impractical (but preferable on a system drive as they allow regressive restoration) as they add to the previous back-up. Hence I have to execute a full back-up each time. If I could redirect them I could place them on secure drives and they wouldn't fragment my system drive and would save me a little time. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks. I couldn't get the Refresh command to do anything at all. I selected the Purge Central Cache command, and it decided it needed to automatically regenerate the thumbnails. Tom C. >From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: housekeeping >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:46:02 -0700 > >Set Bridge to use a distributed cache. > >Quit Bridge, go to the directory you want to have it reprocess, >delete the two files it makes ... >Adobe Bridge Cache.bc >Adobe Bridge Cache.bct >... then restart Bridge. It will reprocess the folder in its entirety. > >Otherwise, when you have the Folders panel frontmost in the sidebar, >there is a menu at the top with a Refresh command. This sometimes >works. ;-) > >G > > >On Jun 7, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Tom C wrote: > > > A related question. How can one regenerate the thumbnails > > displayed in > > Bridge? I'm on CS2. > > > > It seems (not sure) that several times when I've opened Bridge and > > looked at > > a folder that was still being copied to, from the camera CF, that > > it loses > > it's mind and does not generate all the thumbnails. > > > > I've looked in the menus and Help but have not come across an answer. > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: housekeeping
Set Bridge to use a distributed cache. Quit Bridge, go to the directory you want to have it reprocess, delete the two files it makes ... Adobe Bridge Cache.bc Adobe Bridge Cache.bct ... then restart Bridge. It will reprocess the folder in its entirety. Otherwise, when you have the Folders panel frontmost in the sidebar, there is a menu at the top with a Refresh command. This sometimes works. ;-) G On Jun 7, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Tom C wrote: > A related question. How can one regenerate the thumbnails > displayed in > Bridge? I'm on CS2. > > It seems (not sure) that several times when I've opened Bridge and > looked at > a folder that was still being copied to, from the camera CF, that > it loses > it's mind and does not generate all the thumbnails. > > I've looked in the menus and Help but have not come across an answer. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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A related question. How can one regenerate the thumbnails displayed in Bridge? I'm on CS2. It seems (not sure) that several times when I've opened Bridge and looked at a folder that was still being copied to, from the camera CF, that it loses it's mind and does not generate all the thumbnails. I've looked in the menus and Help but have not come across an answer. Tom C. >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: housekeeping >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:07:41 -0600 > > >- Original Message - >From: "Mark Roberts" >Subject: Re: housekeeping > > > > > > Thanks Bill! > > (I hadn't thought of checking in *Bridge* for that.) > > > >Glad I can still be of some use from time to time > >William Robb > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: housekeeping > > Thanks Bill! > (I hadn't thought of checking in *Bridge* for that.) > Glad I can still be of some use from time to time William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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William Robb wrote: >From: "Mark Roberts" > >> I just checked my system: It's Camera Raw that creates "cache" (not >> "temp") files of about 4.3 meg each On my system they're in >> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application >> Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\Cache and I haven't found any way to change the >> location yet. > >Open Bridge: Edit/Camera RAW Preferences. You will find a control there to >let you limit the size of the cache (It appears to be 1gb by default), and >you can also select the location of the cache there. Thanks Bill! (I hadn't thought of checking in *Bridge* for that.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Jun 7, 2007, at 6:54 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: >> Not a big deal except that I have my computer set up to use the C >> drive >> for the operating system *only*. These cache files just increase the >> size of my system back-up and, of course, the time required to >> make the >> back-up. > > I have a similar problem though it's Picasa and Google Earth that > pollute my system drive with huge cache/database files. The Google sub > alone in my user profile is 1.65GB so incremental back-ups are > impractical and there is no way to redirect the files. :-( I tell the Apple Backup application to exclude the subdirectories that cache and temp files are stored in. There should be a way to do that with any useful backup utility. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: housekeeping > I just checked my system: It's Camera Raw that creates "cache" (not > "temp") files of about 4.3 meg each On my system they're in > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application > Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\Cache and I haven't found any way to change the > location yet. > > Open Bridge: Edit/Camera RAW Preferences. You will find a control there to let you limit the size of the cache (It appears to be 1gb by default), and you can also select the location of the cache there. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: housekeeping
On 07/06/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just checked my system: It's Camera Raw that creates "cache" (not > "temp") files of about 4.3 meg each On my system they're in > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application > Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\Cache and I haven't found any way to change the > location yet. Interesting, I'm still running ACR2.4 and all I can see there is the conversion "Database" file. > Not a big deal except that I have my computer set up to use the C drive > for the operating system *only*. These cache files just increase the > size of my system back-up and, of course, the time required to make the > back-up. I have a similar problem though it's Picasa and Google Earth that pollute my system drive with huge cache/database files. The Google sub alone in my user profile is 1.65GB so incremental back-ups are impractical and there is no way to redirect the files. :-( -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Digital Image Studio wrote: >On 07/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> BTW, I do seem to recall reference to Photoshop temp files not being >> deleted and accumulating on Windows systems, I think it was on >> Photo.net. > >PS CS creates a temp file per session (on the nominated drive, I'm not >sure what happens if multiple drives are nominated) which is always >automatically deleted if the application is closed normally. If it >crashes it can leave debris but on a well set-up system that type of >occurrence would be rare. I just checked my system: It's Camera Raw that creates "cache" (not "temp") files of about 4.3 meg each On my system they're in C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\Cache and I haven't found any way to change the location yet. Not a big deal except that I have my computer set up to use the C drive for the operating system *only*. These cache files just increase the size of my system back-up and, of course, the time required to make the back-up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Jun 6, 2007, at 5:19 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Digital Image Studio wrote: > >> On 07/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I'm using Transcend 150x 2G cards most of the time. They work great, >>> $21 each from NewEgg.com. >>> >>> I've never had any problems with Photoshop temp files on Mac OS X. >>> Must be a Windows thing. >> >> Not a Windows thing, must be a user thing. > > Right. It's not "temp" files, it's cache files created by Camera Raw > and Bridge. They don't really cause problems, just take up space. I have both Bridge and Camera Raw set to create distributed cache files. They are created in each directory that Bridge processes. In a directory with 105 PSD image files, one is about 16M and the other is about 44K. Yes, they take up some space, but I don't consider that to be excessive. That directory contains about 3.1Gbytes worth of data files and four more subdirectories. 16M worth of cache information seems trivial when you consider how much time it takes for Bridge/ Camera Raw to reprocess that much data and cache the thumbnails, etc. This is not a problem... BTW, I do seem to recall reference to Photoshop temp files not being deleted and accumulating on Windows systems, I think it was on Photo.net. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 07/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, I do seem to recall reference to Photoshop temp files not being > deleted and accumulating on Windows systems, I think it was on > Photo.net. PS CS creates a temp file per session (on the nominated drive, I'm not sure what happens if multiple drives are nominated) which is always automatically deleted if the application is closed normally. If it crashes it can leave debris but on a well set-up system that type of occurrence would be rare. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Digital Image Studio wrote: >On 07/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm using Transcend 150x 2G cards most of the time. They work great, >> $21 each from NewEgg.com. >> >> I've never had any problems with Photoshop temp files on Mac OS X. >> Must be a Windows thing. > >Not a Windows thing, must be a user thing. Right. It's not "temp" files, it's cache files created by Camera Raw and Bridge. They don't really cause problems, just take up space. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 07/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm using Transcend 150x 2G cards most of the time. They work great, > $21 each from NewEgg.com. > > I've never had any problems with Photoshop temp files on Mac OS X. > Must be a Windows thing. Not a Windows thing, must be a user thing. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I'm using Transcend 150x 2G cards most of the time. They work great, $21 each from NewEgg.com. I've never had any problems with Photoshop temp files on Mac OS X. Must be a Windows thing. DNG files created in the K10D are larger than PEF files (average 16M vs average 11M) due to the fact that Pentax applies lossless compression to the PEF files but not to the DNGs. I keep the K10D set on RAW/PEF to save space on the card, then auto-convert them to DNG on import to Lightroom. Lightroom's DNG conversion produces the same file size as the PEFs on average (so does DNG Converter if you leave the lossless compression option turned on). Godfrey On Jun 6, 2007, at 5:08 AM, cbwaters wrote: > Who has a good deal on SD cards? I need another 2G for next week's > trip to > Michigan. > > Somebody was telling me at GFM that photoshop temporary files can > fill-up > your drive. Does that apply to Elements as well? Any tips on > where to find > the bloat? > > Probably the same somebody was telling me that DNG files were much > bigger, > or something like that. A full conversation is difficult on GFM, > what with > so much distraction. Should I be making DNGs or PEFs? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I bought 2 Sandisk Extreme III 2.0gb cards @ Circuit City yesterday for $34.95. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: housekeeping > Who has a good deal on SD cards? I need another 2G for next week's trip to > Michigan. > > Somebody was telling me at GFM that photoshop temporary files can fill-up > your drive. Does that apply to Elements as well? Any tips on where to > find > the bloat? > > Probably the same somebody was telling me that DNG files were much bigger, > or something like that. A full conversation is difficult on GFM, what > with > so much distraction. Should I be making DNGs or PEFs? > > I came home with a few extra of those Pentax CD holders. If anybody wants > one, send me some postage (paypal works) and it's yours. > > I think that's it for now. > > Thanks, > CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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If you're willing to pay a bit more for immediate gratification, Staples has 2.0 Gig Ultra II's on sale for about 30.00, (that may be over by now however). Paul Sorenson wrote: > If your more concerned about capacity than speed, Office Depot has 1 gig > SanDisk SD cards on sale this week for $9.99. > > -p > > cbwaters wrote: > >> Who has a good deal on SD cards? I need another 2G for next week's trip to >> Michigan. >> >> > > > -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Paul Sorenson wrote: > If your more concerned about capacity than speed, Office Depot has 1 gig > SanDisk SD cards on sale this week for $9.99. > > -p > > cbwaters wrote: >> Who has a good deal on SD cards? I need another 2G for next week's trip to >> Michigan. Cory, since you're in Atlanta, if you can get by Fry's they usually have something on special that's not total crap. I recently got 2GB 150X PQI cards for about $22 each, and I've gotten 4GB 150X cards for around $45 there. You might do better on the Internet, but you have to wait for them. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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If your more concerned about capacity than speed, Office Depot has 1 gig SanDisk SD cards on sale this week for $9.99. -p cbwaters wrote: > Who has a good deal on SD cards? I need another 2G for next week's trip to > Michigan. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Doug Brewer wrote: http://www.newegg.com has the 150X 2G for a little over $20 each. whoops, I mean the 150X Transcend 2G... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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cbwaters wrote: > Who has a good deal on SD cards? I need another 2G for next week's trip to > Michigan. http://www.newegg.com has the 150X 2G for a little over $20 each. > > Somebody was telling me at GFM that photoshop temporary files can fill-up > your drive. Does that apply to Elements as well? Any tips on where to find > the bloat? Mark was talking about that, I think. Look in the temp directory in your Adobe folder. > > Probably the same somebody was telling me that DNG files were much bigger, > or something like that. A full conversation is difficult on GFM, what with > so much distraction. Should I be making DNGs or PEFs? I'm shooting DNG. And, naturally, you want to do what I do. > > I came home with a few extra of those Pentax CD holders. If anybody wants > one, send me some postage (paypal works) and it's yours. > > I think that's it for now. > > Thanks, > CW > > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
housekeeping
Who has a good deal on SD cards? I need another 2G for next week's trip to Michigan. Somebody was telling me at GFM that photoshop temporary files can fill-up your drive. Does that apply to Elements as well? Any tips on where to find the bloat? Probably the same somebody was telling me that DNG files were much bigger, or something like that. A full conversation is difficult on GFM, what with so much distraction. Should I be making DNGs or PEFs? I came home with a few extra of those Pentax CD holders. If anybody wants one, send me some postage (paypal works) and it's yours. I think that's it for now. Thanks, CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Housekeeping.
You know, I just noticed that I have 12,383 messages in my PDML folder... Time to go use some film. TTYL. Cory Waters
