Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
Adam Maas wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:56 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Only problem with the Tamron SP 90 is that you need a 1:1 adapter or 2x SP TC to get 1:1. Otherwise it's a superb lens as both a macro and a short tele. I'm rather fond of mine. -Adam Only the older, adaptall, f2.5. The later, f2.8, autofocus version goes to 1:1. To be exact, the f2.5 in Adaptall-2 or AF versions goes to 1:2, the f2.8 in Adaptall-2 and AF versions goes to 1:1 (yes, both exist in AD2 and AF forms, but the f2.5 AF is rare and the f2.8 in AD2 is extremely rare). We were talking about the f2.5 version here. This has been chewing at me for about a week. I knew the 2.8 was available manual focus - but not, afaik, ADII. Plenty of pictures out there of alleged ADII lenses but they all seem to be ordinary mounts to me. But then http://www.tamron.co.jp/data/a2-lens/72b.htm The last of the ADII lenses (1996) by the look of it. The 2.5 AF? Never heard of, never mind seen, it. But now I have. http://www.tamron.co.jp/data/af-lens/52e.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:56 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Only problem with the Tamron SP 90 is that you need a 1:1 adapter or 2x SP TC to get 1:1. Otherwise it's a superb lens as both a macro and a short tele. I'm rather fond of mine. -Adam Only the older, adaptall, f2.5. The later, f2.8, autofocus version goes to 1:1. To be exact, the f2.5 in Adaptall-2 or AF versions goes to 1:2, the f2.8 in Adaptall-2 and AF versions goes to 1:1 (yes, both exist in AD2 and AF forms, but the f2.5 AF is rare and the f2.8 in AD2 is extremely rare). We were talking about the f2.5 version here. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
The 90mm f2.5 Tamron SP macro adapatall2 lens ususally sells for under $200 on ebay and is a great lens in itself, especially at that price. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of CheekyGeek Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro The 105mm Series 1 Macro is the same as the Kiron 105mm macro and should sell for the same price (from what I've seen around $300). Another higher priced option that people seem to speak highly of is the Tamron SP 90mm macro. On 2/22/09, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:13:20PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: # So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and # see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. # # # # Buy a Kiron/Lester Dine or Vivitar 105mm f2.8 in KA form for much cheaper? OK, what are the options for 100mm-ish macros that also work well as general purpose lenses? What are their strengths and weaknesses? 105mm f2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro. An outstandingly sharp lens and usually relatively inexpensive on the used market. On the LX and *ist D I used it as a general purpose short tele, portrait lens and it was a perfect 1:1 macro lens. Christian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I like smoke and lightning Heavy metal thunder Chasin' with the wind And the feelin' that I'm under -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
Only problem with the Tamron SP 90 is that you need a 1:1 adapter or 2x SP TC to get 1:1. Otherwise it's a superb lens as both a macro and a short tele. I'm rather fond of mine. -Adam On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:18 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: The 90mm f2.5 Tamron SP macro adapatall2 lens ususally sells for under $200 on ebay and is a great lens in itself, especially at that price. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of CheekyGeek Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro The 105mm Series 1 Macro is the same as the Kiron 105mm macro and should sell for the same price (from what I've seen around $300). Another higher priced option that people seem to speak highly of is the Tamron SP 90mm macro. On 2/22/09, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:13:20PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: # So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and # see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. # # # # Buy a Kiron/Lester Dine or Vivitar 105mm f2.8 in KA form for much cheaper? OK, what are the options for 100mm-ish macros that also work well as general purpose lenses? What are their strengths and weaknesses? 105mm f2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro. An outstandingly sharp lens and usually relatively inexpensive on the used market. On the LX and *ist D I used it as a general purpose short tele, portrait lens and it was a perfect 1:1 macro lens. Christian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I like smoke and lightning Heavy metal thunder Chasin' with the wind And the feelin' that I'm under -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
for occasianal 1:1 ( I rarely need that, especially with APS format) you can use an extension tube or an achromatic diopter too but if I was gonna do 1:1 a lot I would rather use a symmetrical enlarging type lens on a bellows. At 1:1, nothing will match a good symmetrical because well, your 1:1. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 8:13 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro Only problem with the Tamron SP 90 is that you need a 1:1 adapter or 2x SP TC to get 1:1. Otherwise it's a superb lens as both a macro and a short tele. I'm rather fond of mine. -Adam On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:18 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: The 90mm f2.5 Tamron SP macro adapatall2 lens ususally sells for under $200 on ebay and is a great lens in itself, especially at that price. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of CheekyGeek Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro The 105mm Series 1 Macro is the same as the Kiron 105mm macro and should sell for the same price (from what I've seen around $300). Another higher priced option that people seem to speak highly of is the Tamron SP 90mm macro. On 2/22/09, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:13:20PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: # So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and # see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. # # # # Buy a Kiron/Lester Dine or Vivitar 105mm f2.8 in KA form for much cheaper? OK, what are the options for 100mm-ish macros that also work well as general purpose lenses? What are their strengths and weaknesses? 105mm f2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro. An outstandingly sharp lens and usually relatively inexpensive on the used market. On the LX and *ist D I used it as a general purpose short tele, portrait lens and it was a perfect 1:1 macro lens. Christian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I like smoke and lightning Heavy metal thunder Chasin' with the wind And the feelin' that I'm under -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Only problem with the Tamron SP 90 is that you need a 1:1 adapter or 2x SP TC to get 1:1. Otherwise it's a superb lens as both a macro and a short tele. I'm rather fond of mine. -Adam Only the older, adaptall, f2.5. The later, f2.8, autofocus version goes to 1:1. On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:18 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: The 90mm f2.5 Tamron SP macro adapatall2 lens ususally sells for under $200 on ebay and is a great lens in itself, especially at that price. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of CheekyGeek Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro The 105mm Series 1 Macro is the same as the Kiron 105mm macro and should sell for the same price (from what I've seen around $300). Another higher priced option that people seem to speak highly of is the Tamron SP 90mm macro. On 2/22/09, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:13:20PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: # So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and # see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. # # # # Buy a Kiron/Lester Dine or Vivitar 105mm f2.8 in KA form for much cheaper? OK, what are the options for 100mm-ish macros that also work well as general purpose lenses? What are their strengths and weaknesses? 105mm f2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro. An outstandingly sharp lens and usually relatively inexpensive on the used market. On the LX and *ist D I used it as a general purpose short tele, portrait lens and it was a perfect 1:1 macro lens. Christian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I like smoke and lightning Heavy metal thunder Chasin' with the wind And the feelin' that I'm under -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
The 105mm Series 1 Macro is the same as the Kiron 105mm macro and should sell for the same price (from what I've seen around $300). Another higher priced option that people seem to speak highly of is the Tamron SP 90mm macro. On 2/22/09, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:13:20PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: # So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and # see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. # # # # Buy a Kiron/Lester Dine or Vivitar 105mm f2.8 in KA form for much cheaper? OK, what are the options for 100mm-ish macros that also work well as general purpose lenses? What are their strengths and weaknesses? 105mm f2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro. An outstandingly sharp lens and usually relatively inexpensive on the used market. On the LX and *ist D I used it as a general purpose short tele, portrait lens and it was a perfect 1:1 macro lens. Christian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I like smoke and lightning Heavy metal thunder Chasin' with the wind And the feelin' that I'm under -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:13:20PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: # So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and # see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. # # # # Buy a Kiron/Lester Dine or Vivitar 105mm f2.8 in KA form for much cheaper? OK, what are the options for 100mm-ish macros that also work well as general purpose lenses? What are their strengths and weaknesses? 105mm f2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro. An outstandingly sharp lens and usually relatively inexpensive on the used market. On the LX and *ist D I used it as a general purpose short tele, portrait lens and it was a perfect 1:1 macro lens. Christian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
I've got a DFA 50/2.8 macro and it works great. But, I find myself wanting the 100mm macro. I can't really justify shelling out the money for a new one right now. I see a few possibilities: Act like a grownup and just wait until I have the money. Put my macro focusing 2X TC on my PFA50/1.4 for a longer macro. Put my 1.4X TC on my FA 77 for 108mm f/2.5 portrait lens Sell my 50, and use the proceeds to buy a 100. Find someone selling the 100 used. Sell the 50 and buy a used 100. So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. -- Photographs are like sentences, the best ones have both subjects and verbs. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I've got a DFA 50/2.8 macro and it works great. But, I find myself wanting the 100mm macro. I can't really justify shelling out the money for a new one right now. I see a few possibilities: Act like a grownup and just wait until I have the money. Put my macro focusing 2X TC on my PFA50/1.4 for a longer macro. Put my 1.4X TC on my FA 77 for 108mm f/2.5 portrait lens Sell my 50, and use the proceeds to buy a 100. Find someone selling the 100 used. Sell the 50 and buy a used 100. So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. Buy a Kiron/Lester Dine or Vivitar 105mm f2.8 in KA form for much cheaper? -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:13:20PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: # So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and # see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. # # # # Buy a Kiron/Lester Dine or Vivitar 105mm f2.8 in KA form for much cheaper? OK, what are the options for 100mm-ish macros that also work well as general purpose lenses? What are their strengths and weaknesses? -- Photographs are like sentences, the best ones have both subjects and verbs. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Feb 21, 2009, at 16:08 , Larry Colen wrote: Sell my 50, and use the proceeds to buy a 100. Sell the 50 Macro, or Find someone selling the 100 used. Unlikely, but you can try. Sell the 50 and buy a used 100. Duplication. Buy the Sigma 150 Macro. (150mm on a FF, 225mm on your digital) The ability to distance yourself from the subject is usually desirable. Get a set of extension tubes. No glass to degrade image. Get rid of your 2X macro focusing teleconverter, replace both TCs when you can. Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Feb 21, 2009, at 16:34 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Buy the Sigma 150 Macro. Do I mean 180mm? Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:13:20PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: # So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and # see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. # # # # Buy a Kiron/Lester Dine or Vivitar 105mm f2.8 in KA form for much cheaper? OK, what are the options for 100mm-ish macros that also work well as general purpose lenses? What are their strengths and weaknesses? There's a few options. All have long focus throws which is the biggest issue in using a macro as a day-to-day lens. The Kiron/lester Dine and Vivitar 105's are superb macros that make very good general purpose lenses. They're at their best at macro distances but still very good at normal distances The Tamron 90's are rightly legendary as the 'Portrait' macro. Great macro, great portrait lenses. Available most commonly as a adaptall-2 f2.5 version that does 1:2 or an AF f2.8 version that does 1:1. they do well at infinity, but not as well as their 10' performance. The Zeiss ZK Makro-Planar 100/2 is probably the best option available. Unfortunately it costs more than any 3 other options combined. Which is too bad since its worth every penny. The various Pentax 100/2.8's are all excellent. The FA is probably the best of the lot, with the D-FA's coming second. The FA 100/3.5 is good but not nearly as good and somewhat poorly built as its a SMC-coated version of the common Cosina design usually seen from Phoenix or Vivitar. 100/4's are older designs but rather good in their own right although the slow aperture makes them less useful for general use. The Tokina and Vivitar 90mm's are also excellent, but rather more rare and difficult to find in the KA versions that are better suited to digital use. The Sigma 105's are good all-round lenses but I'd consider them only if the other options aren't available. You could also convert a Leica or Contax 100/2.8 via a Leitax adaptor. The Leica 100/2.8 APO is the sharpest ~100mm macro ever made. The Contax is merely excellent and much cheaper. And last of all is the Voigtlander APO-Lanthar 125/2.5. It's a bit long and a bit rare, but is second only to the Leica in performance. Used copies go for serious money though ($700-1000 typically) as it's rare and it didn't make its reputation until after production ceased. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Feb 21, 2009, at 16:34 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Buy the Sigma 150 Macro. Do I mean 180mm? No, the 150's better than the 180 and cheaper besides. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
2009/2/22 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: And last of all is the Voigtlander APO-Lanthar 125/2.5. It's a bit long and a bit rare, but is second only to the Leica in performance. Used copies go for serious money though ($700-1000 typically) as it's rare and it didn't make its reputation until after production ceased. I like this lens so much I have 2. One for the Pentax one for the Nikon. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Feb 21, 2009, at 16:36 , Joseph McAllister wrote: On Feb 21, 2009, at 16:34 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Buy the Sigma 150 Macro. Do I mean 180mm? Yes, I do. The Sigma 180mm f/3.5 EX DG APO Macro IF lens is a high performance telemacro lens that can focus from infinity to full 1:1 lifesize reproduction without accessories. Convenient for photographing subjects which are not easily approached, the 180mm f/3.5 Macro features apochromatic design, two SLD (Special Low Dispersion) glass elements, and a floating inner focus (FIF) system. A focus limiter switch aids in faster AF by restricting the movement of the focusing mechanism to a smaller portion of its enormous range. Usable with Sigma's 1.4X EX teleconverter as a 252mm f/ 4.9 lens or with the 2X EX teleconverter as a 360mm f/7 lens in manual focus only. This lens is designed as a high-quality macro lens, good for film or digital SLR cameras. The improved DG lens design corrects for various aberrations. This macro lens is specially coated to get the best color balance whilst cutting down on ghosting caused by reflections from the digital image sensor. The lens provides the utmost correction against lateral chromatic aberration which is a serious problem for digital SLR cameras. • Close focus capability of 18 Sigma # 105109- $725 at BH($26 a month if you're strapped) :-) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Feb 21, 2009, at 16:39 , Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Feb 21, 2009, at 16:34 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Buy the Sigma 150 Macro. Do I mean 180mm? No, the 150's better than the 180 and cheaper besides. Don't see a 150 listed in Pentax mount. Were you talking 105mm? Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:38:42PM -0500, Adam Maas scripsit: The Zeiss ZK Makro-Planar 100/2 is probably the best option available. Unfortunately it costs more than any 3 other options combined. Which is too bad since its worth every penny. Ok, _why_ is it worth every penny? I've been intermittently tempted by it because I use the FA 100mm macro a lot. (Whether this is because it's my longest prime or because 100mm is about the right length for a lot of things like indoor birds at the zoo is hard for me to determine.) But it is not impossible with Pentax and Zeiss relative pricing to wind up paying a lot of money for about the same lens quality, so I'm curious why you say this about the ZK. -- Graydon, who figures the odds of a DA* 150/2 macro are lamentably slight. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Feb 21, 2009, at 16:39 , Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Feb 21, 2009, at 16:34 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Buy the Sigma 150 Macro. Do I mean 180mm? No, the 150's better than the 180 and cheaper besides. Don't see a 150 listed in Pentax mount. Were you talking 105mm? Joseph McAllister No, I was referring to the 150. Didn't know it wasn't in K mount. It's one of those Sigma's that makes you wish all Sigma's were that good. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:38:42PM -0500, Adam Maas scripsit: The Zeiss ZK Makro-Planar 100/2 is probably the best option available. Unfortunately it costs more than any 3 other options combined. Which is too bad since its worth every penny. Ok, _why_ is it worth every penny? I've been intermittently tempted by it because I use the FA 100mm macro a lot. (Whether this is because it's my longest prime or because 100mm is about the right length for a lot of things like indoor birds at the zoo is hard for me to determine.) But it is not impossible with Pentax and Zeiss relative pricing to wind up paying a lot of money for about the same lens quality, so I'm curious why you say this about the ZK. -- Graydon, who figures the odds of a DA* 150/2 macro are lamentably slight. It's incredibly sharp, has great bokeh, great colour, that legendary Zeiss 3D look and is f2. Downsides pretty much come down to it being bloody expensive ($1700 or so), only goes to 1:2 and isn't quite APO corrected. The design is actually related to the 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar Cosina made as a Voigtlander SL lens prior to getting the contract to build the ZF/ZK line for Zeiss. You're pretty much getting the best ~100mm f2 available and one of the best ~100mm macros available all in one package (and it costs less than buying 1 of each). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:56:14PM -0500, Adam Maas scripsit: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:38:42PM -0500, Adam Maas scripsit: The Zeiss ZK Makro-Planar 100/2 is probably the best option available. Unfortunately it costs more than any 3 other options combined. Which is too bad since its worth every penny. Ok, _why_ is it worth every penny? [snip description of my existing temptation] It's incredibly sharp, has great bokeh, great colour, that legendary Zeiss 3D look and is f2. Downsides pretty much come down to it being bloody expensive ($1700 or so), only goes to 1:2 and isn't quite APO corrected. The design is actually related to the 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar Cosina made as a Voigtlander SL lens prior to getting the contract to build the ZF/ZK line for Zeiss. You're pretty much getting the best ~100mm f2 available and one of the best ~100mm macros available all in one package (and it costs less than buying 1 of each). That would completely fail to reduce the existing temptation in any way whatsoever. Thanks! -- Graydon, contemplating how many sock fulls of pennies that might be. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
Larry, Didn't you ask this question once before? You won't get a different answer this time. You won't get satisfactory macro pictures with a TC, and you cant turn any of your existing lenses into a 100mm macro. A macro extension tube (clear tube, no glass)on the 77mm will get you something. Your options are: 1) Old Pentax K or A 100mm f4 Macro - slow but only $100+. (You might find an old screwmount Takumar, but still $100+) 2) 3rd party 100mm f2.5 or f2.8 Macro (Vivitar, Kiron, Lester Dine,...) $100+ (Folks argue, but most all the '70's -'80's Macros have good reps.) 3) Pentax A 100mm f2.8 Macro - very nice but $400+ (my favorite) 4) Pentax F or FA 100mm f2.8 Macro - same design(?) as #3 but autofocus - $400+ 5) Latest Pentax D FA 100mm f2.8 Macro - $400+ 6) Other exotic offerings like the Voightlander 125mm f2.5 Macro - $750+ Pick your poison. You want the 100mm working distance and 1 to 1 Macro magnifcation. The extra speed of f2.8 is good too, so you can see what you're shooting. But nobody is gonna sell you a $400+ lens for $50, and there's no way around that. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I've got a DFA 50/2.8 macro and it works great. But, I find myself wanting the 100mm macro. I can't really justify shelling out the money for a new one right now. I see a few possibilities: Act like a grownup and just wait until I have the money. Put my macro focusing 2X TC on my PFA50/1.4 for a longer macro. Put my 1.4X TC on my FA 77 for 108mm f/2.5 portrait lens Sell my 50, and use the proceeds to buy a 100. Find someone selling the 100 used. Sell the 50 and buy a used 100. So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. -- Photographs are like sentences, the best ones have both subjects and verbs. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
keep the 50 and buy a K/M/A 100mm F4.0. you will soon find you need both. The 100mm is good for smaller items, the 50 is better for larger items. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
You can sometimes find a Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 for less than $150 if you shop around. That's as good as any macro lens you can own. And autofocus is useless on a macro. - Original Message - From: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca To: Pentax-Di. scuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:13:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I've got a DFA 50/2.8 macro and it works great. But, I find myself wanting the 100mm macro. I can't really justify shelling out the money for a new one right now. I see a few possibilities: Act like a grownup and just wait until I have the money. Put my macro focusing 2X TC on my PFA50/1.4 for a longer macro. Put my 1.4X TC on my FA 77 for 108mm f/2.5 portrait lens Sell my 50, and use the proceeds to buy a 100. Find someone selling the 100 used. Sell the 50 and buy a used 100. So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. Buy a Kiron/Lester Dine or Vivitar 105mm f2.8 in KA form for much cheaper? -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
Hi Larry, I have one of these (Vivitar S1 Macro 105/2.5 by Kiron), and can confidently say that is indeed very sharp; the only flaw I found is some occasional CA / sensor blooming (I can't really tell the difference). Is very nice to handle and in my experience balances quite well with K10D/K20D or *ist bodies. I haven't done so many macros, but I dug these from my flickr stream, can get you the originals if you find them useful: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/76/196316655_709a2466a1_b.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173/369462123_698d2dd0f7_o.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/172/381362880_7463414d6a_b.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/381363061_a5359d7420_b.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/135153654_6bf0431a5c_o.jpg On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I've got a DFA 50/2.8 macro and it works great. But, I find myself wanting the 100mm macro. I can't really justify shelling out the money for a new one right now. I see a few possibilities: Act like a grownup and just wait until I have the money. Put my macro focusing 2X TC on my PFA50/1.4 for a longer macro. Put my 1.4X TC on my FA 77 for 108mm f/2.5 portrait lens Sell my 50, and use the proceeds to buy a 100. Find someone selling the 100 used. Sell the 50 and buy a used 100. So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. Buy a Kiron/Lester Dine or Vivitar 105mm f2.8 in KA form for much cheaper? -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
Love 'em, Fernando... Used to have the Adaptall 90. It was great as well. Also had the FA-100 ƒ2.8, and loved it. But it was stolen. Replaced with the D-FA 100 ƒ2.8. Difference is like between Mercedes and Fiat. Can't compare shot for shot yet. I assume it's decent. Anyway - fun macros from your Flick'rStream. On Feb 21, 2009, at 19:18 , Fernando wrote: Hi Larry, I have one of these (Vivitar S1 Macro 105/2.5 by Kiron), and can confidently say that is indeed very sharp; the only flaw I found is some occasional CA / sensor blooming (I can't really tell the difference). Is very nice to handle and in my experience balances quite well with K10D/K20D or *ist bodies. I haven't done so many macros, but I dug these from my flickr stream, can get you the originals if you find them useful: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/76/196316655_709a2466a1_b.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173/369462123_698d2dd0f7_o.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/172/381362880_7463414d6a_b.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/381363061_a5359d7420_b.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/135153654_6bf0431a5c_o.jpg Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
A while back I was offered a 100/4 macro for about $100 since a lot of my interes in the dfa 100 was as a relatively fast 100, though it would cost more, I may be better off with th 100/4 and saving up a bit more for the 50-135 as a 2.8 moderate tele that covered 100 mm. Or, considering how little macro work I actually do, a 135 m42 on my bellows. I had just recently run into a spate of shots of yard spiders. I have this bad habit of when I don't have time to use my gear, I waste time on the net shpping sor it. Like the bid I have in on a 50/1.2, which I'll almost certainly be outbid on. -- Photographs are like sentences, the best ones have both subjects and verbs. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
