Chavez question

2004-08-16 Thread Michael Perelman
Thank God he won!  Still, I have a question.  If 70% of the people are poor, how did
the opposition get so many votes?
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Re: Economics and law

2004-08-16 Thread Michael Perelman
I would not like to see an extended Stalin debate.
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Re: Economics and law

2004-08-16 Thread Michael Perelman
Ken, this comes close to baiting.


On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 01:38:03AM -0400, Kenneth Campbell wrote:
> David Shemano writes:
>
> >The issue is not whether East Germany, or any other socialist
> >economy, was less "able" [...]
>
> Yes it was -- the part you are responding to. It was about regions.
>
> I wanted to show that you probably didn't even know where Europe is...
> let alone why Germany is not a unit.
>
> There is a stereotype about Americans-in-control: "They can't read
> maps." (Canada knows this.) I assume the moderator gave you a thumbs up
> for a reason. (Maybe you are not a Novak-Limbaugh sort.)
>
> Anyway, so you tried to switch topics... and now it is not about the
> devaluation of life I mentioned in the original thread, now it is about
> Volvos and good cars from that socialist country.
>
> Good legal strategy, btw... when losing, swing any shit at hand in forms
> of motions...
>
> Ken.
>
> --
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>   -- Noam Chomsky

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RE: [PEN-L] Chávez Loyalists Troll Barrios for Venezuela's Undecided

2004-08-15 Thread Perelman, Michael
Yahoo News says that the turnout is heavy.  If so, that is great news.

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Re: KPFA and Sasha Lilley

2004-08-15 Thread Perelman, Michael
Generally, it is a bad idea to challenge another member directly in the
heading, since it sets off flames, but I cannot think of many people
less inclined to intemperate behavior than Doyle and Sasha.  If she
wants to open a dialogue that could help matters at Pacifica, I would be
glad to see the list help.  If not, we can just hope that this dispute
works out without too much damage.


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Re: Shleifer update

2004-08-15 Thread Perelman, Michael
I assume you mean that he will become the chair of Harvard's econ.
department.  After all, wasn't he close to Summers?


Daniel wrote: shit, if that's the dude's defence he'll be lucky if he
doesn't get the
chair!

dd


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-Original Message-
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Michael
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Subject: Shleifer update


 Harvard and Shleifer say that the reforms they suggested
worked well.



Shleifer update

2004-08-14 Thread Perelman, Michael
I picked this up off the Economic Principles site.


A conference on damages in the government's suit against Harvard
University and one of its star economists, originally slated for July
19, has been rescheduled for September 9.

US District Court Judge Douglas Woodlock presumably will ask all parties
to file briefs on what they think they ought to be required to pay --
Harvard for breach of its $34 million contract; economics professor
Andrei Shleifer and his then-assistant, lawyer Jonathan Hay, up to three
times that much for the civil fraud Woodlock concluded they committed. 

The government has argued that the entire value of Harvard's mission to
Moscow was lost when it turned out in the mid-1990s that Shleifer and
Hay and their wives had been investing in Russian businesses and
securities, in violation of the conflict of interest provisions of their
contract. Harvard and Shleifer say that the reforms they suggested
worked well. 

The US State Department fired Harvard when the transgressions came to
light in 1996.  The Russian government fired the State Department in
turn, saying that the Harvard team had done nothing wrong while advising
them.


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naming that system

2004-08-14 Thread michael a. lebowitz


<
< < 
Date
Index
  
Re: Economics and law
by andie nachgeborenen
14 August 2004 16:07 UTC
<
< < 
Thread
Index
>
> > 
Well, I don't want to get into this distraction on the Russian question,
but you could call the system bureaucratic collectivism (Schachtman's
term) or the command-administrative system (the perestroichiki's term),
or totalitarianism, or lots of things, but the fact is we don't really
have a  good name for it. 
How about the 'vanguard mode of production'?  
Cf. Lebowitz,  'Kornai and the Vanguard Mode of Production' in
Cambridge Journal of Economics (May 2000).
8^)
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Re: Economics and law

2004-08-13 Thread Michael Perelman
Obviously, someone who is very poor & needs transportation will be unlikely to
purchase a Volvo & would be more likely to settle for a Yugo.


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stalin quote

2004-08-13 Thread michael a. lebowitz


Re: Economics and law
by Carrol Cox
13 August 2004 17:38 UTC
<
< < 
Charles Brown wrote:
>
>
>
> CB: Why was there a need to develop the agrarian country ? People
had been
> surviving in agrarian societies for millenia.

For one thing, the USSR existed in a capitalist sea, & as Stalin said
in
1930, they had 10 years to catch up with the west industrially,
culturally, etc or they would be overrun. (This speech by Stalin was
quoted by Carl Oglesby in a book the title of which I now forget, and I
have never been able to run down the text in any of Stalin's works that
I possess.)

Vaguely from memory, it may
have been 'Speech to Business Executives' from 1931.

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Re: economics, law and the old soviet economy

2004-08-13 Thread michael a. lebowitz


Economics and law
by Charles Brown
13 August 2004 17:09 UTC 
by Chris Doss



Mainly that was me writing off the cuff while trying
to meet a deadline and working through a hangover. It
wiould be better to say something like "the shape of
Soviet society was determined first and foremost by
the need to develop an agrarian country. It succeeded.
The rest of teh stuff is fluff."

^^

CB: Why was there a need to develop the agrarian country ? People had
been
surviving in agrarian societies for millenia.

I'm without notes but roughly,
as comrade Stalin correctly stated in 1931, we have 10 years in which to
catch up or we will be defeated again.In support of Chris' point, I don't
recall this statement as having anything to do with building socialism as
such.
michael

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paradox of texas republican party

2004-08-13 Thread Michael Hoover
according to texas a&m political scientist harvey tucker, there is
strong positive relationship between voter turnout and democratic party
vote for governor, since 1970 when republicans began running competitive
elections for governor, dems have won all but one election when turnout
was at least 30% and reps have won all but one elections when turnout
was less than 30%...

rep gubernatorial candidates when big when turnout is small, bush was
elected in '94 with 53.5% of vote and he was re-elected in '98 with 68%
of vote, however, in each election he was only supported by 18% of
age-eligible voters in state, his large majority in latter instance was
result of keeping turnout low rather...

accordingly, greater number of votes texas rep gubernatorial candidate
receives, greater the probability dem candidate will win...   michael
hoover

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Re: Economics and law

2004-08-12 Thread Perelman, Michael
David interprets the car as a capitalist commodity.  I partially agree
with him, but for different reasons since I don't like cars.

But the question would be how the automobile industry depended heavily
on the state -- to build roads, to dislodge street cars ....


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Re: [lbo-talk] KPFA Staff Open Letter to the Local Station Board

2004-08-12 Thread michael
This is very sad.  I have no idea what is at stake.  The other letter
that I saw also had endorsements from people that I respect.  All that I
know is that I hope that Sasha & the other people at KPFA continue their
good work.  I am very dependent on the information that I get off the
station.
I first heard Pacifica while spending a summer in LA in 1960.  I was a
senior in college, but I had never been exposed to anything like that --
both culturally & politically.  When I went to grad school in Berkeley
during the 60s, I learnt more from the station than from my classes.
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Facing South - 8/12/04

2004-08-12 Thread Michael Hoover
F A C I N G   S O U T H
A progressive Southern news report

August 12, 2004 * Issue 86
 _  
INSTITUTE INDEX * Who Is Watching?
Number of government surveillance programs currently in operation: 14
Year that Congress voted to de-fund the "Total Information Awareness" surveillance 
program due to civil liberties concerns: 2003
Year that the Pentagon admitted it planned to continue "TIA-like activities ... 
outside public view": 2004
Number of Florida residents a test-run of the "MATRIX" database program flagged as 
"having a statistical likelihood of being terrorists": 120,000
Estimated value of contracts that will be given to companies for "anti-terror" 
projects each year until 2010, in billions: $150
Number of lobbyists hired by corporations to secure homeland security contracts: 569
Number of communities that have passed resolutions opposing the Patriot Act and other 
"unconstitutional" surveillance programs: 344

Sources on file at the Institute for Southern Studies.
 _  
DATELINE: THE SOUTH * Top Stories Around the Region

ACLU DECRIES "SURVEILLANCE-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX"
The government is rapidly increasing its ability to monitor average Americans by 
tapping into the growing amount of consumer data being collected by the private 
sector, according to a report released by the American Civil Liberties Union. "The 
government has always recruited informers to help convict criminals, but today that 
recruitment is being computerized, automated, and used against innocent individuals on 
a massive scale that is unprecedented in the history of our nation," the ACLU's 
director said. (Common Dreams, 8/9)
http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0809-07.htm

ARMY GIVES IRAQ CONTRACT TO VIRGINIA COMPANY INVOLVED IN JAIL SCANDAL
The U.S. Army announced the award of a no-bid contract worth up to $23 million to 
Virginia-based CACI International Inc. for private interrogators to gather 
intelligence in Iraq. The contract came just as the Interior Department was preparing 
to cancel the existing contract with CACI, which came under scrutiny earlier this year 
after one of its interrogators was cited for involvement in the sexual humiliation of 
Iraqi captives at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison. (Los Angeles Times, 8/5)
www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-contract5aug05,1,3952058.story 

BEACH CLOSURES FROM POLLUTION INCREASE
The number of days that beaches closed or posted warnings because of pollution rose 
sharply in 2003 due to more rainfall, increased monitoring and tougher standards. 
There were 18,284 days of beach closures and advisories nationwide in 2003, an 
increase of 51 percent ― or 6,206 days ― from 2002, according to the 14th annual beach 
report by the Natural Resources Defense Council. (Associated Press, 8/6)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=624&ncid=624&e=4&u=/ap/20040806/ap_on_sc/beach_quality_3

PRISON/AIDS LINK HITS AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITIES
As health specialists continue to grapple with AIDS, the black community faces a 
complex social issue: the link between high rates of imprisonment among 
African-Americans and high rates of H.I.V. and AIDS. (New York Times, 8/6)
http://www.wilmingtonstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040806/ZNYT04/408060357/1002/BUSINESS

PENTAGON: HALLIBURTON FAILED TO ACCOUNT FOR $1.8 BILLION
Pentagon auditors have concluded that Halliburton Co. failed to adequately account for 
more than $1.8 billion of work in Iraq and Kuwait. The amount represents 43 percent of 
the $4.18 billion that Houston-based Halliburton's Kellogg Brown & Root unit has 
billed the Pentagon to feed and house troops in the region, the newspaper said. 
(Reuters, 8/11)
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5933577

BORDER PATROL GETS MORE POWER TO DEPORT
The Department of Homeland Security said today it will speed up deportations of 
certain illegal immigrants from countries other than Mexico to improve U.S. border 
security. In the past, these would have been sent to an immigration court where cases 
take an average of one year to be processed. Now, these immigrants will be immediately 
returned to their home nation. (Reuters, 8/10)
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2728818

DEMOCRATIC WOMEN GAIN GROUND IN THE SOUTH
While the Democratic Party fights to regain ground in the South, a growing cadre of 
Democratic women are winning races here. Hailing from the right wing of the party, 
Democrats like Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas and Mary Landrieu of Louisiana meld charm 
with conservative politics and a killer political instinct. (The Atlantic, 9/04)
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200409/starr

LIBRARY OF CONGRESS AIMS TO CREATE LARGEST CIVIL RIGHTS ARCHIVE
With a goal of creating the world's largest archive of firsthand accounts of the civil 
rights movement, the Library of Congress is conducting a 35-city, 70-day bus tour to 
mark the 40th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act. The Voices of Civil Rights bus tour 
traces the route of the 

NJ gov.

2004-08-12 Thread Michael Perelman
Why would an affair make him resign?  Is the Lt. Gov. a dem?
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Re: One Iraq veteran

2004-08-12 Thread Perelman, Michael
Gene, you probably know that the area surrounding Chico is perhaps the
most conservative in the state.  I wouldn't be disheartened by what you
hear coming from our local stations.


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Re: Paying the price for war

2004-08-12 Thread Michael Perelman
Seth may well be understating the cost of the war.  The budget of Walter Read is 
probably
left out of these estimates.  The cost of caring for the next generation of homeless 
people
who never found their way back from the horror.  The extra costs associated with the 
anger
generated abroad.

Could we use the "priceless" tag-line?
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Re: JEP & Schleiffer

2004-08-12 Thread Michael Perelman
Did he get fired?  Just from the development institute?
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Re: JEP & Schleiffer

2004-08-11 Thread michael
Paul deserves criticism for his summary of Shleifer -- he is far too
gentle. Shliefer insists that market-induced competition does not create
undesirable consequences. It is non-market corruption that is bad.
And he is considered one of the bright lights of economics.
Paul wrote:
2) Latest AEA/AER publication (San Diego Proceedings) has a choice
article:
"Does Competition Destroy Ethical Behavior?" by Andrei Shleiffer. Opening
sentence: "This paper shows that conduct described as unethical and
blamed
on 'greed' is sometimes a consequence of market competition." This builds
on the author's article entitled "Corruption" in last year's QJE.
I am sorry to kick someone when they are down, and also to criticize
someone not on the list but...
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Re: ABK Comrades!

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 9:58 PM >>>
>on other hand, nader's folks are pretty disingenuous re. reps who were
>apparently working to help him get on ballot,

You might want to verify your source.
 (as in Michigan where we do not need any
signatures thanks to the Reform Party endorsement).
<<<<<>>>>>

above was news story for some days during time i was in michigan this
summer,
re. reform party endorsement, apparent problem with ballot line exists
because there are apparently 2 reform parties in state, nader campaign
was said to be filing suit about time i was leaving at end of july, has
there been court ruling in matter, if so, was it decided in nader's
favor, thereby, securing his place on reform line, if not, above
statement by nader is not accurate...

michigan reform party flap led nader campaign in michigan to go from
saying that it wouldn't accept petition signatures generated by reps to
saying that it was no longer sure that it would refuse to accept such
signatures to eventually accepting said signatures (which were in excess
of number needed)...

my source is recollection of news coverage in michigan...   michael
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on country comparisons

2004-08-11 Thread michael a. lebowitz


Paul, I've forwarded your earlier note commenting on my former
colleague's reply to him; I'll post his answer if/when I get 
it.
 Paul wrote:
11 August 2004 17:56 UTC
<
< < 
 
On  8/7/2004 Mike Lebowitz wrote:
I
don't know anything myself about the way the PPP is constructed or the
neoclassical assumptions that Paul proposed were used. Intuitively,
though, it makes real sense to select the PPP measure (ie., something
that takes into account prices) over one using market exchange rates.
Eg., according to the dollar/cuban peso market exchange rate, we might
conclude that Cubans live on the equivalent of $20 USD per month. Anyone
think that tells us very much about the Cuban standard of living?
michael
[Yes
this is where most
people get drawn into the PPP : the per capita GNI (or GDP) numbers look
so low.  And they are low, if we think of measuring "living
standards" which GNI or any of the national accounts do NOT, they
only are a ticker to the market economy without double
accounting.    Comparing national accounts is only a
'market economy to market economy' basis.]
 
Maybe I've introduced a new question--- I was taking a Cuban monthly wage
(let's say 300 pesos) and the dollar/peso street exchange rate (say $25),
which would lead one to conclude that Cubans live on $12USD per month.
Ie., I wasn't raising national accounting questions as such. Now, a
little casual empiricism tells me that living standard for Cubans is
nothing like what $12 USD would be in the US. So, I ask, what would be a
better measure of the Cuban standard? Intuitively, I am inclined to
say--- we need to take into account the things that have zero or nominal
prices in Cuba. Are you saying that doing that leads in the wrong
direction because to price things completely we end up making
neoclassical assumptions? (How sensitive are the conclusions to
particular NC assumptions?) I.e., I'm prepared to accept your criticisms
of the PPP measure but I'm not certain what exactly you are proposing as
an alternative.
Paul:
[BTW: I don't know how Cuba's national accounts are calculated.  The
World Bank does not publish any figures at all.  I imagine it is
largely guesswork by whomever you are citing (UN?); as you know most
planned economies used Net Material Product as their equivalent. 
There can't be a logical conversion factor for the same reasons PPP
doesn't work (apples and oranges).  In fact, that is how this
international comparison business got started (for example
Gerschenkron, Alexander  A dollar index of Soviet
machinery output,
1951).  It was
quickly grasped (a bit like PPP) as an ideological tool, ultimately with
people like Wolfowitz and Pipes jumping in.]
You raise
here an interesting parallel. If I recall the Soviet growth question, it
revolved around the fact that implicitly two different questions were
being asked; (a) what is the growth rate using 1927/8 prices and weights
(ie., before a significant transformation) and (b) what is the growth
rate using later (eg., 1954) weighting and prices. Insofar as sectors
with high initial prices grew quite rapidly (and their prices fell
relatively), those choosing (b) could scoff at the Soviets who used (a).
A first issue, then, is what question do we want to ask? A second
consideration is whether we learn anything by asking both questions and
establishing a range? In the matter on hand, what is the question we are
asking? Taking the Kenya/ Manhattan comparison you raised before, do we
ask what it would cost a Kenyan to consume the Kenyan basket in NYC and
how that changes over time? Or do we ask what it would cost to consume a
NYC basket in Kenya? Or do we say, all of this is going to be
artificial--- let's just take the real wage in Kenya and the verifiable
currency exchange rate? 
Is this
basically the same question that you were exploring or have I gone off in
a completely different direction?
in
solidarity,
 
michael

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lesser evil question

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
If Kerry keeps shifting right, maybe we will have to vote for Bush as the lesser
evil?
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libertarian journal watch project

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
http://www.econjournalwatch.org/main/index.php

This would be an excellent project to replicate from the left.
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Re: ABK Comrades!

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/10/04 11:44 PM >>>
Only Nader/Camejo represented a potential to threaten the Democratic
Party's hegemony over the left side of the political spectrum by
taking 2-7% of the votes, according to the polls
<http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/08/nader-2004-nader-2000.html> --
hence the Democrats' well-organized attacks on Nader/Camejo.
Yoshie
<<<<<>>>>>

dems were going after nader irrespective of his standing polls, this was
gonna be payback, baby, for what lots of dems (however misguided and
cry-baby like) think happened in 2000...

and hey, it's their party, they can be scummy, although i'd suggest that
criticizing nade for considering another prez bid, trashing him when he
decides to run, and then
attempting to keep him off ballots and destroy his candidacy (at
relatively little financial cost to dems and economic burden to nader)
are quite different approaches,
some 'lefties' (most, if not all, of whom should be able to offer
persuaive account that nader did not cost gore 2000 election) might
genuinely/sincerely consider first approach to be legitimate or at least
something to debate, such folks should have nothing to do with nor be
associated with people engaged in third approach...

on other hand, nader's folks are pretty disingenuous re. reps who were
apparently working to help him get on ballot, this is same ole' cynical
establishment-like
politics that ought to be shunned...

allow me to play mainstram poli sci guy for a moment, potential
electorate has been told countless times grave importance of 2004
election (for sake of discussion at least, assume this is true),
historical data indicates that so-called 'important' elections are often
close contests, role of minor parties tends to be reduced in such
instances as
competition tends toward 'big tents' of two major parties, tends to be
spike in turnout in these types of elections as well, very largest
percentage of which goes to one or other of two large party camps...

above may help explain why nader fared less well than some had hoped in
2000, might also offer some predictive (so says mainstream poli sci guy)
expectation of nader - and other minor candidates - doing rather poorly
in 2004...   michael hoover



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Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Shane is also correct in interpreting my meaning.

On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 04:18:25PM -0400, Shane Mage wrote:
> Michael Perelman writes:
>
> >The foreign policy difference between Bush & Kerry would probably be
> >that Kerry would be less likely to instigate crises, such as Haiti
> >-- maybe Venezuela, but faced with public pressure might react like
> >Bush, or even worse in order to prove that he is STRONG.
>
>
> "public pressure"--this should be translated "an orchestrated
> media campaign," n'est-ce-pas?
>
> Shane Mage
>
> "Thunderbolt steers all things...It consents and does not
> consent to be called
> Zeus."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos

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Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Exactly.

On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 04:10:37PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
> Michael Perelman wrote:
>
> >The foreign policy difference between Bush & Kerry would probably be
> >that Kerry would
> >be less likely to instigate crises, such as Haiti
>
> Clinton co-opted Aristide; Bush overthrew him. The first sucks but
> the second is worse.
>
> Doug

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Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
KPFA had a debate between Cobb & Camejo regarding the charge of the rigged
convention.  It did not sound nearly as clear cut as it was presented here.

I was once on a jury panel for Camejo, but was kicked off & left with a clenched fist
salute.   I liked what he did when I was at Berkeley, but in his run for Gov., much
of his attack on Davis what almost identical to what the Republicans said.  He would
mention some progressive positions, but he devoted most of his time to fiscal
responsibility.

In the debate Cobb came off as a well-intentioned Green.  Not strong, but nice &
sincere, but he gave a reasonable explanation.  Camejo had answers, but nobody seemed
to have a clear cut case.
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Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
The foreign policy difference between Bush & Kerry would probably be that Kerry would
be less likely to instigate crises, such as Haiti -- maybe Venezuela, but faced would
public pressure might react like Bush, or even worse in order to prove that he is
STRONG.


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Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 2:27 PM >>>
Marvin Gandall wrote:
> I don't attach much credibility to what opportunistic politicians say
in
> election campaigns -- particularly in Kerry's case, where he perceives
his
> electoral fortunes, rightly or wrongly, to be dependent on adaptation
to a
> segment of the voting population infected with a high degree of
chauvinism.

Huh??? A clear majority of Americans now thinks the war was a mistake.
Beyond that, 90 percent of the delegates at the DP convention thought
the same thing. I wouldn't call Kerry an adaptationist at all. I would
say that he is swimming against the stream.
<<<<<>>>>>

kerry, of course, did go to war...

guy i work with taught at school overseas with jfk's sister years ago
and he says that she talked about how her brother wanted to be prez as
teen (reminds of what used to be reported about clinton), he joined
military because he thought that would be useful in later career,
noticed wind was blowing in different direction after coming back from
vietnam and jumped on anti-war bandwagon (some may recall flap a few
months back
over whether or not jfk was at v v a w meeting in which presidential
assassination was
raised, 'suggestion' was attributed to gainesville 8 defendant scott
camil who feds would later try to kill), surely no one (even his
loudest/strongest 'left' supporters) ever thought kerry was gonna rock
the boat...   michael hoover

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Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 8:32 AM >>>
many technical/procedural/justice problems arise from 1787
constitutional language assigning each state authority to determine
times, places, manner of holding elections...
<>

meant to note in above portion of earlier point that congress may at any
time by law make or alter state regulations...

query 1: what became of nader's announcement a few months ago that he
was going to establish a 'populist' party...

query 2: reform party 'endorsement' of nader preceded his selection of
camejo as running mate, any listers know whether reform endorsement is
for nader only or does it include candidate at bottom of ticket as
well...

can imagine some (many?) 'reformers' being less than pleased if party
endorsed socialist, 2000 reform party squabbles that gave impression of
turnips falling off vegetable cart still exist to some degree, evidenced
by dual/duel parties in michigan, moreover, nader endorsement has
apparently not gone over well with some (majority?) in whatever remains
of whatever reform party endorsed him, sounds familiar...  mh



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Re: ABK Comrades!

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/10/04 11:44 PM >>>
At 9:20 PM -0400 8/10/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
>maybe post header should have read: anybody but kerry and cobb, in
>any event, no need to limit oneself to left petit-bourgeois
>deviationism of nader, choose between several real-live socialists
>(commies even)

Only Nader/Camejo represented a potential to threaten the Democratic
Party's hegemony over the left side of the political spectrum by
taking 2-7% of the votes, according to the polls
<http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/08/nader-2004-nader-2000.html> --
hence the Democrats' well-organized attacks on Nader/Camejo.
Among the parties that you listed, only the Libertarian Party, whose
core supporters are well-to-do, will have its candidate on the
ballots in all 50 states:
Democratic strategists have long fretted that Ralph Nader
could draw votes from their presidential candidate. But a new survey
suggests that President Bush faces a potential threat of his own from
a more obscure spoiler: Michael Badnarik.
In the survey, conducted in three Midwest battleground states, some
voters who said they would choose Bush over Sen. John F. Kerry in a
two-candidate race also said they would pick Badnarik, the
Libertarian Party nominee for president, if he were added to the
ballot.
The numbers for Badnarik were small: He drew 1% to 1.5% of the vote
in a four-way race with Bush, Democratic candidate Kerry and Nader,
an independent. But analysts said the results suggested that the
small-government Libertarians could attract enough conservatives
disaffected with Bush's leadership to swing a tight race, just as
Nader attracted discontented liberals in 2000.
<<<<<>>>>>

you're not suggesting that one should only make vote choice among
candidates/parties on ballot in all 50 states..

re. libertarian 'spoiler' for bush, i posted figures in aftermath of
2000 election indicating that this happened in several states where
buchanan 'took votes' from bush
'allowing' gore to win those states, buchanan did this with national
aggregate of 1%...
michael hoover

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Fox to Be Tested for Rabies

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Headline from the Wash. Post online.
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Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 3:03 AM >>>
At 1:03 AM -0400 8/11/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
>of course, my point was that nader people have not - and will not -
>raise equal protection matter (although they'll - no doubt, and
>rightly so - complain about being exluded from prez debates)...

Have you actually looked into all the lawsuits that the Nader
campaigns have filed?

Here are a couple of lawsuits (probably among many more) that the
Nader campaigns this year and in the part have filed, singly or
jointly with other parties:
the 2004 Texas General Election and all subsequent General Elections
in Texas, and the facts and circumstances relating thereto, are
illegal and unconstitutional, in that they are violative of the
rights of the Plaintiffs under the First and Fourteenth Amendments to
1. This is a civil action for declaratory and injunctive
relief arising under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth
Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and under 42 U.S.C. § 1983.
Plaintiffs challenge the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania's requirement
Ohio had authority to list the name of presidential
candidate Ralph Nader on the November 2000 ballot without his Green
Party affiliation, a federal appeals court ruled yesterday.
Ohio officials said the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling
upholds the state's position that it has authority to impose
reasonable requirements for ballot listings to ensure orderly, fair
elections.
The Green Party and Nader had argued that keeping the party's
designation off the ballot violated their constitutional rights of
free speech, free association and equal protection of law.
As a matter of fact, in his writing, Nader indicted violations of the
equal protection clause as early as in 1958 in the context of noting
the court's turning a blind eye to them:
The Illinois law was challenged by the Progressive Party just before
the 1948 elections. The case reached the U.S. Supreme Court where it
was argued that the statute's disproportionate favoring of rural
counties violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
In a 6-3 decision, the court disagreed and upheld the law. Writing
the dissent, Justice Douglas stated: "The notion that one group can
be granted greater voting strength than another is hostile to our
standards for popular representative government." He was referring to
the fact that 25,000 signatures from 50 of the least populous
counties could form a new party while the same number from 49
counties with 87 percent of the registered voters could not. . . .
<<<<<>>>>>

stand corrected re. reference to 14th amendment, although none of above addresses 
point i was making, they're all *within* states, not *among* them..

texas example is about differential filing deadlines between parties and independent 
candidates in texas, not differential deadlines throughout states...

penn example is about absence of waiver for filing fee in penn (other states make 
allowance for such, thus, to not do so could be determined 'unreasonable' under 83 
supreme court decision

btw: 83 supreme court decision allows for differential definition of 
'reasonableness'...

ohio example is about differential number of petition signatures needed in ohio, party 
vs independent candidate...

re. illinois example in 58 nader co-authored article, douglas dissent refers to 
differential number of signatures among state's counties, interestingly, this does 
begin to get at my point if douglass critique is applied *among* the states, similar 
to warren's 64 majority opinion in _reynolds v sims_ (case from alabama, if memory 
serves correctly)
holding that one-person one-vote apportionment principle applied to state senates as 
well as to state lower-houses, if so, similar *principle* could also apply to u.s. 
senate irrespective of 1787 constitutional arrangement, same for douglass dissent if 
one considers differential numbers in various states (which could be addressed with 
use of
percentage since states do have different size populations)...

many technical/procedural/justice problems arise from 1787 constitutional language 
assigning each state authority to determine times, places, manner of holding 
elections...


>Sorry, I meant to write the Liberty Party.  "Although its vote never
>exceeded 3% of the votes cast in a presidential election, the party
>did further political abolitionism. In closely contested state and
>local elections, the Liberty party often held the balance of power,
>sometimes causing major party candidates to take advanced antislavery
>positions in a bid for its support" (Kinley J. Brauer, "Liberty
>Party," Encyclopedia Americana).  More importantly, many Libertymen
>eventually joined with anti-slavery factions of Whigs and Democrats
>to form the Free Soil Party, many of whose former member

Re: nader goes southwest

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/10/04 10:01 PM >>>
Nader Presidential Campaign Announces Southwest Airlines as its
Unofficial Campaign Airline
Nader had a good word for Southwest Airlines founder, Herb Kelleher.
<<<<<>>>>>

wonder what nader thinks of kelleher's $47,500 to rep national committee
this year and $2000 to bush campaign...

wonder what nader thinks of southwest helping ins detain 'illegal'
immigrants at various airports...

wonder why nader didn't mention that about 90% of southwest employees
are unionized (seems that would be good reason for selection), of
course, company began with no unions and implemented 'cooperative
culture' environment (via esop) and 'cross-utilization' (allowing
management to take workers from one area and use them temporarily
elsewhere) of employees prior to collective bargaining, these features
have remained prominent parts of southwest's management-labor relations,
both of which serve to increase labor productivity and hold down labor
costs...   michael hoover




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Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/10/04 3:16 PM >>>
At 1:07 PM -0400 8/9/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
>nader people might be of greater help to polity in general (of
>course, this is electoral campaign which, by definition, has narrow
>focus) by highlighting unequal/unjust ballot access procedures,
>state by state rules are clear violation of 14th admendment equal
>protection...

The best way to highlight unequal/unjust ballot access procedures is
to actually run a campaign that runs afoul of them -- then, there is
a practical struggle.  Who cares if ballot access procedures are
unequal and unjust if there is no candidate other than the Democratic
and Republican ones to begin with?
<<<<<>>>>>

of course, my point was that nader people have not - and will not -
raise equal protection matter (although they'll - no doubt, and rightly
so - complain about being exluded from prez debates)...


At 1:07 PM -0400 8/9/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
>carcasses of 'minor' parties across u.s. political landscape

Minor parties -- the Liberal Party, the Free Soil Party, etc. -- are
destined to die, but they are among the important political arenas
through which people network, gain experience, and accumulate
knowledge, and I'm interested in what individuals who are trained in
struggles that cannot immediately achieve their goals learn and what
they will do with what they have learned.  We need to keep learning
from major failures and minor successes until we encounter objective
conditions that may allow us to make use of our experience and
knowledge.
<<<<<>>>>>

neither of parties cited above would seem to be good examples of your
explanation (wonder how many folks are even familiar with either)...

free soilers (1848-54) were northern elite splinters from dem party who
had come to oppose slavery for economic reasons (in contrast to moral
abolitionists),
they desired 'free land' for homesteading (19th century economic elites
often manipulated egalitarian rhetoric of homesteading for financial
gain by paying people to
occupy land for them) while southern slaver class needed more land to
perpetuate slave-based planatation system...

free soil platform was ambivalent document in which anti-slavery plank
was followed by statement that congress did not have authority to
interfere with slavery within state
boundaries, but then party slogan 'free soil, free speech, free labor,
free men' was contradictory...

interestingly, some complained that martin van buren's (former u.s.
prez, 1837-40) 1848 prez campaign played 'spoiler' in splitting dem
votes - van buren received about 10% of 'popular vote') and allowing
whig zachary taylor to be elected (taylor died in office under somewhat
suspicious circumstances, his body was exhumed within last decade to
look into possibility of arsenic poisoning, test results said no, but
michael parenti (that cper/milosevic supporter/conspiracy theorist!)
suggests otherwise in _new political science_ article a few years
back)...

1850 compromise weakened cause, party got about 5% of vote in 1852 prez
election, dissolved itself shortly after, members dirfted into newly
formed rep party...

re. liberal party, suppose you mean new york liberal party as it is only
one of any significance (if one considers it as such) that i'm aware of,
origins in american labor split at end of ww2 over whether or not
commies should be allowed to play a role in alp,
anti-commie labor leaders opponents of such a role founded liberal
party, so party had organized labor (of a cold war sort) support early
on which manifest itself in endorsement of truman in 48 made possible by
new york's 'fusion' ballot status...

ny liberal party went on to endorse/nominate dem party candidate in
every prez election except 1980 when it supported john anderson, party
also gave endorsements to dem candidates for u.s senate from ny except
for its support of 'liberal' republican jacob javits, some suggest that
party's support of javits - who lost to alphonse d'mato
in rep primary - split dem/lib vote in 1980 between javits and dem
elizabeth holtzman allowing d'mato to win...

what are lessons...

At 1:07 PM -0400 8/9/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
>reform party line is absolutely irrevelevant in states where party
>has ballot status save two - florida and michigan (drum roll please
>- so-called 'battlegrounds')

It would be ironic if Cobb/LaMarche are on the Green Party ballots in
one-party states and Nader/Camejo are on the ballots in battleground
states.
Yoshie
<<<<<>>>>>

greens have prez ballot line in florida, parties have to hold national
nominating convention to qualify, state went from most difficult access
law in country to one more equitable a 

ABK Comrades!

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Hoover
maybe post header should have read: anybody but kerry and cobb, in any event, no need 
to limit oneself to left petit-bourgeois deviationism of nader, choose between several 
real-live socialists (commies even), and yes folks, personal choice party vp candidate 
is *behind green door* marilyn chambers, myself, i'd vote for leonard peltier if p&f 
party were on florida ballot... michael hoover

AMERICAN PARTY: 
Diane Templin (California)
Presidential Nominee
Al Moore (Virginia)
Vice Presidential Nominee

CONCERNS OF PEOPLE (PROHIBITION) PARTY: 
Gene Amondson (Alaska) 
Presidential Nominee
Leroy Pletten (Michigan)
Vice Presidential Nominee

CONSTITUTION PARTY: 
Michael Peroutka (Maryland)
Presidential Nominee
Chuck Baldwin (Florida)
Vice Presidential Nominee

GREEN PARTY: 
David Cobb (California)
Presidential Nominee
Pat LaMarche (Maine)
Vice Presidential Nominee

LIBERTARIAN PARTY: 
Michael Badnarik (Texas)
Presidential Nominee
Richard Campagna (Iowa)
Vice Presidential Nominee

PEACE & FREEDOM PARTY: 
Leonard Peltier (Kansas)
Presidential Nominee
Janice Jordan (California) 
Vice Presidential Nominee

PERSONAL CHOICE PARTY: 
Charles Jay (Indiana)
Presidential Nominee
Marilyn Chambers Taylor (California)
Vice Presidential Nominee

PROHIBITION PARTY: 
Earl F. Dodge (Colorado) 
Presidential Nominee
Howard Lydick (Texas)
Vice Presidential Nominee

REFORM PARTY / INDEPENDENT:  
Ralph Nader (I-Connecticut)
Presidential Nominee
Peter M. Camejo (Green-California)
Vice Presidential Nominee 

SOCIALIST PARTY USA:  
Walt Brown (Oregon)
Presidential Nominee
Mary Alice Herbert (Vermont)
Vice Presidential Nominee 

SOCIALIST EQUALITY PARTY: 
Bill Van Auken (New York)
Presidential Nominee
Jim Lawrence (Ohio)
Vice Presidential Nominee 

SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY: 
Róger Calero (New York)
Presidential Nominee
Arrin Hawkins (New York)
Vice Presidential Nominee  

WORKERS WORLD PARTY: 
John Parker (California)
Presidential Nominee
Teresa Gutierrez (New York)
Vice Presidential Nominee 

INDEPENDENTS & WRITE-INS: 
A.J. Albritton (American Republican Party-Mississippi) *
Sterling Allan (Providential Party-Utah) *
Stanford "Andy" Andress (I-Colorado) *
Joe Bellis (America's Party-Kansas) *
Kenneth M. Bonnell (I-Mississippi) *
Harry Braun (I-Arizona) *
Fred Cook (I-Georgia) *
Eric J. Davis (Michigan) *
Robert DiGiulio (Children's Party-Vermont) *
Bob Dorn (Washington) *
Lonnie D. Frank (I-California) *
John Galt Jr. (I-Pensylvania) *
Jack Grimes (United Fascist Union-Pennsylvania) *
Michael Halpin (I-New York) *
Larry D. Hines (I-Texas) *
Georgia Hough (I-Georgia) *
Keith Judd (I-Massachusetts) *
Darren E. Karr (Party X-Oregon) *
Samuel Keegan (I-Rhode Island) *
Joseph Martyniuk Jr. (I-Illinois) *
David Mevis (I-Mississippi) *
Muadin (E-Democratic Party-Massachusetts) *
Jeffrey Peters (We The People Party-New Hampshire)
Andrew M. Rotramel (I-Texas) *
Joseph "Average Joe" Schriner (I-Ohio) *
Dennis P. Slatton (United America Party-North Carolina) *
Dan Snow (I-Texas) *
Brian B. Springfield (I-Virginia) *
Lawrence Rey Topham (I-Utah) *
Lemuel Tucker (I-Michigan) *
Da Vid (Light Party-California) *
Tom Wells (Family Values Party-Florida) *
A.J. Wildman (I-Virginia) *

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Re: Economics and law

2004-08-10 Thread Perelman, Michael
David, the problem with the Pinto is that the government does not
adequately regulate safety -- not even to the extent of making relevant
information available --  so the regulation is left to the lawsuits -- a
very inefficient way of doing things.

A few bucks for a protective gasket would not have meant that much.  In
hindsight it was stupid, but very costly for a number of innocent
people.

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
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Chico, CA
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Shemano
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 12:55 PM
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Regarding the Pinto, cost/benefit analysis, etc., what exactly is the
issue?  I mean, we know with certainty that a certain number of people
are going to die each year from auto accidents.  We also know that if we
reduced the speed limit to 5 m.p.h.  required all passengers to wear
helmets, required safety designs used for race cars, etc., the deaths
would all be eliminated.  But we don't, because the costs of doing so
would be astronomical, and most people seem prepared to assume certain
risks in consideration for conveniences and benefits.  So is the problem
the concept of cost/benefit analysis, the improper implementation of
cost/benefit analysis, or disagreement about what are costs and
benefits?  If you reject cost/benefit analysis, how could you ever
decide whether any marginal rule should be accepted or rejected?  Why
does this issue have anything to do with capitalism/socialism -- would
not these issues have to be addressed no matter how the society is
organized?

David Shemano



Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-09 Thread Michael Hoover
intense)...

re. each state party nominating its own candidates, silliness of this
for prez election should be obvious...

re. nader/camejo ticket, how democratic is it for person at top of
ticket to choose
vp candidate (i realize that nader's candidacy is independent one but
that actually
serves to make my point), party conventions chose vp candidates until
fdr in 1940s,
today, prez nominees announce their choices and conventions accept them
(btw: reform party endorsed nader, not nader/camaejo, as far i know)...

re. prez debates, it is disingenuous to suggest that nader will be
included, unfair prez debate commission rules requiring that candidate
poll at last 15% in 4 of 5 nationa polls insures his exclusion...
michael hoover











Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-09 Thread Michael Hoover
ually serves to make my point), party
conventions chose vp candidates until fdr in 1940s, today, prez nominees
announce their choices and conventions accept them (btw: reform party
endorsed nader, not nader/camaejo, as far i know)...

re. prez debates, it is disingenuous to suggest that nader will be
included, unfair prez debate commission rules requiring that candidate
poll at last 15% in 4 of 5 nationa polls insures his exclusion...
michael hoover



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Bush Appointee to Reproductive Health Drugs Advisory Committee

2004-08-09 Thread Michael Hoover
President Bush has announced his plan to select Dr. W. David Hager to
head up the Food and Drug  Administration's (FDA) Reproductive Health
Drugs Advisory Committee. The committee has not met for more than two
years, during which time its charter lapsed. As a result, the Bush
Administration is tasked with filling all eleven positions with new
members. This position does not require Congressional approval. The
FDA's Reproductive Health Drugs Advisory Committee makes crucial
decisions on matters relating to drugs used in the practice of
obstetrics, gynecology and related specialties, including hormone
therapy, contraception, treatment for infertility, and medical
alternatives to surgical procedures for sterilization and pregnancy
termination.

Dr. Hager's views of reproductive health care are far outside the
mainstream for reproductive technology. Dr. Hager is a practicing OB/GYN
who describes himself as "pro-life" and refuses to prescribe
contraceptives to unmarried women.

Hager is the author of "As Jesus Cared for Women: Restoring Women Then
and Now."  The book blends biblical accounts of Christ healing Women
with case studies from Hager's practice.

In the book Dr. Hager wrote with his wife, entitled "Stress and the
Woman's Body," he suggests that women who suffer from premenstrual
syndrome should seek help from reading the bible and praying. As an
editor and contributing author of "The Reproduction Revolution: A
Christian Appraisal of Sexuality Reproductive Technologies and the
Family," Dr. Hager appears to
have endorsed the medically inaccurate assertion that the common birth
control pill is an abortifacient. Hager's mission is religiously
motivated. He has an ardent interest in revoking approval for
mifepristone (formerly known as RU-486) as a safe and early form of
medical abortion. Hagar recently assisted the Christian Medical
Association in a "citizen's petition" which calls upon the FDA to revoke
its approval of mifepristone in the name of women's  health.

Hager's desire to overturn mifepristone's approval on religious grounds
rather than scientific merit would halt the development of mifepristone
as a treatment for numerous medical conditions disproportionately
affecting women, including breast cancer, uterine
cancer, uterine fibroid tumors, psychotic depression, bipolar depression
and Cushing's  syndrome.

Women rely on the FDA to ensure their access to safe and effective drugs
for reproductive health care including products that prevent pregnancy.
For some women, such as those with certain types of diabetes and those
undergoing treatment for cancer, pregnancy can be a life-threatening
condition.

We are concerned that Dr. Hager's strong religious beliefs may color his
assessment of technologies that are necessary to protect women's lives
or to preserve and promote women's health.

Hager's track record of using religious beliefs to guide his medical
decision-making makes him a dangerous and inappropriate candidate to
serve as chair of this committee. Critical drug public policy and
research must not be held hostage by antiabortion politics.

Members of this important panel should be appointed on the basis of
science and medicine, rather than politics and religion. American women
deserve no less.


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Palast: Blacking Out Ballots Across America

2004-08-09 Thread Michael Pollak
[Palast wrote a version of this article for The Nation in May, but this
one, published a month later, is much clearer, shorter and better written]
One million black votes didn't count in the 2000 presidential election
It's not too hard to get your vote lost -- if some politicians want it to
be lost!
San Francisco Chronicle, Sunday, June 20, 2004
by Greg Palast
In the 2000 presidential election, 1.9 million Americans cast ballots that
no one counted. "Spoiled votes" is the technical term. The pile of ballots
left to rot has a distinctly dark hue: About 1 million of them -- half of
the rejected ballots -- were cast by African Americans although black
voters make up only 12 percent of the electorate.
This year, it could get worse.
These ugly racial statistics are hidden away in the mathematical thickets
of the appendices to official reports coming out of the investigation of
ballot-box monkey business in Florida from the last go-'round.
How do you spoil 2 million ballots? Not by leaving them out of the fridge
too long. A stray mark, a jammed machine, a punch card punched twice will
do it. It's easy to lose your vote, especially when some politicians want
your vote lost.
While investigating the 2000 ballot count in Florida for BBC Television, I
saw firsthand how the spoilage game was played -- with black voters the
predetermined losers.
Florida's Gadsden County has the highest percentage of black voters in the
state -- and the highest spoilage rate. One in 8 votes cast there in 2000
was never counted. Many voters wrote in "Al Gore." Optical reading
machines rejected these because "Al" is a "stray mark."
By contrast, in neighboring Tallahassee, the capital, vote spoilage was
nearly zip; every vote counted. The difference? In Tallahassee's white-
majority county, voters placed their ballots directly into optical
scanners. If they added a stray mark, they received another ballot with
instructions to correct it.
In other words, in the white county, make a mistake and get another
ballot; in the black county, make a mistake, your ballot is tossed.
The U.S. Civil Rights Commission looked into the smelly pile of spoiled
ballots and concluded that, of the 179,855 ballots invalidated by Florida
officials, 53 percent were cast by black voters. In Florida, a black
citizen was 10 times as likely to have a vote rejected as a white voter.
But let's not get smug about Florida's Jim Crow spoilage rate. Civil
Rights Commissioner Christopher Edley, recently appointed dean of Boalt
Hall School of Law at UC Berkeley, took the Florida study nationwide. His
team discovered the uncomfortable fact that Florida is typical of the
nation.
Philip Klinkner, the statistician working on the Edley investigations,
concluded, "It appears that about half of all ballots spoiled in the
U.S.A. -- about 1 million votes -- were cast by nonwhite voters."
This "no count," as the Civil Rights Commission calls it, is no accident.
In Florida, for example, I discovered that technicians had warned Gov. Jeb
Bush's office well in advance of November 2000 of the racial bend in the
vote- count procedures.
Herein lies the problem. An apartheid vote-counting system is far from
politically neutral. Given that more than 90 percent of the black
electorate votes Democratic, had all the "spoiled" votes been tallied,
Gore would have taken Florida in a walk, not to mention fattening his
popular vote total nationwide. It's not surprising that the First
Brother's team, informed of impending rejection of black ballots, looked
away and whistled.
The ballot-box blackout is not the monopoly of one party. Cook County,
Ill., has one of the nation's worst spoilage rates. That's not surprising.
Boss Daley's Democratic machine, now his son's, survives by systematic
disenfranchisement of Chicago's black vote.
How can we fix it? First, let's shed the convenient excuses for vote
spoilage, such as a lack of voter education. One television network stated
as fact that Florida's black voters, newly registered and lacking
education, had difficulty with their ballots. In other words, blacks are
too dumb to vote.
This convenient racist excuse is dead wrong. After that disaster in
Gadsden, Fla., public outcry forced the government to change that black
county's procedures to match that of white counties. The result: near zero
spoilage in the 2002 election. Ballot design, machines and procedure, says
statistician Klinkner, control spoilage.
In other words, the vote counters, not the voters, are to blame.
Politicians who choose the type of ballot and the method of counting have
long fine-tuned the spoilage rate to their liking.
It is about to get worse. The ill-named "Help America Vote Act," signed by
President Bush in 2002, is pushing computerization of the ballot box.
California decertified some of Diebold Corp.'s digital ballot boxes in
response to fears that hackers could pick our next president. But the
known danger of black-box voting is that computers, even with their
software secure, ar

Re: [Marxism] Jonathan Schell on the DP's prowar stance

2004-08-08 Thread Michael Pollak
On Sun, 8 Aug 2004, Dan Scanlan wrote:
Moveon began in protest of the Clinton impeachment.  It began as a
letter that took a life of its own.
I'd like to know more about this. I've been asked to perform at a
benefit for MoveOn and need to decide.
There's an extensive profile of the MoveOn and their history in the
current LA Weekly:
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/37/features-bernhard.php
Michael


Re: [Marxism] Jonathan Schell on the DP's prowar stance

2004-08-08 Thread Michael Perelman
A Berkeley couple just sent out an email during the impeachment, appealing for
politics to moveon to more important stuff.  The letter took on a life of its own &
eventually began an to become an organization.  Soros gave them some money.

On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 11:32:37AM -0700, Dan Scanlan wrote:
> >Moveon began in protest of the Clinton impeachment.  It began as a
> >letter that took a
> >life of its own.
>
> Michael,
>
> I'd like to know more about this. I've been asked to perform at a
> benefit for MoveOn and need to decide. (I don't want to help fund a
> Kerry front.)
>
> Dan Scanlan

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monetarism & paranoia

2004-08-08 Thread Michael Perelman
So the Jobs Report Is Dismal. The Fed Has No Place to Go but Up. By JONATHAN
FUERBRINGER
New York Times
August 8, 2004
That will Fed policy makers do this week in the face of surprisingly weak job growth
in the last two months? Raise interest rates, of course.
Despite the awkward timing of the Fed meeting, so soon after Friday's report that
only 32,000 new jobs were created in July, the Fed has little maneuvering room. "The
Fed is going to raise rates," said Richard Yamarone, director of economic research at
Argus Research.  He said that one reason Alan Greenspan, the chairman of the Federal
Reserve, would go ahead was that "he has got to raise rates so he can cut them again
if there is a terrorist attack."



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In the News today

2004-08-08 Thread Michael Perelman
The Sacramento Bee juxtaposed to stories today, perhaps accidentally, regarding
hoaxes.  In one case, a young man who wanted to publicize his run for supervisor in
San Francisco faked his own beheading.  I understand that the authorities want to
punish him as severely as possible.

In the other story, Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger conspired to put off the
retreat from Saigon until after the 1972 election.  Countless people died from the
delay, yet Richard Nixon was rewarded with his reelection and Kissinger remains an
unindicted or criminal and successful pundit.



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on Venezuelan polls, etc

2004-08-08 Thread michael a. lebowitz


Re: Loath by the rich: Why Hugo Chavez is heading for a
stunning victory
by Perelman, Michael
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Right wing polls show Chavez loosing.  Isn't that correct,
Michael L?
With the possibility of fraud, can we really expect a victory?
---
Michael,
All recent
polls show Chavez being successful in beating off yet another attack by
the Right. (The most recent has the 'No' vote at 63%, and no polls will
be published after today.) Keeping in mind, though, the fact that in a
highly polarised situation, people (especially in Chavist barrios) may
not be revealing their real intentions (and remembering Nicaragua), it's
best to stress the importance of pessimism of the intellect, optimism of
the will. The latter is evidenced by the growing organisation of Chavists
at the base (unevenly, to be sure) and the determination not to let this
be stolen by fraud on 15A. A very strong statement from the April 13th
movement that the workers of the informal sector will view a defeat at
this point as fraud and a statement from the head of the steelworkers
that there will be a general strike and a cutting off of oil shipments in
the event of fraud point to likely developments if the 'Yes' vote comes
out on top.
And, now
comrades, I will put on my red 'No' shirt and will join the demonstration
that has begun to assemble (and which will probably continue to arrive
for a few more hours) in the vicinity of my apartment.
in
solidarity,
 
michael





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Re: Venezuela rightists falter

2004-08-08 Thread Perelman, Michael
With respect to this article, again, the polls here are supposed to be
close.  The Venezuela site says that they opposition polls show Chavez
winning.

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA
95929



Re: Loath by the rich: Why Hugo Chavez is heading for a stunning victory

2004-08-07 Thread Perelman, Michael
Right wing polls show Chavez loosing.  Isn't that correct, Michael L?
With the possibility of fraud, can we really expect a victory?


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Loath by the rich: Why Hugo Chavez is heading for a stunning victory

2004-08-07 Thread Michael Hoover
Loathed by the rich
Why Hugo Chavez is heading for a stunning victory
Richard Gott in Caracas
Saturday August 07 2004
The Guardian


To the dismay of opposition groups in Venezuela, and to the surprise of
international observers gathering in Caracas, President Hugo Chavez is
about to secure a stunning victory on August 15, in a referendum
designed to lead to his overthrow.

First elected in 1998 as a barely known colonel, armed with little more
than revolutionary rhetoric and a moderate social-democratic programme,
Chavez has become the leader of the emerging opposition in Latin America
to the neo-liberal hegemony of the United States. Closely allied to
Fidel Castro, he rivals the Cuban leader in his fierce denunciations of
George Bush, a strategy that goes down well with the great majority of
the population of Latin America, where only the elites welcome the
economic and political recipes devised in Washington.

While Chavez has retained his popularity after nearly six years as
president, support for overtly pro-US leaders in Latin America, such as
Vicente Fox in Mexico and Alejandro Toledo in Peru, has dwindled to
nothing. Even the fence-sitting President Lula in Brazil is struggling
in the polls. The news that Chavez will win this month's referendum will
be bleakly received in Washington.

Chavez came to power after the traditional political system in Venezuela
had self-destructed during the 1990s. But the remnants of the ancien
regime, notably those entrenched in the media, have kept up a steady
fight against him, in a country where racist antipathies inherited from
the colonial era are never far from the surface. Chavez, with his black
and Indian features and an accent that betrays his provincial origins,
goes down well in the shanty towns, but is loathed by those in the rich
white suburbs who fear he has mobilised the impoverished majority
against them.

The expected Chavez victory will be the opposition's third defeat in as
many years. The first two were dramatically counter-productive for his
opponents, since they only served to entrench him in power. An attempted
coup d'etat in April 2002, with fascist overtones reminiscent of the
Pinochet era in Chile, was defeated by an alliance of loyal officers and
civilian groups who mobilised spontaneously and successfully to demand
the return of their president.

The unexpected restoration of Chavez not only alerted the world to an
unusual leftwing, not to say revolutionary, experiment taking place in
Venezuela, but it also led the country's poor majority to understand
that they had a government and a president worth defending. Chavez was
able to dismiss senior officers opposed to his project of involving the
armed forces in programmes to help the poor, and removed the threat of a
further coup.

The second attempt at his overthrow - the prolonged work stoppage in
December 2002 which extended to a lockout at the state oil company,
Petroleos de Venezuela, nationalised since 1975 - also played into the
hands of the president. When the walkout (with its echoes of the
CIA-backed Chilean lorry owners' strike against Salvador Allende's
government in the early 1970s) failed, Chavez was able to sack the most
pampered sections of a privileged workforce. The company's huge surplus
oil revenues were redirected into imaginative new social programmes.
Innumerable projects, or "missions", were established throughout the
country, recalling the atmosphere of the early years of the Cuban
revolution. They combat illiteracy, provide further education for school
dropouts, promote employment, supply cheap food, and extend a free
medical service in the poor areas of the cities and the countryside,
with the help of 10,000 Cuban doctors. Redundant oil company buildings
have been commandeered to serve as the headquarters of a new university
for the poor, and oil money has been diverted to set up Vive, an
innovative cultural television channel that is already breaking the
traditional US mould of the Latin American media.

The opposition dismiss the new projects as "populist", a term
customarily used with pejorative intent by social scientists in Latin
America. Yet faced with the tragedy of extreme poverty and neglect in a
country with oil revenues to rival those of Saudi Arabia, it is
difficult to see why a democratically elected government should not
embark on crash programmes to help the most disadvantaged.

Their impact is about to be tested at the polls on August 15. Vote "Yes"
to eject Chavez from the presidency. Vote "No" to keep him there until
the next presidential election in 2006. The opposition, divided
politically and with no charismatic figure to rival Chavez to front
their campaign, continue to behave as though their victory is certain.
They discuss plans for a post-Chavez government, and watch closely the
ever-dubious and endlessly conflicting opinion polls, placing their
evaporating hopes on the "don't knows". They still imagine fondly that
they can achieve a victory 

Re: Tariq Ali on the US election

2004-08-07 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/07/04 1:27 PM >>>
Actually, Bush was a weak president until 9/11/01: a big inauguration
protest, Enron, unimpressive ratings, etc.  According to Fox, for
instance, Bush's approval rating during 1/24-25/01 was a mere 46%!
Yoshie
<<<<<>>>>>

pre-9/11: congress passed major bush tax cut, education, energy bills
(latter 2 after jeffords became ind and dems gained control of senate),
congress also passed bush's so-called 'bankruptcy reform', bush
abandoned kyoto treaty, bush signed regressive executive orders re.
abortion, labor, health care, among other things...

while 9/11 'made' bush presidency, dems and conservative media had
already allowed bush to get out from under stigma of being 'his
fraudulency 2' (rutherford hayes was called 'his fraudulency' through
term after winning 'corrupt bargain' election of 1876)...
michael hoover


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Re: Whither the Fed?

2004-08-07 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/07/04 2:11 AM >>>
>>... and make the next POTUS John Kerry a weak president without a
>>big mandate at the same time.)
>
>Is there a subtle flaw here?  If either Kerry or Bush is elected
>they will have a big mandate. It just won't be from the people, but
>the corporate purchasers. I fear the "people's mandate" can no
>longer be given through the present electoral process.
>
>Dan Scanlan

The larger the shares of popular votes for the Democratic and
Republican presidential candidates, the bigger the next POTUS's
mandate will be, though the mandate is more apparent than real, as
you say.
Yoshie
<<<<<>>>>>

notion (hesitate to call it theory) of presidential mandate is myth, of
course, myths can have powerful influence...

some occupants of white house start terms with more 'political capital'
than others (i.e., lbj began first full term with deep reservoir
following '64 landslide victory, gerald ford, on other hand, had little
after becoming prez because of 2 resignations - as if to confirm
latter's precarious position, reps loss of seats to dems in '74
congressional elections was large enough to result in smallest
congressional minority for sitting prez in 20th century *and* ford had
largest percentage of vetoes subjected to congressional override in
country's history)...

prez attempts to claim mandates are part of pseudo-democratization of
office, reagan claimed mandate following '80 election even though he
received just over 50% of 'popular' vote by pointing to number of states
he won and - more importantly - number of electoral college votes he
received (about 495 if memory serves), 'winner-take-all' distribution of
ec votes in 48 states gives some prez winners opportunities to claim
mandates by transforming small 'popular' majorities into 'super' ec
majorities...
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Re: Tariq Ali on the US election

2004-08-07 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/07/04 1:25 AM >>>
Before getting to the point of actually being able to split the
Democratic and Republican Parties, we need an intermediate goal: do
what we can to make the next POTUS a weak president, rather than a
strong one.  To do so, we need to decrease the shares of popular
votes that go to the Democratic and Republican presidential
candidates.
Yoshie
<<<<<>>>>>

what poli sci people called 'political capital' is mixture of public
approval & party seats in congress, kerry prez - almost by definition -
would be weak, win will likely be close, dems unlikely to regain control
of either congressional chamber (jfk campaign appears to have taken page
from '96 clinton playbook in that regard)...   michael hoover






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in defence of Tariq Ali

2004-08-07 Thread michael a. lebowitz


Tariq Ali has been criticised for the following statement in an
interview:
DH: You've said that a defeat of Bush would be regarded globally as
a
victory. What did you mean?

TA: As you know, I travel a great deal, and everywhere I go there is
growing
anger and if one can be totally blunt real hatred of this 
administration
because of what it did in Iraq - the war it waged, the civilians it
killed,
the mess it's made, and its inability to understand the scale of what
it's
done. And from that point of view, if the American population were to
vote
Bush out of office, the impact globally would be tremendous. People
would
say this guy took his country to war, surrounded by neocons who
developed
bogus arguments and lies, he lied to his people, he misused 
intelilgence
information, and the American people have voted him out. That in itself
could have a tremendous impact on world public opinion A defeat for
a
warmonger regime in Washington would be seen as a step forward. I don't
go
beyond that, but it would have an impact globally.

If
I were living in the States, I would not organise or vote for Kerry---
for the same reasons that people on the list have given--- although I'm
certain that I would prefer to be living under and organising against a
Kerry government than a Bush one. Why? Because of all the illusions
(about the good capitalist,etc party) that would be retained in the
absence of the former and the greater possibility for revealing the
nature of the system.
 But, I
wonder if this might not be a bit of a self-indulgent perspective when I
think about Tariq's statement. There's no question in my mind that in
Cuba (which I visit often) Bush's defeat would be regarded as a victory.
Similarly, in Venezuela (where I am) the end of a Bush government would
be welcomed. I suspect the same would have been true in El Salvador
recently among FMLN supporters (and in another time and setting in
Nicaragua). Conversely, the victory of Bush would be viewed as a big
defeat... and, indeed, as a mandate for new aggressive international
adventures. (Certainly, in Cuba they worry about the implications of a
new Bush mandate.) As I see the perspective of those outside the US
(which is what Tariq was addressing), the defeat of the Bush government
would be seen as providing a bit of space and a bit of hope. But, no
illusions. Simply the breathing space that comes when the rulers are
disrupted a bit.
    in
solidarity,

michael

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Economics Department
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re PPP comparisons

2004-08-07 Thread michael a. lebowitz


I
don't know anything myself about the way the PPP is constructed or the
neoclassical assumptions that Paul proposed were used. Intuitively,
though, it makes real sense to select the PPP measure (ie., something
that takes into account prices) over one using market exchange rates.
Eg., according to the dollar/cuban peso market exchange rate, we might
conclude that Cubans live on the equivalent of $20 USD per month. Anyone
think that tells us very much about the Cuban standard of living?
    michael
PPP comparisons
by sam pawlett
05 August 2004 14:54 UTC
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Take a simple example of Japan and the US.  Say the market
exchange rate


is 110 Yens = One US$. Now take an equivalent basket--in quantity
and


quality--that contains a burger with fries and a drink. It costs
450


Yens in Tokyo and US$ 2.50 in New York. The PPP exchange rate is
then


180 Yens = One US$ (450/2.50). There is nothing imaginary about the
PPP


exchange rate since it gives you the purchasing power of  a
country's


currency vis-a-vis the US dollar.





One thing I've never understood about PPP, is it an attempt to
measure
-what it is like living in a poor country- or is the idea more modest
as
the above paragraph suggests trying to demonstrate  what the
market
equivalent amount of currency buys in a given country? For example the
PPP GDP or GNP per capita of a country is $US 500. Does this mean that
living in that country on that given amount of money is like living in
the USA on the same amount of money?

 PPP (and the averaging and aggregating that goes on) can be
misleading.A string sampling bias exists. There are no price
differences
between countries in goods and services that are offered by MNC's. The
costs of Mcdonalds,Bechtel water, Enron nat. gas, or a Blockbuster
video
is the same across geographical space with very limited differential.
The IMF and its coat-tailers always (and ,yes, still) say that the most
important economic fundamental is getting prices right. The right price
or international market price always seems to be what the good or
service costs in the USA. How could it be otherwise, inflation always
exists and the bulk of demand  for the goods and services offered
by
MNC's is still in the North hemisphere. Ultimately, the WTO project
gets
more goods and services  to cost what they cost in the USA and
Europe.
And as that happens, people's access to those goods and services
becomes
more limited, Bechtel water in South Africa for example.

  The products offered by local or import substituting businesses
cost
much less. The marlboro, pizza hut or coca-cola knockoff costs %25 as
much. The more foreign based products it counts in its basket of goods,
the bigger the PPP number will be.  As the world becomes globalized
and
the stricter that gov'ts enforce WTO rules, the Atlas rather than ppp
will come closer to the truth especially with imports and exports being
priced in US dollars and the ongoing dollarization of world economies.
I
don't think this is an unimportant quibble, as it represents trends
sometimes called combined and uneven development.

Sam Pawlett




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Re: Tariq Ali on the US election

2004-08-06 Thread Michael Perelman
Good people disagree on the Nader/Kerry decision.  I think that we all know the
rationale for each choice.  I don't think that either side comes out well, if you
only look at what some of their supporters have done -- denying Nader his right to
run through dirty tricks or cavorting with the right.
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Re: Tariq Ali on the US election

2004-08-06 Thread Michael Perelman
I don't see any more reason to demonize ABB people than to demonize Nader people.
Both sides see themselves as promoting the left albeit by different routes.

On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 09:05:05PM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:

> Despite my problems with State Capitalist ideology, I feel much more of
> an affinity for Todd Chretien--the California petition coordinator for
> Nader-Camejo and ISO member--than I do for Bob McChesney, the long time
> MR figure. Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass what McChesney thinks about
> Cuba if he can't get this Kerry thing right.
>
>
> --
> Marxism list: www.marxmail.org

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Re: China's migrant refuseniks

2004-08-06 Thread Perelman, Michael
This is a very fascinating article, displaying the contradictions in
Chinese development on a far deeper level than the loud discussion that
followed the mention of the article by Marty & Paul.

At first it did not make sense at all.  How could China have great
unemployment & a shortage of workers?  Then we see that the public
sector has fallen down on the job of educating the workforce. And to
give a fair deal to farmers upsets the applecart.

Some time ago, Johnathan posted an article about the 10 contradictions
in Chinese development.  I think that it might be time to look at the
sort of contradictions that could have been avoided under socialism and
how they might play out under capitalism.

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA
95929



New way to escape the draft

2004-08-06 Thread Perelman, Michael
NewsScan Daily, 6 August 2004 ("Above The Fold")

FINLAND DISMISSING 'NET-ADDICTED' CONSCRIPTS
 A growing number of conscripts have to be dismissed from Finland's
armed forces every year due to an Internet addiction that makes them
unsuited for service. A Finnish official says: "It's an increasing
problem.
More and more young people are always on the Internet day and night.
They
get up around noon and have neither friends nor hobbies. When they get
into
the army, it's a shock to them." There are no specific figures and the
military has yet to give the condition a proper dismissal code in its
health
records. (The Age, 4 Aug 2004) Rec'd from J Lamp
http://theage.com.au/articles/2004/08/04/1091557883381.html


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Call for Papers: New Working Class Studies

2004-08-05 Thread Michael Hoover
CALL FOR PAPERS

NEW WORKING-CLASS STUDIES: PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE

The 10th Aniversary Conference of the Center for Working-Class Studies
at
Youngstown State University, May 18-21, 2005, Youngstown, Ohio

In 2005, the Center for Working-Class Studies will celebrate the 10th
anniversary of its founding.  In honor of that occasion, we are planning
a
conference that will reflect the diversity, creativity, and energy of
New
Working-Class Studies.  The conference will feature plenary sessions
reflecting on the development of the field, taking stock of where we
stand
today, and looking ahead to new possibilities and challenges.  Our
conferences always include arts exhibits, film screenings, poetry
readings,
and other events.  The 2005 conference, co-sponsored by the Ford
Foundation,
will also include a business meeting of the Working-Class Studies
Association.

We invite proposals from students, workers, faculty members, organizers,
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PartyBuilder - August 2004

2004-08-05 Thread Michael Hoover
PARTYBUILDER - August 2004
IN THIS ISSUE:
DC LABOR FILM FEST - AD DEADLINE AUGUST 10TH!
CNA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ROSE ANN DEMORO SPEAKS OUT ON HEALTH CARE
THE MEDICARE DRUG WAR
DO FAT CATS PAY LOWER TAX RATES THAN WORKERS?
FREE HIGHER ED CAMPAIGN NEWS

DC LABOR FILM FEST - AD DEADLINE AUGUST 10TH!
The 2004 DC Labor FilmFest is scheduled for September 10-12 at the
American Film Institute's Silver Theater. The festival opens with a 15th
anniversary screening of Michael Moore's first film, "Roger and Me" and
closes with a new print of the classic 1969 Marlon Brando film "Burn!"
In between are five brand new films chronicling coal miners in China
(Blind Shaft), a "post-industrial, pre-apocalyptic, existential comedy"
(Human Error) as well as the premiere of concert film "Tell Us the
Truth." The November 2003 musical tour featuring Billy Bragg and Steve
Earle called attention to issues of media consolidation and trade
policy.

We need your support! It's not too late to support the FilmFest with an
ad from your union or organization in the Festival Guide.
Ad space is available at the following rates:
Friend of the Festival: $100
Quarter page: $250
Half page: $500
Full page: $1,000
Silver Screen Page: $2,500

Please call DJDI at 202 234-0040 x13 to reserve your ad.
Many thanks to our Labor Party affiliates and supporters for ads already
placed. For more information, click here:
www.djdinstitute.org/f_index.html

CNA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ROSE ANN DEMORO SPEAKS OUT ON HEALTH CARE
In a recent guest commentary in the "Contra Costa Times," Rose Ann
DeMoro, executive director of the California Nurses Association (a Labor
Party affiliate) charges that it is "time to get serious on health
care." DeMoro argues that "Verbal commitments to universal health care
are for some a charade, a cover for tinkering with the current system to
avoid substantive change. Typical of such ideas is the notion that
people without employer-provided benefits be required to purchase
insurance, subsidized for the low income through tax credits, without
any financial contribution by the HMOs and insurance giants that would
reap gain." Read the full article at www.justhealthcare.org. Click here.


THE MEDICARE DRUG WAR
The pharmaceutical and managed care industries spent a record $141
million in 2003 to lobby Congress for last year's Medicare prescription
drug legislation. According to "The Medicare Drug War," a new report by
Public Citizen, the new law may increase those industries' revenues by
as much as $531.5 billion. The army of 952 lobbyists (nearly 10 for each
U.S. Senator) helped ensure that the new drug benefit will be
administered by private companies. The new law expressly prohibits the
government from using its bargaining clout to negotiate lower prices and
effectively bans the "reimportation" of cheaper drugs from Canada. For
more information and to download the report, visit www.citizen.org.
Click here

DO FAT CATS PAY LOWER TAX RATES THAN WORKERS?
Thanks in part to George W. Bush's recent cut in the top tax rate on
dividends and capital gains, the average tax rate workers pay on wages
is more than DOUBLE the rate on investment income. According to Citizens
for Tax Justice (CTJ) and the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy
(ITEP), federal personal taxes on investment income now average only 9.6
percent, while federal personal taxes on wages and other earnings
average 23.4 percent. Before Ronald Reagan took office, the top income
tax rate on most investment income was 70 percent. The top capital gains
tax rate, now 15 percent, was more than 35 percent.

ITEP's analysis estimates that "taxing investment income like earnings
would raise $338 billion in 2004 enough to cut this year's budget
deficit by two-thirds or more." Or enough to fund free higher education
several times over or enough to fund a substantial part of a Just Health
Care budget. For more information, www.ctj.org. Click here

FREE HIGHER ED CAMPAIGN NEWS
The July/August 2004 issue of "ACADEME" the bulletin of the American
Association of University Professors (AAUP) features the article "Free
Higher Education" by campaign co-chair Adolph Reed Jr. and Sharon
Syzmanski, an economist with the Labor Institute. The bulletin is
distributed to every member of the AAUP nationwide. The AAUP's
Collective Bargaining Congress has endorsed the Free Higher Ed campaign.


AAUP also invited Reed to present a workshop on the campaign at its
Summer Institute at the University of Scranton on July 31st. The
workshop was well received by AAUP members from around the country and
was an opportunity to introduce AAUP members outside the collective
bargaining section to our campaign. Visit our website at
www.freehighered.org

ABOUT THE LABOR PARTY
The Labor Party is a national organization made up of international
unions and

Re: What is the total wealth ?

2004-08-04 Thread Michael Perelman
Of course, the current thinking is that it is human capital that is responsible for 
most of
the productivity.  Has anybody made a recent estimate of the aggregate human capital?

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 12:06:08PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
>
> Another approach. According to the BEA, the value of fixed
> reproducible tangible wealth (including consumer durables) in the
> U.S. was $32.8 trillion in 2002. (Note that the rate of return on
> those assets implied by GDP is a lot higher than Julio's estimate -
> around 30%.) That year, according to World Bank stats, the U.S. had
> 32% of world GDP. So, scaling up based on that income share, we can
> estimate that the global capital stock is worth $102.1 trillion - or
> roughly $16,000 per capita.
>
> Doug

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Re: What is the total wealth ?

2004-08-04 Thread Michael Perelman
Right, they should teach that marginal productivity theory created economic justice 
because
everybody got rewarded according to their marginal product.  Sraffa proved that it was 
BS.
Samuelson and others attempted to refute him, but were unsuccessful.  Solow said that 
it
was a tempest in a teapot.  Now nobody cares, but they continue to teach the same BS.

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 12:07:17PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
>
> Yeah, but nobody cares about that anymore. It was an obsession of
> some weirdos in England a generation ago, but we've moved beyond that
> now.
>
> Doug

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Re: Walmart costs California

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Perelman
The labor center was singled out by Arnold for extinction, although the Dems made him
fund the certer.  The construction industry is especially hostile to the center.

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 08:07:07PM -0700, Devine, James wrote:
> >Wal-Mart questioned the validity of the report, saying the authors
> undervalued the wages and benefits the chain's employees receive.
> The UC report comes from the Berkeley Labor Center, an institute that is
> openly supportive of union causes. Although its researchers have in the past
> accepted funding from the grocery workers' union to conduct studies, this
> report was not funded by labor, its authors said.<
>
> "_openly_ supportive of union causes"? do they ever say "openly
> supportive of corporate causes"? is Labor is such bad shape that
> it's a market of shame to support it?
>
> Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
>
>

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The Women of Crawford Have a Secret

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Hoover
http://www.bushvchoice.com/trailer/crawford.swf

Find out how these successful, driven women could swing the election
and help bring the end of a woman's right to choose -- without saying a
word.

Produced by:  NARAL Pro-Choice America, Inc.
www.ProChoiceAmerica.org



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Re: No Bounce for Kerry

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Perelman
When has a person in the debates been called a vanity candidate before.  The singing
schtick was stupid, though.

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 04:32:11PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
> Michael Perelman wrote:
>
> >Kucinich had no money supporting him
>
> C'mon - he was in the debates, he was on the road a lot. He should
> have done better than, what?, 2% of the primary vote.
>
> Doug

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Re: No Bounce for Kerry

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/04 3:52 PM >>>
If there's a great untapped reservoir of leftish populism in the
American masses, why did Kucinich do so badly in the primaries, and
why is Nader now down around 2%?
Doug

uhhh, who said anything about 'untapped reservoir of leftish populism'
(whatever that is)...

come now doug, you know answers to above questions...

however, 'conventional wisdom'  holds that dem positions on  civil
rights/civil liberties issues began to alienate white working class in
late 1960s, race ostensibly drove  wedge between white and non-white
working workers with resultant diminution of class voting, such analysis
is mostly based upon assessments using self-identified class, this
measure fails to address voter economic circumstances, analysis relying
upon relative income situation of voters reflects relative level of
resources folks have, results show increasing support among less
affluent for dems, differences in voting by income position (social
class) have been increasing, not decreasing...

mainstream poli sci guy jeffrey stonecash uses nes data - see his _class
and party in american politics_  - to show that *even in south* white
working class voters remain more likely to vote dem than more affluent
white voters, big problem is relative scarcity of white working class
turnout in south (condition exacerbated nationally by similar scarcity
at polls among all workin people)...michael hoover


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Re: No Bounce for Kerry

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Perelman
Kucinich had no money supporting him; Kerry has an "organize" (well, well-funded)
party.  Gore's support picked up when he did populism, so would Kerry's.  All he had
to do was to take Edwards' 2-America's riff a bit further.


On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 03:52:16PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
> If there's a great untapped reservoir of leftish populism in the
> American masses, why did Kucinich do so badly in the primaries, and
> why is Nader now down around 2%?
>
> Doug

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Re: No Bounce for Kerry

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Perelman
The strategy guarentees that Kerry will have no coattails.

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 03:32:47PM -0400, Michael Hoover wrote:
>
> re. dem/kerry strategy, elections are mechanisms of social control,
> narrow kerry win
> will actually be narrow bush loss, kerry's people think this can happen
> with existing likely electorate which, of course, means doing nothing to
> get more folks to vote, result will be few 'progressive' expectations of
> kerry administration...michael hoover
>

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Re: No Bounce for Kerry

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/04 12:28 AM >>>
I was struck by the same thing as Michael H.  I doubt that they will
reciprocate for
the Dems.

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 12:24:33AM -0400, Michael Hoover wrote:
>
> related point: tv media abandoned past convention coverage in giving
> reps so many opportunities to sprinkle on dem parade...michael
> hoover

Also, I have never heard of any competitive contest where you aim to
just get over
the hump.  Sounds like a stupid strategy.
Michael Perelman
<<<<<>>>>>

meant to write in previous post that conservative media set up dems on
bounce by giving rep talking heads pre-convention opportunities to talk
about how kerry would probably get double digit post-convention bump...

re. dem/kerry strategy, elections are mechanisms of social control,
narrow kerry win
will actually be narrow bush loss, kerry's people think this can happen
with existing likely electorate which, of course, means doing nothing to
get more folks to vote, result will be few 'progressive' expectations of
kerry administration...michael hoover




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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Perelman
End of thread!  Why can you just discuss things without getting nasty and bringing up
material from other lists?
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Re: No Bounce for Kerry

2004-08-02 Thread Michael Perelman
I was struck by the same thing as Michael H.  I doubt that they will reciprocate for
the Dems.

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 12:24:33AM -0400, Michael Hoover wrote:
>
> related point: tv media abandoned past convention coverage in giving
> reps so many opportunities to sprinkle on dem parade...    michael
> hoover

Also, I have never heard of any competitive contest where you aim to just get over
the hump.  Sounds like a stupid strategy.

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Re: No Bounce for Kerry

2004-08-02 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/04 6:22 PM >>>
"No Bounce for Kerry":
<<<<<>>>>>

bounce thing is extremely overrated, has had little relation to
electoral winner, if memory serves, with exception of clinton in 92,
candidates with biggest bounces have lost (and carter almost lost), most
have been dems...

in any event, room for bounce this year was negligible if poll numbers
can be believed,
bush, kerry, nader numbers leave few undecideds...

kerry people appear to believe that they can beat bush (just barely) on
issues except for 'security', poll numbers going into convention
indicated solid bush lead in that area, dems seem to think that if they
simply say things about 'making 'america stronger', 'protecting
homeland', and 'destroying terrorists' enough times they will whittle
away at bush in this area (all the while blathering on about kerry's
wartime mettle, blah, blah, blah)...

strategy suggests that kerry people hope to barely make it over hump in
november,
strategy also conveys that kerry campaign is absent any other appeals,
has attractiveness of flagpole sitting in drawing attention to drab
man...

related point: tv media abandoned past convention coverage in giving
reps so many opportunities to sprinkle on dem parade...michael
hoover




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Re: The Soviet "empire" was a drain on Moscow

2004-08-02 Thread Michael Perelman
Schumpeter made that argument in his essay, Imperialism.

On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 06:57:20AM -0700, Devine, James wrote:
>
> Some scholars (sorry, I don't have the reference here) argue that even the British 
> empire wasn't profitable for Britain as a whole. But it clearly benefited the upper 
> classes, who were more important in decision-making.
>
> Jim Devine

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Re: The Soviet "empire" was a drain on Moscow

2004-08-02 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/2/2004 11:16:33 AM >>>
Put another way, to label the U.S. and the USSR with the same label,
"empire" -- and hence to suggest that there is some analogy between
the
relationship "USSR/Cuba" and "US/Puerto Rico" -- is just too violent
an
abstraction, it leaves too little material content to what we mean
when
we speak of empire.
Carrol
<<<<>>>>

paraphrase of what i wrote in 'secolas annals' (journal of southeastern
council on latin american studies) twenty years ago:

much was made of cuba's 'dependency' on soviet union...[but]...
cuban-soviet relations did not resemble typical dominance-dependence
arrangements, soviet aid strengthened rather than weakened cuba's
national control of its economy, further, soviets protected cuba from
fluctuations in world market prices of sugar and nickel, insured cuba
continual oil supplies, and generally stayed out of cuban political
affairs...
michael hoover

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God supports communism

2004-08-01 Thread Michael Perelman
I found this on Risk Digest as well

Cosmic ray hits Brussels election - really?
<"Dirk Fieldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:04:14 +0100

John Miller, Dow Jones Newswires (07/26/04); seen via ACM Tech News:
  http://www.acm.org/technews/articles/2004-6/0728w.html#item1

"European citizens and governments generally prefer traditional
paper-based voting because of unresolved reliability and security issues
surrounding electronic voting. ...
[DF comment: what a fair summary, and in the UK issues are also being
raised by the extension of postal paper voting]
... Fueling the arguments of paper ballot supporters are incidents such as
a 2003 Belgian election in which almost 4,100 extra votes for Maria
Vindevoghel's Communist Party were recorded in a precinct of Brussels due
to a malfunction triggered by a cosmic ray. ..."

I found this jaw-dropping -- not the possibility of a cosmic ray causing a
computer malfunction, which is an obvious threat for space-borne systems,
but how such an apparently unrepeatable external event could be accepted as
the cause of a terrestrial computer malfunction. The lack of any
confirmation through Google seems to support my astonishment. Can the select
RISKS readership confirm whether this actually occurred, or is it an urban
legend?




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privacy

2004-08-01 Thread Michael Perelman
I just found this on Risks Digest.

[http://www.odci.gov/cia/notices.html#priv]


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Re: welcome to the banana republic

2004-08-01 Thread Perelman, Michael
If the dollar fell the way suggested here, how would the E. Asian
economies survive?  Wouldn't it cause financial turmoil?  If they sold
their US assets to finance deficits, wouldn't that cause high interest
rates in the US?   We have a serious case of co-dependency.

Michael Perelman
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95929

 



back to PPP comparisons

2004-08-01 Thread michael a. lebowitz


I have just received some comments from a former colleague on the
questions posed about the use of PPP. They include his comments in a
letter plus an attachment which I have copied into the text below.
    in solidarity,
  michael
-
He writes:
I beg to disagree with the idea that the PPP method is
"imaginary" and the Atlas method is "actual". 
As I explain in the attachment, the PPP exchange rate takes into account
the price difference of goods and services between countries,or the
purchasing power of  a country's currency vis-a-vis the currencies
of other countries (or the US dollar), whereas the market exchange rate
does not take into account the price difference.
Take a simple example of Japan and the US.  Say the market exchange
rate is 110 Yens = One US$. Now take an equivalent basket--in quantity
and quality--that contains a burger with fries and a drink. It costs 450
Yens in Tokyo and US$ 2.50 in New York. The PPP exchange rate is then 180
Yens = One US$ (450/2.50). There is nothing imaginary about the PPP
exchange rate since it gives you the purchasing power of  a
country's currency vis-a-vis the US dollar.
The important point is that the market exchange rate seems to be a valid
conversion factor for settling payments between countries on account of
trade, debt, aid, etc. and the PPP exchange rate seems to be a valid
conversion factor for comparing the "standard of living"
of  people in different countries.
Now please turn to the data shown in my attachment Table. In the GNI
differences between the high income and middle + low income economies for
any year (1996, 1998, or 2002), our focus should be on the ratios
of  the GNI of high income countries to the GNI of middle + low
income countries under the Atlas and PPP methods separately. I see little
change in the ratios between 1996 and 2002: the GNI gap between the high
income countries and the middle + low income countries does not change
over time (compare the 1996 and 2002 data).
GNI (Atlas Method): in 1996 the ratio is 4.41 to 1.00 and in 2002 the
ratio is 4.18 to 1.00.
GNI (PPP Method): in 1996 the ratio is 1.36 to 1.00 and in 2002 the ratio
is 1.30 to 1.00.
The fact that the ratios of GNI between the high income and middle + low
income countries in each year differ so much under the two methods is
simply because the Atlas Method does not take into account the price
differences between countries and PPP Method does. There is no indication
that the income gap between the rich and poor countries has narrowed.
However, the income gap is larger with the market exchange rate compared
to the income gap with the PPP exchange rate.

The attachment:
Gross National Income (GNI) of Countries, 1996, 1998,
2002 

GNI (Atlas
Method)
GNI (PPP Method)
 
Billion US
Dollars  
Billion US Dollars

Economy

1996  
1998  
2002  
1996  
1998  
2002
 
 
High
Income 
23,772   
22,592   
25,596   
20,574   
20,745    27,516
Middle
Income
4,141 
4,401 
5,056 
8,305 
8,834    15,884
Low
Income
1,597 
1,842 
1,070 
6,809 
7,678  5,269
 
World   
29,510   
28,835   
31,720   
35,688   
37,136    48,462
 
 
Source: World Bank, World Development Indicators, 1998,
2000, 2004.
 
Notes:
 
1. Definitions:
 
· Gross National
Income (GNI) = GDP plus net receipts of primary income (wages
and salaries plus property income) from abroad. GNI is a new term
used for the good old Gross National product (GNP): GNI and GNP have the
same formula.
· Gross Domestic
Product (GDP) = Sum of value added by all resident producers
plus any product taxes (less subsidies) not included in the
valuation of output.
 
2. Internationally Comparable Values of GNI and
GDP:[1]
 
  The World Bank uses two methods for
estimating internationally comparable values of GNI and GDP.
 
· The Atlas
Method: Each country’s GNI and GDP estimates (made in local currency)
are converted by using the “market” exchange rate for its currency in US
dollars. The market exchange rate between currencies is a product of
several factors, including trade and capital flows. It is used for
financial transactions between countries (trade, debt services,
etc.). It should not be used to compare the GNI and GDP of countries
in the context of differences in their standard of living because the
market exchange rate does not take into account the price
difference between countries for goods and services.
 
· The Purchasing Power
Parity (PPP) Method: The PPP exchange rate is s

Re: Jeffrey Sachs, Accenture, Columbia University

2004-08-01 Thread Michael Perelman
I'm sure that for some work outsourcing does provide excellent quality, but my
personal experience with outsourcing comes from contacting help desks.  Not only is
the line quality poor, impeding communication, but the help desks are not
particularly helpful.  My guess is that because these jobs are very desirable, the
workers accept a very tight scripting.  As a result, they are very unhelpful unless
your question is fully anticipated.

On the other hand, I have had very good experience asking questions of techies from
domestic help desks, who seem to [have the freedom to] enjoy the challenge of a
complex question.

The artificial offshoring of moving a company to Bermuda is despicable on all counts.

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Chechnya

2004-08-01 Thread Michael Perelman
Maybe we have played out this whole question of ethnic divisions.
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Re: A Question for the Moderator- race, ideology and the right thing to do.

2004-08-01 Thread Michael Perelman
Melvyn's story about his dealings with the red necks at the workplace illustrate the
degree of skill required to navigate the class divide.  No easy answers in this
regard.
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Re: Socialism of fools

2004-07-31 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/31/04 7:59 PM >>>
above is one of those quotes that floats around, that people cite and
never indicate source, few folks probably have any idea its origins and
many/most who reference it have probably never read it in english as i
don't believe text has ever been translated from the german...

phrase is from 10/27/1893 party congress speech that bebel made (think
it appears in german as 'anti-semitism and social democracy'), what
bebel termed 'socialism of fools' was specific reference to
*anti-semitic populism*, bebel's speech is essentially about SPD having
to make choice between urban working class and rural peasantry, he
favored former and congress overwhelmingly voted that way, one
consequence was that party would become increasingly detached from rural
population, bebel's position is pretty conventional marxist
interpretation of 'progressive tendency' of capitalist development...
michael hoover
<<<<<>>>>>

oops, my source for above is nicholas stargardt's _the german idea of
militarism : radical and socialist critics, 1866-1914_...  mh




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Re: Socialism of fools

2004-07-31 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/31/04 12:10 PM >>>
I recently quoted Fred Engels as referring to anti-semitism as the
"socialism of fools."
 Pen-l alumnus Jurriaan Bendien writes me that: >From memory the
"socialism of fools" remark was by August Bebel, circa 1873.<
 I guess I sit corrected, though I couldn't find the quote from Bebel's
mouth.
 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<<<<<>>>>>

above is one of those quotes that floats around, that people cite and
never indicate source, few folks probably have any idea its origins and
many/most who reference it have probably never read it in english as i
don't believe text has ever been translated from the german...

phrase is from 10/27/1893 party congress speech that bebel made (think
it appears in german as 'anti-semitism and social democracy'), what
bebel termed 'socialism of fools' was specific reference to
*anti-semitic populism*, bebel's speech is essentially about SPD having
to make choice between urban working class and rural peasantry, he
favored former and congress overwhelmingly voted that way, one
consequence was that party would become increasingly detached from rural
population, bebel's position is pretty conventional marxist
interpretation of 'progressive tendency' of capitalist development...
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Re: A Question for the Moderator

2004-07-31 Thread Michael Perelman
Melvyn posed posed one of the truly difficult challenges that the left faces:
learning how to learn from the masses at the same time as we supply them with
information.  Listening is a very difficult skill.  I remember trying to speak with
the boyfriend of my first wife's mother.  He worked in a gas station.  He was not
stupid, but he was angry.  He directed much of this anger at Blacks, but I think he
was racist.  He just had this anger and he did not know where to direct it.

Fortunately, I just read a wonderful book -- The Hidden Injuries of Class -- which
helped me to translate some of his words into what he was really thinking rather than
to come down on him as a stupid racist.  I do not pretend to be entirely successful.
Usually the discussion would get to a degree of rationality, but then would return to
the same ugly spot the next time we would meet.

In a way, Melvyn is at a great advantage, coming from his experience as an auto
worker, an environment that has a long history militancy, both intellectual and
practical.  But he is absolutely correct in realizing that Bush is much more
effective than speaking to the working-class family on the left.  I wish it were
otherwise.

On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 04:36:05PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Don't get me wrong. . . I love books . . . but a segment of  the so-called
> Marxist intellegincia have not asked people what they actually  think and feel.

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Re: A Question for the Moderator

2004-07-31 Thread michael
This was the problem that I was referring to when I was trying to
describe a progression of fragmentations.  I first began to think about
this sort of problem when Lebanon began to fall apart.   At first, it
seemed to be a religious division, but then I began to realize that
there were divisions within each religion that were made each others
throats.  The situation seemed like a fractal to me.
Chris Doss wrote:
Who gets to determine Chechnya's status? People who
live in Chechnya? In 1991, Grozny's population was
about 50% non-Chechen. The Nautsky district in
Chechnya was about 75% non-Chechen, mostly Russians,
Ukrainians and Cossacks who lived there since the 15th
century. Those people have almost entirely fled, been
forced out, or killed. None of them would have voted
for an independent Chechnya. Do their voices matter?

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Promoting paranoia

2004-07-31 Thread Michael Perelman
Our local police department wants to get some money from the Homeland Security
Department.  The only catch is that they have to prove that we have terrorists in our
midst.  I assume that as police departments throughout the country compete for this
money, the feds will have convincing evidence that the terrorists have thoroughly
infiltrated every nook and cranny of our great land.


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book review: Welfare and the Constitution

2004-07-31 Thread Michael Hoover
>From the Law and Politics Book Review

WELFARE AND THE CONSTITUTION, by Sotirios A. Barber. Princeton, New
Jersey: Princeton University Press, 2004. 184pp. Cloth  $27.95 / £17.95.
ISBN: 0-691-11448-X
Reviewed By Ronald Kahn, Department of Politics, Oberlin College.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.bsos.umd.edu/gvpt/lpbr/subpages/reviews/barber704.htm

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Re: [Marxism] Jonathan Schell on the DP's prowar stance

2004-07-31 Thread Michael Perelman
Moveon began in protest of the Clinton impeachment.  It began as a letter that took a
life of its own.


On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 12:29:41PM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
> Devine, James wrote:
> > did the DP create Moveon.org? my impression is that its leaders created it and 
> > then moved into the DP orbit on their own.
>
> I wasn't clear enough. Moveon.org was created by people who wanted a
> "respectable" alternative to the antiwar movement. It then morphed into
> Howard Dean's collection agency and is now nothing but an arm of the
> Democratic Party.
>
>
>
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Re: JEP

2004-07-31 Thread Michael Perelman
Shleifer is the editor; DeLong is gone.  So the journal has become more technical,
less topical.  Its beauty, especially under Stiglitz, was that it could keep
non-specialists informed about different fields and truly offer different, even
dissident, perspectives.

On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 08:47:51AM -0700, Devine, James wrote:
> [was RE: [PEN-L] Deeper Problems for Shleifer]
>
> Michael writes: >Does anybody niotice the rapid decline in the Journal of Economic
> Perspectives?  A right winger will take over the Journal of Economc
> Literature. <
>
> I haven't been paying attention. Why do you think that the JEP is in decline? why do 
> you think it went into that tailspin? who is the editor? is it still Brad deLong?
>
> who's taking over the JEL? replacing whom?
>
> jim d
>
>

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Microsof on Intellectual Property

2004-07-30 Thread michael perelman
Lohr, Steve. 2004. "Pursuing Growth, Microsoft Steps Up Patent Chase."
New York Times (30 July).
"Microsoft said on Thursday that it planned to increase its storehouse
of intellectual property by filing 50 percent more patent applications
over the next year than in the previous 12 months.  Microsoft, the
world's largest software company, increasingly regards the legal
protection of its programming ideas as essential to safeguarding its
growth opportunities."
"Speaking at the company's yearly meeting with financial analysts, Bill
Gates, the company's chairman, called patents a "very important part" of
what he termed the "cycle of innovation" that has been responsible for
Microsoft's past prosperity and continued corporate health."
"Microsoft's stepped-up patent program, analysts say, will be watched
closely in the industry to see if the company uses it mainly as a
defensive tactic or as an offensive weapon to try to slow the spread of
open source products."
"Microsoft, Mr. Gates said, intends to file more than 3,000 patents in
its 2005 fiscal year, which began this month, up from about 2,000 patent
filings in fiscal 2004.  It typically takes three years or more before a
filed patent is approved.  Today, Microsoft trails well behind I.B.M.
and several other hardware makers in the size of its patent portfolio."
"Mr. Gates cited research showing Microsoft patents are cited as "prior
art," or examples of existing knowledge, in other patent filings
somewhat more often than the patents of other technology companies,
including Oracle, Sun Microsystems, Apple and I.B.M."


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Iran more democratic, liberal than Pakistan?

2004-07-30 Thread michael
akistan at the behest of the CIA. The idea was
to create a generation of Islamist warriors as a bulwark against
communism and socialism, both in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Today the chickens have come home to roost, and people like Bulliet fail
to give credit where it's due. I would expect this article from someone
like Christopher Hitchens or Bernard Henry Levy, who are deliberately
inaccurate, but it was unexpected of a tenured professor of history at
Columbia University to so shamelessly distort the truth in an election
year.
Thankfully there are fairer people in the US who have very different
conclusions about the Muslim world. The key to the democratic transition
in the Muslim world lies in a country like Pakistan, which has the
potential of becoming a modern and pluralistic democracy. Perhaps
Bulliet should read something by people who actually know something
about Pakistan like William Milam, Stephen Cohen, Dennis Kux, Robert
Oakley, John L. Esposito and Stanley Wolpert, than regurgitating
half-truths of people like Hitchens and Bernard Henry Levy.
Yasser Latif Hamdani Lahore, Pakistan
Copyright (c) 2004 The Daily Star
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Deeper Problems for Shleifer

2004-07-30 Thread michael
d Elizabeth Hebert (Hay's then-girlfriend, now his wife).
US Attorney Donald Stern said at the time that his office had
contemplated criminal charges but filed none.
Judge Woodlock quickly dismissed the charges against Zimmerman and
Hebert, on grounds that neither worked for Harvard or the government and
were not parties to the contract.
As previously reported, Harvard at one point offered to settle its part
of the case for as much as $24 million, or two-thirds the value of its
contract, in the course of an unsuccessful mediation by Judge David
Mazzone, according to attorneys familiar with the case. Now that the
government's claim to treble damages has failed, the offer, whatever it
was, will have long-since disappeared from the table.
Shleifer, who left Russia with his parents when he was 15, only to
return as a senior adviser to its government (and a distinguished
economist) at the age of 30, remains a Harvard professor.
Until last year, he was a principal of LSV Asset Management, a money
management firm for institutional investors that, with fellow economist
Robert Vishny and Josef Lakonishok, he co-founded in 1991.
His attorney, Earl Nemser, told Marcella Bombardieri of The Boston
Globe, "We're pleased now that most of the claims in the case, and
against Andrei Shleifer, have been dismissed. We expect the remaining
claims will be disposed of favorably to him."
Jonathan Hay, who became a student of Shleifer's while at Harvard Law
School, joined the London office of the Cleary Gottlieb law firm as an
associate in 2002.
An initial hearing on the damages phase of the trial may be held as
early as July 19. Extensive arguments about the ultimate success or
failure of Harvard's Russia Project eventually can be expected from all
sides.
Judge Woodlock's finding, reported in a clearly-written 100-page
memorandum and order, came nearly 18 months after both sides asked him
to decide the legal issues as a matter of summary judgment.
It was, perhaps, an unusually long deliberation, even for a judge with a
reputation for taking his time. On the other hand, his findings were
delivered a little in the manner of an O. Henry story, with a sudden
twist at the end.
The nub of the case turned out to be the Pallada Asset Management
Company. Though evidence was adduced to show that Shleifer had been
inviting his former student-turned deputy to invest with him in Russian
oil stocks as early as the summer of 1994 -- and though he and Hay made
several other kinds of personal investments in the next couple of years
-- it was a scheme to win a license from the Russian SEC for Hay's then
girlfriend, Elizabeth Hebert, as the first authorized vendor of Russian
mutual funds, that led to Woodlock's decision to find both men guilty of
the False Claims conspiracy charge.
The meaning of "assigned to Russia" might be so ambiguous that a jury
would be required to decide two counts of the complaint that Shleifer
committed fraud by investing in Russia while regularly visiting Moscow
from Newton, Mass., Judge Woodlock wrote.
But on the third count, wrote the judge, there could be no such doubt.
The available evidence clearly showed that a working understanding
existed among Shleifer and Hay to inappropriately finance and assist in
the launch of Pallada, in hopes of turning it into a Russian version of
market-dominating Fidelity Investments.
Hay's father lent Hebert $200,000 to buy a related business. Shleifer
loaned her a similar amount a few months later to advance her plans. The
smoking gun here was something called "the Steyer memo," a business plan
written by Hebert, reviewed by Hay (and perhaps designed to be signed by
him), and addressed to Thomas Steyer, a business associate of Shleifer's
wife, in hopes of attracting a further round of investment from him and
others.
"We are likely to get a license before anyone else which will give us a
significant first mover advantage... Given this project's relationship
with the Commission, any other attempts by definition will be in a
catchup mode... In the short to medium term, our advantage comes from
the fact the regulator wants us to be first..."
Shleifer was advisor to the Securities Commission. Hay was drafting the
securities law. At one point, Shleifer consulted a Harvard lawyer to ask
if his wife could invest in Pallada. It just wouldn't look right,
replied attorney Michael Butler.
"Tellingly" wrote the judge, "Shleifer did not ask Butler whether he
could invest in Russia." And so it was, by making the loans and thereby
financing the Pallada scheme, that the two men caused the submission of
a false claim.
Coming on page 92 of a 100-page opinion, the finding was a something of
a surprise. It turned out that the meaning of "assigned to Russia"
probably doesn't matter in Shleifer's case. One count of fraud is as
defeating as three. The decision seemed to render moot any need to
resort to a jury trial, and freed the court to move on to the question
of who owes what and to whom.
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Re: Communalising Kerala

2004-07-30 Thread Michael Perelman
This is truly sad.
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Re: A Question for the Moderator

2004-07-30 Thread Michael Perelman
I don't have any simple answers.  On the one hand, fragmentation makes for 
inefficiencies.
On the other hand, the larger the extent of the central government, a greater number of
minority groups might find themselves oppressed.

Even if you fragment the state, you'll probably find even smaller ethnic minorities 
find
themselves oppressed.  Most societies are like fractals, break them up and you'll find 
even
smaller divisions within each element.

One overriding problem is that by fragmenting political units, an imperial power will 
have
an easier time controlling them.

So here is the closest I can come to a simple answer: let us hope that we can get to a
socialist society in which people cannot profit from stirring up racial and ethnic 
hatred;
so that things that are truly local can be handled locally; and that people can learn 
to
cooperate.

Of course, how you get there -- that is the central question.



On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 04:36:05PM +0100, Ulhas Joglekar wrote:
> Michael Perelman,
>
> Some posters on this list have expressed their support
> for the breakup of Russia, India, Iran, Iraq, Syria
> and Turkey. I would like know what is your personal
> opinion in this matter.
>
> Ulhas
>
>
> 
> Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online
> Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

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Re: Kerry's a better choice for some conservatives

2004-07-30 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/29/04 11:32 PM >>>
Dan Scanlan wrote:
>> The Right Wing's Deep, Dark Secret
>Some hope for a Bush loss, and here's why
>   By John Micklethwait and Adrian Wooldridge

We (people, leftists, left liberals) made significant gains under Nixon
(despite his intentions) because we had behind us the threatening mass
movements of the '60s.
Leftists _must_ break, permanently and unambiguously, all ties to the DP
-- and this includes the leftists of the DP (Wellstone, Obama,
Hightower), who achieve nothing for us except symbolic gestures but
provide cover for the party's left flank.
Carrol
<<<<<>>>>>

come on, 'we' have chance in 04 to return 'liberal' jfk to prez, surely
you recall last time he was in office - civil rights advocate, pro
labor, tax wealthy - oh wait, he didn't actually initiate legal action
in any antidiscrimination cases, he appointed segregationists to federal
bench, he offered little help to civil rights activists attacked - and
killed - by racists, he opposed increases in minimum wage, he sought to
constrain wage demands by unions, he opposed reducing work week, he
presided over tax cuts for rich and corporations...

back to yesterday with jfk...   michael hoover


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Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state? -

2004-07-29 Thread Michael Perelman
My apologies; it was intended for Doug, but the posts from David tonight were not
very nice, especially after I asked that the thread be discontinued.


On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 08:42:15PM -0700, Michael Perelman wrote:
> He has behaved ok until tonight.  One more & he is gone; or maybe I will just get him
> to resub to LBO.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:51:40PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
> > sartesian wrote:
> >
> > >So then why, Mr. Henwood, have you given credence to the notion that the US
> > >presence might lend stability to Iraq?
> >
> > I haven't, asshole.
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Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state? -

2004-07-29 Thread Michael Perelman
He has behaved ok until tonight.  One more & he is gone; or maybe I will just get him
to resub to LBO.


On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:51:40PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
> sartesian wrote:
>
> >So then why, Mr. Henwood, have you given credence to the notion that the US
> >presence might lend stability to Iraq?
>
> I haven't, asshole.

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Re: India Turned Kashmir into the Bitter Place It Is Now

2004-07-29 Thread Perelman, Michael
David, cut it out if you want to remain on the list.

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-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sartesian
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] India Turned Kashmir into the Bitter Place It Is
Now

You were much further ahead when you said you didn't know.  Since then
you've deployed the "outside agitator" explanation, and then this,
neither
of which address the real issues.
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Doss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] India Turned Kashmir into the Bitter Place It Is
Now


> --- Yoshie Furuhashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > India turned Kashmir into the bitter place it is now
>
> Typical Guardian headline:
>
> Big country (fill in name of big country here) turned
> small country (fill in name of small country here)
> into the bitter place it is now. Small countries are
> by definition victims of other countries and share no
> responsibility whatsoever for the situation.
>
>
>
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Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state? -

2004-07-29 Thread Michael Perelman
Damn it, David.  Cut it out!

On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:24:50PM -0700, sartesian wrote:
> So then why, Mr. Henwood, have you given credence to the notion that the US
> presence might lend stability to Iraq?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Doug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Israel pushing for Kurdish state? -
>
>
> > Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
> >
> > >Have you added up all the Iraqi civilians killed by various factions
> > >of Iraqi and non-Iraqi terrorists and compared the number to that of
> > >Iraqi civilians killed by US and other foreign troops who invaded and
> > >have occupied Iraq and by economic sanctions before the invasion and
> > >occupation?
> > >
> > >Americans who vote for John Kerry who will be the next POTUS, aka the
> > >biggest terrorist and war criminal, have no moral standing to pretend
> > >to be appalled by un-American terrorists.
> > >
> > >Only those who do not vote for Kerry or Bush have the moral standing
> > >to criticize foreign terrorists.
> >
> > What a load of crap. Elections are about contesting for power, and
> > often involve debased compromises; votes aren't symptoms of moral
> > purity.
> >
> > And why is it impossible to hold two thoughts in mind at once? The
> > sanctions were murderous and the war a horrible crime. There's no
> > doubt that the U.S. and its very junior partners have killed far more
> > Iraqi civilians than the "resistance." But there are some people on
> > the western left - some of them members of PEN-L, even - who can't
> > acknowledge that a lot of the Iraqi "resistance" consists of
> > jihadists and unreconstructed Saddamites, i.e., absolutely awful
> > forces.
> >
> > As Christian Parenti said when he returned from his first trip to
> > Iraq - there's no way anything good can come of this.
> >
> > Doug

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