Re: Waist level viewfinder question
Bill wrote: Don't forget that the K3 has the option of using a smart phone as a viewfinder. I've found this to be quite useful from time to time. I was going to suggest a flu card and your smartphone. bill -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
Here's the less expensive choice...comes with adapters to fit a number of DSLRs. -p On 12/13/2014 10:38 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Does anyone know of a waist level viewfinder that could be hooked up to the k3? Is there even such a capability? I did a quick search and couldn't find anything. Thought I'd give it a try here just in the off chance there is such s gizmo. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
> On Dec 14, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Bill wrote: > > On 14/12/2014 10:45 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: >> Big thanks everyone! The smaller one below looks like it could work, >> though the K3 isn’t listed as compatible. I’d have confirm it was >> compatible. I really like the ref converter A option even though >> it’s quite different than the option immediately below. I may run >> down to Central Camera to see if they have anything in the used >> market that would work, but now I know I have some options and what >> to look for. >> > > Don't forget that the K3 has the option of using a smart phone as a > viewfinder. I've found this to be quite useful from time to time. Got it! page 78 in manual! Totally forgot about this. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
On 14/12/2014 11:29 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: On Dec 14, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Bill wrote: Don't forget that the K3 has the option of using a smart phone as a viewfinder. I've found this to be quite useful from time to time. It does!? I’ll have to find directions for this! Didn’t know this, Bill! Big thanks! Christine That is the Flu card thing. It works remarkably well. You can use the screen on your phone as a remote viewfinder and you have some control over the camera as well. as much as it was denigrated for being a half assed tethering solution, it works at least as well, if not better than the tethering on my X-T1. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
> On Dec 14, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Bill wrote: > > On 14/12/2014 10:45 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: >> Big thanks everyone! The smaller one below looks like it could work, >> though the K3 isn’t listed as compatible. I’d have confirm it was >> compatible. I really like the ref converter A option even though >> it’s quite different than the option immediately below. I may run >> down to Central Camera to see if they have anything in the used >> market that would work, but now I know I have some options and what >> to look for. >> > > Don't forget that the K3 has the option of using a smart phone as a > viewfinder. I've found this to be quite useful from time to time. It does!? I’ll have to find directions for this! Didn’t know this, Bill! Big thanks! Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
Now that I know it was called the Zigview, they're available... http://argraph.com/Zigview/page1/Zigview_page1.htm On 12/14/2014 11:45 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Big thanks everyone! The smaller one below looks like it could work, though the K3 isn’t listed as compatible. I’d have confirm it was compatible. I really like the ref converter A option even though it’s quite different than the option immediately below. I may run down to Central Camera to see if they have anything in the used market that would work, but now I know I have some options and what to look for. Much appreciated. Cheers, Christine On Dec 14, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Here's a smaller one. http://www.photoxgear.com/2009/11/aputure-gigtube-dslr-live-view-finder/ That would be kind of perfect for waist level street shooting. Nobody thinks you are shooting from a DSLR if it isn't at your eye. On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: http://www.adorama.com/POMP7HD2.html That's one example. Its not exactly a cheap option, but for someone running video it is probably a good buy. On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: you can buy small lcd screens that plug into the hotshoe and have hdmi input. then you just run an hdmi cable from your camera to the screen. go for something low res (480-720 max) because the output in live view isn't full HD anyways I don't think. I know the LCD on the back of the camera isn't HD. On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Carlos R. wrote: El 14/12/2014 5:38, Christine Aguila escribió: Hi Everyone: Does anyone know of a waist level viewfinder that could be hooked up to the k3? Is there even such a capability? I did a quick search and couldn't find anything. Thought I'd give it a try here just in the off chance there is such s gizmo. There are the Zigview R and S electronic viewfinders which attach to the camera's eyepiece, I suppose they also work with contemporary Pentaxes. I suppose there must be others which can be hooked on the HDMI out of the camera, but I don't know of a model which works specifically with the K-3. You can see some info about Zigview models here: https://www.maxmax.com/zigview_s.htm I occasionally use a Refconverter A with my cameras, but it doesn't seem what you are looking for. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
On 14/12/2014 10:45 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Big thanks everyone! The smaller one below looks like it could work, though the K3 isn’t listed as compatible. I’d have confirm it was compatible. I really like the ref converter A option even though it’s quite different than the option immediately below. I may run down to Central Camera to see if they have anything in the used market that would work, but now I know I have some options and what to look for. Don't forget that the K3 has the option of using a smart phone as a viewfinder. I've found this to be quite useful from time to time. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
A number of years ago, at least 8 maybe 10, there was a product that attached to the viewfinder that added an electronic screen that could be used waist level. It was named Z-something or other. Can't remember the specifications, but IIRC the attachment was native Nikon, with adapters for other slr/dslr brands. I did a quick search, and like everything else that's not for sale and is older than a couple of months, unless you remember the exact name, you'll never find mention of it in the results. On 12/13/2014 11:38 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Does anyone know of a waist level viewfinder that could be hooked up to the k3? Is there even such a capability? I did a quick search and couldn't find anything. Thought I'd give it a try here just in the off chance there is such s gizmo. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
Big thanks everyone! The smaller one below looks like it could work, though the K3 isn’t listed as compatible. I’d have confirm it was compatible. I really like the ref converter A option even though it’s quite different than the option immediately below. I may run down to Central Camera to see if they have anything in the used market that would work, but now I know I have some options and what to look for. Much appreciated. Cheers, Christine > On Dec 14, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: > > Here's a smaller one. > > http://www.photoxgear.com/2009/11/aputure-gigtube-dslr-live-view-finder/ > > That would be kind of perfect for waist level street shooting. Nobody > thinks you are shooting from a DSLR if it isn't at your eye. > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> http://www.adorama.com/POMP7HD2.html >> >> That's one example. Its not exactly a cheap option, but for someone >> running video it is probably a good buy. >> >> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: >>> you can buy small lcd screens that plug into the hotshoe and have hdmi >>> input. then you just run an hdmi cable from your camera to the screen. >>> go for something low res (480-720 max) because the output in live view >>> isn't full HD anyways I don't think. I know the LCD on the back of the >>> camera isn't HD. >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Carlos R. wrote: >>>> El 14/12/2014 5:38, Christine Aguila escribió: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Everyone: >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know of a waist level viewfinder that could be hooked up to >>>>> the k3? Is there even such a capability? I did a quick search and >>>>> couldn't >>>>> find anything. Thought I'd give it a try here just in the off chance there >>>>> is such s gizmo. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> There are the Zigview R and S electronic viewfinders which attach to the >>>> camera's eyepiece, I suppose they also work with contemporary Pentaxes. I >>>> suppose there must be others which can be hooked on the HDMI out of the >>>> camera, but I don't know of a model which works specifically with the K-3. >>>> >>>> You can see some info about Zigview models here: >>>> >>>> https://www.maxmax.com/zigview_s.htm >>>> >>>> I occasionally use a Refconverter A with my cameras, but it doesn't seem >>>> what you are looking for. >>>> >>>> Carlos >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
Here's a smaller one. http://www.photoxgear.com/2009/11/aputure-gigtube-dslr-live-view-finder/ That would be kind of perfect for waist level street shooting. Nobody thinks you are shooting from a DSLR if it isn't at your eye. On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: > http://www.adorama.com/POMP7HD2.html > > That's one example. Its not exactly a cheap option, but for someone > running video it is probably a good buy. > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> you can buy small lcd screens that plug into the hotshoe and have hdmi >> input. then you just run an hdmi cable from your camera to the screen. >> go for something low res (480-720 max) because the output in live view >> isn't full HD anyways I don't think. I know the LCD on the back of the >> camera isn't HD. >> >> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Carlos R. wrote: >>> El 14/12/2014 5:38, Christine Aguila escribió: >>>> >>>> Hi Everyone: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know of a waist level viewfinder that could be hooked up to >>>> the k3? Is there even such a capability? I did a quick search and >>>> couldn't >>>> find anything. Thought I'd give it a try here just in the off chance there >>>> is such s gizmo. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> There are the Zigview R and S electronic viewfinders which attach to the >>> camera's eyepiece, I suppose they also work with contemporary Pentaxes. I >>> suppose there must be others which can be hooked on the HDMI out of the >>> camera, but I don't know of a model which works specifically with the K-3. >>> >>> You can see some info about Zigview models here: >>> >>> https://www.maxmax.com/zigview_s.htm >>> >>> I occasionally use a Refconverter A with my cameras, but it doesn't seem >>> what you are looking for. >>> >>> Carlos >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
http://www.adorama.com/POMP7HD2.html That's one example. Its not exactly a cheap option, but for someone running video it is probably a good buy. On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: > you can buy small lcd screens that plug into the hotshoe and have hdmi > input. then you just run an hdmi cable from your camera to the screen. > go for something low res (480-720 max) because the output in live view > isn't full HD anyways I don't think. I know the LCD on the back of the > camera isn't HD. > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Carlos R. wrote: >> El 14/12/2014 5:38, Christine Aguila escribió: >>> >>> Hi Everyone: >>> >>> Does anyone know of a waist level viewfinder that could be hooked up to >>> the k3? Is there even such a capability? I did a quick search and couldn't >>> find anything. Thought I'd give it a try here just in the off chance there >>> is such s gizmo. >>> >>> >> >> There are the Zigview R and S electronic viewfinders which attach to the >> camera's eyepiece, I suppose they also work with contemporary Pentaxes. I >> suppose there must be others which can be hooked on the HDMI out of the >> camera, but I don't know of a model which works specifically with the K-3. >> >> You can see some info about Zigview models here: >> >> https://www.maxmax.com/zigview_s.htm >> >> I occasionally use a Refconverter A with my cameras, but it doesn't seem >> what you are looking for. >> >> Carlos >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
you can buy small lcd screens that plug into the hotshoe and have hdmi input. then you just run an hdmi cable from your camera to the screen. go for something low res (480-720 max) because the output in live view isn't full HD anyways I don't think. I know the LCD on the back of the camera isn't HD. On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Carlos R. wrote: > El 14/12/2014 5:38, Christine Aguila escribió: >> >> Hi Everyone: >> >> Does anyone know of a waist level viewfinder that could be hooked up to >> the k3? Is there even such a capability? I did a quick search and couldn't >> find anything. Thought I'd give it a try here just in the off chance there >> is such s gizmo. >> >> > > There are the Zigview R and S electronic viewfinders which attach to the > camera's eyepiece, I suppose they also work with contemporary Pentaxes. I > suppose there must be others which can be hooked on the HDMI out of the > camera, but I don't know of a model which works specifically with the K-3. > > You can see some info about Zigview models here: > > https://www.maxmax.com/zigview_s.htm > > I occasionally use a Refconverter A with my cameras, but it doesn't seem > what you are looking for. > > Carlos > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
El 14/12/2014 5:38, Christine Aguila escribió: Hi Everyone: Does anyone know of a waist level viewfinder that could be hooked up to the k3? Is there even such a capability? I did a quick search and couldn't find anything. Thought I'd give it a try here just in the off chance there is such s gizmo. There are the Zigview R and S electronic viewfinders which attach to the camera's eyepiece, I suppose they also work with contemporary Pentaxes. I suppose there must be others which can be hooked on the HDMI out of the camera, but I don't know of a model which works specifically with the K-3. You can see some info about Zigview models here: https://www.maxmax.com/zigview_s.htm I occasionally use a Refconverter A with my cameras, but it doesn't seem what you are looking for. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waist level viewfinder question
Hi Christine - they're not exactly waist level viewfinders but if you look for refconvertors you'll find what amounts to right angle viewers which attach to the eyepiece and allow viewing while looking down - but your eye needs to up close to the device. http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/misc/focus/refconverter.jpg I have the Pentax refconvertor A which not only allows looking down but also will magnify the view. Long out of production. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Christine Aguila" Subject: Waist level viewfinder question Hi Everyone: Does anyone know of a waist level viewfinder that could be hooked up to the k3? Is there even such a capability? I did a quick search and couldn't find anything. Thought I'd give it a try here just in the off chance there is such s gizmo. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Waist level viewfinder question
Hi Everyone: Does anyone know of a waist level viewfinder that could be hooked up to the k3? Is there even such a capability? I did a quick search and couldn't find anything. Thought I'd give it a try here just in the off chance there is such s gizmo. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: waist level viewfinder ... Fwd: ZigView power?
A week or so ago we were talking about waist level finders and the ZigView gizmo (http://www.zigview.co.uk/). The question came up about where it gets its power from. I sent a note which was just responded to ... Begin forwarded message from Tony Holmes: The Zigview has its own built in lithium ion battery and comes with charger/mains unit. It will also run off the mains unit when in a studio situation. Godfrey
Re: waist-level viewfinder
>6 Box camera - contra: no setting of shutter speed nor diafragma and >even no indication at what setting it's operating (I can only guess it's >'calibrated' to sunny sixteen with 100ASA film..??) > >Groeten, Well my Box Brownie has both shutter speed and aperture control. Aperture has a little hole for sunny and a big hole for cloudy. Shutter has instantaneous and time exposure as demonstrated here: http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image-X.htm Film had speeds?? Powell
Re: waist-level viewfinder
Hi, I didn't take digital in my list, because I like film more. I actually do have a Canon Powershot G2, which is indeed ideal for wait-level (or whatever-level-shooting), but it's not my game. Groeten, Vic Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) wrote: Hi Vic I would add a 5bis: 5bis A good Prosumer camera with orientable LCD screen. contra: quality of viewfinder (improving), expensive, no compatibility with *any* lenses, small sensor (improving) pros: very convenient for awkward shooting angles. Macro made easy. All other pros you can find in a prosumer camera. I'm not too much enthusiastic with P&S LCD viewfinders vs reflex finders, but there are times I wish I could frame with the low-res LCD with my *ist DS. Be it orientable, the better! My brother owns a Fuji Finepix S9500, and I wouldn't change my *ist DS for it. But I must admit I'm quite envious when he does really difficult angles (like very close to the ground) single-handed, while I'm forced to lie in the mud to frame a similar picture. Of course it's also very handy for waist-level framing. Patrice Vic Mortelmans a écrit : Hi pdml! this question may be off-topic, though this depends on the outcome of the answers. Currently I have a number of Pentax camera's (Spotmatic SP, ES, SuperA) and a number of rangefander camera's (Canonet QL17 GIII, Zorki 4). None of these camera's offer waist-level viewing. I'd like to try waist-level viewing, because I know from experience that a low angle viewpoint gives better pictures (also, I'm quite tall). These are the possibilities I am considering: 1 Pentax LX with waist-level viewfinder 2 Asahiflex (maybe still with the M39 thread?) 3 flash-shoe waist level viewfinder (Leica has some models), to be used on SLR or rangefinder camera's 4 TLR camera 5 I know there are some regular SLR camera's and even point-and-shoots that have additionally a (small) built-in waist-level viewfinder Do you know about more options? About the pro's and contra's: 1 contra expensive; pro compatible with my current lens system 2 contra quality of the viewfinder?; pro/contra? is it compatible with M42 lenses? 3 contra expensive; pro can be used on any of my camera's 4 contra only with 120 film; pro people will be staring at me (or is this contra?) 5 contra probably low quality viewfinders; I've lost the references... Can you add to this from your experience? Groeten, VIc
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Bob, nice suggestion, actually I do it a lot. It's not quite that elegant (for sure if you want a lower shot than just kneeling down). It's the same movement you make when shooting with a shotgun, isn't it? Groeten, Vic Bob W wrote: Have you thought of kneeling down to take pictures? -- Cheers, Bob ps I'm not being flippant. -Original Message- From: Vic Mortelmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 April 2006 21:41 To: pentax epostlijst Subject: waist-level viewfinder Hi pdml! this question may be off-topic, though this depends on the outcome of the answers. Currently I have a number of Pentax camera's (Spotmatic SP, ES, SuperA) and a number of rangefander camera's (Canonet QL17 GIII, Zorki 4). None of these camera's offer waist-level viewing. I'd like to try waist-level viewing, because I know from experience that a low angle viewpoint gives better pictures (also, I'm quite tall). These are the possibilities I am considering: 1 Pentax LX with waist-level viewfinder 2 Asahiflex (maybe still with the M39 thread?) 3 flash-shoe waist level viewfinder (Leica has some models), to be used on SLR or rangefinder camera's 4 TLR camera 5 I know there are some regular SLR camera's and even point-and-shoots that have additionally a (small) built-in waist-level viewfinder Do you know about more options? About the pro's and contra's: 1 contra expensive; pro compatible with my current lens system 2 contra quality of the viewfinder?; pro/contra? is it compatible with M42 lenses? 3 contra expensive; pro can be used on any of my camera's 4 contra only with 120 film; pro people will be staring at me (or is this contra?) 5 contra probably low quality viewfinders; I've lost the references... Can you add to this from your experience? Groeten, VIc
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I have an add-on myself; didn't realise that I actually *have* a waist-level-camera. But I don't really consider it a valid alternative. Vic Mortelmans wrote: 1 Pentax LX with waist-level viewfinder 2 Asahiflex (maybe still with the M39 thread?) 3 flash-shoe waist level viewfinder (Leica has some models), to be used on SLR or rangefinder camera's 4 TLR camera 5 I know there are some regular SLR camera's and even point-and-shoots that have additionally a (small) built-in waist-level viewfinder 6 Box camera - contra: no setting of shutter speed nor diafragma and even no indication at what setting it's operating (I can only guess it's 'calibrated' to sunny sixteen with 100ASA film..??) Groeten, Vic
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> > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/05/01 Mon PM 11:52:22 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: waist-level viewfinder > > > On May 1, 2006, at 9:33 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > > There's no point in framing at waist level if you then have to bend > > double to focus. It's a paradox with this type of finder that I > > never resolved. The original post gave me the impression that part > > of the desire was to be less obtrusive.Not sure it can work > > like that. > > Ah, grasshopper, you have not been given the Waist Level Teaching... > > There are at least two ways to work focusing with a waist level finder: > > 1) You set focus by scale and DoF. This works fine for many types of > subjects that do not require critical focus. > > 2) You pick the camera up to mid-chest level, tip your head forward > to see the focusing screen with magnifier in place, focus critically. > Then fold back the magnifier and drop the camera back down to the > height where you want to make the exposure for framing. I use both techniques on my LX and Rollei. > > Both of those techniques work beautifully with my Rolleiflexes, > Hasselblads, Nikon F2 and F3 with waist level finders, etc. Very > unobtrusive to the subject because the exposure is made at a > different time from when you set the focus and your eye is not > putting pressure on them through the viewfinder directly. I'm still not sure that that system will make the photographer less obtrusive. Depends on circumstance, I suppose. > > A new option that I find with the Sony R1 is to use the flexible spot > AF right at waist level: The finder is large and clear enough to > place the focus point right on what I want to capture with the > joystick and touch the focus button (or shutter button if the > camera's set on AF). Bingo, the focus is set perfectly every time. I tried this with a friend's compact. It seems to work reasonably well, even for a Moley like myself. Possibly this is the best technique for unobtrusiveness, although it brings in problems of its own. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
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If you shoot posed folks, be sure to raise the camera to chest-ish height so as not shoot up their nostrils. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 1, 2006, at 9:33 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > > There's no point in framing at waist level if you then have to bend > > > double to focus. It's a paradox with this type of finder that I > > never resolved. The original post gave me the impression that part > > > of the desire was to be less obtrusive.Not sure it can work > > like that. > > Ah, grasshopper, you have not been given the Waist Level Teaching... > > There are at least two ways to work focusing with a waist level > finder: > > 1) You set focus by scale and DoF. This works fine for many types of > > subjects that do not require critical focus. > > 2) You pick the camera up to mid-chest level, tip your head forward > to see the focusing screen with magnifier in place, focus critically. > > Then fold back the magnifier and drop the camera back down to the > height where you want to make the exposure for framing. > > Both of those techniques work beautifully with my Rolleiflexes, > Hasselblads, Nikon F2 and F3 with waist level finders, etc. Very > unobtrusive to the subject because the exposure is made at a > different time from when you set the focus and your eye is not > putting pressure on them through the viewfinder directly. > > A new option that I find with the Sony R1 is to use the flexible spot > > AF right at waist level: The finder is large and clear enough to > place the focus point right on what I want to capture with the > joystick and touch the focus button (or shutter button if the > camera's set on AF). Bingo, the focus is set perfectly every time. > > Godfrey > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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On May 1, 2006, at 9:33 AM, mike wilson wrote: There's no point in framing at waist level if you then have to bend double to focus. It's a paradox with this type of finder that I never resolved. The original post gave me the impression that part of the desire was to be less obtrusive.Not sure it can work like that. Ah, grasshopper, you have not been given the Waist Level Teaching... There are at least two ways to work focusing with a waist level finder: 1) You set focus by scale and DoF. This works fine for many types of subjects that do not require critical focus. 2) You pick the camera up to mid-chest level, tip your head forward to see the focusing screen with magnifier in place, focus critically. Then fold back the magnifier and drop the camera back down to the height where you want to make the exposure for framing. Both of those techniques work beautifully with my Rolleiflexes, Hasselblads, Nikon F2 and F3 with waist level finders, etc. Very unobtrusive to the subject because the exposure is made at a different time from when you set the focus and your eye is not putting pressure on them through the viewfinder directly. A new option that I find with the Sony R1 is to use the flexible spot AF right at waist level: The finder is large and clear enough to place the focus point right on what I want to capture with the joystick and touch the focus button (or shutter button if the camera's set on AF). Bingo, the focus is set perfectly every time. Godfrey
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> > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/05/01 Mon PM 03:10:34 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: waist-level viewfinder > > > On May 1, 2006, at 6:24 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > > It would have to be medium format for me, as I can't critically > > focus with the camera at waist level with 35mm. Probably not with > > MF either. > > I don't think you can 'critically focus' any camera held at waist > level without a magnifier, regardless of format. The notion of waist > level finders isn't critical focus, it's the ability to *frame* at > waist level easily. 35mm is a touch small for that, 6x4.5 and up are > much nicer. The Sony R1's 2" LCD is pretty good too: it is bright and > contrasty, is pretty easy to see even in sunlight due to its > transflextive technology. > There's no point in framing at waist level if you then have to bend double to focus. It's a paradox with this type of finder that I never resolved. The original post gave me the impression that part of the desire was to be less obtrusive.Not sure it can work like that. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
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On May 1, 2006, at 6:24 AM, mike wilson wrote: It would have to be medium format for me, as I can't critically focus with the camera at waist level with 35mm. Probably not with MF either. I don't think you can 'critically focus' any camera held at waist level without a magnifier, regardless of format. The notion of waist level finders isn't critical focus, it's the ability to *frame* at waist level easily. 35mm is a touch small for that, 6x4.5 and up are much nicer. The Sony R1's 2" LCD is pretty good too: it is bright and contrasty, is pretty easy to see even in sunlight due to its transflextive technology. Godfrey
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> > From: "Mat Maessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/05/01 Mon PM 01:17:25 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: waist-level viewfinder > > I'm surprised that noone's mentioned a Pentax 6x7 or 67 with the prism > removed. Look in the archives. 8-) It would have to be medium format for me, as I can't critically focus with the camera at waist level with 35mm. Probably not with MF either. > > I borrowed a Kiev 60 for a few months, and shot off a couple of rolls > with the prism off and the viewfinder hood on. Was a lot like shooting > with my Yashica Mat, except for the blanking out of the viewfinder > after the shutter fired. And the loud *SPROING* noise. > > -Mat > > - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
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I'm surprised that noone's mentioned a Pentax 6x7 or 67 with the prism removed. I borrowed a Kiev 60 for a few months, and shot off a couple of rolls with the prism off and the viewfinder hood on. Was a lot like shooting with my Yashica Mat, except for the blanking out of the viewfinder after the shutter fired. And the loud *SPROING* noise. -Mat
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graywolf Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:49:58 -0700 > >Another I did not see the original of... > >1st choice a 5x7 Graflex (Just kidding) I don't know about waist-level with a 5x7 Speed but you can get an old RB Speed that has this monster hood for peering into the back ... Waist-level keeps people from thinking that you're pointing something at them. That's a good thing in today's paranoid world. Here's some thoughts: 1. Most of the Mamiya TLR lenses are fairly low-contrast units. Unless you get the later D & DS editions. Coatings are much better on those. 2. RB67 is an excellent choice if (a) you keep in on a tripod or (b) you are built like a (Kansas/Nebraska/Iowa/Wisconsin/Oklahoma) farm boy. (our wedding was shot by a big farm boy who hand-held his RB67 for 3+ hours. With the prism, grip, flash, etc.) 3. LX if you have the money and want to stay 35mm. Collin KC8TKA
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Interestingly, I own and shoot a Super Ricohflex. nice camera, if not quite a Yashicamat. -Adam graywolf wrote: Another I did not see the original of... 1st choice a 5x7 Graflex (Just kidding) 2nd Mamiya RB67 3rd Hassy 500C 4th Rolleiflex 2.8E2* 5th Mamiya C3* 6th Ricohflex* 7th Anscoflex* The point here is, if someone didn't get it, that you want a ground glass big enough to actually see the image from 18-24 inches away. A digital with a largish flip up LCD would work, I think. * I actually have owned and used these. Listed in descending range of quality. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Adam Maas wrote: Vic Mortelmans wrote: Hi pdml! this question may be off-topic, though this depends on the outcome of the answers. Currently I have a number of Pentax camera's (Spotmatic SP, ES, SuperA) and a number of rangefander camera's (Canonet QL17 GIII, Zorki 4). None of these camera's offer waist-level viewing. I'd like to try waist-level viewing, because I know from experience that a low angle viewpoint gives better pictures (also, I'm quite tall). These are the possibilities I am considering: 1 Pentax LX with waist-level viewfinder 2 Asahiflex (maybe still with the M39 thread?) 3 flash-shoe waist level viewfinder (Leica has some models), to be used on SLR or rangefinder camera's 4 TLR camera 5 I know there are some regular SLR camera's and even point-and-shoots that have additionally a (small) built-in waist-level viewfinder Do you know about more options? About the pro's and contra's: 1 contra expensive; pro compatible with my current lens system 2 contra quality of the viewfinder?; pro/contra? is it compatible with M42 lenses? 3 contra expensive; pro can be used on any of my camera's 4 contra only with 120 film; pro people will be staring at me (or is this contra?) 5 contra probably low quality viewfinders; I've lost the references... Can you add to this from your experience? Groeten, VIc 1's probably the best option. I shoot this way with my F3 with a lot of success. 2 means all new and rare lenses, as Asahiflex's are M37 mount except for one very rare model which had M42. 3 might work, never tried one. 4 is the ebst way to do this on the cheap. Beware parralax error though. 5. Don't even bother. 6. Get a Right angle adaptor for the viewfinder. -Adam
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email is your friend ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: Joseph Tainter > http://www.zigview.co.uk/ > The web site is rather coy about how this thing is powered. One > of the models shows a DC jack. An external power supply is a > non-starter.
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http://www.zigview.co.uk/ -- The web site is rather coy about how this thing is powered. One of the models shows a DC jack. An external power supply is a non-starter. Joe
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Yes, it's easier - much easier ;-)) - to hold the camera over your head and at other odd angles with something like the Zigview. It's pretty cool if it works well. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > > There is also an old-fashioned right-angle finder. But > > new those don't give any cost-savings over this gadget. > > The difficulty with a standard right angle finder is that you have to > bring your eye down to the camera still. A waist level finder allows > a different kind of framing freedom because you can look in it > without bending down.
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On Apr 30, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: You might want to look into the Zigview finder accessory: http://www.zigview.co.uk/ Interesting product. Yes. I've been thinking of ordering one to try it out. There is also an old-fashioned right-angle finder. But new those don't give any cost-savings over this gadget. The difficulty with a standard right angle finder is that you have to bring your eye down to the camera still. A waist level finder allows a different kind of framing freedom because you can look in it without bending down. Godfrey
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Hello, delurking for a moment. I believe that this will work on any SLR: http://www.zigview.co.uk/ Hope this helps, Lou > -Original Message- > From: Vic Mortelmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:41 PM > To: pentax epostlijst > Subject: waist-level viewfinder > > > Hi pdml! > > this question may be off-topic, though this depends on the outcome of > the answers. > > Currently I have a number of Pentax camera's (Spotmatic SP, ES, SuperA) > and a number of rangefander camera's (Canonet QL17 GIII, Zorki 4). > > None of these camera's offer waist-level viewing. > > I'd like to try waist-level viewing, because I know from experience that > a low angle viewpoint gives better pictures (also, I'm quite tall). > > These are the possibilities I am considering: > > 1 Pentax LX with waist-level viewfinder > 2 Asahiflex (maybe still with the M39 thread?) > 3 flash-shoe waist level viewfinder (Leica has some models), to be used > on SLR or rangefinder camera's > 4 TLR camera > 5 I know there are some regular SLR camera's and even point-and-shoots > that have additionally a (small) built-in waist-level viewfinder > > Do you know about more options? > > About the pro's and contra's: > > 1 contra expensive; pro compatible with my current lens system > 2 contra quality of the viewfinder?; pro/contra? is it compatible with > M42 lenses? > 3 contra expensive; pro can be used on any of my camera's > 4 contra only with 120 film; pro people will be staring at me (or is > this contra?) > 5 contra probably low quality viewfinders; I've lost the references... > > Can you add to this from your experience? > > Groeten, > > VIc >
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You might want to look into the Zigview finder accessory: http://www.zigview.co.uk/ -- Interesting product. There is also an old-fashioned right-angle finder. But new those don't give any cost-savings over this gadget. Joe
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Another I did not see the original of... 1st choice a 5x7 Graflex (Just kidding) 2nd Mamiya RB67 3rd Hassy 500C 4th Rolleiflex 2.8E2* 5th Mamiya C3* 6th Ricohflex* 7th Anscoflex* The point here is, if someone didn't get it, that you want a ground glass big enough to actually see the image from 18-24 inches away. A digital with a largish flip up LCD would work, I think. * I actually have owned and used these. Listed in descending range of quality. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Adam Maas wrote: Vic Mortelmans wrote: Hi pdml! this question may be off-topic, though this depends on the outcome of the answers. Currently I have a number of Pentax camera's (Spotmatic SP, ES, SuperA) and a number of rangefander camera's (Canonet QL17 GIII, Zorki 4). None of these camera's offer waist-level viewing. I'd like to try waist-level viewing, because I know from experience that a low angle viewpoint gives better pictures (also, I'm quite tall). These are the possibilities I am considering: 1 Pentax LX with waist-level viewfinder 2 Asahiflex (maybe still with the M39 thread?) 3 flash-shoe waist level viewfinder (Leica has some models), to be used on SLR or rangefinder camera's 4 TLR camera 5 I know there are some regular SLR camera's and even point-and-shoots that have additionally a (small) built-in waist-level viewfinder Do you know about more options? About the pro's and contra's: 1 contra expensive; pro compatible with my current lens system 2 contra quality of the viewfinder?; pro/contra? is it compatible with M42 lenses? 3 contra expensive; pro can be used on any of my camera's 4 contra only with 120 film; pro people will be staring at me (or is this contra?) 5 contra probably low quality viewfinders; I've lost the references... Can you add to this from your experience? Groeten, VIc 1's probably the best option. I shoot this way with my F3 with a lot of success. 2 means all new and rare lenses, as Asahiflex's are M37 mount except for one very rare model which had M42. 3 might work, never tried one. 4 is the ebst way to do this on the cheap. Beware parralax error though. 5. Don't even bother. 6. Get a Right angle adaptor for the viewfinder. -Adam
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Waist level viewing is a favorite of mine ... I learned photography with a Rolleiflex TLR and always miss the finder. The articulated LCD finder of the Sony DSC-R1 was one of the reasons why I bought it ... it handles waist level point of view brilliantly. You might want to look into the Zigview finder accessory: http://www.zigview.co.uk/ Godfrey On Apr 30, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Vic Mortelmans wrote: Hi pdml! this question may be off-topic, though this depends on the outcome of the answers. Currently I have a number of Pentax camera's (Spotmatic SP, ES, SuperA) and a number of rangefander camera's (Canonet QL17 GIII, Zorki 4). None of these camera's offer waist-level viewing. I'd like to try waist-level viewing, because I know from experience that a low angle viewpoint gives better pictures (also, I'm quite tall). These are the possibilities I am considering: 1 Pentax LX with waist-level viewfinder 2 Asahiflex (maybe still with the M39 thread?) 3 flash-shoe waist level viewfinder (Leica has some models), to be used on SLR or rangefinder camera's 4 TLR camera 5 I know there are some regular SLR camera's and even point-and- shoots that have additionally a (small) built-in waist-level viewfinder Do you know about more options? About the pro's and contra's: 1 contra expensive; pro compatible with my current lens system 2 contra quality of the viewfinder?; pro/contra? is it compatible with M42 lenses? 3 contra expensive; pro can be used on any of my camera's 4 contra only with 120 film; pro people will be staring at me (or is this contra?) 5 contra probably low quality viewfinders; I've lost the references... Can you add to this from your experience? Groeten, VIc
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Vic, I always use the Pentax angle-viewer (M type) on my *istD and previous film bodies when I want a low point of view such as for taking flowers. But it means I still have to get on your knees. One more alternative for your list is to buy a twin-eye reflex like the Yashica Mat 124. Henk > -Original Message- > From: Vic Mortelmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 April, 2006 10:41 PM > To: pentax epostlijst > Subject: waist-level viewfinder > > > Hi pdml! > > this question may be off-topic, though this depends on the outcome of > the answers. > > Currently I have a number of Pentax camera's (Spotmatic SP, > ES, SuperA) > and a number of rangefander camera's (Canonet QL17 GIII, Zorki 4). > > None of these camera's offer waist-level viewing. > > I'd like to try waist-level viewing, because I know from > experience that > a low angle viewpoint gives better pictures (also, I'm quite tall). > > These are the possibilities I am considering: > > 1 Pentax LX with waist-level viewfinder > 2 Asahiflex (maybe still with the M39 thread?) > 3 flash-shoe waist level viewfinder (Leica has some models), > to be used > on SLR or rangefinder camera's > 4 TLR camera > 5 I know there are some regular SLR camera's and even > point-and-shoots > that have additionally a (small) built-in waist-level viewfinder > > Do you know about more options? > > About the pro's and contra's: > > 1 contra expensive; pro compatible with my current lens > system 2 contra quality of the viewfinder?; pro/contra? is it > compatible with > M42 lenses? > 3 contra expensive; pro can be used on any of my camera's > 4 contra only with 120 film; pro people will be staring at me (or is > this contra?) > 5 contra probably low quality viewfinders; I've lost the references... > > Can you add to this from your experience? > > Groeten, > > VIc >
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Vic Mortelmans wrote: Can you add to this from your experience? "Waist level" viewing is a bit of a mosnomer; unless you have exceptional eyesight it should really be called "bent over double" viewing. With larger format cameras (you can get a waist finder for the 6x7) it is possible to compose but focusing requires the eye to be near to the finder. The only way around this is prefocusing with a larger DOF. For me, the best option listed would be the LX. If you don't like it, you will get the majority of your money back. Probably. mike
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Hi Vic I would add a 5bis: 5bis A good Prosumer camera with orientable LCD screen. contra: quality of viewfinder (improving), expensive, no compatibility with *any* lenses, small sensor (improving) pros: very convenient for awkward shooting angles. Macro made easy. All other pros you can find in a prosumer camera. I'm not too much enthusiastic with P&S LCD viewfinders vs reflex finders, but there are times I wish I could frame with the low-res LCD with my *ist DS. Be it orientable, the better! My brother owns a Fuji Finepix S9500, and I wouldn't change my *ist DS for it. But I must admit I'm quite envious when he does really difficult angles (like very close to the ground) single-handed, while I'm forced to lie in the mud to frame a similar picture. Of course it's also very handy for waist-level framing. Patrice Vic Mortelmans a écrit : Hi pdml! this question may be off-topic, though this depends on the outcome of the answers. Currently I have a number of Pentax camera's (Spotmatic SP, ES, SuperA) and a number of rangefander camera's (Canonet QL17 GIII, Zorki 4). None of these camera's offer waist-level viewing. I'd like to try waist-level viewing, because I know from experience that a low angle viewpoint gives better pictures (also, I'm quite tall). These are the possibilities I am considering: 1 Pentax LX with waist-level viewfinder 2 Asahiflex (maybe still with the M39 thread?) 3 flash-shoe waist level viewfinder (Leica has some models), to be used on SLR or rangefinder camera's 4 TLR camera 5 I know there are some regular SLR camera's and even point-and-shoots that have additionally a (small) built-in waist-level viewfinder Do you know about more options? About the pro's and contra's: 1 contra expensive; pro compatible with my current lens system 2 contra quality of the viewfinder?; pro/contra? is it compatible with M42 lenses? 3 contra expensive; pro can be used on any of my camera's 4 contra only with 120 film; pro people will be staring at me (or is this contra?) 5 contra probably low quality viewfinders; I've lost the references... Can you add to this from your experience? Groeten, VIc
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Have you thought of kneeling down to take pictures? -- Cheers, Bob ps I'm not being flippant. > -Original Message- > From: Vic Mortelmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 April 2006 21:41 > To: pentax epostlijst > Subject: waist-level viewfinder > > Hi pdml! > > this question may be off-topic, though this depends on the > outcome of the answers. > > Currently I have a number of Pentax camera's (Spotmatic SP, > ES, SuperA) and a number of rangefander camera's (Canonet > QL17 GIII, Zorki 4). > > None of these camera's offer waist-level viewing. > > I'd like to try waist-level viewing, because I know from > experience that a low angle viewpoint gives better pictures > (also, I'm quite tall). > > These are the possibilities I am considering: > > 1 Pentax LX with waist-level viewfinder > 2 Asahiflex (maybe still with the M39 thread?) > 3 flash-shoe waist level viewfinder (Leica has some models), > to be used on SLR or rangefinder camera's > 4 TLR camera > 5 I know there are some regular SLR camera's and even > point-and-shoots that have additionally a (small) built-in > waist-level viewfinder > > Do you know about more options? > > About the pro's and contra's: > > 1 contra expensive; pro compatible with my current lens system > 2 contra quality of the viewfinder?; pro/contra? is it compatible with > M42 lenses? > 3 contra expensive; pro can be used on any of my camera's > 4 contra only with 120 film; pro people will be staring at me > (or is this contra?) > 5 contra probably low quality viewfinders; I've lost the references... > > Can you add to this from your experience? > > Groeten, > > VIc > > > >
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Vic Mortelmans wrote: Hi pdml! this question may be off-topic, though this depends on the outcome of the answers. Currently I have a number of Pentax camera's (Spotmatic SP, ES, SuperA) and a number of rangefander camera's (Canonet QL17 GIII, Zorki 4). None of these camera's offer waist-level viewing. I'd like to try waist-level viewing, because I know from experience that a low angle viewpoint gives better pictures (also, I'm quite tall). These are the possibilities I am considering: 1 Pentax LX with waist-level viewfinder 2 Asahiflex (maybe still with the M39 thread?) 3 flash-shoe waist level viewfinder (Leica has some models), to be used on SLR or rangefinder camera's 4 TLR camera 5 I know there are some regular SLR camera's and even point-and-shoots that have additionally a (small) built-in waist-level viewfinder Do you know about more options? About the pro's and contra's: 1 contra expensive; pro compatible with my current lens system 2 contra quality of the viewfinder?; pro/contra? is it compatible with M42 lenses? 3 contra expensive; pro can be used on any of my camera's 4 contra only with 120 film; pro people will be staring at me (or is this contra?) 5 contra probably low quality viewfinders; I've lost the references... Can you add to this from your experience? Groeten, VIc 1's probably the best option. I shoot this way with my F3 with a lot of success. 2 means all new and rare lenses, as Asahiflex's are M37 mount except for one very rare model which had M42. 3 might work, never tried one. 4 is the ebst way to do this on the cheap. Beware parralax error though. 5. Don't even bother. 6. Get a Right angle adaptor for the viewfinder. -Adam
waist-level viewfinder
Hi pdml! this question may be off-topic, though this depends on the outcome of the answers. Currently I have a number of Pentax camera's (Spotmatic SP, ES, SuperA) and a number of rangefander camera's (Canonet QL17 GIII, Zorki 4). None of these camera's offer waist-level viewing. I'd like to try waist-level viewing, because I know from experience that a low angle viewpoint gives better pictures (also, I'm quite tall). These are the possibilities I am considering: 1 Pentax LX with waist-level viewfinder 2 Asahiflex (maybe still with the M39 thread?) 3 flash-shoe waist level viewfinder (Leica has some models), to be used on SLR or rangefinder camera's 4 TLR camera 5 I know there are some regular SLR camera's and even point-and-shoots that have additionally a (small) built-in waist-level viewfinder Do you know about more options? About the pro's and contra's: 1 contra expensive; pro compatible with my current lens system 2 contra quality of the viewfinder?; pro/contra? is it compatible with M42 lenses? 3 contra expensive; pro can be used on any of my camera's 4 contra only with 120 film; pro people will be staring at me (or is this contra?) 5 contra probably low quality viewfinders; I've lost the references... Can you add to this from your experience? Groeten, VIc
