Racism and Fascism in Austria

2000-04-08 Thread Chris Burford

Concrete evidence of racism and fascist trends in Austria -

In view of the debate about Haider, I think the list should consider the
facts and the arguments in the below.

It was forwarded to me by the National Civil Rights Movement (started
last year in Britain as a result of a number of cases of police
acquiescence in racism). It is from 


National Coalition of Anti-Deportation
Campaigns (NCADC)

Web site: 
http://www.ncadc.demon.co.uk/

Quoting Amnesty International, Austria.



Chris Burford
London


 The report covers
incidents that happened before the current
government was sworn in. But human rights organisations fear that
the
rise of the far right has given expression to passive racism in
Austria.

Rampant racism against Immigration detainees
by Austrian police exposed

 Black detainees kicked, beaten and punched, says
Amnesty

 Kate Connolly in Vienna:  Saturday March
25, 2000

 Austrian police have been accused of seriously
flouting human
rights, abusing their powers and using brutal language and 
behaviour
in their treatment of foreigners, in a report released by Amnesty
International in Vienna yesterday.

    The damning account said a strong inbuilt racism
existed within
the police force.

 The report was
published on the same day as a 31-year-old police
officer appeared before a Vienna court charged with grevious bodily
harm over the beating of a young black African man.

 The policeman is alleged to have hit the
18-year-old around the
genitals with a baseball bat before arresting him in
September last year on suspicion of drugs possession. 

 The Amnesty report
said detainees were often denied access to
lawyers, doctors or friends, and foreigners, particularly black
Africans, had been beaten unconscious for not showing police their
papers.

   The focal point of Amnesty's
allegations is the case of Marcus
Omofuma, a Nigerian asylum seeker, 25, who died while being 
deported
from Vienna to Sofia in May last year. He was bound and gagged
"like
a mummy stuck to the seat" by the three officers who accompanied
him,
and arrived unconscious in Sofia where doctors pronounced him dead.
No charges were brought.

 "Investigations into police ill-treatment
have been slow, lacking
in thoroughness and often inconclusive," said Mr Patzelt. Often,
when
complaints were made, the police brought counter-charges and more
often than not won.

 Illegal raids on
asylum homes were also being regularly reported,
he said, citing an incident which occurred after the report was
completed, in January this year, when police raided the home of
black
Africans in Traiskirchen.

 "One hundred and forty police stormed the
home looking for drugs
but nothing was found," he said. "They then carried out painful
anal
searches, simply because there was some suspicion that there might
be
drugs there. All you need is a black face to be considered
suspicious." 

    In what is being seen as a
timely move, the EU has chosen to base
its new racism monitoring centre in Vienna. "It wasn't placed
here
because Austria is seen as being racist," insisted EU spokesman
John
Kellock, "but if it steps out of line, we'll haul them over 
the
coals."

 The Freedom party and People's party are the
only government
parties in the EU not to have signed up to the EU's charter against
racism because their policies contravene some of the
clauses.

    Fears that intolerance is
on the rise in Austria increased this
week when the head of the evangelical church, Bishop Gertraud 
Knoll,
said she was going into hiding with her three children because she
could no longer stand the violent and sexually abusive letters
delivered to her home in Burgenland.

 Bishop Knoll, 41, has been a staunch critic of
the Freedom party
and its racist politics for years.

Amnesty International Press Release  24
March 2000

In November 1998, Dr C, a black Austrian
citizen, was stopped by
police after reversing his car into a one-way street and was asked
"Why are you driving the wrong way, Nigger?" The police
officers reportedly pushed Dr C into a bush of thorns, beat him
unconscious, handcuffed him and continued to beat him after he
regained consciousness. Dr C's wife claims one of the police
officers shouted to his colleague; "Make him lame until he can
no
longer walk". After being arrested, Dr C was so badly beaten, he
was
taken to hospital where he spent 11 days recovering.

Police officers entered a Chinese restaurant
in July 1998 and
demanded identity papers from employees. The cook, a Chinese
national, was reportedly dragged out of the kitchen, beaten and put
into a headlock for not producing his papers. 

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Re: Re: the expression "political economy"

2000-04-08 Thread Barnet Wagman

The term 'international political economy' is/was used by international
political scientists like Susan Strange - their use of the the term is
almost entirely unrelated to its use by Smith or Marxians or Buchanan
(in case things weren't confusing enought).

Barnet Wagman

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Re: Re: the expression "political economy"

2000-04-08 Thread Michael Perelman

Usually today people use the term when they are writing are the margins of
neo-classical economics (that includes Buchanan).

Barnet Wagman wrote:

> The term 'international political economy' is/was used by international
> political scientists like Susan Strange - their use of the the term is
> almost entirely unrelated to its use by Smith or Marxians or Buchanan
> (in case things weren't confusing enought).
>
> Barnet Wagman
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Re: Re: Re: the expression "political economy"

2000-04-08 Thread Rod Hay

That is not the case in Canada. Here it is more usually associated with the
left nationalist.

Rod

Michael Perelman wrote:

> Usually today people use the term when they are writing are the margins of
> neo-classical economics (that includes Buchanan).
>
> Barnet Wagman wrote:
>
> > The term 'international political economy' is/was used by international
> > political scientists like Susan Strange - their use of the the term is
> > almost entirely unrelated to its use by Smith or Marxians or Buchanan
> > (in case things weren't confusing enought).
> >
> > Barnet Wagman
> >
> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
> Michael Perelman
> Economics Department
> California State University
> Chico, CA 95929
>
> Tel. 530-898-5321
> E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
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Re: Re: the expression "political economy"

2000-04-08 Thread Ted Winslow

Michael Perelman quoted the following passage from Marshall's *The Economics
of Industry*:
 
>The Economics of Industry (1879), p. 2: "The
> nation used to be called 'the Body Politic'.  So long as this phrase was in
> common use, men thought of the interests of the whole nation when they used
> the
> word 'Political'; and then 'Political Economy' served well enough as a name
> for
> the science.  But now 'political interests' generally mean the interests of
> only
> some part or parts of the nation; so it seems best to drop the name 'Political
> Economy', and to speak simply of {italics} ”Economic Science•, or more
> shortly,
> ”Economics•".

As this passage itself indicates, Marshall did not intend by this change to
give "economics" the meaning it currently has.  His intent was to retain the
older meaning of "political economy" as a "moral science".

Marshall's relation to "neo-classical economics" understood as "Benthamite
economics" is very complex.

He was a very serious and perceptive student not only of Marx but of Kant
and Hegel. Hegel, for instance, is mentioned as one of the two main
influences (the other is Herbert Spencer) on the "substance of the views
expressed in" the *Principles* (Preface).  In his essay on Marshall, Keynes
quotes him as having once said of Kant "'Kant my guide the only man I ever
worshipped" and as having pointed to Hegel's *Philosophy of History* as a
key influence "finally determining the course of his life".  (Keynes,
Collected Writings, vol. X, p. 172)

These influences show up in a number of essential ways in Marshall's
economics.  For instance, Marshall takes a "dialectical" view of social
interdependence.  This underpins his conception of "caeteris paribus" and
his use of the term "normal".

Keynes points to this In his essay (see particularly pp. 185-7 and 196-7)
It was, he claims, the basis of Marshall's distinction "between the objects
and methods of the mathematical sciences and those of the social sciences"
(p. 197) and constituted "the profundity of his [Marshall's] insight into
the true character of his subject in its highest and most useful
developments" (p. 188).

Another illustration of this influence, an illustration connected to this
first one, is Marshall's Marxist treatment of labour in capitalism as
"alienated" labour and his view that those who do it would be able, if the
conditions of their labour were appropriately transformed, to develop into
what Marx (following Hegel) called "universally developed individuals".
These ideas are rooted in a theory of ethics (taken over from Kant and
Hegel) which treats values as objective and knowable and, on this basis,
treats the human "will" as potentially, to use Hegel's language, a "will
proper" and a "universal will" i.e. as a will whose content, unlike the
content of other animal wills, in ultimately fully open to
self-determination by reason. (A "will proper" is a will fully open to
self-determination; a "universal will" is a will whose content derives
entirely from knowledge of the good reached through reason.)

Here are passages in which Marshall treats capitalist labour as alienated
labour:

"man ought to work in order to live, his life, physical, moral, and mental,
should be strengthened and made full by his work.  But what if his inner
life be almost crushed by his work?  Is there not then suggested a terrible
truth by the term working man, when applied to the unskilled labourer ­ a
man whose occupation tends in a greater or less degree to make him live for
little save for that work that is a burden to bear?"  (Marshall, *Memorials
of Alfred Marshall*, p. 108)

"in the world's history there has been no waste product, so much more
important than all others, that it has a right to be called THE Waste
Product.  It is the higher abilities of many of the working classes; the
latent, the undeveloped, the choked-up and wasted faculties for higher work,
that for lack of opportunity have come to nothing." (*Memorials*, p. 229)

In another essay, "The Future of the Working Classes" (Memorials pp.
109-118), he sets out the conditions which would be required for all persons
to develop into "gentlemen" (his term for Marx's idea of the "universally
developed individual" - a term suggestive of the fact that, in contrast to
Marx, Marshall's version of the idea was not free of sexism).

The reason Marshall gives for the change of name from "political economy" to
"economics" is consistent with all this and indicates as well his wish to
retain the meaning which Aristotle had given to the rational form of
acquisition.  Economics was to be understood as a "moral science" concerned
with the "health" of "the body Politic".  Its object was to insure the
provision to all members of the community of the material means of a "good
life" and, as part of this, to investigate how to organize this provision
(organize what Marx calls the "realm of necessity") so as to make the work
required to accomplish it compatible with the ultim

Re: Re: Re: the expression "political economy"

2000-04-08 Thread Jim Devine

At 10:34 AM 04/08/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>The term 'international political economy' is/was used by international
>political scientists like Susan Strange - their use of the the term is
>almost entirely unrelated to its use by Smith or Marxians or Buchanan
>(in case things weren't confusing enought).

how do they use the term?

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://liberalarts.lmu.edu/~JDevine/JDevine.html




Re: Marshall

2000-04-08 Thread Jim Devine

a very interesting post!

Ted Winslow writes: > These influences show up in a number of essential 
ways in Marshall's economics.  For instance, Marshall takes a "dialectical" 
view of social interdependence.  This underpins his conception of "caeteris 
paribus" and his use of the term "normal".<

I don't get how concepts like "ceteris paribus" and "normal" jibe with 
dialectics, which involve a process in which ceteris is never paribus and 
today's "normal" is always different from yesterday's. How does equilibrium 
(which seems a central concept to Marshall) fit in with dialectics?

later on: >In another essay, "The Future of the Working Classes" (Memorials 
pp. 109-118), he sets out the conditions which would be required for all 
persons to develop into "gentlemen" (his term for Marx's idea of the 
"universally developed individual" - a term suggestive of the fact that, in 
contrast to Marx, Marshall's version of the idea was not free of sexism).<

also notice that Marshall implies that disalienation involves workers 
becoming like a gentleperson, while Marx would see the gentry as themselves 
alienated (in a different way than workers, natch).

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Re: Re: Re: the expression "political economy" (fwd)

2000-04-08 Thread md7148


>Usually today people use the term when they are writing are the margins
>of
>neo-classical economics (that includes Buchanan).

>Barnet Wagman wrote:

>> The term 'international political economy' is/was used by international
>> political scientists like Susan Strange - their use of the the term is
>> almost entirely unrelated to its use by Smith or Marxians or Buchanan
>> (in case things weren't confusing enought).
>
>> Barnet Wagman
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Barnet, I agree, but I will make some general comments..

first, there is no general consensus among political or social scientists
(broadly defined) about what "international political economy" means to
begin with. Just as there are "international political scientists" such as
Susan Strange, there are "international economists" such as Paul Krugman,
so I don't see the point (though, I would say, Krugman is much worse than
Strange, may be because of my diciplinary bias). Conceptual problems exist
in every dicipline of social science, including economics, not only in
political science. At a first glance, I should say, we have more "critical
theorists" in political science, sociology, anthropology etc..than people
have in economics. Economics is relatively a more conservative social 
science when it comes to discussion of "certain" issues.

second, you are talking about how Susan Strange's use of "international
political economy" is unrelated to its use by Smith, Buchanan etc... This
is true and normal (by virtue of historical facts) because neither Smith
nor Buchanan attempted to formulate an "exact" definition of this concept.
I don't remember Smith writing in 17th century Britain, at a mercantalist
capitalist period, and still mentioning the global dimensions of
capitalism in some systemic way, that some of us do in IPE "today". What
he meant was still packed in classical economic terms. Differently, IPE is
relatively a new dicipline that has aimed to abridge the gap between
economics and politics. Of course, there are different standpoints within
IPE, which is what I am gonna talk about..


Third, what we mean when we mean by "political economy" in "any"
dicipline, I find the term "world system" analytically  more useful
than "international political economy" or "political economy" per se. The
reason for that is the latter still assumes that we are living in an
inter-state system, not in a world system. It further expects, given free
trade, all societies will automatically follow the western model of
capitalist development, ignoring global hierarchies within the system.
hence, it is implicitly biased in favor neo-classical economics or free
market orthodoxy. Even, imperialism is seen, in these accounts, preparing
the "conditions" for capitalism, and "westernizing" and "modernizing" the
rest of world. This is not the problem of "political scientists" or other
diciplines of social science, Barnet. the problem stems from the economics 
dicipline it self, a dicipline that is "still" less critical and conscious
of its hypothetical assumptions compared to other social sciences, whether
it is Buchanan or Smith type (actually, Lenin was one of the first who saw
the problems with orthodox, free market marxism, together with brilliant 
Gramsci around those times)


On the contrary, the concept "world system" (or even "international
political economy") was first invented and heavily used by political
scientists, political economists, sociologists, anthropologists and
historians, not economists per se! Inter-paradigmatic communication is
much stronger within those diciplines in terms of how their
diciplines relate to one another. For economists, on the contary, the
world is always economics "versus" other social sciences, and the rest is
a bunch of cultural sciences. Any serious attempt comes from other
diciplines to abridge the gap between economics and politics. for example,
Wallerstein is not an economist, but he provides one of the most systemic
analysis of modern capitalism, who can at least escape from the "margins"
of neo-classical economy by still being a political economist. I strongly
tend to believe his "sociology" background enriches his understanding of
political economy.

Mine Doyran
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Political Science
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Re: Re: Marshall

2000-04-08 Thread Eugene Coyle

Equilibrium might have been a central concept with Marshall but he was aware
that there might not be one under certain cost conditions. Telser  says of
Marshall:   "This conclusion, together with Marshall's well-known statement that
a seller might not lower his price 'for fear of spoiling the market' is strong
evidence of his sophisticated comprehension of the nature of a competitive
equilibrium."  (p. 53 of A Theory of efficient cooperation and competition)

Jim Devine wrote:

> a very interesting post!
>
> Ted Winslow writes: > These influences show up in a number of essential
> ways in Marshall's economics.  For instance, Marshall takes a "dialectical"
> view of social interdependence.  This underpins his conception of "caeteris
> paribus" and his use of the term "normal".<
>
> I don't get how concepts like "ceteris paribus" and "normal" jibe with
> dialectics, which involve a process in which ceteris is never paribus and
> today's "normal" is always different from yesterday's. How does equilibrium
> (which seems a central concept to Marshall) fit in with dialectics?
>
> later on: >In another essay, "The Future of the Working Classes" (Memorials
> pp. 109-118), he sets out the conditions which would be required for all
> persons to develop into "gentlemen" (his term for Marx's idea of the
> "universally developed individual" - a term suggestive of the fact that, in
> contrast to Marx, Marshall's version of the idea was not free of sexism).<
>
> also notice that Marshall implies that disalienation involves workers
> becoming like a gentleperson, while Marx would see the gentry as themselves
> alienated (in a different way than workers, natch).
>
> Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://liberalarts.lmu.edu/~JDevine/JDevine.html





Re: Re: Re: Re: the expression "political economy" (fwd)

2000-04-08 Thread md7148



>That is not the case in Canada. Here it is more usually associated with
>the
>left nationalist.


very true point, Rod! I have always beleived that there is something
interesting to look at in canadian leftism, eventhough canada
is one of the core capitalist powers. Once, the left was associated with
"almost" the same meanings in Turkey too. third world nationalist,
anti-imperialist, socialist, progressive, anti-fascist, radically welfare,
avant-garde, bla, bla, bla...we were very much influenced by european type
leftism (certain brands), and the organic ruling classes by french and
german type capitalism. thus, historically speaking,
neo-classsical economy and political liberalism of anglo saxon type are
alien to us. This is changing, however, within the last 30 years or so due
to the incresing US hegemony and market capitalism...though i strongly
reject that it should be a model for us however inevitable it seems in the
first place..


cheers,
Mine


Michael Perelman wrote:

> Usually today people use the term when they are writing are the margins of
> neo-classical economics (that includes Buchanan).
>
> Barnet Wagman wrote:
>
> > The term 'international political economy' is/was used by international
> > political scientists like Susan Strange - their use of the the term is
> > almost entirely unrelated to its use by Smith or Marxians or Buchanan
> > (in case things weren't confusing enought).
> >
> > Barnet Wagman
> >
> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
> Michael Perelman
> Economics Department
> California State University
> Chico, CA 95929
>
> Tel. 530-898-5321
> E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: the expression "political economy"

2000-04-08 Thread Michael Perelman

Ted Winslow wrote:

Ted's description of Marshall seems to follow Keynes's description of Marshall.
Keynes's Marshall is an attractive figure.  The real Marshall was not.  While he
would, in his earlier years and even from time to time in the Principles, make
idealistic statements about labor, he was not pro labor.

Marshall, Alfred. 1925. Memorials of Alfred Marshall, Alfred Pigou, ed., p. 400
letters on a strike by engineering workers for an 8-hour-day in 1897 "I want these
people to be beaten at all costs: the complete destruction of unions would be as
heavy a price as it is possible to conceive, but I think it is not too high a
price."

As I mentioned in the last note, Marshall was instrumental in formalizing economics,
because he resented people from other fields interjecting themselves into economic
debates.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: the expression "political economy"

2000-04-08 Thread phillp2

Michael wrote:

> Usually today people use the term when they are writing are the margins of
> neo-classical economics (that includes Buchanan).
> 

I have always liked Branko Horvats definition of political economy 
as "a fusion of economic and political theory into one single social 
theory."

In Canada, as Rod indicates, it has taken a very special meaning 
as indicated in this quote from Wally Clement and Glen Williams, 
edicated collection _The New Canadian Political Economy_.

"while political economy is based on a tradition that investigates 
the relationship between economy and politics as they affect the 
social and cultural life of societies, within political economy there 
have been divergent tendencies.  Broadly, the liberal political 
economy tradition has placed determinate weight on the political 
system and markets, while the Marxist tradition grants primacy to 
the economic system and classes.  Such facile statements, 
however, underplay the complexity of positions within each 
tradition.  Political economy at its strongest has focused on 
processes whereby social change is located in the historical 
interaction of the economic, political, cultural, and ideological 
conflict." [1989: 6-7]

Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba




Re: Re: Marshall

2000-04-08 Thread Michael Perelman

Jim Devine understands what Marshall was about.  Yes, he wanted labor to improve,
but improvement meant becoming more middle-class.  Keynes, Marshall, and Smith
all had a similar vision of labor becoming assimilated into the middle-class.
--
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Re: Re: the expression "political economy" (fwd)

2000-04-08 Thread md7148


Ted, why are you "radicalizing" Marshall and Keynes? In the final
analysis, they are fundamentally different from Marx? aren't they?

Mine
 

Ted wrote:

Another illustration of this influence, an illustration connected to this
first one, is Marshall's Marxist treatment of labour in capitalism as
"alienated" labour and his view that those who do it would be able, if the
conditions of their labour were appropriately transformed, to develop into
what Marx (following Hegel) called "universally developed individuals".
These ideas are rooted in a theory of ethics (taken over from Kant and
Hegel) which treats values as objective and knowable and, on this basis,
treats the human "will" as potentially, to use Hegel's language, a "will
proper" and a "universal will" i.e. as a will whose content, unlike the
content of other animal wills, in ultimately fully open to
self-determination by reason. (A "will proper" is a will fully open to
self-determination; a "universal will" is a will whose content derives
entirely from knowledge of the good reached through reason.)

Here are passages in which Marshall treats capitalist labour as alienated
labour:

"man ought to work in order to live, his life, physical, moral, and mental,
should be strengthened and made full by his work.  But what if his inner
life be almost crushed by his work?  Is there not then suggested a terrible
truth by the term working man, when applied to the unskilled labourer ­ a
man whose occupation tends in a greater or less degree to make him live for
little save for that work that is a burden to bear?"  (Marshall, *Memorials
of Alfred Marshall*, p. 108)

"in the world's history there has been no waste product, so much more
important than all others, that it has a right to be called THE Waste
Product.  It is the higher abilities of many of the working classes; the
latent, the undeveloped, the choked-up and wasted faculties for higher work,
that for lack of opportunity have come to nothing." (*Memorials*, p. 229)

In another essay, "The Future of the Working Classes" (Memorials pp.
109-118), he sets out the conditions which would be required for all persons
to develop into "gentlemen" (his term for Marx's idea of the "universally
developed individual" - a term suggestive of the fact that, in contrast to
Marx, Marshall's version of the idea was not free of sexism).

The reason Marshall gives for the change of name from "political economy" to
"economics" is consistent with all this and indicates as well his wish to
retain the meaning which Aristotle had given to the rational form of
acquisition.  Economics was to be understood as a "moral science" concerned
with the "health" of "the body Politic".  Its object was to insure the
provision to all members of the community of the material means of a "good
life" and, as part of this, to investigate how to organize this provision
(organize what Marx calls the "realm of necessity") so as to make the work
required to accomplish it compatible with the ultimate end.

This required, for instance, that work in the realm of necessity not be
alienated labour, that it be work which both developed and required
universal capacities.  It also required that it take up a minimal amount of
time so as to maximize the time available for "the realm of freedom" where
activities were ends-in-themselves rather than means, i.e. where they were
"art" in Kant's sense of "production through freedom, i.e. through a will
that places reason at the basis of its actions" (*Critique of Judgment*, p.
145).

Keynes was also insistent that economics was a "moral science" in this sense
having as its concern the health of the body Politic (see, e.g., Collected
Writings, vol. XIV, pp. 297 and 300).  This is the meaning of his claim that
in an ideal world organized on the basis of "the most sure and certain
principles of religion and traditional virtue" (IX, p. 330), economists
would be "humble, competent people, on a level with dentists".

"But, chiefly, do not let us overestimate the importance of the economic
problem, or sacrifice to its supposed necessities other matters of greater
and more permanent significance.  It should be a matter for specialists -
like dentistry.  If economists could manage to get themselves thought of as
a humble, competent people, on a level with dentists, that would be
splendid!" (IX, p. 332)

As was true of other changes Marshall made to language, the change from
"political economy" to "economics" was, I suspect, a response to Marx.
Specifically it was a response to Marx's treatment of "political economists"
as "representing their [capitalists'] *scientific* screed and form of
existence".

Marshall's substitution of the word "waiting" for the word "abstinence" is
likely another example of such a change.  He was responding to the ridicule
Marx heaped on Senior's substitution of the latter word for the word
"capital".  Marx had called this "an unparalleled example of the discoveries
of vulgar economics!" Capital, vol. 

Re: the expression "political economy"

2000-04-08 Thread Michael Perelman

The term, political economy, grew out of the earlier turn, economy, which meant
the management of an estate.  In the 17th century, Montechretian wrote the first
book using the term political economy.  He meant managing not just a single
estate, but the whole state.  It was not so much that it was political, as Paul
suggests the modern usage implies.

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> Michael wrote:
>
> > Usually today people use the term when they are writing are the margins of
> > neo-classical economics (that includes Buchanan).
> >
>
> I have always liked Branko Horvats definition of political economy
> as "a fusion of economic and political theory into one single social
> theory."
>
> In Canada, as Rod indicates, it has taken a very special meaning
> as indicated in this quote from Wally Clement and Glen Williams,
> edicated collection _The New Canadian Political Economy_.
>
> "while political economy is based on a tradition that investigates
> the relationship between economy and politics as they affect the
> social and cultural life of societies, within political economy there
> have been divergent tendencies.  Broadly, the liberal political
> economy tradition has placed determinate weight on the political
> system and markets, while the Marxist tradition grants primacy to
> the economic system and classes.  Such facile statements,
> however, underplay the complexity of positions within each
> tradition.  Political economy at its strongest has focused on
> processes whereby social change is located in the historical
> interaction of the economic, political, cultural, and ideological
> conflict." [1989: 6-7]
>
> Paul Phillips,
> Economics,
> University of Manitoba

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

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Re: past and future of multilateral institutions (fwd)

2000-04-08 Thread md7148



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Those interested in the April 16 demo might also benefit from something
I accidentally unearthed the other day: Samir Amin, "Fifty Years is
Enough, " a fifty-page special in Monthly Review (April 1995),
re-analysing the Bretton Woods institutions in the context of postwar
capitalist dynamics (and  American economic dominance), and assessing
possible avenues of  (feasible) reform. 

This reading and other considerations make me hope that April 16thers
will also direct their attention to the panoply of forces to which the
WB/IMF are themselves subject:
-- key congressional committees and other state bodies that
influence/determine WB/IMF policies 
-- conservative congressmen (some of whom see even the WB/IMF as
bastions of liberal internationalism)(and who withold funding from the
United Nations and its agencies)
--key lobbyists and lobbying firms,  which construct and sustain the
connection between the corporate world and the American state and
congress -- identifying those that have allowed particular corporate
interests to be favored by the multilaterals
- right-wing think tanks that have furthered conservative/pro-corporate
international policies
- embassies of countries that have been especially complicit in
mismanaging their resources, enacting harsh policies, agreeing to
ecologically damaging forms of exploitation, etc. 
- perhaps the headquarters or local office of a corporation or two --
who have somehow been involved in or profited from particular WB/IMF
policies.

When one thinks of  even these local manifestations of  the
corporate-political networks that oil the gears and pull the strings...
the World Bank and IMF seem more than ever the easy targets -- but are
they the most essential?

For an example of  REALLY bad guys at work (in a slightly different
domain), consider the following, from the Washgington Post:


The Second Amendment, Going Global 
By Kathi Austin

Sunday, March 26, 2000; Page B01 

Seventeen months ago, in the aftermath of gory civil wars in Sierra Leone
and Liberia and conflicts in neighboring countries that had left more
than 250,000 people dead, the Economic Community of Western African
States (ECOWAS) decided to try something unprecedented: It announced a
three-year moratorium in all 16 member nations on the export, import and
manufacture of small arms. 
Since most of the guns came from outside the region--and because ECOWAS
had insufficient money and technical expertise to implement a ban--the
West Africans appealed to the international community for help. The
United States was among the governments that agreed to contribute,
pledging $200,000 toward the moratorium and $1 million more for measures
to support conflict resolution. 
These were modest, even minimal grants. But they didn't get past Sen.
Jesse Helms. 
The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, a longtime ally
of the National Rifle Association, invoked a provision of the U.S.
Foreign Assistance Act to block the funding. In an Aug. 24, 1999, letter
to the U.S. Agency for International Development, Helms explained his
opposition: "The Small-Arms Moratorium project proposes using U.S.
taxpayers' money (among other things) to lobby or promote policies in
foreign countries that may very well be a violation of the second
amendment to the U.S. Constitution--if the federal government attempted
such activities here at home." 
The proposed aid, Helms wrote, was "nothing less than a brazen
international expansion of the President and Vice President's domestic
gun control agenda." 
I've been documenting conflict in Africa firsthand for 12 years, and it's
not clear to me what the Second Amendment has to do with blood-soaked
Sierra Leone. 
What does seem clear is that blocking support to ECOWAS was a warning
shot in the American gun lobby's plans to go global. The NRA, its allies
and affiliates are campaigning against what they describe as a worldwide
conspiracy of gun snatchers. The immediate goal appears to be frightening
American gun owners, thereby raising money and membership at home. But
there is a broader result: thwarting international attempts to contain
the spread and misuse of small arms. 
The most sensational atrocities in the West African wars may have been
amputations, carried out with machetes and knives. But the bulk of the
killings were committed with rifles, machine guns and semiautomatics--far
more efficient instruments of death. 
There are about 500 million of these cheap, durable and readily available
small arms circulating in the worl

London: Electronic Cultural Atlas June Meeting (fwd)

2000-04-08 Thread md7148


> From: Jack Owens, Idaho State University
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> **
>
> ANNOUNCEMENT
>
> The Electronic Atlas Cultural Initiative Conference
>
> British Library, London
> June 26-28, 2000
>
> Additional Meetings of ECAI Tech, ECAI Editors, and Special
> topics groups: June 23-25
> Workshops: June 29-30
>
> Registration is now open at the ECAI website
> (www.ias.berkeley.edu/ecai/) for the June Meeting of ECAI.
>
> Accommodation information can also be found at this site.
>
> ECAI
>
> The Electronic Cultural Atlas Initiative (ECAI) is an
> international research project [www.ecai.org] aimed at the creation of
> distributed, spatially referenced, GIS-style cultural databases which can
> be accessed across the Internet from a common front-end software.
>
> The ECAI project (initiated in 1997 and headed by Professor Lewis
> Lancaster, East Asian Languages and Cultures, University of
> California at Berkeley), constitutes a new dimension in academic research,
> applications of digital and networked technologies and
> international collaboration. At present approximately 300 area specialists
> from ECAI Regional Teams* in conjunction with ECAI Technical Teams, are
> producing an interactive electronic atlas of the world from which selected
> data from regions, eras, and disciplines can be accessed.
>
> ECAI is planning to extend its geographical focus into Europe,
> the Middle East and Africa. It has therefore asked the British
> Library to host its 2000 conference and, over the following months,
> experts in all fields in Britain will be approached to attend and form
> their own Regional Teams for all aspects of British, European, Middle
> Eastern and African history and culture.
>
> ECAI 2000 at The British Library will be an exciting and
> important forum.
>
> There will be a reception on Monday 26 June 2000 to celebrate
> ECAI's aims and achievements, attended by the UK Government Minister for
> Arts and Libraries, Alan Howerth.
>
> ECAI is an exemplar of international collaboration being used to
> harness expertise worldwide in order to increase public access to the
> world's culture and history via the Internet.
>
> 




further reflections on the connection between economics, social,political and ideological. new book: From Earth Spirits to Sky Gods (fwd)

2000-04-08 Thread md7148


excellent book in Marxian psychology from a world systemic perspective..
I am sure it will help our discussion on political economy..

Mine

--
Prof. Chris Chase Dunn wrote:

of relevance for comparing world-systems is a new book by
Bruce Lerro
_From Earthspirits to Sky Gods: The Socioecological Origins Of
Monotheism, Individualism And Hyperabstract Reasoning From The Stone Age
To The Axial Iron Age_ Lexington Press, 2000.

What is the difference between a spell and a prayer? Why do the gods
replace the goddesses in the creation myths of the ancient world? Why
does monotheism replace animism and polytheism at least among the upper
classes in some state societies?

This book is an attempt to a) link the sociohistorical school of
psychology, led by the marxian psychologist, Vygotsky to macrosociology
b) apply Vygotsky's cooperative theory of learning to tribal, archaic
and ancient societies in a way similar to Luria's study of the effect of
industrialization on the cognitive processes of workers and peasants c)
extend and deepen Marx and Engels' theory of religion by suggesting that
magic, unlike religion, is not a sign of alienation, but an expression
of egalitarian relations in some pre-state societies. d) to historicize
both Mead and Piaget, by arguing that both Mead's chararacteristics self
and Piaget's stages of cognitive development have an origin in history
and are not universally present.






Re: Re: Re: Marshall

2000-04-08 Thread Rod Hay

As far as Marshall's politics are concerned. He was firmly in the British liberal
tradition of charity towards his social inferiors. And resented it when workers spoke
for themselves.

As far as dialectics and Marshall are concerned. In a sense there is a dialectic in
Marshall. He is one of the few economists of his time who took seriously the
interaction of supply and demand. Most of his contemporaries tried to reduce
everything to subjective utility evaluations. And if supply was considered it was a
static given upon which demand acted.

Rod

Michael Perelman wrote:

> Jim Devine understands what Marshall was about.  Yes, he wanted labor to improve,
> but improvement meant becoming more middle-class.  Keynes, Marshall, and Smith
> all had a similar vision of labor becoming assimilated into the middle-class.
> --
> Michael Perelman
> Economics Department
> California State University
> Chico, CA 95929
>
> Tel. 530-898-5321
> E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: the expression "political economy"

2000-04-08 Thread Louis Proyect

>As I mentioned in the last note, Marshall was instrumental in formalizing
economics,
>because he resented people from other fields interjecting themselves into
economic
>debates.
>--
>Michael Perelman

Thank goodness he's not subbed to PEN-L.

Louis Proyect
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Marshall

2000-04-08 Thread Rod Hay

Michael has urged looking at the Greek meaning of economic to understand the meaning of
political economy. We should also look at the Greek root of politics. It derives from
polis. And doesn't necessarily carry the meanings inherent in the modern word 
political.

Rod
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Re: Re: Re: Re: the expression "political economy" (fwd)

2000-04-08 Thread md7148


>In Canada, as Rod indicates, it has taken a very special meaning 
>as indicated in this quote from Wally Clement and Glen Williams, 
>edicated collection _The New Canadian Political Economy_.

>"while political economy is based on a tradition that investigates 
>the relationship between economy and politics as they affect the 
>social and cultural life of societies, within political economy there 
>have been divergent tendencies.  Broadly, the liberal political 
>economy tradition has placed determinate weight on the political 
>system and markets, while the Marxist tradition grants primacy to 
>the economic system and classes.  Such facile statements, 
>however, underplay the complexity of positions within each 
>tradition.  Political economy at its strongest has focused on 
>processes whereby social change is located in the historical 
>interaction of the economic, political, cultural, and ideological 
>conflict." [1989: 6-7]

Paul, I liked the definition. There is a lot of potentional in the Marxist
tradition to explore the dialectical interaction of economics, politics,
cultural and ideological. I don't know if the authors would agree with me,
but this is what Marx would do as a critical theorist. However,as you
know, there are some Marxists in the Marxist tradition who uncritically
subcribe to the notions of "orthodox" economics and free market
capitalism. This, I would charecterize as economic determinism, has
interesting commonalities with liberal economics since it treats 
capitalism somewhat theologically and mechanistically. The typical "theory
of stages" argument says that we should let the market forces operate
untill capitalism unleashes itself. Any intervention in markets is seen as 
postponing the collapse of capitalism. so as the argument goes, this
tradition still emphasizes the primacy of economic laws rather than
revolutionary unity of theory and practice, which is so central to Marx's
thinking. is such a distortion of Marx unique to economics dicipline in
general? I have not seen, for example, such a religious reliance on
markets in other diciplinary discussions on political economy of 
capitalism

Mine

>Paul Phillips,
>Economics,
>University of Manitoba




Re: genome news

2000-04-08 Thread Mine Aysen Doyran

A Marxist sociologist Steve Rosenthal replies to those who think that there is no 
problem
with studying genome.

This is the "real" side of Wilson, not the progressive  Wilson as he is perceived by 
some.


>Steve Rosenthal
>
>   How Science is Perverted to Build Fascism:
>   A Marxist Critique of E.O. Wilson's
>   Consilience: The Unity of Knowledge.
>
> For twenty-five years Harvard biologist Edward O. Wilson has put
> forward the idea that it is human nature to be fascist.  In his
> latest book Consilience (an archaic word that means combining),
> Wilson insists that  sociobiology must be imposed on all academic
> disciplines.
>
> E.O. Wilson is a Harvard professor emeritus of entomology, the study
> of insects.  In the 1970s he updated the old social Darwinist
> ideology that human societies are shaped by the biological nature of
> humans. Just as the nature of ants creates colonies of queens,
> drones, workers, and slaves, the nature of humans creates racism,
> sexism, patriotism, wars, religion, and class exploitation.  Wilson
> used this "revelation" to argue that efforts to fight against racism,
> sexism, and imperialism go against human nature and are thus
> exceedingly difficult, and to claim that communism is unscientific
> and cannot work.  Wilson proudly says of himself, "At my core, I am a
> social conservative, a loyalist.  I cherish traditional institutions,
> the more venerable and ritual-laden the better."
>
> Wilson put these arguments into Sociobiology: The New Synthesis,
> published in 1975 by Harvard University Press and widely promoted by
> the popular media. Many natural and social scientists exposed human
> sociobiology as an unscientific attempt to defend the capitalist
> status quo as natural and unchangeable.
>
> Because of these sharp critiques, Wilson reinvented himself as an
> environmentalist concerned about bio-diversity.  A quarter century
> and five books later, Wilson today poses as a reasonable advocate of
> genetic and cultural "co-evolution" and as a proponent of
> genetic/environmental interaction.  He pretends to reject biological
> determinism, social Darwinism, and eugenics.  The ruling class has
> extolled Consilience as the crowning achievement of a visionary elder
> statesman of capitalist science.  The New York Times and The Wall
> Street Journal lavishly praised his call for the subjugation of the
> social sciences and the humanities to the natural sciences, and for
> the elevation of his pseudo-science to state religion.  The Atlantic
> Monthly interviewed Wilson and published excerpts of Consilience.
>
> The unifying concept of Consilience is human nature.  According to
> Wilson, human nature "is the_hereditary regularities of mental
> development that bias cultural evolution in one direction_and thus
> connect the genes to culture" (p. 164).  Therefore, in all human
> societies we favor our own family, ethnic and religious group,
> impose male dominance, create hierarchies of status, rank, and wealth
> and rules for inheritance, promote the territorial expansion and
> defense of our society, and enter into contractual agreements (pp.
> 168-172). Recycling the main ideological assertions of Sociobiology,
> Wilson claims that racism, religious hatred, sexism, and war are not
> inevitable features of capitalism, but universal traits of our
> genetically evolved human nature.
>
>  The natural sciences, Wilson claims, have discovered these truths,
>  and the social sciences and the humanities must adopt them in order
>  to achieve "consilience."   Cognitive neuroscience, human behavioral
>  genetics, evolutionary biology, and the environmental sciences are
>  the four "bridges of consilience" from the natural sciences to the
>  social sciences and humanities.  Only "consilience" can rescue social
>  scientists and humanists from "the pits of Marxism" and postmodernist
>  relativism.
>
> To illustrate "consilience," Wilson interprets the 1994 genocide in
> Rwanda.  He writes that it was partly an example of "ethnic rivalry
> run amuck," reflecting our genetically based tribal instincts. It
> also had a "deeper cause, rooted in environment and demography."
> Population growth outstripped the carrying capacity of the land. "The
> teenage soldiers of the Hutu and Tutsi then set out to solve the
> population problem in the most direct possible way."  And, Wilson
> concludes, "Rwanda is a microcosm of the world" (pp. 287-88).
>
> Consider what Wilson omits from his analysis.  Hutus and Tutsis
> intermarried centuries ago, and there is no biological distinction
> between them.  European colonialists arbitrarily created an ethnic
> distinction and used the Tutsi minority to impose indirect rule on the
> Hutu majority.  The International Monetary Fund and the World Bank
> imposed agricultural and financial reforms that shifted land use from
> subsistence food production to export crops such as coffee.
> Environmental scientists and 

Re: Re: genome news

2000-04-08 Thread Brad De Long

>A Marxist sociologist Steve Rosenthal replies to those who think 
>that there is no problem
>with studying genome.
>
>
>Mine Aysen Doyran
>PhD Student
>Department of Political Science
>SUNY at Albany
>Nelson A. Rockefeller College
>135 Western Ave.; Milne 102
>Albany, NY 1

>
>  Because of these sharp critiques, Wilson reinvented himself as an
>  environmentalist concerned about bio-diversity.

Serious critics of Wilson don't make such an accusation because it is 
false. One can be--and Wilson always has been--both a sociobiologist 
and an environmentalist concerned about bio-diversity.

And a critique of sociobiology is not an argument against trying to 
use knowledge about our genes to cure and prevent diseases...


Brad DeLong




Which Way to a New American Radicalism?

2000-04-08 Thread Louis Proyect

[In 1956 the American left faced many of the same problems it faces today.
The 1950s were a period of political retreat accompanied by a boom that
showed no signs of slowing down. A discussion broke out in the pages of the
radical National Guardian newspaper about the relevance of Marxism to the
new situation. Harry Braverman responded to the Guardian in the pages of
the American Socialist in a manner that would seem relevant to our
situation today which presents the American left with many of the same
sorts of imponderables. Braverman and co-editor Bert Cochran had split with
the American Trotskyist movement over perspectives following WWII. The
party leadership held the view--alluded to in Harry's article--that "The
end of World War Two was firmly expected to produce a return to the
depression of the thirties." As a corollary, the Trotskyist Socialist
Workers Party would recruit thousands if not millions of trade unionists to
its ranks and overthrow the capitalist system. Ironically, the Cochranite
faction not only included the most seasoned trade union militants, but also
the most talented Marxist economists starting with Braverman and Cochran
themselves. The American Socialist was probably the first Marxist
publication to reject the kind of "depression era" mentality that
characterized groups like the SWP as well as the naked revisionism of
groups like the Communist Party and the new left ideologues who would soon
make an appearance. The magazine not only featured perceptive economic
analysis from Braverman and Cochran, but those from other traditions such
as the ex-CP'er William Mandel and "council communist" Paul Mattick. For
the new Marxist left which we need so urgently in this country, those are
the kinds of standards we should aspire to.]

American Socialist, April 1956

The prolonged period of full employment has shaken the Left's confidence in
Marxist economics, and given rise to all sorts of "coalitionist" notions in
politics. This discussion of socialist perspectives sets forth a program
for the coming period.

Which Way to a New American Radicalism? 
by Harry Braverman

BY this time, the fact that the American Left has suffered a serious
decomposition--in numbers, spirit, organization, and ideology--is no longer
anybody's private secret. The problem is being discussed from time to time
in periodicals and organizations of the Left, and even those groups which
try hardest to maintain an outward demeanor of calm and unruffled composure
show signs of a shaken confidence.

As an important example of such recent discussions, the two series of
articles in the National Guardian by Tabitha Petran represented a healthy
reaction against shortcomings of the American radical movement which have
weakened it in its present crisis. The Communist Party took a heavy and
well-deserved slugging for its long-time penchant for dealing in slogans
and maneuvers without regard for their basic soundness; for its failure to
base its work, these many years, upon a serious and sustained advocacy of
socialism in America; for its latest hapless adventure in the form of a
so-called "coalition policy"-- this last being nothing but a fancy name for
a pathetic attempt to become a tail on a capitalist donkey.

It is widely understood that some of the major causes for the Left's
decline were outside its own control: the stabilization and expansion of
the capitalist economy after World War II, and the red-scare hysteria
connected with the cold war. No tactical recipes can drastically change our
situation, and infuse glowing health and rapid growth. But what such a
discussion can produce, if it is honestly and fearlessly pursued, is a
renewal of perspective, with- Out which no movement can thrive, and a set
of tactics which can meet the most pressing present problems, restore a
secure footing and balance, and open the way for progress on a small scale
today and on a larger scale when the situation in the country is more
favorable.

MUCH of the discussion has rightly centered around prospects for the U. S.
economy. Many reasons been adduced, both on the Left and elsewhere, why we
can no longer expect any serious economic debacle in America. Government
intervention and stabilizers, production, new industries, have all figured
in the argument. But undoubtedly the weightiest of all considerations has
gone unmentioned: the conservatism of the human mind. Much economic
reasoning that passes itself off as based on deep and technical cogitation
rests on no than the difficulty on the part of the reasoner of conceiving a
sharp turn in a situation which has continued without break for a
relatively long period of time. Realism is a quality of thinking much to be
admired and striven after, but where it lacks an essential leavening of
flexibility and dynamism it tends to see the future as a simple indefinite
continuation of the seemingly solid and impressive trends of the present.
In an epoch which is subject to sharp changes--without notice-

Re: Re: genome news (fwd)

2000-04-08 Thread md7148



Brad,can you please read the rest of Steve's post, or the sentence that
prior to the sentence you cite? since Steve is not here, I can not talk
on behalf of him, but his work is an excellent piece in Marxian sociology.
moreover, it is a serious critique of socio-biological assumptions about
human nature and biological determinism of Wilson. the man (wilson) is
briefly saying that capitalism, sexim and racism are in our genes, which
is what almost all the socio-biologists fundamentally share theoretically 
(Pearson, DAwkins, Lynn, Rushton, etc...).Racism is not "accidental" to
socio-biological assumptions; on the contrary, it is very intrinsic.

Steve wrote:

>>  Because of these sharp
critiques, Wilson reinvented himself as an
>>  environmentalist concerned about bio-diversity.

You replied:

>Serious critics of Wilson don't make such an accusation because it is
>false. One can be--and Wilson always has been--both a sociobiologist



this is not an accusation, Brad!; this is what Wilson says. Below *is*
real Wilson, not the enviromentalist Wilson you are talking
about. I have fought with folks elsewhere who tend to give a
progresive reading of Wilson, but this is *not* Wilson. Marxists should
solve the problem of socio-biology because this is completely an
an ideological science. Wilson is racist, sexist and
anti-labor..see below..


Steve wrote:

>The unifying concept of Consilience is human nature.  According to
>Wilson, human nature "is the_hereditary regularities of mental
>development that bias cultural evolution in one direction_and thus
>connect the genes to culture" (p. 164).  Therefore, in all human
>societies we favor our own family, ethnic and religious group,
>impose male dominance, create hierarchies of status, rank, and wealth
>and rules for inheritance, promote the territorial expansion and
>defense of our society, and enter into contractual agreements (pp.
>168-172). Recycling the main ideological assertions of Sociobiology,
>Wilson claims that racism, religious hatred, sexism, and war are not
>inevitable features of capitalism, but universal traits of our
>genetically evolved human nature.


I wrote:

 >A Marxist sociologist Steve Rosenthal replies to those who
think >that there is no problem
>with studying genome.
>
>
>Mine Aysen Doyran
>PhD Student
>Department of Political Science
>SUNY at Albany
>Nelson A. Rockefeller College
>135 Western Ave.; Milne 102
>Albany, NY 1




Bolivia under Martial Law!

2000-04-08 Thread Seth Sandronsky

All,

Bad news from Bolivia.

Seth Sandronsky


Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000
Subject: URGENT MESSAGE FROM JIM SHULTZ/Bolivia under Martial Law!

Dear Friends:

Just a few hours ago Bolivia was declared under martial law.  People
are being arrested, the army is occupying the streets, human rights
offices are being invaded by government agents, radio stations are being

closed by the military and huge sections of the city have had their
electrical power cut (I had to leave home to find a computer that was
still charged to write this).

The situation is grave and we need help to get the story out.  Please

share the brief article below as far and wide as you can with anyone who

will publish or broadcast it.  My own media list is in a computer which
I
can't access. For the time being I can still be reached at
591-4-290-725.
I will try to send updates as the situation allows.  Please do not worry

for our safety, my family and I are fine and keeping well away from the
violence.  IF YOU RESPOND, PLEASE RESPOND TO THE E-MAIL BELOW, NOT THE
RETURN ON THIS ONE.

 -Jim Shultz
  The Democracy Center
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


**BOLIVIA UNDER MARTIAL LAW**

As of 10 am Saturday morning Bolivia was declared under martial law
by
President Hugo Banzer.  The drastic move comes at the end of a week of
protests, general strikes, and transportation blockages that have left
major areas of the country at a virtual standstill.  It also follows, by

just hours, the surprise announcement by state officials yesterday
afternoon that the government would concede to the protests' main
demands,
to break a widely-despised contract under which the city of Cochabamba's

public water system was sold off to foreign investors last year.  The
concession was quickly reversed by the national government, and the
local
governor resigned, explaining that he didn't want to take responsibility

for bloodshed that might result.

   Banzer, who ruled Bolivia as a dictator from 1971-78, has taken an
action that suspends almost all civil rights, disallows gatherings of
more
than four people and puts severe limits on freedom of the press.  One
after another, local radio stations have been taken over by military
forces or forced off the air.  Reporters have  been arrested The
neighborhood where most of the city's broadcast antennas are located had

its power shut off at approximately noon local time.  Through the night
police searched homes for members of the widely-backed water protests,
arresting as many as twenty.
   The local police chief has been instated by the President as governor
of
the state. Blockades erected by farmers in rural areas continue across
the
country, cutting off some cities from food and transportation.  Large
crowds of angry residents, many armed with sticks and rocks are massing
on the city's center where confrontations with military and police are
escalating.


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Bolivia declares emergency over protests - April 8, 2000

2000-04-08 Thread Stephen E Philion


You have to scroll down a bit to get to the story, but it's worth reading. 
Steve

Subject: CNN.com - Bolivia declares emergency over protests - April 8, 2000


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Protesters protect their faces from tear gas fired by national police who dispersed thousands of demonstrators in Cochabamba, Bolivia, during protests against the raise in water rates

 






April 8, 2000
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LA PAZ, Bolivia (Reuters) -- Bolivia's government put the landlocked Andean nation of 8 million people under a state of emergency Saturday, after it was rocked for a week by protests over pending waterworks projects and legislation.




"We see it as our obligation, in the common best interest, to decree a state of emergency to protect law and order," President Hugo Banzer said in a message delivered by Information Minister Ronald MacLean at the government palace.




The state of emergency giving Banzer special powers to deploy police and the military will be in place for 90 days. It was announced Friday night to avoid damaging "the efforts for social dialogue" and assure "that the great effort towards economic reactivation is not set back further," MacLean read.




The move has to be ratified by Congress, in which the ruling party controls the majority.




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Re: Re: Re: genome news (fwd)

2000-04-08 Thread Brad De Long

>Brad,can you please read the rest of Steve's post, or the sentence that
>prior to the sentence you cite? since Steve is not here, I can not talk
>on behalf of him, but his work is an excellent piece in Marxian sociology.
>Steve wrote:
>
>>>   Because of these sharp
>critiques, Wilson reinvented himself as an
>  >>  environmentalist concerned about bio-diversity.

If it is an excellent piece of Marxian sociology, why does it make 
false claims about Wilson's intellectual development?

Either Steve does not know enough about E.O. Wilson to know that he 
was always *both* a sociobiologist and an environmentalist--in which 
I have better things to spend my time reading, things written by 
people who have done their homework--or Steve knows that he is lying 
when he claims that Wilson's environmentalism is an intellectual 
re-make--in which case I have better things to spend my time reading, 
things written by people who don't lie to me.


Brad DeLong




Re: the expression "political economy"

2000-04-08 Thread Carrol Cox



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have always liked Branko Horvats definition of political economy
> as "a fusion of economic and political theory into one single social
> theory."

This implies that they were ever separate. The allocation of resources
is obviously the most political of acts, and the aim of economics seems
to have been above all to conceal this fact. One cannot fuse or join
what were never separate.

Carrol

See Ellen Meiksins Wood, *Democracy against Capitalism*, Chapter
1, "The Separation of the 'Economic' and the 'Political" in Capitalism"




Re: Re: Re: Re: genome news (fwd)

2000-04-08 Thread Mine Aysen Doyran

>

> >Steve wrote:
> >
> >>>   Because of these sharp
> >critiques, Wilson reinvented himself as an
> >  >>  environmentalist concerned about bio-diversity.
>

Brad replied:

> >If it is an excellent piece of Marxian sociology, why does it make
> >false claims about Wilson's intellectual development?
>
> >Either Steve does not know enough about E.O. Wilson to know that >he
> >was always *both* a sociobiologist and an environmentalist--in >which
> >I have better things to spend my time reading, things written by
> >people who have done their homework--or Steve knows that he is >lying
> >when he claims that Wilson's environmentalism is an intellectual
> >re-make--in which case I have better things to spend my time >reading,
> >things written by people who don't lie to me.
>

Brad, please know what you are saying. Nobody is a lier about Wilson's
intellectual development here. Steve is DOCUMENTING passages from Wilson's
book. Accordingly, he CITES Wilson who says that human nature "is
the_hereditary regularities of mental development that bias cultural evolution
in one direction_and thus connect the genes to culture" (p. 164). well, how do
you interpret this? just a naive bio-diversity or an objective scientific
statement?If you agree with what Wilson says, there is no point in continuing
this debate because my reading of him is that he is obviously racist. This is
because Wilson is reducing cultural and other social differences to genes, and
then reconstructing and universalizing an hypothetical theory of  human nature,
which is completely false and ideological. Human beings are *not* determined by
their genes. They are shaped by the social, cultural, ideological and
political-economic environment they live in. As cross-cultural anthropological
studies further proves that many societies such as tribal bands, small
communities, ancient groupings did not have the same perceptions of masculinity
and feminity that we have today. these are socio-historical constructions, sex
roles, broadly defined, not genetic givens. the socio-biological claim that
people differ because they differ genetically is called RACISM, which is what
Wilson does eventually. thus, i don't understand why you support the man!


--

Mine Aysen Doyran
PhD Student
Department of Political Science
SUNY at Albany
Nelson A. Rockefeller College
135 Western Ave.; Milne 102
Albany, NY 1




Re: Re: Re: the expression "political economy"

2000-04-08 Thread Ted Winslow

Mine asks:


> 
> Ted, why are you "radicalizing" Marshall and Keynes? In the final
> analysis, they are fundamentally different from Marx? aren't they?
> 

I don't think the study of ideas in general or of the history of ideas in
particular is an intellectual version of World Wide Wrestling.

I'm just trying to show as best I can what the ideas of Marshall and Keynes
actually were.  The strikes me as an important preliminary to deciding
whether they are ideas we should ourselves adopt.  For these purposes, the
category "bourgeois thinker" is not merely not helpful it's disabling since
it prevents us from examining ideas with what Keynes and Gadamer call "good
will".

Ted
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Of Steve Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: genome news (fwd)

2000-04-08 Thread Stephen E Philion

For the record, the Steve referred to below is Steve Rosenthal, not me...

Steve (The "PEN Steve")

Stephen Philion
Lecturer/PhD Candidate
Department of Sociology
2424 Maile Way
Social Sciences Bldg. # 247
Honolulu, HI 96822


On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Mine Aysen Doyran wrote:

> >
> 
> > >Steve wrote:
> > >
> > >>>   Because of these sharp
> > >critiques, Wilson reinvented himself as an
> > >  >>  environmentalist concerned about bio-diversity.
> >
> 
> Brad replied:
> 
> > >If it is an excellent piece of Marxian sociology, why does it make
> > >false claims about Wilson's intellectual development?
> >
> > >Either Steve does not know enough about E.O. Wilson to know that >he
> > >was always *both* a sociobiologist and an environmentalist--in >which
> > >I have better things to spend my time reading, things written by
> > >people who have done their homework--or Steve knows that he is >lying
> > >when he claims that Wilson's environmentalism is an intellectual
> > >re-make--in which case I have better things to spend my time >reading,
> > >things written by people who don't lie to me.
> >
> 
> Brad, please know what you are saying. Nobody is a lier about Wilson's
> intellectual development here. Steve is DOCUMENTING passages from Wilson's
> book. Accordingly, he CITES Wilson who says that human nature "is
> the_hereditary regularities of mental development that bias cultural evolution
> in one direction_and thus connect the genes to culture" (p. 164). well, how do
> you interpret this? just a naive bio-diversity or an objective scientific
> statement?If you agree with what Wilson says, there is no point in continuing
> this debate because my reading of him is that he is obviously racist. This is
> because Wilson is reducing cultural and other social differences to genes, and
> then reconstructing and universalizing an hypothetical theory of  human nature,
> which is completely false and ideological. Human beings are *not* determined by
> their genes. They are shaped by the social, cultural, ideological and
> political-economic environment they live in. As cross-cultural anthropological
> studies further proves that many societies such as tribal bands, small
> communities, ancient groupings did not have the same perceptions of masculinity
> and feminity that we have today. these are socio-historical constructions, sex
> roles, broadly defined, not genetic givens. the socio-biological claim that
> people differ because they differ genetically is called RACISM, which is what
> Wilson does eventually. thus, i don't understand why you support the man!
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Mine Aysen Doyran
> PhD Student
> Department of Political Science
> SUNY at Albany
> Nelson A. Rockefeller College
> 135 Western Ave.; Milne 102
> Albany, NY 1
> 
> 




Re: Re: Re: Re: genome news (fwd)

2000-04-08 Thread md7148


>On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Mine Aysen Doyran wrote:

>>the socio-biological claim that people differ because they differ
>>genetically is called RACISM, which is what Wilson does eventually.

>This is the crux of the matter. If one supposes that culture is
>determined
>by genes, then one is left explaining cultural differences in terms of
>genetic differences. Different cultures, different people. If you claim
>that there are different types of people, you are making a racist
>argument.

>Andrew

this is *exactly* Wilson! finally somebody has attempted to challenge
socio-biology. i appreciate your contribution Andy!! where have
you been lately?

My problem is that why is this person popular among leftists so much given
that he is a self-proclaimed anti-marxist. What makes Wilson so
attractive and appealing to some people? and why? this the heart of the
matter that seems worth looking at. why are the marxists critical of
socio-biology are minority in every forum i have been to, and forced to
declare their own scientific status? I get from your reading that there
are "fundamental" problems with socio-biology? so one can not be, in
principle, progressive and socio-biologist? am i right?

Mine