just stopping by

2006-07-10 Thread jim kerslake
Just saying Hi, from Yorkshire UK.
Thought I might join your rather prolific list for so long as my mailbox can
stand it.

I have been taking photos for a couple of months - no idea what brought it
on.  Some kind of madness.

I mostly enjoy using my father's old Pentax Spotmatic F with a broken
lightmeter.
I have another Spotmatic (not F) which actually works, but I really don't
enjoy fiddling about with that black metering switch on the side.

I did buy myself a digital SLR recently -
(not a Pentax - sorry - I wanted anti-shake in the body at a time when
Konica-Minolta was the obvious and very affordable choice),
but I dunno - I'm more of a film type I think.
I only really enjoy using the D-SLR when I stick old M42 Asahi Super Multi
Coated Takumar lenses onto it.
So I consider the results of that to be at least half-Pentax.

I am obsessed with old Takumar lenses, since they seem to have magical
qualities of sharpness mixed with smoothness that I can't get any other way.
They almost seem to "melt" things, like the brickwork here:
http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/oiljug.jpg

So - well - Hi then  :-)

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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-10 Thread Jack Davis
Most welcome, Jim,
Very much like your shot. Does the green "thing" at the top edge have
any reason for being? Would be too tight a crop to get rid of it,
obviously.
Unknown clutter at left, while color complimentary, is a bit
distracting.
Wall, jug and stand are very nice elements.
You didn't ask for comments, so hope OK.(?)

Jack


--- jim kerslake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just saying Hi, from Yorkshire UK.
> Thought I might join your rather prolific list for so long as my
> mailbox can
> stand it.
> 
> I have been taking photos for a couple of months - no idea what
> brought it
> on.  Some kind of madness.
> 
> I mostly enjoy using my father's old Pentax Spotmatic F with a broken
> lightmeter.
> I have another Spotmatic (not F) which actually works, but I really
> don't
> enjoy fiddling about with that black metering switch on the side.
> 
> I did buy myself a digital SLR recently -
> (not a Pentax - sorry - I wanted anti-shake in the body at a time
> when
> Konica-Minolta was the obvious and very affordable choice),
> but I dunno - I'm more of a film type I think.
> I only really enjoy using the D-SLR when I stick old M42 Asahi Super
> Multi
> Coated Takumar lenses onto it.
> So I consider the results of that to be at least half-Pentax.
> 
> I am obsessed with old Takumar lenses, since they seem to have
> magical
> qualities of sharpness mixed with smoothness that I can't get any
> other way.
> They almost seem to "melt" things, like the brickwork here:
> http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/oiljug.jpg
> 
> So - well - Hi then  :-)
> 
> -- jim
> 
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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-10 Thread jim kerslake
comments very welcome - thanks.

It was supposed to be a 'test' shot, the first time I ever got the 135mm
f/3.5 Takumar to work on my new D-SLR
(which was a bit heart-stoppingly scary in that horrible techno-stress way)
so the result has always been tinged with that triumph!

They're just pebbles on an outdoor set of garden shelves -
crop was problematic, leaving more in or taking more out..:
http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/bottle_1.jpg

Since it's my yard, I could always remove the pebbles and shelf  -
the latter mostly falling to bits on their own anyway  ;-)

cheers,
jim




- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: just stopping by


> Most welcome, Jim,
> Very much like your shot. Does the green "thing" at the top edge have
> any reason for being? Would be too tight a crop to get rid of it,
> obviously.
> Unknown clutter at left, while color complimentary, is a bit
> distracting.
> Wall, jug and stand are very nice elements.
> You didn't ask for comments, so hope OK.(?)
>
> Jack
>
>
> --- jim kerslake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Just saying Hi, from Yorkshire UK.
> > Thought I might join your rather prolific list for so long as my
> > mailbox can
> > stand it.
> >
> > I have been taking photos for a couple of months - no idea what
> > brought it
> > on.  Some kind of madness.
> >
> > I mostly enjoy using my father's old Pentax Spotmatic F with a broken
> > lightmeter.
> > I have another Spotmatic (not F) which actually works, but I really
> > don't
> > enjoy fiddling about with that black metering switch on the side.
> >
> > I did buy myself a digital SLR recently -
> > (not a Pentax - sorry - I wanted anti-shake in the body at a time
> > when
> > Konica-Minolta was the obvious and very affordable choice),
> > but I dunno - I'm more of a film type I think.
> > I only really enjoy using the D-SLR when I stick old M42 Asahi Super
> > Multi
> > Coated Takumar lenses onto it.
> > So I consider the results of that to be at least half-Pentax.
> >
> > I am obsessed with old Takumar lenses, since they seem to have
> > magical
> > qualities of sharpness mixed with smoothness that I can't get any
> > other way.
> > They almost seem to "melt" things, like the brickwork here:
> > http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/oiljug.jpg
> >
> > So - well - Hi then  :-)
> >
> > -- jim
> >
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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-10 Thread Jack Davis
I may be giving you more than you are looking for, but I'll comment
about this image as well.
Now that I know and can see the pebbles (stones) they don't bother me.
The white near door frame and dark background bit of wall do detract,
however.
The wonderfully shaped jug against the complimentary wall (as placed on
the stand) and nothing else, seems to me worth trying. How about moving
the set up to the left to get rid of the "peek-o-boo" green thing?

Jack

--- jim kerslake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> comments very welcome - thanks.
> 
> It was supposed to be a 'test' shot, the first time I ever got the
> 135mm
> f/3.5 Takumar to work on my new D-SLR
> (which was a bit heart-stoppingly scary in that horrible
> techno-stress way)
> so the result has always been tinged with that triumph!
> 
> They're just pebbles on an outdoor set of garden shelves -
> crop was problematic, leaving more in or taking more out..:
> http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/bottle_1.jpg
> 
> Since it's my yard, I could always remove the pebbles and shelf  -
> the latter mostly falling to bits on their own anyway  ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 4:25 PM
> Subject: Re: just stopping by
> 
> 
> > Most welcome, Jim,
> > Very much like your shot. Does the green "thing" at the top edge
> have
> > any reason for being? Would be too tight a crop to get rid of it,
> > obviously.
> > Unknown clutter at left, while color complimentary, is a bit
> > distracting.
> > Wall, jug and stand are very nice elements.
> > You didn't ask for comments, so hope OK.(?)
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> > --- jim kerslake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Just saying Hi, from Yorkshire UK.
> > > Thought I might join your rather prolific list for so long as my
> > > mailbox can
> > > stand it.
> > >
> > > I have been taking photos for a couple of months - no idea what
> > > brought it
> > > on.  Some kind of madness.
> > >
> > > I mostly enjoy using my father's old Pentax Spotmatic F with a
> broken
> > > lightmeter.
> > > I have another Spotmatic (not F) which actually works, but I
> really
> > > don't
> > > enjoy fiddling about with that black metering switch on the side.
> > >
> > > I did buy myself a digital SLR recently -
> > > (not a Pentax - sorry - I wanted anti-shake in the body at a time
> > > when
> > > Konica-Minolta was the obvious and very affordable choice),
> > > but I dunno - I'm more of a film type I think.
> > > I only really enjoy using the D-SLR when I stick old M42 Asahi
> Super
> > > Multi
> > > Coated Takumar lenses onto it.
> > > So I consider the results of that to be at least half-Pentax.
> > >
> > > I am obsessed with old Takumar lenses, since they seem to have
> > > magical
> > > qualities of sharpness mixed with smoothness that I can't get any
> > > other way.
> > > They almost seem to "melt" things, like the brickwork here:
> > > http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/oiljug.jpg
> > >
> > > So - well - Hi then  :-)
> > >
> > > -- jim
> > >
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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Welcome to the list. I'm a fan of the old SMC Taks as well, although  
I rarely use them these days.   Very nice photo. I'll look forward to  
seeing more of your work.
Paul Stenquist
On Jul 11, 2006, at 4:08 AM, jim kerslake wrote:

> Just saying Hi, from Yorkshire UK.
> Thought I might join your rather prolific list for so long as my  
> mailbox can
> stand it.
>
> I have been taking photos for a couple of months - no idea what  
> brought it
> on.  Some kind of madness.
>
> I mostly enjoy using my father's old Pentax Spotmatic F with a broken
> lightmeter.
> I have another Spotmatic (not F) which actually works, but I really  
> don't
> enjoy fiddling about with that black metering switch on the side.
>
> I did buy myself a digital SLR recently -
> (not a Pentax - sorry - I wanted anti-shake in the body at a time when
> Konica-Minolta was the obvious and very affordable choice),
> but I dunno - I'm more of a film type I think.
> I only really enjoy using the D-SLR when I stick old M42 Asahi  
> Super Multi
> Coated Takumar lenses onto it.
> So I consider the results of that to be at least half-Pentax.
>
> I am obsessed with old Takumar lenses, since they seem to have magical
> qualities of sharpness mixed with smoothness that I can't get any  
> other way.
> They almost seem to "melt" things, like the brickwork here:
> http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/oiljug.jpg
>
> So - well - Hi then  :-)
>
> -- jim
>
>
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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
I wouldn't try to crop the green thing, but I might clone it out. The  
only thing that bothers me about this is the slightly off center  
vertical. I would rotate the image about 1 degree clockwise. But  
again, I think it's a very nice shot.
Paul
On Jul 10, 2006, at 8:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> I may be giving you more than you are looking for, but I'll comment
> about this image as well.
> Now that I know and can see the pebbles (stones) they don't bother me.
> The white near door frame and dark background bit of wall do detract,
> however.
> The wonderfully shaped jug against the complimentary wall (as  
> placed on
> the stand) and nothing else, seems to me worth trying. How about  
> moving
> the set up to the left to get rid of the "peek-o-boo" green thing?
>
> Jack
>
> --- jim kerslake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> comments very welcome - thanks.
>>
>> It was supposed to be a 'test' shot, the first time I ever got the
>> 135mm
>> f/3.5 Takumar to work on my new D-SLR
>> (which was a bit heart-stoppingly scary in that horrible
>> techno-stress way)
>> so the result has always been tinged with that triumph!
>>
>> They're just pebbles on an outdoor set of garden shelves -
>> crop was problematic, leaving more in or taking more out..:
>> http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/bottle_1.jpg
>>
>> Since it's my yard, I could always remove the pebbles and shelf  -
>> the latter mostly falling to bits on their own anyway  ;-)
>>
>> cheers,
>> jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 4:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: just stopping by
>>
>>
>>> Most welcome, Jim,
>>> Very much like your shot. Does the green "thing" at the top edge
>> have
>>> any reason for being? Would be too tight a crop to get rid of it,
>>> obviously.
>>> Unknown clutter at left, while color complimentary, is a bit
>>> distracting.
>>> Wall, jug and stand are very nice elements.
>>> You didn't ask for comments, so hope OK.(?)
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>>
>>> --- jim kerslake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just saying Hi, from Yorkshire UK.
>>>> Thought I might join your rather prolific list for so long as my
>>>> mailbox can
>>>> stand it.
>>>>
>>>> I have been taking photos for a couple of months - no idea what
>>>> brought it
>>>> on.  Some kind of madness.
>>>>
>>>> I mostly enjoy using my father's old Pentax Spotmatic F with a
>> broken
>>>> lightmeter.
>>>> I have another Spotmatic (not F) which actually works, but I
>> really
>>>> don't
>>>> enjoy fiddling about with that black metering switch on the side.
>>>>
>>>> I did buy myself a digital SLR recently -
>>>> (not a Pentax - sorry - I wanted anti-shake in the body at a time
>>>> when
>>>> Konica-Minolta was the obvious and very affordable choice),
>>>> but I dunno - I'm more of a film type I think.
>>>> I only really enjoy using the D-SLR when I stick old M42 Asahi
>> Super
>>>> Multi
>>>> Coated Takumar lenses onto it.
>>>> So I consider the results of that to be at least half-Pentax.
>>>>
>>>> I am obsessed with old Takumar lenses, since they seem to have
>>>> magical
>>>> qualities of sharpness mixed with smoothness that I can't get any
>>>> other way.
>>>> They almost seem to "melt" things, like the brickwork here:
>>>> http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/oiljug.jpg
>>>>
>>>> So - well - Hi then  :-)
>>>>
>>>> -- jim
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-10 Thread Joe Strain
I have a small stable of Pentax lenses and they are
not described as "old" they are "classic"

My spotties's meters WORK and I prefer my Sekonic
L-28C incident light meter. 

Yeah, I DO use the Pentax spotmeter for casual work,
but My Sekonic has save me' arse too many times to
disregard. besides, it needS NO BATTERIES!

Tell me, does Yorkshire have PUBS older then the US?
One of my friends is a Yorkshireman who rubbed that
salt in my wounds once when I served him barbequed
roast TURKEY...He and his family stripped it to the
carcass.



Best regards!

Yodar in orlando


> On Jul 11, 2006, at 4:08 AM, jim kerslake wrote:
> 
> > Just saying Hi, from Yorkshire UK.
 Thought I might join your rather prolific list for
so long as my   mailbox can stand it.

I have been taking photos for a couple of months -
no idea what   brought it on.  Some kind of madness.
> >
I mostly enjoy using my father's old Pentax Spotmatic
F with a broken  lightmeter. I have another Spotmatic
(not F) which actually works, but I really  
don't enjoy fiddling about with that black metering
switch on the side.
 
I'm more of a film type I think. I only really enjoy
using the D-SLR when I stick old M42 Asahi   Super
Multi Coated Takumar lenses onto it.
 So I consider the results of that to be at least
half-Pentax.
I am obsessed with old Takumar lenses, since they
 seem to have magical qualities of sharpness mixed
with smoothness that I can't get any   other way. They
almost seem to "melt" things, like the
 brickwork here:
> http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/oiljug.jpg
> > So - well - Hi then  :-)
> >
> > -- jim
>

Yodar
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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-10 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Strain"
Subject: Re: just stopping by



> Tell me, does Yorkshire have PUBS older then the US?
> One of my friends is a Yorkshireman who rubbed that
> salt in my wounds once when I served him barbequed
> roast TURKEY...He and his family stripped it to the
> carcass.

My Sister in Law would tell you that there are people living in Yorkshire 
that are older than the US.

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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

> Just saying Hi, from Yorkshire UK.

Just saying "Shalom" from a little town just south of Tel Aviv (IL 
(Israel)) ;-)

> Thought I might join your rather prolific list for so long as my mailbox can
> stand it.

You're most welcome. Now, you'd have to add your prolificy to the 
prolificy of the list ;-).

> I have been taking photos for a couple of months - no idea what brought it
> on.  Some kind of madness.

Or was it creativity streak?!

> I did buy myself a digital SLR recently -
> (not a Pentax - sorry - I wanted anti-shake in the body at a time when
> Konica-Minolta was the obvious and very affordable choice),
> but I dunno - I'm more of a film type I think.
> I only really enjoy using the D-SLR when I stick old M42 Asahi Super Multi
> Coated Takumar lenses onto it.
> So I consider the results of that to be at least half-Pentax.

If you use M42 glass, you could buy yourself a "proper" DSLR, and be 
full-Pentax ;-).

> I am obsessed with old Takumar lenses, since they seem to have magical
> qualities of sharpness mixed with smoothness that I can't get any other way.
> They almost seem to "melt" things, like the brickwork here:
> http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/oiljug.jpg

Fascinating picture!

> So - well - Hi then  :-)

Shalom again.

Boris

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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-10 Thread Cotty
On 11/7/06, jim kerslake, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Just saying Hi, from Yorkshire UK.

[snip].

Yo.

Cotty in the sarf of England mate innit.

>I only really enjoy using the D-SLR when I stick old M42 Asahi Super Multi
>Coated Takumar lenses onto it.
>So I consider the results of that to be at least half-Pentax.

I do similar nutty things:



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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-11 Thread Jostein Øksne
Welcome to the list, Jim!

If you've been lurking for more than a couple of days you will have
noticed a few simple guidelines to its usage.

I think number one is "don't believe anything that Frank Theriault,
Cotty and Mark Roberts say". My premonition says that this list will
grow in near future ...:-)

My personal number one is actually "remember the delete button". Just
to counteract the... um... prolification.

Regarding your shot and the observation of smoothness, I assume you
mean the out of focus areas? I couldn't agree more. It has a lovely
softness about it. Maybe you are familiar with the term "bokeh"?

>From past discussions on this forum I've learned that this particular
trade-off between sharpness and bokeh is indeed one of the design
characteristics of Pentax and Takumars.

Greetings from Oslo, Norway,

Jostein

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> Just saying Hi, from Yorkshire UK.
> Thought I might join your rather prolific list for so long as my mailbox can
> stand it.
>
> I have been taking photos for a couple of months - no idea what brought it
> on.  Some kind of madness.
>
> I mostly enjoy using my father's old Pentax Spotmatic F with a broken
> lightmeter.
> I have another Spotmatic (not F) which actually works, but I really don't
> enjoy fiddling about with that black metering switch on the side.
>
> I did buy myself a digital SLR recently -
> (not a Pentax - sorry - I wanted anti-shake in the body at a time when
> Konica-Minolta was the obvious and very affordable choice),
> but I dunno - I'm more of a film type I think.
> I only really enjoy using the D-SLR when I stick old M42 Asahi Super Multi
> Coated Takumar lenses onto it.
> So I consider the results of that to be at least half-Pentax.
>
> I am obsessed with old Takumar lenses, since they seem to have magical
> qualities of sharpness mixed with smoothness that I can't get any other way.
> They almost seem to "melt" things, like the brickwork here:
> http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/oiljug.jpg
>
> So - well - Hi then  :-)
>
> jim

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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-11 Thread jim kerslake
Thanks to everyone for the welcome :-)

And for comments on the photo -
never put one up for comment before, but it is really instructive to hear it
through someone else's eyes
(um - or whatever - you know what I mean!)


Just a few quick replies:


From: "Joe Strain"


> I have a small stable of Pentax lenses and they are
> not described as "old" they are "classic"

Ah - great -
I wonder - can I apply the same terminology to myself..?
I'm feeling more classic by the day...

You must have a lot, if they fill a small stable though ;-)


> I prefer my Sekonic
> L-28C incident light meter.

looks good - and not too expensive?
I have a truly 'classic' Leningrad 4 -
which has the advantage that when I stare at it, everybody assumes that I'm
making a phone call  :-)


> Tell me, does Yorkshire have PUBS older then the US?

Almost everything in Yorkshire is older than the US  ;-)


From: "Boris Liberman"

> If you use M42 glass, you could buy yourself a "proper" DSLR, and be
> full-Pentax ;-).

I'll save pennies and see what they're coming out with next...


From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> >Just saying Hi, from Yorkshire UK.
>
> [snip].
>
> Yo.
>
> Cotty in the sarf of England mate innit.

Now then - think on lad...


> I do similar nutty things:
>
> 


LOL - love the meat cleaver...
does that come as standard with the Canon DSLR kit these days?
So many potential uses...


From: "Jostein Øksne"

> Regarding your shot and the observation of smoothness, I assume you
> mean the out of focus areas? I couldn't agree more. It has a lovely
> softness about it. Maybe you are familiar with the term "bokeh"?
>
> From past discussions on this forum I've learned that this particular
> trade-off between sharpness and bokeh is indeed one of the design
> characteristics of Pentax and Takumars.

It's incredible how they do it -
I sometimes find modern super-sharpness a bit "much" -
do you know if the more modern Pentax lenses continue to behave like that,
or did it die a death in the 70s along with the Tank Top and the Space
Hopper?
(does anyone outside the UK have a clue what I'm talking about?)

Cheers,
Jim


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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-11 Thread Doug Franklin
jim kerslake wrote:

> do you know if the more modern Pentax lenses continue to behave like that,

Yes, they do.

> or did it die a death in the 70s along with the Tank Top and the Space
> Hopper?
> (does anyone outside the UK have a clue what I'm talking about?)

I've never heard of a "Space Hopper", but we had tank tops here in the
US, too.  Still have them ... they seem to be enjoying a minor
resurgence around here lately (southeast US).

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Re: just stopping by

2006-07-11 Thread Jostein Øksne
 jim kerslake wrote:

> It's incredible how they do it -
> I sometimes find modern super-sharpness a bit "much" -
> do you know if the more modern Pentax lenses continue to behave like that,

There is still something special about the rendering from Pentax
lenses. They don't exhibit the typical super-sharpness of the high-end
telephotos from Canon and Nikon, but they're certainly sharp enough.

One thing that puzzles me a bit, though, is the way the optimal focus
point with Pentax lenses seem to be at the very back of the "almost in
focus" range. That's illustrated quite well with your shot too, btw.
The way the wall behind the jug rapidly falls into a soft blur, while
there's more detail in front of the focus plane.

My fairly modern FA* 400/5.6 behaves exactly the same way.

> or did it die a death in the 70s along with the Tank Top and the Space
> Hopper?
> (does anyone outside the UK have a clue what I'm talking about?)

hehe. Had to google space hopper. :-)



Cheers,
Jostein

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