Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-11-24 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote:
 Seems the propagation is stuck in the intertubes:

    $ host 2011.qa-hackathon.org
    2011.qa-hackathon.org is an alias for conferences.mongueurs.net.
    conferences.mongueurs.net is an alias for spectre.mongueurs.net.
    spectre.mongueurs.net has address 91.216.186.189
    $ host 2012.qa-hackathon.org
    2012.qa-hackathon.org has address 80.68.89.106

 Will some more patience help, or do the tubes need a good kick? :-)

It works for me now, finally, so I assume it will work for others soon enough.

Leon


Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-11-22 Thread Barbie
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:47:19PM +0100, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:
 
 The site is up (with an ugly logo left as an incentive for volunteers to
 improve the site looks), and will reply to http://2012.qa-hackathon.org/
 as soon as the DNS are updated (same IP as for 2011).

DNS should hopefully be fully propagated by tomorrow.

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Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-10-01 Thread Barbie
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 08:37:37AM -0400, David Golden wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
 philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote:
  I thought I'd see people complain about having the hackathon start on
  a Friday, so I'll take the silence to mean doesn't really matter,
  so long as you have a good venue. :-)
 
 Yes.  Friday is fine.

Likewise :)

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Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-09-30 Thread Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:04:24AM +0200, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:
 
 Some of our regular venues (French Perl Workshop, OSDC.fr, technical
 meetings) are free for us to use, but closed on Mondays. So we might want
 to move the hackathon to a Friday-Sunday schedule, to take advantage of
 a free venue, and focus the budget on travel/accommodation.
 

I thought I'd see people complain about having the hackathon start on
a Friday, so I'll take the silence to mean doesn't really matter,
so long as you have a good venue. :-)

-- 
 Philippe Bruhat (BooK)

 One lesson learned is never enough.
   (Moral from Groo The Wanderer #104 (Epic))


Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-09-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:44:21AM +0200, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:04:24AM +0200, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:
  
  Some of our regular venues (French Perl Workshop, OSDC.fr, technical
  meetings) are free for us to use, but closed on Mondays. So we might want
  to move the hackathon to a Friday-Sunday schedule, to take advantage of
  a free venue, and focus the budget on travel/accommodation.
  
 
 I thought I'd see people complain about having the hackathon start on
 a Friday, so I'll take the silence to mean doesn't really matter,
 so long as you have a good venue. :-)

That seems a fair assumption.

This particular Friday makes things a little more difficult for me since
it is my daughter's birthday on the Thursday, but she's now at an age
where she may well consider it an advantage if I were to be travelling
through France at that time.

If we go with Friday to Sunday then April 13th - 15th works better for
me.  But i'm only really mentioning this to break the silence.  I'm
grateful for whatever you are able to arrange and hope to be able to
attend whenever that is.

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http://www.pjcj.net


Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-09-30 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote:
 I thought I'd see people complain about having the hackathon start on
 a Friday, so I'll take the silence to mean doesn't really matter,
 so long as you have a good venue. :-)

Yes.  Friday is fine.

-- David


Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-09-30 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Philippe Bruhat (BooK) philippe.bru...@free.fr writes:
 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:04:24AM +0200, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:
 
 Some of our regular venues (French Perl Workshop, OSDC.fr, technical
 meetings) are free for us to use, but closed on Mondays. So we might want
 to move the hackathon to a Friday-Sunday schedule, to take advantage of
 a free venue, and focus the budget on travel/accommodation.
 

 I thought I'd see people complain about having the hackathon start on
 a Friday, so I'll take the silence to mean doesn't really matter, so
 long as you have a good venue. :-)

Exactly.[1]

Kind regards,
Steffen 

Footnotes: 
[1]  :-)
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Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-09-26 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote:
 So we have started to look for venues and sponsors.

 Last year's host and main sponsor won't sponsor us this year, because they
 want to sponsor other Perl events (with more attendees). I will talk with
 the head of the Paris office to inquire about rooms in the Paris office,
 but from what I heard, 25 people would not fit comfortably in there.

How about Linkfluence? Would they have enough space for something like this?

 Some of our regular venues (French Perl Workshop, OSDC.fr, technical
 meetings) are free for us to use, but closed on Mondays. So we might want
 to move the hackathon to a Friday-Sunday schedule, to take advantage of
 a free venue, and focus the budget on travel/accommodation.

Sounds OK to me.

Leon


Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-09-23 Thread Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 01:07:36AM +0200, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 wrote:
 We left the last hackathon with both London and Paris offering to host the 
 next one. For once, let's hash out some details early and not procrastinate 
 until the lack of remaining time causes stress.
 
 MDK said it would be a good idea to avoid the Olympics and therefore host in 
 Paris, with the London people also sitting in with the organisation sessions 
 in preparation of the following year. Sounds good?

So we have started to look for venues and sponsors.

Last year's host and main sponsor won't sponsor us this year, because they
want to sponsor other Perl events (with more attendees). I will talk with
the head of the Paris office to inquire about rooms in the Paris office,
but from what I heard, 25 people would not fit comfortably in there.

So, we're on the hunt for other monetary sponsors, and other potential
venues. If you know companies that would like to sponsor the hackathon,
or an individual coming to the hackathon (travel and accomodation),
sent them to me. :-)

Some of our regular venues (French Perl Workshop, OSDC.fr, technical
meetings) are free for us to use, but closed on Mondays. So we might want
to move the hackathon to a Friday-Sunday schedule, to take advantage of
a free venue, and focus the budget on travel/accommodation.

 To the usual suspects on this list, especially the ones who could not attend 
 the last times: when do you have time around April? (Traditionally, the QA 
 hackathon is from Saturday to Monday and avoids Easter.)

We have noted the preferred dates (last week-end of March), but can't
confirm anything until we have a venue.

-- 
 Philippe Bruhat (BooK)

 Mankind is the story of the same mistakes in different places.
 (Moral from Groo #1 (Image))


Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-08-26 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 da...@cpan.org writes:
 We left the last hackathon with both London and Paris offering to host the 
 next one. For once, let's hash out some details early and not procrastinate 
 until the lack of remaining time causes stress.

You can't just willy-nilly start procrastinating and then suddenly
stop before it's too late. That would pull out the whole fun of the
procrastination idea. :-)

I'm for Paris.
I try to be flexible around March/April 2012.


Kind regards,
Steffen 
-- 
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Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-08-24 Thread Mark Keating

On 23/08/2011 00:07, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 wrote:

We left the last hackathon with both London and Paris offering to host the
next one. For once, let's hash out some details early and not procrastinate
until the lack of remaining time causes stress.

As always thanks to Lars for kick-starting this to the list :)

MDK said it would be a good idea to avoid the Olympics and therefore host in
Paris, with the London people also sitting in with the organisation sessions
in preparation of the following year. Sounds good?
I know the Olympics is later in the year, I just don't want to be 
drowned amongst the noise, I think we have a chance to gather more 
attention by hosting it in the year afterwards. Also I have a feeling 
that the hotels in London will up their prices for the entire year to 
make the most of the big event (which is what happened in other cities, 
local industry/enterprise was able to extend the attraction period and 
more visitors came before/after to see the Olympic city and locations).

To the usual suspects on this list, especially the ones who could not attend
the last times: when do you have time around April? (Traditionally, the QA
hackathon is from Saturday to Monday and avoids Easter.)
At this moment I am free in that period and as always willing to help 
organise/promote. As soon as BooK/Andy agree I will start the 
announcement process. I am hoping this year to make more contacts with 
the other OS languages and promote the QA to them as well.


Looking forward to working with you all on list/irc channel. Once we 
decide venue/organising team we should restart the weekly 15-minute irc 
meetings as last/this year they helped galvanise efforts and keep us all 
informed.


-mdk



Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 09:54:44AM +0100, Mark Keating wrote:

   I am hoping this year to make more contacts
 with the other OS languages and promote the QA to them as well.

That would be super.

To pick a language at random (no, really) I understand that PHP practices TDD
but without TODO tests.  This seems to be the cause of the recent problems in
which the 5.3.7 release contained a bug in crypt().  The tests reported the
failure but it was lost in the noise of 200 other known failures.

  http://gcov.php.net/viewer.php?version=PHP_5_3func=graphmode=Year

Does anyone have any appropriate contacts in any other languages?  I think it
would be great if we were able to get together and learn from each other.

-- 
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http://www.pjcj.net


Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-08-23 Thread Barbie
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 01:07:36AM +0200, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 wrote:
 To the usual suspects on this list, especially the ones who could not attend 
 the last times: when do you have time around April? (Traditionally, the QA 
 hackathon is from Saturday to Monday and avoids Easter.)

I hope to attend next year, but depends on any touring commitments I may
have. The band seem to like April and October for their gigs :)

Whoever ends up organising the 2012 and 2013, can you let me know the
appropriate IP addresses, so I can set up the DNS for the
*.qa-hackathon.org entries :)

Cheers,
Barbie.
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Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-08-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:11:52PM -0400, Ricardo Signes wrote:
 * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2011-08-22T22:23:42]
  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 da...@cpan.org wrote:
   To the usual suspects on this list, especially the ones who could not 
   attend
   the last times: when do you have time around April? (Traditionally, the QA
   hackathon is from Saturday to Monday and avoids Easter.)
  
  My daughter turns 1 on March 22, but I would expect to be free the
  weekend that includes April 1.  I would not be free the following
  weekend, which is Easter/Passover.  Otherwise, April looks flexible.

March 31st to April 2nd would work well for me too.

My second choice would be May 5th to 7th which also happens be a bank holiday
in the UK.

 Apr 8 is both Easter and my wedding anniversary.  I believe that other than
 that, I'm also quite flexible.

You got married on Easter Sunday?  Nice ;-)

-- 
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http://www.pjcj.net


Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-08-23 Thread Salve J Nilsen

David Golden said:


FWIW, my wife has now strongly hinted that the March 31st weekend 
would be the best option.  :-)


Just a quick preliminary heads-up (without anything being set in stone 
atm.)


There's a decent chance for a Perl6 hackathon (and related events in 
the days before and after) in Oslo the weekend of march 23-25 - one 
week before David's wife's suggestion :).


I've heard from some of the prospective attendees that they'd love for 
something more to do in .EU around that time, perhaps being a bit 
miffed by the long weeks between that hackathon and the NLPW dates in 
the beginning of march.


So if $organizers would like to have some attention from the Perl6 
crowd (or maybe give the qa/toolchain gang an opportunity to make 
something happen in the Perl6 community) there might be a good time 
for this then. We'd also make life a little easier for some of the 
people who come from faraways. :)



- Salve (Oslo.pm)

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'2!--5-(50P%$PL,!0X354UC-PP%/0\`'.\n));eval {'@_'};   __END__ is near! :)


Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-08-22 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 23 Aug 2011, at 00:07, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 wrote:
 We left the last hackathon with both London and Paris offering to host the 
 next one. For once, let's hash out some details early and not procrastinate 
 until the lack of remaining time causes stress.
 
 MDK said it would be a good idea to avoid the Olympics and therefore host in 
 Paris, with the London people also sitting in with the organisation sessions 
 in preparation of the following year. Sounds good?
 
 To the usual suspects on this list, especially the ones who could not attend 
 the last times: when do you have time around April? (Traditionally, the QA 
 hackathon is from Saturday to Monday and avoids Easter.)


I'm happy with Paris.

Equally happy to do London - there shouldn't be too much Olympic related mayhem 
in April.

-- 
Andy Armstrong, Hexten




Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-08-22 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 23 Aug 2011, at 00:58, Andy Armstrong wrote:
 Equally happy to do London - there shouldn't be too much Olympic related 
 mayhem in April.


By which I mean to say that I'm happy to host it in London in either 2012 or 
2013 :)

-- 
Andy Armstrong, Hexten





Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-08-22 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 da...@cpan.org wrote:
 To the usual suspects on this list, especially the ones who could not attend
 the last times: when do you have time around April? (Traditionally, the QA
 hackathon is from Saturday to Monday and avoids Easter.)

My daughter turns 1 on March 22, but I would expect to be free the
weekend that includes April 1.  I would not be free the following
weekend, which is Easter/Passover.  Otherwise, April looks flexible.

-- David


Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-08-22 Thread Ricardo Signes
* David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2011-08-22T22:23:42]
 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 da...@cpan.org wrote:
  To the usual suspects on this list, especially the ones who could not attend
  the last times: when do you have time around April? (Traditionally, the QA
  hackathon is from Saturday to Monday and avoids Easter.)
 
 My daughter turns 1 on March 22, but I would expect to be free the
 weekend that includes April 1.  I would not be free the following
 weekend, which is Easter/Passover.  Otherwise, April looks flexible.

Apr 8 is both Easter and my wedding anniversary.  I believe that other than
that, I'm also quite flexible.

-- 
rjbs