Re: wide angle zoom comparison...

[Jeffery Smith]

Not a problem in the South. You just have to go through the window INTO a 
house, and the owner shoots you.

Jeffery


On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

>   Lens prices make me glad I live in a town where there are no structures 
> tall enough from which to defenestrate myself.
> 
> -- Walt
> 
> On 11/23/2010 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
>> So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom.  I've been procrastinating on
>> it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast
>> enough, and optically, could be better too.  Sooo, would love to hear your
>> words of wisdom in regards to comparing these:
>> 
>> 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400
>> 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400
>> 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269
>> 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM- about $927
>> 
>> Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually
>> get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone
>> has any experience with it?
>> I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your
>> feedback first...
>> 
>> Tan.x.
>> 
>> 
>> Tanya Love
>> Photographer
>> 
>> www.lovebytes.com.au
>> www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto
>> www.loveandsoul.com.au
>> m: 0458 006 740
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: What's the advantage of DNG?

[Jeffery Smith]

One of the ironic mistakes that Sigma made was having RAW only dSLRs. That 
ensured that the photographer had the maximum potential files, but because the 
camera was ostensibly aimed at amateurs, it backfired badly as being perceived 
as a crucial weakness of the camera. John Bean (UK) used to blow me away with 
his Sigma dSLR images. 

Jeffery

On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Jeffery Smith  
> wrote:
>> I would switch to RAW even with non-existent processing skills. The RAW 
>> conversion process isn't really difficult, and your results will probably be 
>> better. I don't like the camera doing any sharpening, color balance, etc.
> 
> In particular, if you are using Lightroom anyway, the processing for
> raw or JPEG or TIFF or PSD files is presented by the exact same tools
> and UI, so if you can edit one you can edit any of them. The
> difference is that with raw files you have a lot more processing
> potential to work with than any of the others.
> 
> Lightroom's standard calibration and camera profile defaults for raw
> files are generally quite good (although usually different from the
> in-camera JPEG rendering options) so there's little real difference
> between doing the simple effort of bringing in JPEGs and outputting
> them to size and doing the same thing with raw files. As soon as you
> start to adjust things, however, the greater resiliency and
> capabilities of the raw files are immediately apparent.
> 
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Re: What's the advantage of DNG?

[Jeffery Smith]

I agree that the RAW only was absolutely not their Achilles heel. Their optics 
are getting better, but they need to work on build quality, reliability, and 
focus issues. I have a few, but don't recommend them.

Jeffery

On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:22 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

> There's so much wrong with the SD series DSLR's (and their SA series
> film SLR predecessors) that it's hard to nail down anything close to a
> crucial weakness. No JPEG wasn't a big issue given that pretty much
> everything else about the Sigma's sucked worse (Bodies that would have
> been obsolete if 10 years older, AF which barely kept up with a Maxxum
> 7000, overly small, low-resolution sensors with ridiculous marketting,
> an inability to get good files over ISO 400, bad metering, very
> limited lens options, poor handling, high pricing, an inability to
> ship within 2 years of announcement, etc). The one thing the Sigma's
> have going for them is very nice per-pixel sharpness (the much vaunted
> colour accuracy of the Foveon X3's is in fact non-existent, Bayer
> sensors produce significantly more accurate colour due to having less
> channel overlap. The only colour-related advantage of Foveon is that
> colour aliasing is impossible).
> 
> -Adam
> 
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Jeffery Smith  
> wrote:
>> One of the ironic mistakes that Sigma made was having RAW only dSLRs. That 
>> ensured that the photographer had the maximum potential files, but because 
>> the camera was ostensibly aimed at amateurs, it backfired badly as being 
>> perceived as a crucial weakness of the camera. John Bean (UK) used to blow 
>> me away with his Sigma dSLR images.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
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Re: wide angle zoom comparison...

[Jeffery Smith]

The 16-50 is about $750 in the US. You are down under?

Jeffery


On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

> Thanks for all of the feedback guys.  Yep, I know that the AOV is quite
> varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and
> the speed (and of course overall image quality etc).  I'm really thinking
> that at f4 the 12-24 is just that bit too slow. I know that it is a lovely
> lens and I considered it a while back but f4, with moving babies and darkish
> interiors.  Of course, when I get my hands on my new K-5, it won't be such
> an  issue...
> 
> I do know also that the 16-50, isn't too much different from the 18-55 kit
> lens that I currently have, but you know I NEVER use it unless it is for an
> interior or a funky looking fashion shot and it is almost ALMOST used at
> 18mm.  I'd love something a little wider, but not to the point of being fish
> eye, which is why I included the 16-50.  I don't EVER use zooms anymore
> unless I really have to.  I shoot almost exclusively these days with my
> FA50mm 1.7 or my FA100m f2.8 macro and very occasionally with the 18-55mm or
> I also have a 28-70mm/f2.8 Tokina that is getting on now but is a huge,
> heavy lens and gives fine results and used to be my main lens in my wedding
> photography days...
> 
> Anyways, I think I pretty much have it narrowed down to either the:
> 
> 2. PENTAX-DA*  16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 
> Or
> 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927
> 
> I just think that the 12-24mm is just that bit too slow.
> 
> Interested to hear any further thoughts?
> 
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Re: wide angle zoom comparison...

[Jeffery Smith]

Robert White (England) used to sell Voigtlander stuff below the US prices, and 
I bought quite a bit of stuff from him for a few years. I know that shipping 
to/from US/AUS can be prohibitive, are there also VAT issues?  I once thought 
of buying an Epiphone guitar from Australia (a discontinued model), but the 
shipping via air was prohibitive. And you can forget getting a bicycle shipped 
from AUS to US.

Jeffery


On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:54 -0600, "Jeffery Smith"
>  wrote:
>> The 16-50 is about $750 in the US. You are down under?
> 
> 
> Tan is.
> 
> The interesting thing about prices down under is that, although the $A
> has been approaching or at parity with the $US in recent months, lens
> prices have remained high in comparison with those in the US.  It's a
> much smaller market, of course.  The prices Tan quoted are about right
> for one of the more reputable on-line sellers here.  They would probably
> be even higher at the usual High Street shops.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for all of the feedback guys.  Yep, I know that the AOV is quite
>>> varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and
>>> the speed (and of course overall image quality etc).  I'm really thinking
>>> that at f4 the 12-24 is just that bit too slow. I know that it is a lovely
>>> lens and I considered it a while back but f4, with moving babies and darkish
>>> interiors.  Of course, when I get my hands on my new K-5, it won't be such
>>> an  issue...
>>> 
>>> I do know also that the 16-50, isn't too much different from the 18-55 kit
>>> lens that I currently have, but you know I NEVER use it unless it is for an
>>> interior or a funky looking fashion shot and it is almost ALMOST used at
>>> 18mm.  I'd love something a little wider, but not to the point of being fish
>>> eye, which is why I included the 16-50.  I don't EVER use zooms anymore
>>> unless I really have to.  I shoot almost exclusively these days with my
>>> FA50mm 1.7 or my FA100m f2.8 macro and very occasionally with the 18-55mm or
>>> I also have a 28-70mm/f2.8 Tokina that is getting on now but is a huge,
>>> heavy lens and gives fine results and used to be my main lens in my wedding
>>> photography days...
>>> 
>>> Anyways, I think I pretty much have it narrowed down to either the:
>>> 
>>> 2. PENTAX-DA*  16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 
>>> Or
>>> 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM   - about $927
>>> 
>>> I just think that the 12-24mm is just that bit too slow.
>>> 
>>> Interested to hear any further thoughts?
>>> 
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Re: Pentax Camera Spelling Fail

[Jeffery Smith]

One must dispose of those batteries in an appropriate manner. Apparently you 
have to swallow them first.

Jeffery

On Nov 24, 2010, at 8:57 AM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

> That should make it popular with older photographers. 
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> Bwahahaha!
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> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
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> Subject: Pentax Camera Spelling Fail
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>  Don't remember seeing this posted to the list, so forgive me if this is
> old news.  But, I couldn't *not* share it.
> 
> http://spellingfails.com/post/1314299088/pentax-cameras-spelling-fail
> 
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Re: K-5, ISO 12800 & beer bottle to play guitar!

[Jeffery Smith]

It's nearly 5,000 pixels wide.



On Nov 25, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

> I find this picture quite fascinating in more than one way:
> www.dariobonazza.com/public/K5_00898_1.jpg
> 
> K-5, ISO 12800, 1/200s f/4, Sigma 17-70mm @70mm f/4 (full aperture) focused 
> on the guitar.
> 
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K-5 available again at B&H...for a few hours

[Jeffery Smith]

This K-5 must be selling like hotcakes. I signed up for an "in stock alert" 
from B&H. The K-5 apparently go back into stock yesterday but sold out 
yesterday. They're  now backordered again.

Jeffery
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Re: K-5 available again at B&H...for a few hours

[Jeffery Smith]

I had added it to my cart (the K-5). I balked for a few hours. When I went back 
and signed in, it had been removed from my cart with an explanation that they 
were out of stock again. My fault for balking.

Jeffery


On Nov 25, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Jeffery,
> I had the same with the 31mm Limited lens.
> I couldn't get it ordered before it was out of stock.
> I called and asked how to get the lens.
> They had me order one and charge it.
> One was shipped to me about 3 days later.
> Regards,  Bob A.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Jeffery Smith  
> wrote:
>> This K-5 must be selling like hotcakes. I signed up for an "in stock alert" 
>> from B&H. The K-5 apparently go back into stock yesterday but sold out 
>> yesterday. They're  now backordered again.
>> 
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Re: K-5 available again at B&H...for a few hours

[Jeffery Smith]

I have to wait a few weeks anyway. I missed my window of opportunity for having 
a place to mail it. Faculty are no longer allowed to receive mail at the 
college, so I have to wait until the beginning of Xmas break to have it mailed 
to my home.

Jeffery


On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Talk to a person...
> 
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Jeffery Smith  
> wrote:
>> I had added it to my cart (the K-5). I balked for a few hours. When I went 
>> back and signed in, it had been removed from my cart with an explanation 
>> that they were out of stock again. My fault for balking.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>> 
>>> Jeffery,
>>> I had the same with the 31mm Limited lens.
>>> I couldn't get it ordered before it was out of stock.
>>> I called and asked how to get the lens.
>>> They had me order one and charge it.
>>> One was shipped to me about 3 days later.
>>> Regards,  Bob A.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Jeffery Smith  
>>> wrote:
>>>> This K-5 must be selling like hotcakes. I signed up for an "in stock 
>>>> alert" from B&H. The K-5 apparently go back into stock yesterday but sold 
>>>> out yesterday. They're  now backordered again.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeffery
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Re: K-5 available again at B&H...for a few hours

[Jeffery Smith]

That is absolutely the effect it has. And now there are such draconian rules on 
computer usage at the college, one might as well go home and use his/her 
computer at home instead. For some reason, people don't understand that if you 
make everything illegal, nobody will do anything. 


On Nov 26, 2010, at 2:06 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's a pain. W&L figured that doing that would make faculty go home early 
> to wait for packages. 
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> I have to wait a few weeks anyway. I missed my window of opportunity for 
> having a place to mail it. Faculty are no longer allowed to receive mail at 
> the college, so I have to wait until the beginning of Xmas break to have it 
> mailed to my home.
> 
> Jeffery
> 
> 
> On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> 
>> Talk to a person...
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Jeffery Smith  
>> wrote:
>>> I had added it to my cart (the K-5). I balked for a few hours. When I went 
>>> back and signed in, it had been removed from my cart with an explanation 
>>> that they were out of stock again. My fault for balking.
>>> 
>>> Jeffery
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Jeffery,
>>>> I had the same with the 31mm Limited lens.
>>>> I couldn't get it ordered before it was out of stock.
>>>> I called and asked how to get the lens.
>>>> They had me order one and charge it.
>>>> One was shipped to me about 3 days later.
>>>> Regards,  Bob A.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Jeffery Smith  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> This K-5 must be selling like hotcakes. I signed up for an "in stock 
>>>>> alert" from B&H. The K-5 apparently go back into stock yesterday but sold 
>>>>> out yesterday. They're  now backordered again.
>>>>> 
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Re: Boy

[Jeffery Smith]

Has a certain Lensbaby or Holga feel to it.

Jeffery


On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:52 AM, SV Hovland wrote:

> http://album.heime.org/Default.aspx?albummode=Page&albumpath=%2falbum%2ftemporary%2fIMGP0587.JPG
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> Taken with K-5 and DA70/2,4 in Sandnes, Norway today.
> 
> Created in the camera with several filters.
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Re: with blurb, matte or lustre paper?

[Jeffery Smith]

I think it is like pearl (sort of a shiny matte, like Agfa paper from 30 years 
ago).

Jeffery

On Nov 30, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> I've got no idea what they mean by "lustre".
> 
> Anybody know what the differences are?  Which is better?
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Re: OT - We are not alone?

[Jeffery Smith]

Strange finding. They discovered a bacterium that uses arsenic in place of 
phosphorus in its DNA. That is somewhat earth-shaking in the biology field, as 
no other organism on earth has been able to substitute other elements in DNA.

Jeffery


On Nov 30, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> 
> http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/nov/HQ_M10-167_Astrobiology.html
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> 
> Cheers
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> ++
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Re: Enablement - Pentax ES

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Ah, I remember lusting after that camera in about 1970. One of my earlier 
concerns with the Spotmatic I was using was that shutter speeds were in 
1-f-stop detentes, and I was using Kodachrome (with not much latitude). The 
mere idea of a stepless shutter that could give you 1/243 of a second seemed so 
precise to me back then.

I even recall the 1970 hype on it. The ES was for electronic shutter, but one 
author said that it should stand for "exposure simplicity".

Jeffery



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> A friend of mine wanted my Minolta Autocord.
> I won't be using it much, since I recently got my Pentax 67.
> So he made me an offer - his Asahi Pentax ES w. 1.4 50mm Takumar. 
> It uses almost the same kind of batteries like the P67 - and my Minolta flash 
> meter. Quite convenient. I guess Silver or Lithium is not a big deal. 
> 
> What a nice camera. Actually very similar to the K2 (Shuatter Automatics), 
> except for the screw mount lenses and no mirror lock up. The secreen is very 
> bright and easy to fucus with. 
> 
> Now I willt look in my Spotmatic bag to see if I have other lenses I may use 
> with the ES. 
> 
> When I started shooting with an SLR - the ES was the hottest camera in the 
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Re: Enablement - Pentax ES

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DOH!!


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> ES stood for electrospotmatic
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> "Electronic Shutter" - thanks Jeffery, I didn't know/did not figure that
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> On Jan 23, 2011 17:14 "Jeffery Smith"  wrote:
>> Ah, I remember lusting after that camera in about 1970. One of my 
>> earlier concerns with the Spotmatic I was using was that shutter 
>> speeds were in 1-f-stop detentes, and I was using Kodachrome (with not 
>> much latitude). The mere idea of a stepless shutter that could give 
>> you 1/243 of a second seemed so precise to me back then. I even recall 
>> the 1970 hype on it. The ES was for electronic shutter, but one author 
>> said that it should stand for "exposure simplicity".
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 23, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Jens wrote:
>> 
>>> A friend of mine wanted my Minolta Autocord.
>>> I won't be using it much, since I recently got my Pentax 67. So he 
>>> made me an offer - his Asahi Pentax ES w. 1.4 50mm Takumar. It uses 
>>> almost the same kind of batteries like the P67 - and my Minolta 
>>> flash meter. Quite convenient. I guess Silver or Lithium is not a 
>>> big deal.
>>> 
>>> What a nice camera. Actually very similar to the K2 (Shuatter 
>>> Automatics), except for the screw mount lenses and no mirror lock 
>>> up. The secreen is very bright and easy to fucus with.
>>> 
>>> Now I willt look in my Spotmatic bag to see if I have other lenses I 
>>> may use with the ES.
>>> 
>>> When I started shooting with an SLR - the ES was the hottest camera 
>>> in the store. At that time I couldn't afford it.
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Re: peso - some bokeh - fa 77 wide open

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It's kind if strange, but I don't mind it. It might be a little distracting 
because it's unique-looking. But I don't find it "busy" looking like some 
bokeh. Looks a bit artsy.

Jeffery

On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:41 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5382974835/
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Re: peso - some bokeh - fa 77 wide open

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And aside from the bokeh, the image shows good sharpness and contrast for being 
wide open. For shooting productions on stage, the 77 FA is pretty much the only 
lens I use if there are only two people on the stage. When the square dancing 
starts, I have to go to 32 or 43.

Jeffery

On Jan 23, 2011, at 11:19 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

> It's kind if strange, but I don't mind it. It might be a little distracting 
> because it's unique-looking. But I don't find it "busy" looking like some 
> bokeh. Looks a bit artsy.
> 
> Jeffery
> 
> On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:41 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote:
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Totally OT - WiFi question

[Jeffery Smith]

I just got switched from AT&T to Cox Internet service. They gave me a non-WiFi 
modem, so I tried to connect it up with one of my three previous Wi-Fi routers 
(Belkin, Apple, Cisco), and could get all three of the WiFi routers to work but 
not one of them will attach me to the Internet (through wireless or through an 
ethernet wire from the back). If I go directly from the back of the Cox modem 
to my Mac, the internet comes up. For some reason, my WiFi routers cannot seem 
to get the Internet signal from the modem. I tried 4 different ethernet wires 
(between modem and router) just to make sure that wasn't the problem. And I did 
make sure that the modem was connected to the right ethernet connection 
(ingoing, not outgoing).

Is there something obvious that I'm missing here? All three routers do make a 
connection with my computers, but no Internet signal is detected.

Jeffery

(BTW, I'm getting ready to teach a lab, so I won't be able to check back until 
I get home tonight...hopefully one of you has had the same issue and knew how 
to correct it).
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Re: Totally OT - WiFi question

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Woo Hoo. That sounds like it could be a fix! I'll give it a shot tonight. 
Thanks Stan.
On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

> I just moved my Apple Airport Extreme from a Time Warner net in one state to 
> a Charter net in another. Which amounts to the same thing.
> 
> 1. As Paul and Jeffrey have suggested, first you need to reset your router 
> and then put in the new parameters.
>   a. Leave the Airport disconnected from the cable. But turn it on.
>   b. Use your Mac, turn on the Airport utility. It should "see" the 
> Airport.
>   c. Set up the Airport with wireless network name, password, DNS, etc.
> 2. Turn off (disconnect) the cable modem. Turn off (disconnect) the router.
> 3. Link the modem to the router.
> 4. Turn both modem and router back on.
> 5. Go surfing.
> 
> You can do all of the above also by direct-connecting any of the routers to 
> your Mac, then using Airport utility (for Airport) or by linking to the 
> router via browser (try 192.168.1.1) and making the appropriate changes. In 
> any case, a key step will be powering off the cable modem after you have done 
> the router re-set.
> 
> stan
> 
> On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:33 PM, steve harley wrote:
> 
>> On 2011-01-26 12:33 , Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>> I just got switched from AT&T to Cox Internet service. They gave me a 
>>> non-WiFi modem, so I tried to connect it up with one of my three previous 
>>> Wi-Fi routers (Belkin, Apple, Cisco), and could get all three of the WiFi 
>>> routers to work but not one of them will attach me to the Internet (through 
>>> wireless or through an ethernet wire from the back). If I go directly from 
>>> the back of the Cox modem to my Mac, the internet comes up. For some 
>>> reason, my WiFi routers cannot seem to get the Internet signal from the 
>>> modem. I tried 4 different ethernet wires (between modem and router) just 
>>> to make sure that wasn't the problem. And I did make sure that the modem 
>>> was connected to the right ethernet connection (ingoing, not outgoing).
>>> 
>>> Is there something obvious that I'm missing here? All three routers do make 
>>> a connection with my computers, but no Internet signal is detected.
>> 
>> it could be any of a few things; have you double-checked the basics? for one 
>> thing, the ethernet cable should go from the modem to the WAN port on your 
>> router
>> 
>> if the modem is keyed to only admit one MAC (not "Mac") address, you'll need 
>> to spoof that address on your router; also check how the modem is configured 
>> -- if the modem is doing DHCP you may need to set your router to bridge 
>> mode; you may also want to check the DNS settings on the router and reset 
>> them to Cox's DNS servers if they are set to the old AT&T numbers (not 
>> needed if you are using something like OpenDNS or Google DNS)
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Re: Totally OT - WiFi question

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Got it working! Thanks Stan!

Jeffery


On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

> Sorry, I meant "as Paul and Steve have suggested . . ."  - I got the 
> questioner and responder mixed up.
> 
> On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
> 
>> I just moved my Apple Airport Extreme from a Time Warner net in one state to 
>> a Charter net in another. Which amounts to the same thing.
>> 
>> 1. As Paul and Jeffrey have suggested, first you need to reset your router 
>> and then put in the new parameters.
>>  a. Leave the Airport disconnected from the cable. But turn it on.
>>  b. Use your Mac, turn on the Airport utility. It should "see" the 
>> Airport.
>>  c. Set up the Airport with wireless network name, password, DNS, etc.
>> 2. Turn off (disconnect) the cable modem. Turn off (disconnect) the router.
>> 3. Link the modem to the router.
>> 4. Turn both modem and router back on.
>> 5. Go surfing.
>> 
>> You can do all of the above also by direct-connecting any of the routers to 
>> your Mac, then using Airport utility (for Airport) or by linking to the 
>> router via browser (try 192.168.1.1) and making the appropriate changes. In 
>> any case, a key step will be powering off the cable modem after you have 
>> done the router re-set.
>> 
>> stan
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:33 PM, steve harley wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2011-01-26 12:33 , Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>>> I just got switched from AT&T to Cox Internet service. They gave me a 
>>>> non-WiFi modem, so I tried to connect it up with one of my three previous 
>>>> Wi-Fi routers (Belkin, Apple, Cisco), and could get all three of the WiFi 
>>>> routers to work but not one of them will attach me to the Internet 
>>>> (through wireless or through an ethernet wire from the back). If I go 
>>>> directly from the back of the Cox modem to my Mac, the internet comes up. 
>>>> For some reason, my WiFi routers cannot seem to get the Internet signal 
>>>> from the modem. I tried 4 different ethernet wires (between modem and 
>>>> router) just to make sure that wasn't the problem. And I did make sure 
>>>> that the modem was connected to the right ethernet connection (ingoing, 
>>>> not outgoing).
>>>> 
>>>> Is there something obvious that I'm missing here? All three routers do 
>>>> make a connection with my computers, but no Internet signal is detected.
>>> 
>>> it could be any of a few things; have you double-checked the basics? for 
>>> one thing, the ethernet cable should go from the modem to the WAN port on 
>>> your router
>>> 
>>> if the modem is keyed to only admit one MAC (not "Mac") address, you'll 
>>> need to spoof that address on your router; also check how the modem is 
>>> configured -- if the modem is doing DHCP you may need to set your router to 
>>> bridge mode; you may also want to check the DNS settings on the router and 
>>> reset them to Cox's DNS servers if they are set to the old AT&T numbers 
>>> (not needed if you are using something like OpenDNS or Google DNS)
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Re: Totally OT - WiFi question

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It was an odd thing that seemed to fix it. I reset both router and modem about 
10 times, in different orders, to no avail. The router was working, but would 
not receive info from the modem. I finally just gave up and sat in the living 
room with a laptop on my lap and starting watching TV. Five minutes later, my 
blank internet screen had a popup that said "Do you want to connect to 
*&%$@&^%&*" (some sort of jibberish). I wasn't about to choose "no", so I 
clicked on OK. And CNN.com popped up on my laptop. Once my laptop started 
working, I went to the desktop and it started working as well. Spooky, but 
there was a delay during which nothing worked, and then it just seemed to wake 
up.

Jeffery


On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:39 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Jeffery Smith
>> I just got switched from AT&T to Cox Internet service. They gave me a
>> non-WiFi modem, so I tried to connect it up with one of my three
>> previous Wi-Fi routers (Belkin, Apple, Cisco), and could get all
>> three of the WiFi routers to work but not one of them will attach me
>> to the Internet (through wireless or through an ethernet wire from
>> the back). If I go directly from the back of the Cox modem to my Mac,
>> the internet comes up. For some reason, my WiFi routers cannot seem
>> to get the Internet signal from the modem. I tried 4 different
>> ethernet wires (between modem and router) just to make sure that
>> wasn't the problem. And I did make sure that the modem was connected
>> to the right ethernet connection (ingoing, not outgoing).
>> 
>> Is there something obvious that I'm missing here? All three routers
>> do make a connection with my computers, but no Internet signal is
>> detected.
>> 
> 
> Sounds like the routers may still have old IP addresses from whatever ISPs 
> they were last connected to. It may be as simple as telling the router to 
> release its IP and get a new one from Cox.
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Re: Totally OT - WiFi question

[Jeffery Smith]

Whatever the case, if someone has the same issue, we need to tell them to give 
up, sit, and just stare at the screen for a while...and a miracle will occur!!!

Jeffery


On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:39 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Jeffery Smith
>> It was an odd thing that seemed to fix it. I reset both router and
>> modem about 10 times, in different orders, to no avail. The router
>> was working, but would not receive info from the modem. I finally
>> just gave up and sat in the living room with a laptop on my lap and
>> starting watching TV. Five minutes later, my blank internet screen
>> had a popup that said "Do you want to connect to *&%$@&^%&*" (some
>> sort of jibberish). I wasn't about to choose "no", so I clicked on
>> OK. And CNN.com popped up on my laptop. Once my laptop started
>> working, I went to the desktop and it started working as well.
>> Spooky, but there was a delay during which nothing worked, and then
>> it just seemed to wake up.
>> 
>> Jeffery
> 
> Could be some kind of timer built into the firmware that causes the router to 
> release the old IP address and get a new one on its own if it can't connect. 
> Resetting the router might not purge the old IP address.
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Re: Totally OT - WiFi question

[Jeffery Smith]

No, the damned neighbors all have their WiFi routers secured. I ended up using 
the Cisco router that had its base station name given to me by Cisco 
(GoldPanda). 

Jeffery

On Jan 27, 2011, at 12:23 PM, steve harley wrote:

> On 2011-01-27 06:26 , Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> Five minutes later, my blank internet screen had a popup that said "Do you 
>> want to connect to *&%$@&^%&*" (some sort of jibberish).
> 
> um, are you sure you didn't just connect to a neighbor's open wifi network?
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Re: Totally OT and don't mean nothing.

[Jeffery Smith]

I give myself a haircut once a week (3/8"), on Saturdays. I haven't had a real 
haircut since Katrina. I needed one badly in Houston, went to a "barber school" 
and, for $8 got a haircut that was worse than Ross Perot's (did he live in 
Houston?). I went straight to WalMart, bought some clippers, and have since 
sported a Gunnery Sergeant Hartman haircut.

Jeffery


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> I've decided I'm going to shave once a week from now on, whether I need to or 
> not.
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Re: Totally OT and don't mean nothing.

[Jeffery Smith]

It's overrated.

On Jan 29, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:

I'm not old enough to shave, yet.


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Re: I had forgotten -- completely

[Jeffery Smith]

The difference may be between film and digital sensor. But I may pull out my 
old 21/2.8 Kobalux and try it on the M8.

Jeffery

On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

> The Tominon 21mm I had back when I first got my DS.
> On that camera I was dissatisfied with the lens.
> But now I like it on the K-x.
> That seems to be the same experience I had with the M40/2.8.
> On the K-x I gotten my only quality images.
> None on film or with the DS, though I never shot one on the K100D.
> 
> Anyone else have a similar experience with lens/sensor combinations?
> 
> Sincerely, 
> 
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> http://kerygmainstitute.org 
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Re: Protesting global warming

[Jeffery Smith]

CO2 is a trace element? And most of it comes from volcanos? Glenn Beck or Sarah 
Palin must have written a science text.

Jeffery

> 
> 
> Den 6. feb. 2011 kl. 16.54 skrev P. J. Alling:
> 
>> The climate changes, it has been for the entire time life has been on earth. 
>>  We, and all other life, adapt, or die.
>> 
>> Your implication is that somehow our actions make a particularly large 
>> difference is ludicrous, and always has been.  We can create localized micro 
>> climate changes.  Very little more.
>> 
>> CO2 the common  boogieman is a trace element.  A good volcanic eruption will 
>> add more to the atmosphere in one year than has the entire industrial 
>> revolution, yet it the long run it barely registers.
>> 
>> The best predictor of future climate is the sunspot cycle yet most "climate 
>> scientests" completely ignore it*,  because we don't have a good idea of 
>> exactly why it works.  But you know we don't have a particularly good model 
>> of how anything in climate works.  None of the common models predict the 
>> future, none even reliably predict the past, unless you "massage" the data 
>> so much it would make an Economist blush.
>> 
>> 
>> *That wasn't always the case, I remember learning about it in physical 
>> science classes in Jr. High School.
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Re: Protesting global warming

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It isn't an element. And its relatively small amount doesn't mean that it is 
insignificant to the global climate. I'm guessing that you aren't a scientist.

Jeffery


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> I didn't say that most of it comes form volcanos.  I said the the Human 
> contribution is dwarfed by a good volcanic eruption, and yes CO2 is a trace 
> element in the atmosphere at just 0.039%.  IIRC the definition of Trace 
> element is any thing less than 0.1% of a substance.
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/6/2011 4:32 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> CO2 is a trace element? And most of it comes from volcanos? Glenn Beck or 
>> Sarah Palin must have written a science text.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>>> 
>>> Den 6. feb. 2011 kl. 16.54 skrev P. J. Alling:
>>> 
>>>> The climate changes, it has been for the entire time life has been on 
>>>> earth.  We, and all other life, adapt, or die.
>>>> 
>>>> Your implication is that somehow our actions make a particularly large 
>>>> difference is ludicrous, and always has been.  We can create localized 
>>>> micro climate changes.  Very little more.
>>>> 
>>>> CO2 the common  boogieman is a trace element.  A good volcanic eruption 
>>>> will add more to the atmosphere in one year than has the entire industrial 
>>>> revolution, yet it the long run it barely registers.
>>>> 
>>>> The best predictor of future climate is the sunspot cycle yet most 
>>>> "climate scientests" completely ignore it*,  because we don't have a good 
>>>> idea of exactly why it works.  But you know we don't have a particularly 
>>>> good model of how anything in climate works.  None of the common models 
>>>> predict the future, none even reliably predict the past, unless you 
>>>> "massage" the data so much it would make an Economist blush.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *That wasn't always the case, I remember learning about it in physical 
>>>> science classes in Jr. High School.
>>>> 
>> 
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Re: Protesting global warming

[Jeffery Smith]

LOL!


On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:53 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> But we have stopped having children.  You should really look at the 
> demographics.  It's the major cause of an ageing population.
> 
> Population growth is probably the biggest cause of human induced climate 
> change.
> 
> Thanks for the link, love the subtitle, always nice to know where the biases 
> are at the start.
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/6/2011 5:02 PM, Bob W wrote:
>>> I would be much happier if the Indians and Chinese became rich enough
>>> to
>>> buy those cars, they'd stop having so many children and relieve a lot
>>> of
>>> the stress on all the worlds systems.  Rich peoples have fewer children
>>> all other things being equal.  Actually China is a strange case.  Their
>>> one child policy has caused a couple of counter intuitive but very real
>>> problems, the Chinese have a surplus of young men, boys children being
>>> preferred over girls in Chinese society, and demographically a
>>> population that's ageing faster than almost any other in Asia.  It will
>>> be interesting to see what happens there if I live long enough.
>> that simplistic argument assumes that each individual in countries such as
>> China, India and African countries contributes to climate change in equal
>> measure with individuals in the West, and this is not so. The impact on the
>> environment would be greater if people in the West stopped having children.
>> We pollute far more per capita than do many multiples of people in the other
>> parts of the world. In fact, the main responsibility for pollution lies with
>> rich people, it is not a population issue, but a wealth issue.
>> 
>> http://climateandcapitalism.com/?p=2560
>> 
>> Population growth is a problem for all sorts of reasons, but climate change
>> isn't one of them.
>> 
>> B
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Protesting global warming

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I think that some people think that the concept of the greenhouse effect and 
global warming were somehow invented by Al Gore. This concept is not new. And 
if you look at the greenhouse effect skeptics, they are also united in their 
party affiliation. That would be fine if it were a political issue rather than 
a scientific issue.

By the way, the same skeptics believe that evolution is a farce as well. 

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Re: Protesting global warming

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I'm gonna blame a medium-sized volcano. Sure beats having to buy a hybrid.

Jeffery

On Feb 7, 2011, at 3:42 PM, eckinator wrote:
> 
> I'm not saying you're not trying to do your share to keep it from
> happening but this attitude is dangerous - what about those who are
> young now? and their kids?
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Re: PESO - Harpsichord Maker

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A harpsichord maker that looks like a harpsichord maker. The lighting is nice, 
but I would have the urge to try B&W.

It is an excellent shot in color. Nothing to complain about as is. Excellent.

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Re: PESO - Harpsichord Maker

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I agree that the warmth of the woods is satisfying. I used to go to boat shows 
just to marvel in the teak of the interiors.

Jeffery

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On Jun 30, 2012, at 20:53, Rick Womer  wrote:

> Thanks, Jeffery!  I wasn't even tempted to try B&W because I like the colors 
> of the woods so much, but I'll give it a go.
> 
> Rick
>  
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
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> A harpsichord maker that looks like a harpsichord maker. The lighting is 
> nice, but I would have the urge to try B&W.
> 
> It is an excellent shot in color. Nothing to complain about as is. Excellent.
> 
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Re: J.D. Powers Report: Pentax Crowned Best In DSLR Online Buyer Satisfaction

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Me with just 1 dSLR on a desert island, gotta be a K5 with 43 or 31 lens.

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On Jun 30, 2012, at 21:42, Darren Addy  wrote:

> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PetaPixel/~3/Hl6rW1YzwKc/
> 
> full story: 
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Re: Just a simple question

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Someone with Pentax lenses? :-)

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On Jul 3, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

> If a 24Mp D3200 is $699 and a 16Mp K30 is $899
> then
> who is going to buy the K30?
> 
> Sincerely, 
> 
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Re: PESO - Nice Tie

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His face also has a prickly porcine look to it. A refreshing change from the 
locals here, all of whom have shirts and ties with Tabasco bottles on them.

Reminds me of an old gentleman down here who would show up to barbecues and 
festivals with a trailer that cooked and smoked "Boston Butt". Of course, all 
of the ladies kept kidding the old guy about how much they loved his butt. 

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On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> He's obviously a man of good taste. Thanks to all who commented or had a look.
> Paul
> On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> 
>> I like a man who can coordinate his ensemble.
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Paul Stenquist  
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2012, at 9:14 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Was he selling pork products?
>>> 
>>> Yep, in addition to other dead animal treats. His truck looked like an 
>>> Airstream with a motor cab up front. A nifty rig
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Fun pic.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> frank
>>>> 
>>>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
>>>> Christopher Hitchens
>>>> 
>>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>> 
>>>> From: Paul Stenquist 
>>>> Sent: July 2, 2012 7/2/12
>>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>>> Subject: PESO - Nice Tie
>>>> 
>>>> Porcine neckwear..
>>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16019522
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Re: The Online Photographer asks; "Is color printing easier now?"

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Cibachrome actually goes back to the 70's. I printed thousands of them in my 
1-room studio apartment, using a walk-in closet as a darkroom. 

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On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> To which I could only answer Duh?  I've done wet print processing with 
> Cibachrome, one of the easiest methods available in the 80's. There's no 
> comparison a decent, and there are very few that aren't decent, inkjet 
> printer makes color printing much easier.  Now are the images produced 
> better, artistically, or more compelling somehow, that might be a question to 
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Re: The Online Photographer asks; "Is color printing easier now?"

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I did all of the printing for two editions of an Atlas of Parasitology while 
still a graduate student at Tulane. It took some convincing for me to get the 
two authors (old guys) to use Ektachrome instead of Kodachrome. At the time, 
New Orleans had the best color lab in the USA (Primary Color), and getting 
slides developed in an hour with no greenish hue did it. 

My biggest challenge was getting the plastic print drums absolutely clean 
between procedures. As I recall, it involved ammonia, detergent, my bathtub, 
and a rinse in Orbit bath to get the drums totally clean. 

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On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> 
> 
> On 7/7/2012 20:43, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> Cibachrome actually goes back to the 70's. I printed thousands of them in my 
>> 1-room studio apartment, using a walk-in closet as a darkroom.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Jeffery
> 
> Me too... but not to your numbers  but walk in closet and Ciba, yes.
> 
> In fact, I learned cibachrome printing before I learned how to develop black 
> and white negs.  I had been afraid I would mess up doing the negs.
> 
> Cibachrome chems were nasty and getting the exposure right was a lot of work. 
>  I've got maybe 100 or so 8 x 10's in a file drawer and a couple
> on the wall.  But their longevity so far at least is equal to the hype
> 
> ann
> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>>> Cibachrome, one of the easiest methods available in the 80's. There's no 
>>> comparison a decent, and there are very few that aren't decent, inkjet 
>>> printer makes color printing much easier.  Now are the images produced 
>>> better, artistically, or more compelling somehow, that might be a question 
>>> to ask.
>>> 
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Re: Once again Pentax gyps the world on color choices.

[Jeffery Smith]

I'd buy that mustard yellow one. I could take pictures of federal buildings and 
the New Orleans port. No terrorist in his right mind would be taking pictures 
for planning an attack with such an in-your-face camera. 

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On Jul 14, 2012, at 1:14 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> I guess you'll have to import them yourself if you want one of these colors
> 
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PAW - week 28 - Drought in New Orleans

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http://www.400tx.com/New%20Orleans/nola6.html

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Re: PAW - week 28 - Drought in New Orleans

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Thanks Christine. I'm trying to get back into the swing of things with a PAW. 

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On Jul 14, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Wonderful!  Love the rendering and texture of the ivy.  Cheers, Christine 
> 
> 
> On Jul 14, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
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>> http://www.400tx.com/New%20Orleans/nola6.html
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Re: PAW - week 28 - Drought in New Orleans

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I'm sure that some of it is (that house is at the end of my block and was 
abandoned after Katrina).   Kudzu overwhelms my house within days, and spraying 
Roundup weekly becomes routine. There are several types of vines that overwhelm 
everything in New Orleans, and I recognize kudzu by the pea pods. When I bought 
my 1850's era house in 1992, it was abandoned, and kudzu had overtaken and 
destroyed the entire back wall of both stories, both through harboring moisture 
and by giving a foothold to Formosan termites. 

Thanks for the kind words. 

Jeffery

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On Jul 14, 2012, at 19:25, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> Nice shot - is that kudzu ?
> I backed up into the whole little gallery and enjoyed the others too
> 
> ann
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>> http://www.400tx.com/New%20Orleans/nola6.html
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
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Re: a weekend with the K30

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I'm sort of relieved that there isn't enough rationale to get one while already 
having a K5. I doubted that Pentax would ever come out with a dSLR with a 
sensor that is the size of a 35mm frame (I worded that just for Paul), but if 
the Q is going down, I still have a glimmer of hope.

Jeffery

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On Jul 15, 2012, at 20:50, Bong Manayon  wrote:

> Got a chance to run around with the K30 this weekend, there is a
> difference between reading specs and actually handling the camera.
> One of my assumptions was it would be like downgrading from say the
> K10D to the K200D or the K-m but I was pleasantly surprised that it
> had the dual dials of the K-5; and except for the button layout at the
> back (similar to the K-r) almost everything else was the K-5. There is
> an improvement in focusing--less hunting and more precise.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/sets/72157630572719126/
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Re: K-5 pricing

[Jeffery Smith]

My advice is that anyone on this list who doesn't have a K-5 should get one at 
this price. It is the flagship of the Pentax dSLR line and competes very well 
with comparable dSLRs costing much more.

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On Jul 20, 2012, at 13:46, Larry Colen  wrote:

> 
> On Jul 20, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>> I went ahead with the purchase. Two big motivators were that I am going to 
>> Costa Rica for ten days (leaving in a few days), and the positive comments 
>> here. I am sure I will not regret owning the K-5 and am having trouble 
>> imagining what could be improved (except the eternal AF-speed issue.) And I 
>> am sure I would regret not having the K-5 the first time I tried to get 
>> decent low-light shots in the rain forest. And I'll only have 1-2 days for 
>> touristy stuff so will not want to miss the few photo-ops I hope to have.
> 
> If you had mentioned the trip beforehand, I would have definitely said to get 
> the K-5 now. Even if you were to sell the K-5 used in six months to upgrade 
> to whatever else comes along, it would be worth it to have the extra low 
> light performance on your trip.
> 
> While you are at it, invest in some 32GB 45MB/S SD cards.  The files on the 
> K-5 can be a lot larger than on the K20.
> 
> 
>> 
>> I am expecting two new cameras from Pentax, along the lines you've laid out 
>> Larry. One will be a minor feature upgrade to the K-5; that K-5s will remain 
>> as the top of the APS line with two control wheels, LCD display on top, 
>> water resistance, etc. The second will be the LX-D or MZ-D1 with K-5 
>> controls and features but a 24x36 sensor. Resolution will obviously be 
>> higher, but noise will be an issue over ISO 800.
> 
> Looking at what is coming out of 5Dmk3 and D800 bodies, I don't think noise 
> will be any worse than on the K-5.  
> 
>> The firmware will adapt/reduce the active sensor area to avoid vignetting on 
>> D-series lenses which do not cover the full frame. Most of us will lust 
>> after it but not many of us will "need" the extra resolution.
>> 
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Re: the long, long wait for my k-5

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Even Leica is telling me "2 weeks" for my camera. I wonder if Pentax is farming 
out to a third party.

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On Jul 21, 2012, at 19:36, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

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> On Jul 21, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Mark C wrote:
> 
>> On 7/20/2012 3:22 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> It's been at C.R.i.S. for over a month now, for the reflex mirror motor 
>>> repair, a problem that seems rather common on this camera. Part is still 
>>> back ordered. Not happy.
>>> 
>>> Paul
>> Bummer.  If Pentax wants to stay competitive, service is crucial. No repair 
>> on a current model should be overly long.
>> 
>> What are you shooting with while your K5 is laid up?
> 
> I'm using my K7, which normally serves as the backup. It's fine, but I have a 
> dawn-to-disk  three day magazine shoot coming up down in Columbus, Ohio. I 
> really don't want to go with one camera. I should have registered for the 
> Pentax pro service, but the application was a pain in the ass, requiring 
> letters from editors and more. I could have done it, but didn't take the 
> time. However, like you say, no repair should take six weeks, especially one 
> for a current camera with a somewhat common malfunction.
> 
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Re: Peso: To Tired to Run Away

[Jeffery Smith]

Had to be returned for repair?

Jeffery

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> http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-3zhjx7q/0/XL/kennedy-4-XL.jpg
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> X10 with new sensor.
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Re: look at this

[Jeffery Smith]

G! He used a double-negative in the descrption. 

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On Aug 12, 2012, at 21:42, jn289  wrote:

> I guess we are all screwed
> 
> 
> 
> http://comsecllc.blogspot.com/2012/06/insect-spy-drone-already-in-production.html
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Replacement for Pentax K-5

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Now that it seems to be officially discontinued, will the replacement for the 
Pentax K-5 be unearthed at Photokina? Any concrete ideas of what the 
replacement will be? The prices of K-5 bodies are now below $900, so the 
replacement will have to be pretty special to justify the additional cost.

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Re: Replacement for Pentax K-5

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I would liquidate my assets for a full frame Pentax dSLR. I have the 31, 43, 
and 77 high end lenses, and I could do just about everything I shoot with these 
three lenses.

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On Aug 13, 2012, at 7:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Aug 13, 2012, at 5:11 PM, David Parsons wrote:
> 
>> They will 'leak' it in the weeks leading up to Photokina.  It's all
>> very choreographed.
> 
> I ran across this interesting analysis by Falk Lumo:
> http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2012/06/true-reasons-full-frame.html
> 
> I haven't checked the accuracy of his assertions on price per image quality, 
> but they seem reasonable.
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>>> Now that it seems to be officially discontinued, will the replacement for 
>>> the Pentax K-5 be unearthed at Photokina? Any concrete ideas of what the 
>>> replacement will be? The prices of K-5 bodies are now below $900, so the 
>>> replacement will have to be pretty special to justify the additional cost.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
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Re: Pentax Si

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The price is attractive, but the "discontinued" might have been premature 
(pre-Photokina). The only thing I would change about the K-5 is to put Fuji's 
APS sensor in it.

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> on 2012-08-14 17:33 P. J. Alling wrote
>> Funny, it's available today at B&H and it's not listed as discontinued.   It 
>> is
>> a very nice price however...
> 
> at B&H the kit is listed as discontinued, "body only" is not; no idea what 
> that means; K-30, K-5 and K-r all seem like active products here:
> 
> <http://www.pentaximaging.com/dslr>
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Re: Pentax Si

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Not to stray OT, but 43 seems extinct (with the future apparently entirely m43 
for Olympus). I have an m43 Panasonic, and don't like it even with the optional 
EVF. The new Sony 20mp no-VF Rollei-35 killer isn't catching the world by 
storm. Who are the enthusiasts who love a high-end camera the size of a pack of 
Camels? Is the dSLR market driven entirely by Facebook posters? Won't their 
iPhone cameras suffice? 

Not to vent here, but I'm thinking that I'd better pick up an Olympus E-5 
simply because I'm already invested in fourthirds. And it makes me appreciate 
more that Pentax will continue to make cameras that can be held with 6-8 
fingers rather than just 4.

Jeffery

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On Aug 14, 2012, at 20:39, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:17 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>> 
>> From: Bruce Walker
>> 
>>> http://www.minimallyminimal.com/2012/8/12/pentax-si.html
>> 
>> 
>> Still no eye-level viewfinder. Not for the bi-focal impaired, shaky hands
>> generation.
> 
> I love the description that Kirk Tuck uses for the way you have to use
> rear-screen-only cameras: the dirty diaper hold.
> 
> It's entirely possible that cameras that the far-sighted, shaky-hands
> set can use might effectively disappear. Look what's happened with
> phones: there isn't one on the market that I can use without glasses.
> They are all designed by people with excellent vision, so they don't
> give a flying fuck whether far-sighted folks can use them. I've
> learned to use my SLR pretty much by feel, and the viewfinder with
> diopter adjustment makes that possible. I don't use my iPod or cell
> phone unless I absolutely have to; I've learned to detest cellphones.
> 
> The trending seems to be toward P&S's being folded into cell phones
> and mirrorless designs replacing everything else. SLRs would gravitate
> upward into the rarified, ultra-pricey Pro market along with medium
> format digital back types of kit. Probably talking $3000 bodies and up
> only.
> 
> Where would that leave us? Screwed. Maybe EVFs with diopters will save
> the day. Remains to be seen.
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Re: Pentax Si

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I guess that I'm wondering how many 15+ mp cameras are being used for more than 
3 mp ( or less). I cannot imagine buying a 20 mp camera with no viewfinder. It 
seems to define the term "snapshot". 

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On Aug 14, 2012, at 21:17, Steven Desjardins  wrote:

> The Sony is the third best selling camera on Amazon.  It's done really
> well as far as I know.  Lots of enthusiasts are buying a serious P&S
> to compliment they DSLR system.  I know I get tired of toting the K7
> and lens around Disneyworld, etc.  That's why I got the X10.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>> Not to stray OT, but 43 seems extinct (with the future apparently entirely 
>> m43 for Olympus). I have an m43 Panasonic, and don't like it even with the 
>> optional EVF. The new Sony 20mp no-VF Rollei-35 killer isn't catching the 
>> world by storm. Who are the enthusiasts who love a high-end camera the size 
>> of a pack of Camels? Is the dSLR market driven entirely by Facebook posters? 
>> Won't their iPhone cameras suffice?
>> 
>> Not to vent here, but I'm thinking that I'd better pick up an Olympus E-5 
>> simply because I'm already invested in fourthirds. And it makes me 
>> appreciate more that Pentax will continue to make cameras that can be held 
>> with 6-8 fingers rather than just 4.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> USA
>> 
>> On Aug 14, 2012, at 20:39, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:17 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Bruce Walker
>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.minimallyminimal.com/2012/8/12/pentax-si.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Still no eye-level viewfinder. Not for the bi-focal impaired, shaky hands
>>>> generation.
>>> 
>>> I love the description that Kirk Tuck uses for the way you have to use
>>> rear-screen-only cameras: the dirty diaper hold.
>>> 
>>> It's entirely possible that cameras that the far-sighted, shaky-hands
>>> set can use might effectively disappear. Look what's happened with
>>> phones: there isn't one on the market that I can use without glasses.
>>> They are all designed by people with excellent vision, so they don't
>>> give a flying fuck whether far-sighted folks can use them. I've
>>> learned to use my SLR pretty much by feel, and the viewfinder with
>>> diopter adjustment makes that possible. I don't use my iPod or cell
>>> phone unless I absolutely have to; I've learned to detest cellphones.
>>> 
>>> The trending seems to be toward P&S's being folded into cell phones
>>> and mirrorless designs replacing everything else. SLRs would gravitate
>>> upward into the rarified, ultra-pricey Pro market along with medium
>>> format digital back types of kit. Probably talking $3000 bodies and up
>>> only.
>>> 
>>> Where would that leave us? Screwed. Maybe EVFs with diopters will save
>>> the day. Remains to be seen.
>>> 
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Re: Pentax Si

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Olympus seems to be hinting that all 43 lenses will be fully usable on m43 
bodies (via a future adaptor), which is somewhat comforting. 

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On Aug 15, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

> Jeffery,
> 
> Micro-FourThirds is the sensible direction for future FourThirds
> format cameras. It delivers on all the promises of FourThirds format.
> The E-M5 is a very fine camera, as are the Pens. (Panasonic's G1 was
> to me the best of the Panasonics. As it usually does, Panasonic puts a
> huge effort into their introductory camera and then they seem to peter
> out. However, their mFT lenses are pretty darn nice.) The Olympus EVF,
> however, and image stabilization is state of the art.
> 
> That said, Olympus is continuing to produce the E-5 (and it is a
> marvelous camera) and their state of the art lenses for it for their
> professional community, which is larger than most people think. For
> many professional purposes, the SLR is still the best choice in
> responsiveness and versatility. Another generation or two on the mFT
> and the moving mirror  camera will be well superceded.
> 
> The Sony RX100 is selling very well. However, it's not a "Rollei 35
> killer" at all. It's a good performer, but without a view finder and
> without simple to see and set, discrete controls it just does nothing
> to make me want to trade it for my Rollei 35S. The Leica X2, on the
> other hand, is the closest thing I've seen to a Rollei 35S in a
> digital camera: I'm loving it.
> 
> G
> 
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>> Not to stray OT, but 43 seems extinct (with the future apparently entirely 
>> m43 for Olympus). I have an m43 Panasonic, and don't like it even with the 
>> optional EVF. The new Sony 20mp no-VF Rollei-35 killer isn't catching the 
>> world by storm. Who are the enthusiasts who love a high-end camera the size 
>> of a pack of Camels? Is the dSLR market driven entirely by Facebook posters? 
>> Won't their iPhone cameras suffice?
>> 
>> Not to vent here, but I'm thinking that I'd better pick up an Olympus E-5 
>> simply because I'm already invested in fourthirds. And it makes me 
>> appreciate more that Pentax will continue to make cameras that can be held 
>> with 6-8 fingers rather than just 4.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
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>> USA
>> 
>> On Aug 14, 2012, at 20:39, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:17 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Bruce Walker
>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.minimallyminimal.com/2012/8/12/pentax-si.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Still no eye-level viewfinder. Not for the bi-focal impaired, shaky hands
>>>> generation.
>>> 
>>> I love the description that Kirk Tuck uses for the way you have to use
>>> rear-screen-only cameras: the dirty diaper hold.
>>> 
>>> It's entirely possible that cameras that the far-sighted, shaky-hands
>>> set can use might effectively disappear. Look what's happened with
>>> phones: there isn't one on the market that I can use without glasses.
>>> They are all designed by people with excellent vision, so they don't
>>> give a flying fuck whether far-sighted folks can use them. I've
>>> learned to use my SLR pretty much by feel, and the viewfinder with
>>> diopter adjustment makes that possible. I don't use my iPod or cell
>>> phone unless I absolutely have to; I've learned to detest cellphones.
>>> 
>>> The trending seems to be toward P&S's being folded into cell phones
>>> and mirrorless designs replacing everything else. SLRs would gravitate
>>> upward into the rarified, ultra-pricey Pro market along with medium
>>> format digital back types of kit. Probably talking $3000 bodies and up
>>> only.
>>> 
>>> Where would that leave us? Screwed. Maybe EVFs with diopters will save
>>> the day. Remains to be seen.
>>> 
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Knarf in the City

[Jeffery Smith]

Like Dilbert and Dave's Top Ten List, I am so dependent on being knarfed on a 
daily basis, I would perhaps panic without a daily dose. Lluis Ripoll does the 
samefor me on the LUG.

Knarf on! I like them all. 

Jeffery

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OT!: Olympus Four Thirds

[Jeffery Smith]

Sorry about the OT content, but Olympus is now announcing that they will have 
new four thirds dSLR. I think this announcement is a reaction to the US Olympus 
person implying that the 43 line might be dead, with m43 taking over that 
market.

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Re: OT!: Olympus Four Thirds

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You're right. It could be an m43 body with some sort of feature(s) to increase 
43 lens compatibility. 

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On Aug 18, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Bob W wrote:

>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Godfrey DiGiorgi
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Jeffery Smith 
>> wrote:
>>> Sorry about the OT content, but Olympus is now announcing that they
>> will have new four thirds dSLR. I think this announcement is a reaction
>> to the US Olympus person implying that the 43 line might be dead, with
>> m43 taking over that market.
>> 
>> Olympus officials said that they were working on the next pro DSLR
>> model a year and some back. It's probably close to release now, that's
>> all, and the usual internet jabber is making a big deal of it... ;-)
> 
> 
> they're not quite announcing a DSLR, but they are saying something:
> <http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/539055/olympus-interview-ne
> w-camera-for-e-system-lenses-update>
> 
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Re: OT - 25 GB Free Cloud Storage

[Jeffery Smith]

I have been using Dropbox for a while. It has worked well, but I have had two 
instances in which the entire set of folders was "deleted". I was able to go 
back and restore them in both cases, but am at a loss to determine why the were 
deleted. 

Regards,

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On Aug 18, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

> 
> Thank you, Brian.
> It looks like a good thing to try (without relying on them).
> 
> Earlier this year, they had an offer of free 50 GB but only for Android users:
> http://blog.box.com/2012/02/android-users-get-50gb-free-get-your-box50gb-and-enter-the-box-mobile-giveaway/
> 
> Brian, since you have used it already, - how is the upload done from
> a computer: via web-browser, via a browser plugin that you are supposed
> to install, via stand-alone application, ... ?
> This part is not  clear from their FAQ.
> 
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> 
> Sat Aug 18 18:14:19 EDT 2012
> Brian Walters wrote:
> 
>> G'day all
>> 
>> If anyone is interested in cloud storage, this offer from Box.com looks good:
>> 
>> https://www.box.com/signup/o/hellosign_25
>> 
>> 
>> I've been using Box lightly for a few years and it works well.   
>> Normally the free account is 5GB (Dropbox's free account is 2GB)
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO: Ugli Fungi

[Jeffery Smith]

I think it's a fan fungus. They can be rather elaborate. ;-)

http://colorfulcollectionsny.com/zencart/images/fungus_moose.JPG

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On Aug 19, 2012, at 12:07 PM, "Bob W"  wrote:

>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Daniel J. Matyola
>> 
>> I found this in my yard after two days of rain.  I have no idea what it
>> is:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16323254
>> 
>> Apparently, some critter in the yard thought it looked tasty:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16323272
>> 
> 
> You have a Frenchman in your undergrowth. Or a Russian.
> 
>> Comments, and help in identifying these tumorous growths, will be
>> appreciated.
>> 
> 
> Looks a bit like one of these:
> <http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/gallery/DisplayBlock~bid~6574~source~gallery
> chooserresult.asp>
> 
> Quote: " Very common. Deadly Poisonous - After eating over a period it has
> been known to cause death. "
> 
> So probably best not to eat it, but if you want to become Emperor of Rome
> you could try feeding it to the incumbent Emperor and see what happens.
> 
> B
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Re: PESO: Ugli Fungi

[Jeffery Smith]

Down here this has been the wettest summer in recent memory, though most of the 
US has been drought-prone. It hasn't stopped raining all day today. This has 
led to a population explosion of mushrooms (actually, poisonous toadstools, I 
think) around the city. I've run into some "fairy rings" of them at Audubon 
Park, but didn't have my camera(!).

Last week was even more annoying. James Carville jogged past me in the park, 
and me without a camera. 

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On Aug 19, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Our soil is clay over shale, but we have many pines, firs, cedars, and
> arborvitae, (as well as oaks, maples, magnolia, dogwood, ash and
> willows).
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>> It's a bolete of some sort - but there are lots of em
>> 
>> The putting the cap on white paper and covering with a glass bowl or
>> something for a while it will leave a spore print... the color of the spore
>> print is another indicator of its genus, if not species.
>> 
>> Is the soil sandy in your yard?  got some everygreens around?
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/19/2012 16:35, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for looking, Ann.  It didn't have gills, or much of a stem, and
>>> the cap had the shape of a rock more than that of must times of
>>> mushrooms I have seen.
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> we call them LBM's ( LIttle brown mushrooms...)
>>>> actually they dont look that little. but thats what 'sroom hunters call
>>>> a variety of fungi they can't id.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to have even a good guess you needed to pluck one and turn it
>>>> upsidedown.  another help is cutting  off the stem, putting the fungi
>>>> underside down on a piece of white paper and let it sit overnight, or at
>>>> least for a while.
>>>> 
>>>> Good to know what it was growing on.  if it is spongy underneath instead
>>>> ofhaving gills it is likely some sort of bolete - which doesn't mean it
>>>> is
>>>> edible.
>>>> 
>>>> It looks a bit like a bolete from the places where the critters bit.
>>>> 
>>>> still, with all that, you wouldn't be able to get it down to species.
>>>> 
>>>> ann
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/19/2012 12:44, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I found this in my yard after two days of rain.  I have no idea what it
>>>>> is:
>>>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16323254
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently, some critter in the yard thought it looked tasty:
>>>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16323272
>>>>> 
>>>>> Comments, and help in identifying these tumorous growths, will be
>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan Matyola
>>>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>>> 
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Re: PESO: Ugli Fungi

[Jeffery Smith]

Some people think so, but I think he's pretty charismatic for a political 
pundit.

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On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Bob W wrote:

>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Jeffery Smith
>> 
>> Down here this has been the wettest summer in recent memory, though
>> most of the US has been drought-prone. It hasn't stopped raining all
>> day today. This has led to a population explosion of mushrooms
>> (actually, poisonous toadstools, I think) around the city. I've run
>> into some "fairy rings" of them at Audubon Park, but didn't have my
>> camera(!).
>> 
>> Last week was even more annoying. James Carville jogged past me in the
>> park, and me without a camera.
>> 
> 
> is he some kind of poisonous toadstool?
> 
> B
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Re: PESO: Ugli Fungi

[Jeffery Smith]

Carville teaches at my alma mater, and I assume that he lives near the park.

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On Aug 20, 2012, at 12:12 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> From: Ann Sanfedele
> 
>> On 8/19/2012 19:33, Bob W wrote:
>>>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>>>> Jeffery Smith
>>>> 
>>>> Down here this has been the wettest summer in recent memory, though
>>>> most of the US has been drought-prone. It hasn't stopped raining all
>>>> day today. This has led to a population explosion of mushrooms
>>>> (actually, poisonous toadstools, I think) around the city. I've run
>>>> into some "fairy rings" of them at Audubon Park, but didn't have my
>>>> camera(!).
>>>> 
>>>> Last week was even more annoying. James Carville jogged past me in the
>>>> park, and me without a camera.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> is he some kind of poisonous toadstool?
>>> 
>>> B
>>> 
>> quite the opposite :-)
>> 
>> ann
> 
> The one Democrat who sticks it to the Republicans on a regular basis.
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Re: Sigma 70-300

[Jeffery Smith]

I have the 50/1.4. It is big and heavy, but is a very good fast normal lens. 
The 30/1.4 is better in the center than the edges, but I rarely care about the 
edges. Who shoots landscapes at f/1.4 anyway?

I don't have any "bad" Sigma lenses, but their build quality and reliability 
are suspect, and they are way heavier than they need to be.

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On Aug 20, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> I have the 30mm F1.4 and it’s difficult but awfully nice, I mean *awfully* 
> nice.
> 
> For example, see
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/10/13/Pictures-of-Wata
> 
> So, easy, just ignore the zoom and buy a prime. Problem solved! -T
> 
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:42 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>> From: "Collin Brendemuehl"
>> 
>>> I have heard so much bad about Stigma electronics the past couple of years
>>> that I would avoid them just out of principle.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Collin Brendemuehl
>> 
>> 
>> I have 4 Sigman lenses, 300mm f/2.8, 30mm f/1.4, 10-20mm zoom & 50-500
>> "Bigma". I would rate the first two excellent, the third very good.
>> 
>> I haven't learned to get the best from the Bigma.
>> 
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Introduction

[Jeffery Smith]

Greetings,

I'm a newbie on the forum. Have been using Pentax off an on since buying my 
first Pentax Spotmatic back in 1968. Made a regrettable change to Nikon in the 
mid-70s and found the bodies to be a bit more prone to breaking than my 
Pentax). I now have both film type and digital Pentaxes, including a K-7 w/ 
31/1.8 that just arrived yesterday.

I hope to be an asset on this forum. 

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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Jeffery Smith]

I looked at the new Sony FF dSLR, and wasn't impressed by the specs in 
light of the fact that its normal (50mm) lens is decidedly sub-par 
compared to the competition. Another concern about FF dSLR is their 
performance when coupled with lenses originally designed for digital use 
(which may be optimized for the middle of the frame, but may be pretty 
poor near the edges of a full frame). Finally, I'm more than happy 
having my 300mm Pentax lens experiencing a crop factor that makes it 
seem more like a 450mm lens. Sure beats lugging around a 40mm lens.


I do wish that Pentax had kept the *ist dSLR size instead of getting 
bigger and bigger. The K-7 is really built like a tank, but it is more 
of a chore to carry than the *ist with a 40mm pancake.


Jeffery

Miserere wrote:

On 29 April 2010 09:22, Tom C  wrote:
  

IMO, they need to come out with a full spec pro body that at least
competes with a Canon EOS 5D MKII, or even better a Nikon D3X.

Tom C.



The problem I see, Tom, is that if Pentax do that, they cannot also
have a high-end APS-C body out at the same time. I've written this a
number of times, but I'll say it again: Pentax is not Nikon, who can
have a D300 and D700 out at the same time. If Pentax go FF, they'll
have a single FF body, and it will be the top of the line. Below it
will be 2 APS-C bodies: A K-x type entry level, and a K200D type mid
level. If there were a $1,000-$1,300 top-tier APS-C body, nobody would
buy the $2,000 FF body, or at least not in significant numbers to
break even..

How would this affect current Pentax users? Sure, a small number would
migrate to the FF body, but many like myself would be left without an
upgrade path. If Pentax don't release top-tier APS-C bodies, I will
probably leave the brand. Unless the FF body is K-7 sized and $1,500,
I probably won't consider it. I'm not alone in feeling like this
either.

With APS-C sensors reaching such good high-ISO performance levels, the
case for FF grows weaker with every new sensor released. "Using my
lenses at the FoV they were intended for" is not a reason to go FF as
far as I'm concerned, and certainly not as far as the camera companies
are concerned, because they want to sell *new* lenses.

The time to go FF for camera companies was either no later than 2
years ago (when the low light advantage was there without a doubt), or
3-5 years from now (when prices for FF sensors drop low enough that it
makes sense to stick them in almost every camera). But right now we're
in a no-man's land for FF: APS-C sensors are starting to perform
really well in low light (Pentax K-x, Canon 7D), they're also
delivering 14-17MP without problems and will likely reach 20MP soon,
not to mention the dynamic range advantage of FF is either gone or
disappearing. And APS-C does this at less than half the cost of a FF
sensor.

I really didn't want to get into a FF vs APS-C debate, because I've
found most people treat FF as a religion, which means reason is
persona non grata most of the time.

Please ignore my post and continue with your regularly scheduled pun thread  :-)


  --M.


  



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Re: Introduction

[Jeffery Smith]

I actually did pick up some screw mount M42 lenses that I had yearned for as a 
teenager (like the 50/1.4 with the rare earth element) and a few wides. I 
picked up a Voigtlander (Cosina) screw mount body to use them. It sure doesn't 
fare well compared to the old Spotmatic or K1000, but does have a pretty good 
viewfinder.

I have read nothing but good about the 31/1.8 lens. I hope to put it through 
its paces this weekend. I usually test drive a lens by taking a trip to the 
zoo. Lots of unusual sights on both sides of the bars.

Does the group have a place where you post pictures, or do you mainly use your 
own web sites or blogs?

And thank you all for the kind welcomes!

Jeffery



On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Welcome Jeffery,
> You're gonna love the 31 Limited on the K-7.
> A bunch of us here have been with Pentax for a long time.
> I started with an ME and M-lenses, then worked back to screw-mount.
> Then these guys showed me what fun digital was.
> Hold onto your wallet!
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> I'm a newbie on the forum. Have been using Pentax off an on since buying my 
>> first Pentax Spotmatic back in 1968. Made a regrettable change to Nikon in 
>> the mid-70s and found the bodies to be a bit more prone to breaking than my 
>> Pentax). I now have both film type and digital Pentaxes, including a K-7 w/ 
>> 31/1.8 that just arrived yesterday.
>> 
>> I hope to be an asset on this forum.
>> 
>> Jeffery Smith
>> New Orleans, LA
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Re: Introduction

[Jeffery Smith]

I've got a couple of 6x7 cameras (Mamiya, Fuji), but the loss of nearly 
all C41 labs down here and the dust problem (when souping my own) has 
left me pretty much digitally-inclined.


I'll mind my Ps and Qs. ;-)

Jeffery

David J Brooks wrote:

Welcome aboard Jeffery.

I've been shooting Pentax since 1971 and now shoot with Nikon (2001)
and Pentax (2004) digital equipment.

I kept my 6x7 for when every one comes to their senses.

Dave Brooks

PS I'm in charge of spelling here, so if you need help.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
  

Greetings,

I'm a newbie on the forum. Have been using Pentax off an on since buying my 
first Pentax Spotmatic back in 1968. Made a regrettable change to Nikon in the 
mid-70s and found the bodies to be a bit more prone to breaking than my 
Pentax). I now have both film type and digital Pentaxes, including a K-7 w/ 
31/1.8 that just arrived yesterday.

I hope to be an asset on this forum.

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Re: Introduction

[Jeffery Smith]

Thanks for the links. Do any of you write reviews of the equipment 
you've worked with?


Jeffery

John Sessoms wrote:

There's always the PDML PUG ...

Submissions page:

http://www.pdmlpug.org/

"Current" Pentax Users Gallery:

http://pug.komkon.org/


From: Bob Sullivan

Jeffery,
I post my pictures on photo.net or picasa.

http://photo.net/photos/bsullivan
http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan

Others use flicker or their own sites.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jeffery Smith  
wrote:
> I actually did pick up some screw mount M42 lenses that I had 
yearned for as a teenager (like the 50/1.4 with the rare earth 
element) and a few wides. I picked up a Voigtlander (Cosina) screw 
mount body to use them. It sure doesn't fare well compared to the 
old Spotmatic or K1000, but does have a pretty good viewfinder.

>
> I have read nothing but good about the 31/1.8 lens. I hope to put 
it through its paces this weekend. I usually test drive a lens by 
taking a trip to the zoo. Lots of unusual sights on both sides of 
the bars.

>
> Does the group have a place where you post pictures, or do you 
mainly use your own web sites or blogs?

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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Jeffery Smith]

My concern with the Sony was the weak performance wide open, which is
sort of counterproductive for a fast lens. Dpreview is the only review
I have seen of it. They did feel that it was comparable to the others,
when stopped down. The problems with it seem to be exacerbated when
using a full frame digital"
>From Dpreview
"Having reviewed four other 50mm F1.4 lenses of similar design over
the past few months, we weren't expecting any major surprises from the
Sony version. And in broad terms it's not hugely different from its
Canon, Nikon and Pentax equivalents; as befits a quality prime it
gives excellent image quality when stopped down, but struggles
somewhat when used wide open, showing common problems such as corner
softness, halation, bokeh chromatic aberration, and vignetting on full
frame."

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Adam Maas  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>> I looked at the new Sony FF dSLR, and wasn't impressed by the specs in light
>> of the fact that its normal (50mm) lens is decidedly sub-par compared to the
>> competition.
>>
>> Jeffery
>>
>
> The Sony 50/1.4 is as good as the Canon or Nikon 50/1.4's and almost
> as good as the FA 50/1.4 (which is IMHO the best of the 1st party
> 50/1.4's). Sony's 50/2.8 Macro is pretty much best in class for a 1st
> party normal macro. Their only weak spot for normals is the lack of a
> FF budget 50mm, which they share with Pentax (as neither currently
> makes their older 50/1.7 designs). While a lot of Sony types like to
> complain about the lack of a Zeiss ZA 50, there's nothing wrong with
> the current option other than it doesn't render similarly to the
> popular ZA primes.
>
> The best 50/1.4's on the market today are the Zeiss Planar (available
> in K, F and EF mounts, but not A mount) and the Sigma 50/1.4 HSM
> (available in all common mounts).
>
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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Jeffery Smith]

Wooo! I like it here.

And I don't disagree with anyone. But after 10 years on the Leica Users Group 
where anything un-Leica is prone to get one tarred and feathered, I like to see 
these opinions. It's like I'm re-discovering freedom of speech!

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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Jeffery Smith]

My ability to word process was never faster than when I used XyWrite
II+ on MSDOS. The entire program fit on one floppy disk and loaded
itself completely into memory. I think my efficiency was cut by about
50% with the advent of Windows. Prettier and more fun, but slower and
much, much more likely to crash.

Jeffery

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 1:46 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: CheekyGeek
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>
>>> > Apple is very good at making it easy to do the things that they think
>>> > you
>>> > should do. It can be very challenging however if you think differently.
>>
>> While this is a fairly obvious troll line, I must respectfully disagree.
>> Anyone who lived through (and with) the popularization of computers
>> among the masses must remember what it was like to learn DOS and to be
>> fumbling through a manual to learn the cryptic command that one must
>> type (without syntax errors) to accomplish ANYTHING before the
>> Macintosh. In contrast, upon seeing the first Macintosh running in an
>> Office supply store without knowing anything at all about it, one
>> could walk up... grab the single button mouse (which I had never seen
>> before) and it was immediately OBVIOUS what one would do with it.
>> Click, select, drag. One could easily learn to use both applications
>> MacWrite and MacPaint without ever cracking a book. It was a paradigm
>> changer: a computer which worked virtually as you thought it should.
>>
>
> I don't consider it such a "obvious troll line". Learning to deal with a
> command line wasn't that hard. It was a bigger deal regaining speed when the
> GUIs took over. What I used to be able to do with just a few typed commands
> now took a lot longer opening and clicking menus. Especially with the
> overhead of painting the screen.

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Pentax K-x - What say you?

[Jeffery Smith]

While it is apparently marketed toward the average Joe/Jane who might want a 
bit better digital camera, what is the  verdict on the Pentax K-x? Does anyone 
on the forum have and use one?

Jeffery Smith
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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

[Jeffery Smith]

Larry and Adam, thanks for the replies.

I'm very glad to hear about the low light capabilities. I  have been using 
rangefinders primarily for the past 10 years because lack of mirror flap and 
fast lens availability made low light work possible (at least with film). I 
have followed Fuji reviews for about 5 years because of their famed low noise 
at low light levels, but didn't want to switch to the Nikon lens format. The 
Pentax K-x is priced about the same as a digicam, and I have several fast 
lenses (Sigma 30/1.4 and Pentax 50/1.4) that I could put to good use on the 
K-x. The combination of the Sigma 30/1.4 and the K-x is sounding very good it 
me right now for indoor work.

Thanks again,

Jeffery

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>> While it is apparently marketed toward the average Joe/Jane who might want a 
>> bit better digital camera, what is the  verdict on the Pentax K-x? Does 
>> anyone on the forum have and use one?
>> 
>> Jeffery Smith
> 
> Several of us have them and by and large we're happy with them.
> 
> I've been using one for a few months now and overall I'm very
> impressed by them. I do a lot of low-light work and simply put, the
> K-x is the best APS-C format camera with regards to high ISO
> performance (note I've. It's also nice and small and quite responsive.
> The only real weakness I've found is the metering, the K-x retains the
> older 16 zone meter which isn't all that reliable. The AF point issue
> (No AF point illumination in the viewfinder) isn't a problem for me as
> I simply locked the camera down to the centre point and leave it
> there, just like every other AF Pentax I've had.
> 
> Overall, it's a whole lot of camera for the money, but it does have
> its limitations, primarily the basic build quality, small buffer,AA
> batteries (Battery life is pitiful compared to the D300 I used to
> have), no grip, no support for a remote release and poor Live View
> implementation.
> 
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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

[Jeffery Smith]

Did you shoot in RAW mode? That seems to make a world of difference noise-wise 
in some cameras.

Jeffery


On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> Well, you would have to determine what factors are most important to
> you.  As far as low light goes, it is the best Pentax body and
> possibly the best APS-C body from any maker.  As far as size and
> ergonomics, it is great.  Now, does it compare to the K20D or K7 when
> it comes to things like robust body, weather sealing, more specific
> options?  Probably not.  It is a generation ahead of the K20D so I
> find the AF to be a little better than the K20, probably not far from
> the K7.
> 
> You will need to tell us more of what is important to you.  I can say
> that it has changed some of my shooting style and thinking because of
> the high ISO ability.  You can dial up the ISO and get great shots.
> Here is an ISO 1600 shot - no  post processing other than sizing down
> for web:
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-00063.htm
> 
> Highly recommended camera for the money.  If I could only have/use
> one body between my K-x and K20D, it would be the K-x.
> 
> -- 
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> Bruce
> 
> 
> Friday, April 30, 2010, 4:15:38 PM, you wrote:
> 
> JS> While it is apparently marketed toward the average Joe/Jane who
> JS> might want a bit better digital camera, what is the  verdict on
> JS> the Pentax K-x? Does anyone on the forum have and use one?
> 
> JS> Jeffery Smith
> JS> New Orleans, LA
> 
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Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog

[Jeffery Smith]

There is an 80-mile stretch of old highway between New Orleans and Baton Rouge 
that is called Airline Highway. Your photos really remind me of the diners that 
dotted that pre-freeway stretch of highway, sort of like a shorter Route-66. 
I'll try to take some time this weekend to go through your diner blog. I like 
it.

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Re: Introduction

[Jeffery Smith]

I'm used to digressing threads, though I rarely witness a Mac versus Windows 
battle any more. I use a Mac most of the time because I like the software 
available for it. It also allows me to very quickly filter all posts with the 
word "Mac" in them so I can drag and drop them to the trash can. I hope there 
was no Pentax content in them.

And cute kids photos can be more challenging than landscape. The subjects are 
easier to find, but harder to photograph.

I'm happy to see that I'm not the only geezer here. I'll be hitting 60 in three 
week. Scary.

Jeffery

On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

> Erm, welcome Jeffery!
> 
> Do you receive the list emails or the digress, erm, digest?
> 
> You will soon learn that this list is as much a battle of wits as it is a
> battle of Pentax enablement.
> 
> Btw, I am Tanya, aka, fairygirl.  I am one of the few roses amongst the
> thorns, and also the baby of the bunch (I think?  I may have lost that title
> now though, as I am getting a bit
> long in the tooth these days).  Don't ask me why I have this weird habit of
> hanging out with a bunch of geeky old farts, but alas, here I am. 
> 
> Btw, don't believe anything that Cotty tells you.  Just thought I'd repost
> what he'd already said, in case you didn't believe him. :)  I've met him in
> true life, and truly, he is NOT to be
> trusted!  I do love him though! :)  Oh, and don't trust anyone on the list
> who happens to be Welsh, plays really good guitar and makes a habit of
> taking really good hummingbird photos
> either! :)
> 
> Oh, and when you hear of references to tattoos and "medical photos" in
> relation to me, ignore those too, it's all just some manufactured fairytale
> that Bill Robb concocted.
> 
> I am an Aussie, and I use Pentax too, but I take photos of cute kids, and I
> totally suck at the nature and landscape stuff that most of the guys here
> tend to favour.  I am also
> here to prove that Pentax CAN be used by "pro" photographers.
> 
> Lastly, don't post ANYTHING unless you are prepared for your thread to be
> hi-jacked with nonsensical drival, such as that displayed below!
> 
> Tan.x.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob
> W
> Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 5:34 AM
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: Introduction
> 
 
> There's always the PDML PUG ...
> 
 
 Technically, it's just the PUG.
>> 
>>> That may be technically true, but if you just Google PUG you end up 
>>> with a lot of pictures of small yappy dogs...
>>> 
>> 
>> 1) That is a Google issue.
>> 2) Pugs are not yappy dogs.
>> 
> 
> Pug is also a bar/restaurant in Chiswick, London. I posted a photo from
> there many years ago.
> 
> 
> It is so named because Hogarth lived in Chiswick and across the road from
> the restaurant there is a statue of him and his yappy dog.
> 
> Bob
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Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog

[Jeffery Smith]

Camillia Grill is famous for their waffles as well as a hamburger with raw meat 
in it (the cannibal). You hit the nail on the head regarding its appearance. It 
had closed after Katrina (when we were having to pay $15/hour for dishwashers 
down here), but I think it's up and running again.

Jeffery


On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Thanks, Jeffery.
> 
> Are you familiar with the Camillia in New Orleans?  From the outside
> it looks like a miniature southern plantation house.  Inside, its pure
> Jersey diner.  It is a well-know institution there, from what I hear.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>> There is an 80-mile stretch of old highway between New Orleans and Baton 
>> Rouge that is called Airline Highway. Your photos really remind me of the 
>> diners that dotted that pre-freeway stretch of highway, sort of like a 
>> shorter Route-66. I'll try to take some time this weekend to go through your 
>> diner blog. I like it.
>> 
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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

[Jeffery Smith]

Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored 
body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as it is really 
not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.

Jeffery

On May 1, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

> 2010/5/1 William Robb :
>>> Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one.
>> The what?
>> Stick with ballparks.
> 
> There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-)
> 
> I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like
> a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO
> 6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from
> overwhelming. Would be very tempted if I didn't already have K-7.
> 
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Re: Introduction

[Jeffery Smith]

Hi Boris, it has been a long time since I saw your name. Perhaps you were/are 
on one of Stephen Gandy's forums? 

Jeffery


On May 1, 2010, at 12:32 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Hi, Jeffery. But I am thinking we're been introduced before, on another list. 
> I am glad you came about to owning fine Pentax gear. Thus, I should be 
> looking forward to your pictures.
> 
> Boris
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/29/2010 7:27 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> I'm a newbie on the forum. Have been using Pentax off an on since buying my 
>> first Pentax Spotmatic back in 1968. Made a regrettable change to Nikon in 
>> the mid-70s and found the bodies to be a bit more prone to breaking than my 
>> Pentax). I now have both film type and digital Pentaxes, including a K-7 w/ 
>> 31/1.8 that just arrived yesterday.
>> 
>> I hope to be an asset on this forum.
>> 
>> Jeffery Smith
>> New Orleans, LA
> 
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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

[Jeffery Smith]

Figures.

On May 1, 2010, at 10:08 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

>> 
>> Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored 
>> body with the zoom lens?
> 
> Marketing.
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/1/2010 11:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored 
>> body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as it is 
>> really not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>> On May 1, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> 2010/5/1 William Robb:
>>> 
>>>>> Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one.
>>>>> 
>>>> The what?
>>>> Stick with ballparks.
>>>>   
>>> There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-)
>>> 
>>> I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like
>>> a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO
>>> 6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from
>>> overwhelming. Would be very tempted if I didn't already have K-7.
>>> 
>>> Jostein
>>> 
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Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog

[Jeffery Smith]

Was there a camera store (Moldaner's) about 100 feet away from Camellia Grill? 
That is the only photography shop left in New Orleans (the city of) since the 
storm. It has since moved closer to Tulane University, replacing Maple Street 
Camera (the second to last photography shop in the city). 

I was hoping to drive down to the south shore line to see what has become of it 
since the oil spill (which is now the size of Puerto Rico), but the sheriffs 
down there don't want any pictures taken. A fellow biology professor tried two 
days ago and they ran her out. They ran me out several years ago for trying to 
photograph herons near an oil refinery in Venice. Rough times for photographers 
since it is now so easy to post images on the web. Anyone with a camera is seen 
as a threat.

Jeffery


On May 1, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> The Camilla Grill was open two years ago when I was down there with my
> wife, who was attending a science teachers' convention.  While she was
> at a session, I took the St Charles Street trolley out to Camilla for
> breakfast,  The ride through the Garden District was a real joy.  Once
> inside, the Camilla was just like a Jersey diner.  They don't even
> serve beignets!
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>> Camillia Grill is famous for their waffles as well as a hamburger with raw 
>> meat in it (the cannibal). You hit the nail on the head regarding its 
>> appearance. It had closed after Katrina (when we were having to pay $15/hour 
>> for dishwashers down here), but I think it's up and running again.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, Jeffery.
>>> 
>>> Are you familiar with the Camillia in New Orleans?  From the outside
>>> it looks like a miniature southern plantation house.  Inside, its pure
>>> Jersey diner.  It is a well-know institution there, from what I hear.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>>>> There is an 80-mile stretch of old highway between New Orleans and Baton 
>>>> Rouge that is called Airline Highway. Your photos really remind me of the 
>>>> diners that dotted that pre-freeway stretch of highway, sort of like a 
>>>> shorter Route-66. I'll try to take some time this weekend to go through 
>>>> your diner blog. I like it.
>>>> 
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Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog

[Jeffery Smith]

South of New Orleans, human rights tend to be optional. The refineries don't 
want any negative publicity, and since the sheriff is an elected position, they 
do whatever the refineries ask.

Jeffery

On May 1, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Bob W wrote:

>> I was hoping to drive down to the south shore line to see 
>> what has become of it since the oil spill (which is now the 
>> size of Puerto Rico), but the sheriffs down there don't want 
>> any pictures taken. A fellow biology professor tried two days 
>> ago and they ran her out. They ran me out several years ago 
>> for trying to photograph herons near an oil refinery in 
>> Venice. Rough times for photographers since it is now so easy 
>> to post images on the web. Anyone with a camera is seen as a threat.
> 
> What are they worried about? Aren't these public places, and don't people
> have a right to know about the destruction the oil leak is causing?
> 
> Bob
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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Jeffery Smith]

Mac has some software available for it that Windows cannot touch. That is one 
of the reasons for my moving to Mac. And it boots up and connects to drives, 
the web, etc. in about 45 seconds. My "fast" Dell takes about 15 minutes to get 
past all of the "not responding" issues before it will actually function. 

For people in the business world, Windows rules. For people who are writers, 
academics, or otherwise right brained, the Mac fills some serious voids that 
Windows doesn't even address. Like most of the software from Devon Technologies 
and other information managers.

Jeffery

P.S. - can we change the subject line to Mac versus Windows? That poor K-7 has 
been out of the mix for several days, and it deserves better. ;-)
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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Jeffery Smith]

Vista. I "looks" like it is ready after about 45 seconds, but trying to start 
an application will only get you a "program not responding" or some similar 
sort of error message along the top of the screen.

On May 2, 2010, at 7:19 AM, eckinator wrote:

> 2010/5/2 Adam Maas :
>> 
>> My HP Laptop takes about 2 minutes to boot fully, from sleep it's
>> 30-45 seconds. My fastest booting Mac is slower (but is a G4).
> 
> Sounds like XP, or worse Vista?
> 
>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>>> Mac [...] boots up and connects to drives, the web, etc. in about 45 
>>> seconds. My "fast" Dell takes about 15 minutes to get past all of the "not 
>>> responding" issues before it will actually function.
> 
> Sounds like your system is all messed up - "not responding" is not
> default Windows behaviour =P
> 
> I've yet to switch to Mac but have to give it to M$ that with Win7
> they've for the first time since 2000 Pro (and before) put an OS in my
> hands that is actually fast and stable and clean. I am super happy
> with it and since they've split it into chunks that are loaded as
> needed both startup and running are quite fast plus it works well on
> older hardware. My ex-XP Lenovo T61 runs faster under 7 than it ever
> did under XP. Vista RC1 had despite 2 GB of RAM and a reasonably fast
> CPU for all practical purposes brought it to its knees, mind you.
> 
> So if you're unhappy with Windows, you may actually want to try an
> upgrade on your old hardware. Just make sure you have a version which
> includes the XP Virtual Machine so that you can run all legacy
> software.
> 
> *end shameless plug*
> 
> Cheers
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Re: POTY

[Jeffery Smith]

Good find!

On May 2, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Bob W wrote:

> I found this interesting site while searching for something else. It's the
> Pictures of the Year from the Missouri School of Journalism, which is
> well-known for its encouragement of this sort of thing, so some excellent
> photojournalism:
> 
> 
> Bob
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Re: POTY - nature shot from Louisiana

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http://www.poyi.org/67/01/02.php

I didn't define what I meant by "shot".

Jeffery


On May 2, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Bob W wrote:

> I found this interesting site while searching for something else. It's the
> Pictures of the Year from the Missouri School of Journalism, which is
> well-known for its encouragement of this sort of thing, so some excellent
> photojournalism:
> 
> 
> Bob
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Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog

[Jeffery Smith]

I've had a chance to peruse the Diner Blog this weekend. I very much like the 
subject matter, and it is nice to be able to click on the images to get them 
large on the  monitor. My only suggestion (and this is very minor and pretty 
much just my taste) might be to try a thin border around each photo to offset 
it a bit from the background of the blog. A thin black line might do it. In PS, 
that is pretty much just making the canvas size a bit bigger and making the 
overlap black instead of white.

I was going to go out and shoot some of the old places on Airline Highway this 
afternoon after church, but the President is in town to view the oil spill and 
the freeways were blocked off. It would have been a good day for the shooting 
as it is totally overcast (no harsh shadows). I look forward to seeing more of 
the diners, especially the schlocky ones made from cabooses, etc.

Jeffery
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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

[Jeffery Smith]

Actually, it isn't bad. I didn't see anything that flew out at me as poor 
optics. I'll give mine a whirl when it arrives.

Jeffery


On May 2, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> I used the kit lens on my K-x once, to see how it worked. Most of the IMGP 
> shots in this set were shot with it:
> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623732458488/
> 
> For a kit lens, it doesn't suck. Apart from my DA40 it might also be my 
> lightest lens. Which has some benefits.
> 
> On May 1, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored 
>> body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as it is 
>> really not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.
>> 
>> Jeffery
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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

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Oh dear, my iMac is not having a problem with it.

Here we go again ;-)

Jeffery


On May 2, 2010, at 4:15 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> For some reason this flacker link is causing my system to reboot.  (Win2K 
> SP4, Firefox 3.6.3), I tried it three times, three reboots.  I'll only hit 
> myself on the head with a hammer so many times.
> 
> On 5/2/2010 4:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> I used the kit lens on my K-x once, to see how it worked. Most of the IMGP 
>> shots in this set were shot with it:
>> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623732458488/
>> 
>> For a kit lens, it doesn't suck. Apart from my DA40 it might also be my 
>> lightest lens. Which has some benefits.
>> 
>> On May 1, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a 
>>> colored body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as 
>>> it is really not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.
>>> 
>>> Jeffery
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: OT Mac question

[Jeffery Smith]

I have a similar problem, except that every time mobile.me synchronizes, I get 
a popup asking me to input the username and password for a laptop that I 
stopped using about 3 years ago. Annoying as hell.

Jeffery


On May 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> My mobile.me came up for renewal in March, and i decided not to renew.
> About 2 days ago i started getting pop ups asking me to submit my user
> name and password so as to link up to idisk. It comes back stating no
> such name or password. Now i get this pop up about every 10-15
> minutes.
> 
> Can i get rid of it some how.??
> 
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Re: OT Mac question

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I hope I wrote down that password somewhere. 


On May 3, 2010, at 4:59 PM, steve harley wrote:

> On 2010-05-03 14:01 , Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> I have a similar problem, except that every time mobile.me synchronizes, I 
>> get a popup asking me to input the username and password for a laptop that I 
>> stopped using about 3 years ago. Annoying as hell.
> 
> that's likely because you transfered settings from an old machine, including 
> the old login keychain, with its old password; change the keychain password 
> to match your current account password and it should stop
> 
> (however if you can put up with the pop-ups, it is more secure the way you 
> have it -- i intentionally have a different account password than my login 
> keychain password, because that way access to my session doesn't 
> automatically grant access to my keychain)
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Re: OT Mac question

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Thanks much, Steve. I'll give it a shot.

Jeffery

On May 3, 2010, at 5:18 PM, steve harley wrote:

> On 2010-05-03 16:13 , Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> I hope I wrote down that password somewhere.
> 
> well, if you haven't been able to open that keychain for a while, you've been 
> doing okay without its contents, and could just reset it
> 
> here is a detailed explanation and steps for this and related actions:
> 
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1060>
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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

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Good God! Godfrey's on the Pentax list!  Godfrey, I thought you had switched to 
anothermount. Didn't you become a 4/3rds person? I'm a newbie on this list.

Jeffery


On May 3, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> I've carried-on my Feisol CT3442 Tournament tripod several times.
> Folded and in its case, with Acratech head, they're 19x5.5" and weigh
> 4.2 lbs. I don't put It in the carry-on bag although it can fit if I
> take it out of its case.
> 
> On Sunday, May 2, 2010, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> It wasn't until I started thinking about packing that I realized that my 
>> 'sturdy' tripod won't fit in my carry one luggage.
>> 
>> I'm not going to have time to do something about it this week, but I did 
>> some quick research anyways, and the benro travel angel tripods seem pretty 
>> interesting. Does anyone have experience with them?
>> 
>> Are their quick release heads by any chance compatible with the "generic 
>> manfrotto mount"?
>> 
>> Does anyone have a smaller, reasonably sturdy tripod that does fit in carry 
>> on (under 18" folded) that they really like?  Preferably not too horribly 
>> expensive.
>> 
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Re: POTY - nature shot from Louisiana

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People who own land on the bayou get a handful of coupons or tickets for 
hunting alligator each year. They are actually tags that have to be tied onto 
any alligators taken. The quota given out is enough to curb the alligator 
population. The modus operandi (at least when I was in graduate school) is to 
hang a dead chicken above the water on a cable with a giant hook. The next 
morning, you go out on a flatboat to see who bit. Typically there is a large 
gator hanging from the hook in his mouth. The boat goes next to them, and they 
are "euthanized" with a single gunshot to the cranium.

Jeffery

On May 3, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Gritty image.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>> http://www.poyi.org/67/01/02.php
>> 
>> I didn't define what I meant by "shot".
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>> 
>> On May 2, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Bob W wrote:
>> 
>>> I found this interesting site while searching for something else. It's the
>>> Pictures of the Year from the Missouri School of Journalism, which is
>>> well-known for its encouragement of this sort of thing, so some excellent
>>> photojournalism:
>>> <http://www.poyi.org/67/winners.php>
>>> 
>>> Bob
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Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast

[Jeffery Smith]

That coffee needs some chicory in it.

Jeffery


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> http://dinerdan.posterous.com/
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> Comments, criticisms and suggestions are encouraged.
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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

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Hey, when I shook his hand, it enveloped my hand all the way up to the wrist 
watch. And he scarfed a double expresso in one gulp. He's BIG.

Jeffery

On May 3, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> On 5/3/2010 3:44 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> Good God! Godfrey's on the Pentax list!  Godfrey, I thought you had switched 
>> to anothermount. Didn't you become a 4/3rds person? I'm a newbie on this 
>> list.
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> Godfrey could lose a little weight, but I don't think he quite qualifies as 
> 4/3 of a person.
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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

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Are you currently Pentaxless?

Jeffery


On May 3, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> I've been on here since 2004ish, Jeffery. It's just ridiculous enough
> that I'm loathe to unsubscribe...
> 
> On Monday, May 3, 2010, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>> Good God! Godfrey's on the Pentax list!  Godfrey, I thought you had switched 
>> to anothermount. Didn't you become a 4/3rds person? I'm a newbie on this 
>> list.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>> 
>> On May 3, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> 
>>> I've carried-on my Feisol CT3442 Tournament tripod several times.
>>> Folded and in its case, with Acratech head, they're 19x5.5" and weigh
>>> 4.2 lbs. I don't put It in the carry-on bag although it can fit if I
>>> take it out of its case.
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, May 2, 2010, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>>> It wasn't until I started thinking about packing that I realized that my 
>>>> 'sturdy' tripod won't fit in my carry one luggage.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not going to have time to do something about it this week, but I did 
>>>> some quick research anyways, and the benro travel angel tripods seem 
>>>> pretty interesting. Does anyone have experience with them?
>>>> 
>>>> Are their quick release heads by any chance compatible with the "generic 
>>>> manfrotto mount"?
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have a smaller, reasonably sturdy tripod that does fit in 
>>>> carry on (under 18" folded) that they really like?  Preferably not too 
>>>> horribly expensive.
>>>> 
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K-x (navy) arrived

[Jeffery Smith]

My K-x just rolled in from BH. Very light, familiar controls, and the cheapo 
zoom is not bad for -$150. I'll probably try it with the Tamron 17-35 for a 
while. A bargain of a camera.

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Re: Worth selling the K10D if I'm getting the K7?

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I'd hang on to it. As you say, the resale value is not enough to make you want 
to lose it as a backup camera.

Jeffery


On May 6, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

> I'm about to have enough in my camera fund to pop for a K7.
> 
> Yes, I know there are rumors of something newer over the horizon, but that 
> will take longer than I care to wait, will cost more than I have saved up, 
> and the K-7 right now is at $843 at BHPhotovideo which is a pretty damned 
> good price.
> 
> The question is: Is there any resale value to the K10D?  I'd thought about 
> handing it down to my wife who would like occasionally to learn how to use a 
> "real" camera, but I hesitate to give her the K10D for the same reasons that 
> I want to replace it, namely: unpredictable/slow autofocus and exposure which 
> can be all over the map.  
> 
> On the other hand, if it wouldn't generate more than a couple hundred in 
> resale, then there really isn't much point in trying to sell it, is there?
> 
> What do you all think?
> 
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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

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Digital talk was verboten on the LUG for years. Then the M8 arrived, and film 
camera talk has all but vanished. With the introduction of the M9, the M8 folks 
are the wannabes. 

And you were just talking about the cost of the bodies. Take a look at the 
Leica lens prices these days. The cost of the Noctilux will make you plotz!

Jeffery


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> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Keith Whaley  wrote:
>>> Try the Leica S2 - then you'll know what unsurpassed means!
>> 
>> Yeah, well, you may be right. I'll never know.
>> I was so ignorant of it, I had to Google it! Imagine!
>> 
>> Anyhow, when I saw the price, I froze up and couldn’t move for several
>> hours.
>> 
>> I can’t possibly dispute a cost like that, or specs like that.
>> 
>> On the other hand, I haven’t actually LOOKED thru a Leica S2 VF. Perhaps
>> some day I might.
> 
> A friend of mine had one from the Leica rep to work with for a week,
> so I got a chance to play with it for a few minutes. A lovely camera
> in every way. It's about the distance from the Earth to the Oort Cloud
> above my pay grade ... but at least not as far as Alpha Centauri. An
> M9 is much more approachable, that's right around the orbit of the
> Moon. ;-)
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