[PEN-L:12230] Re: FAST TRACK ALERT; Heads Up: Son of NAFTA

1997-09-10 Thread Bill Burgess

Michael is right. I apologise for not stating whom he was quoting.


Bill Burgess  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Department of Geography, Tel: (604) 822-2663
University of British Columbia, B.C. Fax: (604) 822-6150

On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Michael Eisenscher wrote:

 Bill and List:
 
 I would appreciate it if, when you reply to an article I have posted, you
 identify the author rather than me or make clear that I am not the author
 but only the person who posted the article.  To read Bill's response, one
 would think I wrote the comments on NAFTA.  I will take full responsibilty
 for my own thoughts and comments.  I don't want to be held responsible for
 the range of views expressed in articles I repost.  The alternative is that
 I simply cease posting other people's material to the list.
 
 Thanks,
 Michael
 
 At 08:59 AM 9/9/97 -0700, Bill Burgess wrote:
 On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Michael Eisenscher quoted: 
  
  1)NAFTA has created new problems.
  
Our food supply is less safe. Due to the increase in border traffic
  in meat and produce, more food with dangerous pesticide residues or 
  bacteria is getting to our kitchens. Less than 1 percent of the imports of 
  fruit and vegetables coming from Mexico is inspected at the border.
  
The diminished inspection rates along our border has resulted in an
  unprecedented flow of illegal drugs. Along our southern border, the drugs 
  and uninspected foods are coming across in over-large, often unsafe trucks, 
  which have increased access to U.S. highways under NAFTA.
 
Instead of creating jobs, as the pro-"free trade" corporate lobbyists
  predicted, NAFTA is responsible for the loss of nearly half-a-million U.S. 
  jobs.
  
Instead of cleaning up the environment along the U.S.-Mexico border,
  water and air pollution have increased. A massive increase of industries 
  has pushed the border ecology to the breaking point.
  
 
 Blaming Mexicans for bad food and drugs is a reactionary
 approach. Blaming NAFTA for job losses implies capitalism without NAFTA
 would be just fine. Citing 'border ecology' against industry in Mexico
 is incredible hypocracy. These are yuppie Perot arguments - lets oppose
 NAFTA for **good** reasons!
 
 Bill Burgess 
 
 
 
 






[PEN-L:12227] Re: FAST TRACK ALERT; Heads Up: Son of NAFTA

1997-09-10 Thread Interhemispheric Resouce Center

Jim-

The bigger picture may change your mind about the protection of the food
supply. The U.S. produces and exports the very pesticides that you are
worried about reentering the states via Mexican food exports. If we were
really worried about protecting the U.S. instead of protecting corporate
profits we would ban their production and distribution here.

You make it sound like mexican producers are being malicious about their
food exports, aiming to harm the U.S. Unfortunatly, these practices also
impact the local populations who also eat these foods. Moreover, the
growers and workers in the fields are exposed to these dangerous pesticides
(imported from the U.S. with safety instructions written in ENGLISH) who
die in the fields from overexposure.

Agriculture is a very complicated industry, with 5 or so companies
controlling well over 1/2 of the global food industry. Many of these
operate in Mexico (Cargill, ConAgra, Continental Grain, and Monsanto, just
to name a few). So many of these injustices aren't committed by the hands
of Mexicans, but by U.S. corporations.

Protection of food supplies should be a priority of the U.S. but it isn't
NAFTA which is the cause, it is the free reign of our global corporations.

Erik Leaver
Interhemispheric Resouce Center

Jim Cullen
What are *good* reasons if not the protection of our food supply? Mexican
farmers use pesticides that are banned in the United States and their food
safety and environmental protection regulations, where they exist, are
largely unenforced (as are their labor laws). The Clinton administration
does not even want to include side agreements on labor and the environment
in the new round of "free trade" talks. Why should we let foreign producers
cut corners, compromise safety regulations and export questionable food
into the United States, allowing them to undercut domestic producers who
are regulated?






[PEN-L:12231] Slurs

1997-09-10 Thread Max B. Sawicky

I've been scolded by two persons now for my
"Buddha can you spare a dime" joke re:
Al Gore, which included implications of
Asian-stereotyping.

I sincerely regret offending any Buddhists or
Asians who may have seen this, but I also think
it is possible to be over-sensitive about this stuff
and I think this is one of those times.  I also
shudder to think about the political implications
of such a posture, since over-sensitivity tends to
backfire and legitimate truly bigoted speech
and elevate truly conservative critics of such
a position.  It reinforces the cultural isolation
of the left.

I hate to lose any friends over this, assuming I
have any to begin with, but I'd rather have a
few less friends and live in the world I'm trying
to change than dissolve into identity-politics ether.

Like Al Gore, I want to be receptive to all denominations --
tens, fifties, hundreds, etc.

Cheers,

MBS





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[PEN-L:12232] SHAIKEN: No 'Fast Track' Without Safety Measures

1997-09-10 Thread Robert Naiman

Wednesday, September 10, 1997 Los Angeles Times
  No 'Fast Track' Without Safety Measures
 Trade: Workers and the environment need guarantees up front 
that they
  will be part of any presidential deal.
  By HARLEY SHAIKEN

   President Clinton wants "fast track" 
authorization to negotiate
   trade agreements without congressional amendment. 
The
  debate promises to be fierce because the White House 
resisted
  congressional Democrats' demands that fast track 
agreements
  address labor and environmental matters in a 
meaningful way.
   What it all comes down to is whether ordinary 
Americans win or
  lose in the changing game of global trade.
   Fast track proponents such as House Speaker Newt 
Gingrich
  and much of the business community maintain that trade 
agreements
  should guarantee strong protection for patents and 
investment and
  little else. But trade agreements lacking 
environmental and labor
  protections will lead to the loss of U.S. jobs and 
wages, say
  Democratic House leaders Richard Gephardt and David 
Bonior,
  the labor movement and many environmental groups.
   The debate takes place against a paradoxical 
backdrop of rosy
  economic news on television and continued anxiety at 
the dinner
  table. The recent UPS strike underscored the 
importance
  Americans place on creating full-time jobs that pay 
well. No
  wonder. Average wages still lag behind their 1973 
peak.
   Will fast track spur prosperity or will it fuel 
economic anxiety?
  To answer this question requires puncturing two myths 
that have
  clouded the debate.
   The first myth is that stressing labor 
protections means imposing
  U.S. standards on developing countries that can ill 
afford them. Just
  the opposite is the case. Basic labor standards such 
as the right to
  join unions and bargain collectively allow workers to 
shape their
  own economic future.
   Increasingly, we have seen income polarization 
worsen as
  economic growth strengthens in countries such as 
Chile--next on the
  free trade calendar. Recent United Nations data 
indicate that real
  wages have plummeted 30% in some Latin American 
countries. By
  giving workers the ability to achieve a fairer share 
of the economic
  pie, labor rights encourage consumer markets to grow 
and
  strengthen democratic values. These rights make it 
more likely that
  we will export products to growing markets rather than 
import
  lower wage levels.
   The second myth is that the debate over fast 
track is a debate
  between free traders and protectionists. Most people 
on both sides
  of this debate agree that expanded trade is 
potentially beneficial;
  critics of fast track argue that ordinary people will 
not reap these
  benefits without enforceable labor and environmental 
standards.
   Ironically, when strong protection of U.S. 
patents and profits is
  advocated, commentators overwhelmingly refer to this 
as "free
  trade"; when critics call for far more modest 
guarantees for labor
  and the environment, this is referred to as 
"protectionism."
   Imagine going to Bill Gates and saying, "Bill, we 
think free trade
  is important, but guaranteeing intellectual property 
rights with our
  trading partners is 'shadow protectionism.' They will 
see the
  importance of protecting patents as trade expands." I 
would hazard
  a rough guess that Gates might not go along with this 
argument. Yet
  this is precisely what U.S. working families are being 
told, and
  unlike Bill Gates, they hardly have the resources to 
wait.
   We do need good protection for intellectual 
property rights in
  trade agreements and, for the very same reasons, we 
need rules of
  protection for labor and the environment.
   There is a new economic reality to trade. The 
export 

[PEN-L:12234] Re: Slurs

1997-09-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Said Max S:
  [...] over-sensitivity tends to
 backfire and legitimate truly bigoted speech
 and elevate truly conservative critics of such
 a position.  It reinforces the cultural isolation
 of the left.

Hear, hear!
 
 I hate to lose any friends over this, assuming I
 have any to begin with, but I'd rather have a
 few less friends and live in the world I'm trying
 to change than dissolve into identity-politics ether.

By now a whole cornucopia of identity politics jokes must have developed,
since satire is the best medicine for that particular runaway madness.
Really good ones should be posted here, paid for with our favorite URLs.

The sanctimonious flap over Chinagate (as I suppose it must inevitably be
called by some) I find painfully hilarious, considering the number of
evolving societies this country has turned into police state prisons, kept
pre-industrial and otherwise buggered beyond any response during the past
blood-soaked century or so.
Pray for at least two of the plagues of Egypt, so that our Bible-(t)humping
fellow citizens may learn at last the meaning of true violation.

 valis
 Occupied America

 
  - All lies have the same pedigree -







[PEN-L:12239] Re: Ruth and DSA

1997-09-10 Thread Gerald Levy

Robert Saute, CUNY Grad Center wrote:

 Glick, an outspoken lesbian and generally independent Council Person, ran
 a campaign in the lower half of Manhattan, i.e., the mostly white and
 higher income half of Manhattan.

Comrade, you need a geography lesson!  I assume you would include the
Lower East Side as being part of the "lower half of Manhattan". Is that
area "mostly white and higher income"? As for the "upper half of
Manhattan", what about those affluent white communities -- both East side
and West side -- in the 50's? ... 60's? ... 70's?... 80's's? , etc.

Manhattan, like most parts of NYC, is very culturally, socially, and
economically diverse. Simple statements like Manhattan Up =  Minority Poor
 Manhattan Down = White Wealthy do not portray the reality very well at
all.

Jerry






[PEN-L:12241] Don Imus and Kinky Friedman on Mother Teresa

1997-09-10 Thread Louis Proyect

Imus:  You were genuinely touched by the death of Princess Diana?

Kinky: I was, and I'm a little surprised that you, you know, that you
didn't seem to identify with it that heavily, and of course maybe you were
still emotionally spent from the Versacci funeral, I don't know, but ah I
personally, ah yeah, I..

Imus: ..How about Mother Teresa?

Kinky: ..I don't think Mother Teresa was trying to save souls, and Diana
was trying to help people, to do good, there's a big difference there.
Mother Teresa wanted to save souls for Jesus.

Imus: ..Well that's idiotic, I mean Mother Teresa was going around..

Kinky: ..Mother Teresa was friends with Baby Doc Duvalier..

Imus: ..oh well that's..

Kinky: ..I mean I don't want to trash this woman, I mean she died..

Imus: ..well that's idiotic, you're an idiot..

Kinky: ..I'm not running down a..

Imus: ..yes you are..

Kinky:  ..four-foot-eight dead person now..

Imus: ..well you're a..

Kinky: ..I'm just saying her interest was to save souls for Jesus, she
didn't care..

Imus: ..well Mother Teresa was picking the lepers up out of the gutter and
taking them back and fixing them up and and helping them die with some sort
of dignity..

Kinky: ..yeah if they..

Imus: ..She didn't give a damn whether they were..

McCord: ..oh absolutely she..

Imus: ..well maybe she did..

Kinky: ..yeah she did, that was the whole thing, how many souls she could
save for Jesus.  You know, when the Pope sent Mother Teresa out to Los
Angeles, he called her a few months later and to see how things were going,
and she wasn't there and he got her answering machine and it said, "Hi,
this is Terry, I'm not around the phone right now.."

Imus: ..You're just an idiot..

Kinky: "..but your call is important to me.."








[PEN-L:12242] Re: New Democrat got her ass kicked

1997-09-10 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

First, I'd like to apologize to anyone who felt offended by the title of my
missive -- the intention was to imitate the 'street- or shop-floor talk'
rather than an expression of creeping sexism.

Second, DSA membership (I'm a card-carrying member as well) does not make
anyone immune to criticism.  To my knowledge (coming mostly from net
postings), Messinger was quite tepid (to say the least) on anything that
smacked of class politics.  Moreover, according to The Nation she espoused a
controversial (again, to say the least) position advocating the arming of
NYPD thugs with hollow-point bullets (in plain English, a bullet that rips
the human body apart more effectively than regular bullets).  That why she
was endorsed by the police "unions" in the first place.

As Jim Devine aptly observed, "that says something about the state of what
Michael Harrington used to call "the democratic Left" these days." Doesn't it?

Third, while running a run off per se hardly qualifies as being kicked in
the posterior, the fact that Messinger expected to sail smoothly through the
Democratic nominations but she did not because of the last minute organizing
 pressure from NY Haitian groups -- says something about the popular
discontent with the business as usual approach espoused by Democrats.  In a
country where Republicratic political machines thoroughly dominate the
electoral process -- forcing a runoff is a victory of grassroots organizing.

regards,
wojtek sokolowski 
institute for policy studies
johns hopkins university
baltimore, md 21218
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice: (410) 516-4056
fax:   (410) 516-8233

POLITICS IS THE SHADOW CAST ON SOCIETY BY BIG BUSINESS. AND AS LONG AS THIS
IS SO, THE ATTENUATI0N OF THE SHADOW WILL NOT CHANGE THE SUBSTANCE.
- John Dewey







[PEN-L:12245] U.S. GREEN GROUPS REJECT NWF PLAN TO NEGOTIATE FAST-TRACK DEMANDS

1997-09-10 Thread Robert Naiman

U.S. GREEN GROUPS REJECT NWF PLAN TO NEGOTIATE FAST-TRACK DEMANDS

Inside U.S. Trade, Vol. 15, No. 36, September 5, 1997

U.S. GREEN GROUPS REJECT NWF PLAN TO NEGOTIATE FAST-TRACK DEMANDS

 A major U.S. environmental organization this week failed to convince 
other green groups to enter into a process of negotiating environmental 
demands with the Clinton Administration in return for their support for 
fast-track negotiating authority. Under a proposal advanced by the National 
Wildlife Federation, not all environmental demands would have had to be 
addressed in the fast-track legislation, and instead could have been 
satisfied m part by other Administration actions.
 But other U.S. environmental groups told the NWF during a Sept. 2 phone 
conference that they would not join in making specific environmental demands 
on the Administration because they do not trust it to deliver on its 
promises unless they are included in the fast-track bill itself, 
environmental sources said.
 As a result, it remains unclear whether NWF on its own will send a 
letter outlining specific steps the Administration could take within, 
alongside and apart from the fast-back legislation to gain its backing for 
the bill, an informed environmental source said. Several other groups which 
joined NWF in backing NAFTA in 1993 are now poised to join anti-NAFTA 
environmental forces in opposing fast back if, as they expect, the 
Administration declines to place environmental objectives on a par with 
other overall negotiating objectives in the fast-track legislation.
 Six environmental groups, including  NWF and the Sierra Club, set tough 
standards for the Administration to meet on fast track earlier this year in 
a letter to Vice President Al Gore, green sources noted. Among the demands 
made in that Feb. 25 letter was a call for incorporating into fast track "a 
formal `green' trade negotiating objective which signals that 
pro-environment trade policies are indeed a `must'" (Inside US Trade, Feb. 
28, p 3). Most environmental groups do not want to sway from their 
insistence that the Administration seek those concrete commitments inside a 
fast-back bill to advance environmental protection, in spite of requests 
from U.S. trade officials in recent weeks that they present more specific 
ideas. The groups do not expect the Administration to meet the yardstick 
they have advanced, and believe it would be "environmentally irresponsible" 
to negotiate narrower, specific commitments or pledges from the 
Administration in trade-related areas outside of the binding fast-track 
language itself, as NWF had been proposing.
 If the Administration pushes ahead with a fast track that does not 
measure up to the standard laid out in the letter to Gore, as they expect 
will occur, most U.S. environmental groups, including several former NAFTA 
backers such as the Defenders of Wildlife, World Wildlife Fund and the 
National Audubon Society, expect to push to defeat fast track. This would 
send the Administration a message that its failure to pro-actively implement 
a trade agenda sensitive to environmental concerns is untenable, according 
to environmental sources.
For the past few weeks, though. NWF has sought to build consensus among 
key players in the environmental community for the idea of seeking specific 
commitments from the Administration, both in the negotiating objectives 
included in the fast-track legislation as well as in trade arenas outside 
fast track.

Nearly all groups which previously supported NAFTA are disenchanted with 
the Administration's subsequent follow-up in overall U.S. trade policy, 
environmental sources said. As indications of U.S. inattention with regard 
to NAFTA, they noted the absence of Environmental Protection Agency 
Administrator Carol Browner at the last meeting of the environmental side 
accord's main policy-making body. They have also criticized the slow pace of 
the new NAFTA-related border institutions, the Border Environment 
Cooperation Council (BECC) and the North American Development Bank 
(NADBank), in approving border-cleanup projects.
The use of NAFTA investment provisions to challenge domestic 
environmental laws has also contributed to groups questioning their previous 
support, several green representatives said.

Copyright, Inside U.S. Trade, All Rights Reserved








[PEN-L:12247] Re: Ruth and DSA

1997-09-10 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

At 12:46 PM 9/10/97 -0700, you wrote:
Robert Saute, CUNY Grad Center wrote:

 Glick, an outspoken lesbian and generally independent Council Person, ran
 a campaign in the lower half of Manhattan, i.e., the mostly white and
 higher income half of Manhattan.

Comrade, you need a geography lesson!  I assume you would include the
Lower East Side as being part of the "lower half of Manhattan". Is that
area "mostly white and higher income"? As for the "upper half of
Manhattan", what about those affluent white communities -- both East side
and West side -- in the 50's? ... 60's? ... 70's?... 80's's? , etc.

But then comes Harlem  Inwood further north or "up-town" - that are mostly
Black, Hispanic  economically challenged.  From that perspective East Side
might indeed look like a "lower half" of the island.  So strictly (but not
idiomatically) speaking, Comrade Saute was correct.

I agree though that

Manhattan, like most parts of NYC, is very culturally, socially, and
economically diverse. Simple statements like Manhattan Up =  Minority Poor
 Manhattan Down = White Wealthy do not portray the reality very well at
all.

cheers,

wojtek sokolowski 
institute for policy studies
johns hopkins university
baltimore, md 21218
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice: (410) 516-4056
fax:   (410) 516-8233

POLITICS IS THE SHADOW CAST ON SOCIETY BY BIG BUSINESS. AND AS LONG AS THIS
IS SO, THE ATTENUATI0N OF THE SHADOW WILL NOT CHANGE THE SUBSTANCE.
- John Dewey







[PEN-L:12248] Re: Fire Down Below

1997-09-10 Thread Michael Perelman

I agree with Louis that Stevan Segal's movies generally have a progressive
side.  I also think that I remember Alex Cockburn describing some
environmental hanky panky of Segal's in Humboldt County in California.

By the way, one of the kids that I play basketball with took a recent
akido class from Segal, whom he found very impressive.
 -- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 916-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]





[PEN-L:12249] marcha_virtual_12_de_Septiembre (fwd)

1997-09-10 Thread Sid Shniad

 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep  9 23:35 PDT 1997
 From: juan manuel gomez gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: marcha_virtual_12_de_Septiembre
 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 01:37:27 -0500 (CDT)
 
 English version below
 
 Marcha Virtual...
 
 Como es de conocimiento de la opinion publica, una comitiva del EZLN
 marcha a la ciudad de Mexico, desde San Cristobal de las Casas, Chiapas.
 
 El arribo de los Zapatistas al Distrito Federal sera el dia 12 de
 Septiembre, por lo que convocamos a la sociedad civil internacional a
 sumarse a la marcha virtual para el dia 12 de septiembre para apoyar los
 siguientes puntos:
 
 - Cumplimiento de los acuerdos de San Andres sobre la mesa de derechos y
 cultuda indigena y
 
 - Desmilitarizacion de mexico
 
 
 Para el dia 12 de septiembre, dia en que entra la marcha zapatista a la
 ciudad de mexico, la secretaria de seguridad publica esta planeando un
 aparatoso dispositivo de seguridad en conjunto con inteligencia militar,
 por lo que se convoca tambien a los manifestantes virtuales a rechazar el
 uso de sistemas represivos que provocan un ambiente hostil que no ayuda a
 la busqueda de la paz.
 
 Alertamos a la sociedad civil internacional a que se mantenga espectante
 sobre los dospositivos de seguridad, pues por informaciones de buena
 fuente, sabemos que habra agentes vestidos de civil y armados,
 representando una amenaza a la seguridad de todos los participantes en
 esta marcha por las provocaciones que ellos pueden articular.
 
 La marcha virtual pretende ser parte de las actividades que la sociedad
 civil realiza a favor de la apertura de espacios civiles y pacificos en
 los que los mexicanos solucionen sus problemas.
 
 A todos los que se quieran sumar a esta concentracion virtual a favor de
 la paz lo pueden hacer enviando un correo electronico el dia 12 de
 septiembre durante el dia a: 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 o bien en la pagina de web
 
 http://planet.com.mx/~chiapas/marcha.html
 
 comite de bienvenida a la marcha zapatista
 
 **
 
 MARCH IN CYBERSPACE...
 
 It is public knowledge that representatives of the EZLN are marching from
 San Cristobal de las Casas, Chiapas to Me'xico City.
 
 The Zapatistas will arrive in the capital on September 12, for that
 reason, we call on "civil society" at international level, to join the
 march through cyberspace on the 12th supporting the following demands: 
 
 _fulfillment of the San Andre's Accords on indigenous rights and culture.
 
 and
 _ The demilitarization of Mexico.
 
 On september 12, date that the Zapatistas will arrive in Mexico City, the
 Ministry of Public Security is planning to launch into action security
 mechanisms combined with military intelligence, and for that reason, we
 call on those who will support the cyberspace march, to also condemn the
 repressive systems that provoke a hostile environment that does not help
 in the establishment of peace. 
 
 We request international "civil society"  to remain alert about repressive
 mechanisms, since through very reliable sources, we know there will be
 agents dressed in civilian clothing yet armed, presenting a real danger to
 all the participants in this march due to the provocations they might
 cause. 
 
 The cyberspace march hopes to be part of the activities the "civil
 society" will take on as part of opening civilian peaceful spaces where
 Mexicans can resolve their own problems. 
 
 To all who wish to join us on this march through cyberspace for peace, we
 invite to send an e-mail message on September 12th,to the following
 addresses: 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 or to the web page:
 
 http://planet.com.mx/~chiapas/marcha.html
 
 Zapatista March Welcoming Committee
 
 
 
 translated by: NAP
 






[PEN-L:12228] Re: FAST TRACK ALERT; Heads Up: Son of NAFTA

1997-09-10 Thread Interhemispheric Resouce Center

I'm reposting this ezine issue on good and bad reasons to oppose NAFTA and
Fast tract.

The Progressive Response is a publication of Foreign Policy In Focus, a
joint project of the Interhemispheric Resource Center and the Institute for
Policy Studies. 

Erik Leaver
Interhemispheric Resouce Center

THE PROGRESSIVE RESPONSE

Vol. 1, No. 4 Tom Barry, editor

***Issues of Debate: Assessing the Impact of NAFTA***


Trade Balance Tactics

Opponents of NAFTA, on both the left and the right, cite the current U.S.
trade deficit with Mexico as a sign that NAFTA has negatively impacted the
United States. It is certainly true that the U.S. now imports more goods
from Mexico than it exports to Mexico. In 1996 the United States suffered a
$16.2  billion trade deficit with Mexico, whereas in 1993 it experienced a
$1.7 billion surplus. Although those concerned about unemployment, poverty,
and low wage levels in the United States should examine the state of U.S.
trade in their attempt to find the causes of economic instability and job
losses at home, they should not adopt the dogma that a trade deficit with
Mexico means more unemployment in the United States.

When considering the U.S. trade deficit with Mexico, it should be
recognized that, while Mexico in 1995 and 1996 did export more to the
United States than it imported from this country, overall trade with Mexico
has expanded substantially since 1993. Despite the economic crisis in
Mexico, U.S. exports to Mexico have expanded by more than a third during
the first three years of NAFTA. It is not that the United States is
exporting less to Mexico than it did before, only that U.S. imports from
Mexico have increased faster than U.S. exports to Mexico.

It would be wrong to attribute the present status of U.S.-Mexico trade
balance primarily to NAFTA for the following reasons:

* Overall U.S.-Mexico trade was on the increase even before NAFTA.

* In the 1982-1991 period the U.S. experienced a persistent trade deficit
with Mexico.

* U.S. export growth to Mexico is largely related to the state of the
Mexican economy.

* The 1994 economic crisis in Mexico--in which consumption dropped
15%--helps explain why U.S. exports to Mexico did not rise as rapidly as
previously projected.

* The steady GDP increase in the U.S. has created increased demand for
goods and supplies, boosting the level of Mexican exports to the United
States.

Given that the balance of trade between Mexico and the U.S. is closely to
the state of the economy in each country, it is likely that the current
trade status will change. Consequently, arguments in favor or against NAFTA
based primarily on the size of the deficit or surplus are unlikely to stand
the test of time. Indeed, as the Mexican economy slowly recuperates, its
trade surplus is falling dramatically. The latest figures from Mexico show
that its total imports have increased by 27 percent while exports have also
increased although more slowly--but still at a healthy rate of 15 percent.
Those NAFTA opponents in the United States who point to the 1995-96 trade
deficit with Mexico may be left on shaky ground in a year or two as that
deficit turns into a surplus.

Similarly, more caution is needed in basing one's opposition to NAFTA on
reported or calculated job losses. For starters, it should be recognized
that the United States has experienced both relatively low unemployment and
economic growth since the NAFTA took effect. Opposing NAFTA on the basis of
the state of traditional economic indicators--GDP growth, unemployment,
trade balance, etc.--is a difficult argument to make, especially at this
time of comparatively good economic health in the United States.

There are two approaches to the job loss discussion that should be regarded
with caution. The first is the facile adoption of a Commerce Department's
multiplier that holds that $1 billion in increased exports creates 20,000
new U.S. jobs. By applying this multiplier to the trade deficit (which
implies that all Mexican imports take U.S. jobs and that this deficit is
due to NAFTA), the Economic Policy Institute concluded that the increase in
the U.S. trade deficit since 1993 has cost the United States 251,000 jobs.
As noted previously, this approach fails to recognize that, while the
United States may be experiencing a deficit with Mexico, its exports
continue to increase. Weintraub calls all the manipulations using
export/job multipliers "primitive arithmetic," pointing out that 1)
merchandise trade is only one part of the balance of payments and does not
include the export of U.S. services, 2) imports do not automatically
translate into job losses, 3) decreased Mexican exports would decrease
Mexico's ability to purchase U.S. products, thereby adversely affecting
U.S. jobs, 4) as a global trader, the U.S. should expect deficits with some
countries and surpluses with others, and 5) a substantial part of North
American trade is not in final products but in components of final products.

It is 

[PEN-L:12233] Re: FAST TRACK ALERT; Heads Up: Son of NAFTA

1997-09-10 Thread J Cullen

Erik,

I agree with you that the problem is global corporations, and we should ban
the production of harmful chemicals. I certainly am no defender of the
chemical producers, who also have managed to shield themselves from
liability for their exports. Nor am I a defender of the agricorporations
that threaten to monopolize the U.S. food supply. But another way to
curtail the use of dangerous pesticides -- and to interest U.S. consumers
in the cause -- is to insist that food exported to the United States is
free of pesticides and other toxic chemicals.

I don't think Mexican producers necessarily are being malicious, but they
are using chemicals whose use is illegal in the U.S. (and they also use
underpaid laborers) to produce food and export it into the United States at
lower cost than U.S. producers, who (are at least supposed to) abide by our
regulations.

We practically cannot force Mexico to protect its domestic food supply or
its farm workers, but we should assert our right to protect our own food
supply, as the European Union is trying to do. The global corporations are
working to take away that right through "free trade" agreements such as
NAFTA, GATT, MAI and the World Trade Organization. NAFTA is a symptom of
the free reign of global corporations. I don't see why we should not fight
its spread.

If large-scale Mexican producers cannot use pesticides on food for export
to the U.S., maybe they will scale it back for food destined for the
domestic market. We could prohibit the production of dangerous pesticides
in the U.S., but we can't prohibit their production elsewhere, and the
global corporations will fill that demand (which they admittedly created)
somehow.

Ultimately, the Mexican people have to demand the enforcement of food and
labor safety laws. We should support them where possible. But we should not
accept tainted food in the meantime.

-- Jim Cullen


Jim-

The bigger picture may change your mind about the protection of the food
supply. The U.S. produces and exports the very pesticides that you are
worried about reentering the states via Mexican food exports. If we were
really worried about protecting the U.S. instead of protecting corporate
profits we would ban their production and distribution here.

You make it sound like mexican producers are being malicious about their
food exports, aiming to harm the U.S. Unfortunatly, these practices also
impact the local populations who also eat these foods. Moreover, the
growers and workers in the fields are exposed to these dangerous pesticides
(imported from the U.S. with safety instructions written in ENGLISH) who
die in the fields from overexposure.

Agriculture is a very complicated industry, with 5 or so companies
controlling well over 1/2 of the global food industry. Many of these
operate in Mexico (Cargill, ConAgra, Continental Grain, and Monsanto, just
to name a few). So many of these injustices aren't committed by the hands
of Mexicans, but by U.S. corporations.

Protection of food supplies should be a priority of the U.S. but it isn't
NAFTA which is the cause, it is the free reign of our global corporations.

Erik Leaver
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[PEN-L:12246] Re: Ruth and DSA

1997-09-10 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

Robert:
Thanks for the infor on Ruth Messinger. As to

   BTW, I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think Messinger got support
from the police unions.

I got that info from The Nation, if I rember correctly -- I can verify that
when I get home.

regards,
wojtek sokolowski 
institute for policy studies
johns hopkins university
baltimore, md 21218
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- John Dewey







[PEN-L:12250] People's Summit on APEC '97 (fwd)

1997-09-10 Thread Sid Shniad

 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:50:48 -0700
 Sender: Forum on Labor in the Global Economy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Larry Kuehn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  People's Summit on APEC '97
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The People's Summit on APEC '97 has a web site at www.vcn.bc.ca/summit
 which has on it the program for the week of events and information about
 registering.
 
 The People's Summit can be reached by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Full information about the summit will be posted to this and other
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[PEN-L:12253] Re: Slurs

1997-09-10 Thread Michael Eisenscher

Max,

I know this apology is sincere, but I am bothered by your choice of words.
It is not just a matter of offending Buddhists or Asians, it is the
principle of feeding off of racial or ethnic or religious stereotyping that
is at issue.  Whites should also be offended at racism and men at sexism.
Apologizing only to members of a victimized group as if it is only their
possible offense you should be concerned about suggests that those who are
not (in this instance) Buddhists or Asians would or should not be bothered
or offended.

You depreciate your apology by suggesting that the problem isn't actually
your offensive casual humor but rather it is the super-sensitivity or their
lack of humor of those who express their displeasure.  But this is not a
matter of being PC.  We live in a society in which ethnic and racial
stereotyping, even in jest when no offense is intended, lends itself to
perpetuating the divisions between people and feeds a climate in which those
do who act with malice and hatred feel emboldened to express their venomous
views and to ACT on them.  The consequences may be only hurt feelings, but
in too many circumstances they are far more serious.  I don't see how we
fight "truly bigoted speech" or behavior rooted in hate by playing around
the edges of that bigotry.  

I don't believe the choice is between "identity politics" and your ability
to be popular or you access to the world you want to change.  Fighting
bigotry is not like fighting forest fires.  You can't reduce the amount of
prejudice in the world by setting backfires that feed on prejudice.  I don't
think the left breaks out of its cultural isolation by pandering to the
various prejudices found in the wider population.  How can this build unity
and break down stereotypes that are exploited by capitalism to keep us divided?

I hope that it would be a mark of friendship, comradeship and respect, not
ridicule or condemnation, if someone who cares about the same things you do
brings an offensive remark to your attention.  

In solidarity,
Michael

At 09:12 AM 9/10/97 -0700, Max B. Sawicky wrote:
I've been scolded by two persons now for my
"Buddha can you spare a dime" joke re:
Al Gore, which included implications of
Asian-stereotyping.

I sincerely regret offending any Buddhists or
Asians who may have seen this, but I also think
it is possible to be over-sensitive about this stuff
and I think this is one of those times.  I also
shudder to think about the political implications
of such a posture, since over-sensitivity tends to
backfire and legitimate truly bigoted speech
and elevate truly conservative critics of such
a position.  It reinforces the cultural isolation
of the left.

I hate to lose any friends over this, assuming I
have any to begin with, but I'd rather have a
few less friends and live in the world I'm trying
to change than dissolve into identity-politics ether.

Like Al Gore, I want to be receptive to all denominations --
tens, fifties, hundreds, etc.

Cheers,

MBS





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[PEN-L:12252] Re: Fire Down Below

1997-09-10 Thread Harry M. Cleaver

Louis:
I read somewhere --and I don't know whether it is true or not-- that
Seagal demanded the right to say anything he wanted at the end of his
Alaska film, with no producer censorship, as a condition for making the
flick. As you probably know, he used those ten minutes to denounce
multinational corporate destruction of the environment. I haven't seen his
latest, but look forward to it. I went to see  "Above the Law" with my
brother who is a black belt, "this guy has some GREAT moves", he said, and
we staggered out in a state of shock at the powerful denunciation of
CIA drug trafficing in Central American in support of the Contras --AND
the explicit connection to their earlier actions in Indochina. It was 
a little like watching a revealing documentary on what was going on
at the time. While he might do the job better with some advice from us :-)
there is no doubt that he is reaching one hell of a lot of people with at
least part of what they need to hear and see.

Harry

On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Louis Proyect wrote:

 There is a genuine integrity to Steven Seagal's body of work. While the
 critical establishment is finally giving Jackie Chan the acclaim that he
 richly deserves as martial artist/film star, isn't it about time that we
 recognize Seagal for the politically progressive trail-blazer that he is?
 Make way, Oliver Stone, for a genuine rebel--one who is at home delivering
 class-struggle speeches or karate kicks to a villain's teeth.
 
 In his latest film "Fire Down Below," Seagal plays Jack Taggart, an EPA
 inspector who goes undercover in rural Kentucky to find out who has killed
 his partner. His partner was investigating toxic spills. His cover is as a
 volunteer church worker who repairs the porches of congregation members.
 The pastor is played by Levon Helm, formerly of the band called The Band.
 
 It turns out that a most reactionary member of the bourgeoisie, Orin Hanner
 (Kris Kristofferson), is being paid big money to hide toxic waste in the
 hills and waters of the beautiful Appalachian countryside, and the
 chemicals are killing fish and making children sick. Orin Jr.(Brad Hunt)
 runs the day-to-day operations in the hills while his dad sits in the
 corporate headquarters like an Appalachian version of the rotten
 businessman J.R. Ewing on the old TV show "Dallas". Now in his sixties,
 Kristofferson has adapted well to villainous roles. He was outstanding as
 the sadist cop in John Sayles "Lone Star" and equals that performance here. 
 
 Orin Jr. sends out one goon squad after another to kill Seagal, but he
 always manages to defeat them with well-placed kicks and punches. The charm
 of watching Seagal in action has a lot to do with his growing middle-aged
 paunch which many cinema fans can identify with. Seagal wears long coats
 throughout the film which tastefully disguise his love handles, but you can
 discern their contour if you look carefully.
 
 Not only does he have lethal extremities, he is also cunning and lethal
 behind the wheel. One of Hanner's thugs tries to run him off the road, but
 Seagal dodges him at the edge of a cliff and the would-be killer drives to
 his death. This is an action hero par excellence: a combination of the
 Roadrunner, Bruce Lee and--best of all--Big Bill Heywood.
 
 As soon as he returns to town after the car chase, he walks into the middle
 of a church service and mounts the pulpit. He tells the congregation that
 there are rich people who are trying to poison them. Their profits come at
 the expense of the town's children or the beauty of the environment. It is
 time to stand up to these greedy businessmen and fight for justice, says
 Seagal with a steely glint in his eye.
 
 Highly recommended: Five hammer-and-sickles
 
 
 Louis Proyect
 
 


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[PEN-L:12251] WWW at UCLA

1997-09-10 Thread Sid Shniad

The New York Times  September 3, 1997

AT UCLA, MIXED REACTION 
TO WEB-BASED COURSES

By Steven R. Knowlton

When students at the University of California at Los Angeles call up the 
World Wide Web home page for a class on 20th-century American literature 
this school year, they will have a wealth of choices, including, the professor 
hopes, clicking on an audio button to hear an aria from an opera mentioned 
in a Willa Cather novel. But students taking another professor's course on 
Milton will find a bare-bones Web page, not much more than the course title 
and a reading list. 

Professor Thomas Wortham, the chairman of the English department who is 
planning the more elaborate page, and Jonathan F.S. Post, a former chairman 
of the department whose page is being created without his input, are repre-
sentative of the reactions to UCLA's announcement in mid-July that it will 
make home pages available for every course in the College of Letters and 
Science by Sept. 25, the start of the fall term. 

At the very least, that means the university will provide students with a plain-
text syllabus and an online chat room -- a cyberspace spot where students 
can talk to one another in some 1,000 courses. At its most elaborate, the 
Web pages may use graphics and audio and video snippets to dress up lecture 
notes and provide links to take students to other relevant Web sites. Profes-
sors can choose to participate or not in creating and maintaining their class 
pages. 

Although UCLA is believed to be the first major campus in the country to 
require home pages for so many courses, its action represents a growing 
trend in higher education to integrate the Web and the more encompassing 
Internet into class work. 

But while many faculty members are cruising into cyberspace with enthusi-
asm, confident that they can make learning more rewarding, others are more 
reluctant to trade in conventional teaching tools for what they and other 
critics fear is just the latest fad in higher education. 

Wortham said he was looking forward to offering an enhanced Web page. He 
could round up the tape players, slide projectors and other academic hard-
ware "and lug them into class," he said, but he acknowledged that "too often 
that does not happen." 

Post, on the other hand, said he did not mind that the university was putting 
his syllabus on the Web because "my syllabus is not my course." But he 
added, "The greater concern that most of us would feel is that technology 
will be driving the teaching." 

He also said he feared that "funding will be going in that direction and away 
from the classroom." 

Much of the impetus for Web-based learning is financial. Many college ad-
ministrators regard Web pages as effective marketing and recruiting tools. 

In May, a new college guide ranking the 100 most-wired campuses was pub-
lished by Yahoo, a popular Internet search service. In that survey, UCLA did 
not fare well against many other California campuses because it had relatively 
few courses with Web pages. 

Wortham said UCLA's decision to build Web pages for all its courses had 
been made before the Yahoo ranking and had been driven, in part, by the 
need to justify a new computer fee that students are paying this fall.

"The idea was if students could see that the money was being utilized in the 
classroom, maybe they would go for it," the professor said. 

The fee -- $10 for each humanities course and $14 for each science course -- 
was discussed in the last academic year, but many students objected, saying 
that their courses did not have Web pages and that they should not have to 
pay for services they were not receiving. 

Web pages are also regarded as weapons with which departments can defend 
their own domain and budgets by attracting students to fill courses. 

"Departments are increasingly required to pay for themselves," Post said. 
"Web pages seem to be a way of making a department appear to be sort of 
with it instead of in the dark ages." 

Perhaps the most controversial aspect of the push toward more Web-based 
learning, some educators say, is that computer technology is beginning to 
replace, rather than merely enhance, some of what professors do in the class-
room. 

Although UCLA is not planning major changes in its teaching strategies, 
other colleges and universities are. 

The president of Northwestern University, Henry S. Bienen, said he expected 
teaching on the Web to soon replace at least some of the lecture components 
of basic introductory courses. That would, theoretically at least, free up pro-
fessors to conduct more small-group sessions, he said. 

At the University of Oregon, the provost, John T. Moseley, said he was 
looking forward to turning the conventional format of three lectures a week 
into perhaps a single lecture plus Web lectures and discussions, as well as 
other teaching sessions in informal settings. Such changes could come in the 

[PEN-L:12244] Re: Ruth and DSA

1997-09-10 Thread Robert Saute, CUNY Grad Center


Comrade Levy makes the important point that aggregates can be
misleading, that shorthand can be misunderstood.  He is absolutely correct
that the Lower East Side is NOT mostly white and higher income.  Nor for
that matter is Chinatown white and high income.

My larger point was that Glick gave up on the largely minority and
poor sections of Manhattan that make up the "upper half" of the island
probably because she saw them as uninterested in her largely social issue
campaign.  The bohemian character of much of the Lower East Side makes
it an interesting case.  I don't know how much campaigning she did (or
support that she received) there, but did she campaign against poverty and
racism there?  (Not a rhetorical question, I really don't know.)

Regarding geography.  Comrade Levy, only an overheated polemicist
or the cartographically impaired would place the 50s, 60s in the "upper
half" of Manhattan.  Only a sophist would include 70s and 80s in the
northern half of the borough.  Of course, I've met more than one Lower
East Sider who prided him/herself on not venturing north of 14th street.

From the not very hip portion of Upstate Manhattan I remain,


Robert Saute
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Gerald Levy wrote:

 Robert Saute, CUNY Grad Center wrote:
 
  Glick, an outspoken lesbian and generally independent Council Person, ran
  a campaign in the lower half of Manhattan, i.e., the mostly white and
  higher income half of Manhattan.
 
 Comrade, you need a geography lesson!  I assume you would include the
 Lower East Side as being part of the "lower half of Manhattan". Is that
 area "mostly white and higher income"? As for the "upper half of
 Manhattan", what about those affluent white communities -- both East side
 and West side -- in the 50's? ... 60's? ... 70's?... 80's's? , etc.
 
 Manhattan, like most parts of NYC, is very culturally, socially, and
 economically diverse. Simple statements like Manhattan Up =  Minority Poor
  Manhattan Down = White Wealthy do not portray the reality very well at
 all.
 
 Jerry
 
 









[PEN-L:12243] Fire Down Below

1997-09-10 Thread Louis Proyect

There is a genuine integrity to Steven Seagal's body of work. While the
critical establishment is finally giving Jackie Chan the acclaim that he
richly deserves as martial artist/film star, isn't it about time that we
recognize Seagal for the politically progressive trail-blazer that he is?
Make way, Oliver Stone, for a genuine rebel--one who is at home delivering
class-struggle speeches or karate kicks to a villain's teeth.

In his latest film "Fire Down Below," Seagal plays Jack Taggart, an EPA
inspector who goes undercover in rural Kentucky to find out who has killed
his partner. His partner was investigating toxic spills. His cover is as a
volunteer church worker who repairs the porches of congregation members.
The pastor is played by Levon Helm, formerly of the band called The Band.

It turns out that a most reactionary member of the bourgeoisie, Orin Hanner
(Kris Kristofferson), is being paid big money to hide toxic waste in the
hills and waters of the beautiful Appalachian countryside, and the
chemicals are killing fish and making children sick. Orin Jr.(Brad Hunt)
runs the day-to-day operations in the hills while his dad sits in the
corporate headquarters like an Appalachian version of the rotten
businessman J.R. Ewing on the old TV show "Dallas". Now in his sixties,
Kristofferson has adapted well to villainous roles. He was outstanding as
the sadist cop in John Sayles "Lone Star" and equals that performance here. 

Orin Jr. sends out one goon squad after another to kill Seagal, but he
always manages to defeat them with well-placed kicks and punches. The charm
of watching Seagal in action has a lot to do with his growing middle-aged
paunch which many cinema fans can identify with. Seagal wears long coats
throughout the film which tastefully disguise his love handles, but you can
discern their contour if you look carefully.

Not only does he have lethal extremities, he is also cunning and lethal
behind the wheel. One of Hanner's thugs tries to run him off the road, but
Seagal dodges him at the edge of a cliff and the would-be killer drives to
his death. This is an action hero par excellence: a combination of the
Roadrunner, Bruce Lee and--best of all--Big Bill Heywood.

As soon as he returns to town after the car chase, he walks into the middle
of a church service and mounts the pulpit. He tells the congregation that
there are rich people who are trying to poison them. Their profits come at
the expense of the town's children or the beauty of the environment. It is
time to stand up to these greedy businessmen and fight for justice, says
Seagal with a steely glint in his eye.

Highly recommended: Five hammer-and-sickles


Louis Proyect







[PEN-L:12240] Lo lo lo lo Lola . . .

1997-09-10 Thread Max B. Sawicky


 psychotherapy/radical politics run by one Fred Newman. Their presidential
 candidate last go-round was Lola Fulani who does have some following in the

That would be Lenora, BTW, though I much prefer Lola,
or for that matter Lola Folana.  Must be the borscht in
your veins, or maybe some flashback to The Kinks.

As testament to Lenora-Lola's erratic nature, she took
some of her folks into the Perot's Reform Party and
may still be there, for all I know.

I agree with the rest of your post.

MBS



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[PEN-L:12238] Ruth and DSA

1997-09-10 Thread Robert Saute, CUNY Grad Center

Ruth Messinger, indeed, used to be a member of the Democratic
Socialists of America.  She remains close enough to DSA to attend their
fundraisers, but she quit DSA, and here I think she has been explicit
about this, to distance herself from the Left.  The New York local
endorsed her campaign, although there were moves afoot to endorse Sharpton
by some and no one by others.  Despite its endorsement, the local did
nothing organizationally. The lack of action may have resulted from
Messinger's absense of interest in mobilizing voters.  Or, perhaps, DSAers
may have been turned off by her attack on City workers (not cops).  She
decided in what seems like a patently opportunistic ploy for NY Times
coverage to solve the problem of funding public education by increasing
the work week of municipal employees and jettisoning the sabaticals of
Board of Ed. hires. 

DSAers were not the only ones to lose interest in Borough
President Messinger.  Her core constituency of left-leaning liberals
did not vote.  Hopes for Messinger had at one time been quite high because
in part she had the best network of grassroots supporters in the City.
Over the years she had built up a fairly impressive cadre of campaigners,
but many of them abandoned ship when they felt that she wasn't interested
in their support.  Her office staff has been demoralized for a long time,
and it is hard to believe her campaign staff feels anything but
devastated.

Ruth moved to the center to capture more votes, and I'm sure she
had the polling data to tell her it was the politically "intelligent"
thing to do.  Unfortunately for her, she became a hollow candidate winning
the hollow vote, I guess.

A similar phenomenon occurred with Deborah Glick who was soundly
beaten in the race for Manhattan Borough President by C. Virginia Fields.
Glick, an outspoken lesbian and generally independent Council Person, ran
a campaign in the lower half of Manhattan, i.e., the mostly white and
higher income half of Manhattan.  Glick was probably the most left of the
candidates for Borough President, but she made the "rational" decision to
spend her resources in the socially liberal-friendly half of Manhattan.
Glick's problem was not so much that she moved to the center but that she
gave up on a better part of the City.

BTW, I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think Messinger got support
from the police unions.



Robert Saute
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[PEN-L:12236] Re: New Democrat got her ass kicked

1997-09-10 Thread Louis Proyect

BTW, as a non-Noo Yawker, I don't know much at all about Al Sharpton. But
his politics sure looks bad. I bet if he beat Giuliani he wouldn't be
allowed to run the city. Is Big MAC or a similar organization still running
the show? 

in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The Sharpton vote is interesting for what it says about the rising
militancy of the black population. Sharpton is a demagogue but his speeches
are much more radical than anything coming from the Messinger camp. Not
only did Messinger have ties to the DSA, so did Dinkins. The problem is
that these ties meant very little. Both Dinkins and Messinger are beholden
to Wall Street Banks, real estate and law firms.

Sharpton used to run as the candidate of the New Alliance Party, a
psychotherapy/radical politics run by one Fred Newman. Their presidential
candidate last go-round was Lola Fulani who does have some following in the
black community. Sharpton was a paid informant for the FBI in the 1970s and
does come across as a self-promoter, a left-wing version of Don King.
Sharpton has never built a left-wing organization but preaches at an
assembly hall once a week that is closed to the white press.

The explanation for Sharpton should be obvious. He is the beneficiary of a
vacuum of leadership in the black community. Some black militants were
murdered and others were co-opted. In his grotesque manner, Sharpton in
some ways represents the best of what black leadership in New York amounts
to nowadays. Whenever there is an egregious outbreak of police brutality,
you can count on him to call for a demonstration and indictment of the
cops. He has been in the forefront of the struggle around Abner Louima.

Louis Proyect






[PEN-L:12235] New Democrat got her ass kicked

1997-09-10 Thread James Devine

Even though I think that "Buddha can you spare a dime?" is funny and NOT
impolite (a.k.a. "politically incorrect"), I do not like the advocacy of
violence against women which is implicit in the above title. (I do not
think that Wojtek was advocating such violence, BTW, but rather that he
wasn't thinking seriously about the title he gave his missive.)

(BTW, All money-changers should be driven out of all temples, Buddhist or
otherwise!)

Concerning the fact that Ruth Messinger did not get a sufficient plurality
in the NYC Democratic Primary to avoid a run-off against Al (the Rev.)
Sharpton, Wojtek writes: 
I just heard on the news that the New York City's New Democrat candidate
against Giulliani (what's her face?) got her ass kicked and failed to win
her party's nomination. ... As for New Democrats, they also represent white
suburbanite and corporate only -- yet they hypocritically pretend to
represent the poor, disadvantaged, etc. ... 

Being forced to run in a run-off isn't exactly being kicked in the butt.
More importantly, if I remember correctly, Ruth Messinger was endorsed and
supported by the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee, which later
took over the New American Movement and became the Democratic Socialists of
America. She might have even been a member. Is she a member of DSA? Was she
ever, or was she simply endorsed by that group? Is she still endorsed by DSA? 

If she's a New Democrat and endorsed by DSA (or even a member), that says
something about the state of what Michael Harrington used to call "the
democratic Left" these days. 

BTW, as a non-Noo Yawker, I don't know much at all about Al Sharpton. But
his politics sure looks bad. I bet if he beat Giuliani he wouldn't be
allowed to run the city. Is Big MAC or a similar organization still running
the show? 

in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[PEN-L:12226] New Democrat got her ass kicked

1997-09-10 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

I just heard on the news that the New York City's New Democrat candidate
against Giulliani (what's her face?) got her ass kicked and failed to win
her party's nomination.  The stumbling block was that she was endorsed by
the police "unions" and that support backfired after the recent revelations
of NYPD use of torture.  

That sounds like music to my ears, because while I disagree with Republican
politics, I cannot blame them for hypocrisy -- they do not hide that they
represent white suburbanite and corporate interests only.  As for New
Democrats, they also represent white suburbanite and corporate only -- yet
they hypocritically pretend to represent the poor, disadvantaged, etc.  That
makes them more dangerous than GOP, because they sing the song their
constituents want to hear to get elected, and then pull a clinton.

It looks like for more years of Giulliani -- which might not be a bad thing
after all, beacuse it will be a lot easier to mobilise people against that
cockroach than against a "bleeding heart" New Democrat.

Any comments?

wojtek sokolowski 
institute for policy studies
johns hopkins university
baltimore, md 21218
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[PEN-L:12229] FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-09-10 Thread Richardson_D

BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 1997

RELEASED TODAY:  The revised seasonally adjusted annual rate of
productivity change in the second quarter of 1997 was 2.7 percent in
both the business and the nonfarm business sectors.  In both sectors,
productivity growth was stronger than in the first quarter of 1997
The second-quarter productivity increases were greater than first
reported because output was revised upward and the increases in hours
were revised down 

Looking at its own data as well as studies by private economists, BLS
found in a new report that the choice of a college major and the quality
of the college itself appear to strongly influence a worker's lifetime
earnings.  The links between education, employment, and earnings have
grown stronger in the last 15 or 20 years, BLS said.  In its "Report on
the American Workforce," BLS offers analyses on three major labor market
issues:  education and work; comparisons of compensation and prices in
different regions and metropolitan areas; and employer-provided pension
plans (Daily Labor Report, page A-6).

The number of job cuts announced by businesses declined in August and
should hit a decade low in 1997, according to a report by Challenger,
Gray  Christmas, Inc., an outplacement firm that tracks job-cut
announcements (Daily Labor Report, page A-9).

Richard Harwood, writing on the op. ed. page of The Washington Post,
points out that -- although the want-ad pages of the Post show that the
job market is tight, the Wall Street Journal points out that companies
are raiding one another for workers, and the New York Times reports that
blue-collar jobs expanded to the greatest number in history --
Demographics magazine notes that, "One in five American men doesn't earn
enough to lift a family of four out of poverty "  Harwood says,
"There's work to be had -- and an awful lot of people who aren't being
educated to do it" Roughly 80 percent of the jobs in the American
economy don't require a four-year college degree, and that situation is
not expected to change significantly anytime soon.  But many of these
jobs do require basic skills that vast numbers of high school students
are not getting.  These skills -- including math and reading
comprehension, oral communication and word processing on computers --
can be taught in high school, Ivy League scholars Richard Murnane and
Frank Levy estimate.  They would add enough value to a high school
diploma to command a wage of $30,000 a year or more 

USA Today's "Economic Indicators" graph (page 3B) projects that producer
prices for August, to be released Sept. 12, will be up 0.3 percent, in
contrast to a minus 0.1 percent for July.  The consumer price index for
August, to be released Sept. 16, will increase 0.3 percent compared with
0.2 percent for July.

DUE OUT TOMORROW:  Mass Layoffs in June 1997