Re: [Pharo-users] How to silently generate and remove code

[Marcus Denker]

> On 29 Mar 2015, at 10:32, stepharo  wrote:
> 
> Before that I would like that the compiler outputs classes definition in an 
> environment (that can be the default one) but that can be the one
> I want and specified from the outside of the compiler.

For installing, it is the ClassInstaller that does that (and yes, it has an 
environment).

What the compiler does not have is to look up references e.g. to symbols 
regarding to an environment, but that is because we
don’t have that concept right now in the system in general. globals/class vars 
are requested from the class (which defines its environment).

So in general, we first need a use case, else it is not clear what to do…


Marcus

Re: [Pharo-users] How to silently generate and remove code

[Christophe Demarey]

Le 30 mars 2015 à 09:10, Marcus Denker a écrit :

> 
>> On 29 Mar 2015, at 10:32, stepharo  wrote:
>> 
>> Before that I would like that the compiler outputs classes definition in an 
>> environment (that can be the default one) but that can be the one
>> I want and specified from the outside of the compiler.
> 
> For installing, it is the ClassInstaller that does that (and yes, it has an 
> environment).
> 
> What the compiler does not have is to look up references e.g. to symbols 
> regarding to an environment, but that is because we
> don’t have that concept right now in the system in general. globals/class 
> vars are requested from the class (which defines its environment).
> 
> So in general, we first need a use case, else it is not clear what to do…

A first use case could be to install new code in a sandbox, check if the 
loading is good, and then move the code to the default environment, else drop 
the sandbox.
It is also a part of the feature asked by Johan: install code in a sandbox for 
tests purposes and then drop it without perturbing the system.

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Re: [Pharo-users] How to silently generate and remove code

[Johan Fabry]

> On Mar 30, 2015, at 09:23, Christophe Demarey  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Le 30 mars 2015 à 09:10, Marcus Denker a écrit :
> 
>> 
>>> On 29 Mar 2015, at 10:32, stepharo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Before that I would like that the compiler outputs classes definition in an 
>>> environment (that can be the default one) but that can be the one
>>> I want and specified from the outside of the compiler.
>> 
>> For installing, it is the ClassInstaller that does that (and yes, it has an 
>> environment).
>> 
>> What the compiler does not have is to look up references e.g. to symbols 
>> regarding to an environment, but that is because we
>> don’t have that concept right now in the system in general. globals/class 
>> vars are requested from the class (which defines its environment).
>> 
>> So in general, we first need a use case, else it is not clear what to do…
> 
> A first use case could be to install new code in a sandbox, check if the 
> loading is good, and then move the code to the default environment, else drop 
> the sandbox.
> It is also a part of the feature asked by Johan: install code in a sandbox 
> for tests purposes and then drop it without perturbing the system.

To be clear: I want to be able to generate code (classes and methods in these 
classes), and remove them when needed without it being logged in the changes 
file.  This is because it may end up to be a lot of code that changes extremely 
frequently, so it will pollute the change file a lot. And for debugging, I want 
to be able to see the source for the methods, even though they are not in 
.changes. (I will never want to version this code nor do anything else 
‘serious’ with it, it’s all generated stuff).

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Re: [Pharo-users] How to silently generate and remove code

[Werner Kassens]

On 03/30/2015 09:10 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:

What the compiler does not have is to look up references e.g. to symbols 
regarding to an environment, but that is because we
don’t have that concept right now in the system in general. globals/class vars 
are requested from the class (which defines its environment).

So in general, we first need a use case, else it is not clear what to do…


Hi Marcus,
i dont know whether this really applies to the things you are talking 
about here, but it sounds a bit like it eventually could, hence i'll 
mention it: i had a little program, that constructs an array of blocks 
(no object methods) via opal from scratch (using strings). now this 
worked of course without problems, but there are situations where it 
would be nice if those blocks would have - in a _simple_ way - access to 
common variables constructed by the program, iow if all those blocks 
would live in the same 'space' as those variables - or however thats 
called correctly. does this scenario apply as a possible use case 
(obviously completely different from Johan's use case) ?

werner

Re: [Pharo-users] How to silently generate and remove code

[Thierry Goubier]

A use case:

the ability to test and debug the code generation part of SmaCC.

SmaCC, when compiling a parser, generates dozens of classes and hundreds of
methods, some of those very long, as a sequence of refactorings (and
optimise them).

Then SmaCC apply them all in one step.

I'd dream of having a virtual environment where I could test-compile and
check all those methods, via a system browser, before they are compiled.

Thierry

2015-03-30 9:10 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker :

>
> > On 29 Mar 2015, at 10:32, stepharo  wrote:
> >
> > Before that I would like that the compiler outputs classes definition in
> an environment (that can be the default one) but that can be the one
> > I want and specified from the outside of the compiler.
>
> For installing, it is the ClassInstaller that does that (and yes, it has
> an environment).
>
> What the compiler does not have is to look up references e.g. to symbols
> regarding to an environment, but that is because we
> don't have that concept right now in the system in general. globals/class
> vars are requested from the class (which defines its environment).
>
> So in general, we first need a use case, else it is not clear what to do...
>
>
> Marcus
>

Re: [Pharo-users] MySQL framework for Pharo to analyze futures and options.

[nacho]

Hi,
Thanks for all the input.
I've managed to download Glorp and the MySQL Glorp driver.
However I'm having serious difficulties in setting it to work.
I've search for some documentation in the Glorp page but seems there's a
problem with Google Drive.
Is there any place to search / look at an example on how to actually
connect, map and query a SQL database from Pharo?
Thanks in advance
Nacho!




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Re: [Pharo-users] How to silently generate and remove code

[Johan Fabry]

> On Mar 30, 2015, at 11:01, Werner Kassens  wrote:
> 
>  i had a little program, that constructs an array of blocks (no object 
> methods) via opal from scratch (using strings). now this worked of course 
> without problems, but there are situations where it would be nice if those 
> blocks would have - in a _simple_ way - access to common variables 
> constructed by the program, iow if all those blocks would live in the same 
> 'space' as those variables - or however thats called correctly. does this 
> scenario apply as a possible use case (obviously completely different from 
> Johan's use case) ?

Werner, let me surprise you: what I am doing is in the end exactly that! :-)

I am compiling blocks, written by the user of the system, that need references 
to variables that are outside the block, and they are shared between the 
different blocks. (The blocks have been written in a plain text textfield). So 
how do I have them access the variables?

 Here is the setup:
- I generate a class (MyGeneratedClass) with as *class variables* all the 
variables that need to be accessed by the different blocks
- For each block I generate a string with method source code 
(myGeneratedMethod_timestamp), whose body is: return the block 
- I compile the method and add it to MyGeneratedClass class (add it at class 
side)
- I execute each method (MyGeneratedClass myGeneratedMethod_timestamp) , which 
gives me a BlockContext that has captured the variables.
- sending value to that executes the block, and all blocks share the variables 
in MyGeneratedClass.

Simple :-)

And thanks to Marcus for discussing this with me a couple of years ago ...

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Re: [Pharo-users] How to silently generate and remove code

[Werner Kassens]

Hi Johan,
 you did surprise me! thanks for that info, i can use that indeed.
werner

On 03/30/2015 04:47 PM, Johan Fabry wrote:

Werner, let me surprise you: what I am doing is in the end exactly that! :-) ...

Re: [Pharo-users] MySQL framework for Pharo to analyze futures and options.

[Cameron Sanders via Pharo-users]

--- Begin Message ---
Of general educational nature are two Glorp guides that I know of:
1) Glorp / User Guide  by Nevin Pratt, and
2) San Diego State University "Glorp Tutorial" by Roger Whitney.

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Otherwise, there are members on this board who can direct your attention to
test code to test your configuration.

Good luck,
Cam

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:14 AM, nacho <0800na...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Thanks for all the input.
> I've managed to download Glorp and the MySQL Glorp driver.
> However I'm having serious difficulties in setting it to work.
> I've search for some documentation in the Glorp page but seems there's a
> problem with Google Drive.
> Is there any place to search / look at an example on how to actually
> connect, map and query a SQL database from Pharo?
> Thanks in advance
> Nacho!
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Pharo-users] How to silently generate and remove code

[Marcus Denker]

Ok, I noted all the use cases. 

> On 30 Mar 2015, at 16:25, Thierry Goubier  wrote:
> 
> A use case:
> 
> the ability to test and debug the code generation part of SmaCC.
> 
> SmaCC, when compiling a parser, generates dozens of classes and hundreds of 
> methods, some of those very long, as a sequence of refactorings (and optimise 
> them).
> 
> Then SmaCC apply them all in one step.
> 
> I'd dream of having a virtual environment where I could test-compile and 
> check all those methods, via a system browser, before they are compiled.
> 
> Thierry
> 
> 2015-03-30 9:10 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker  >:
> 
> > On 29 Mar 2015, at 10:32, stepharo  > > wrote:
> >
> > Before that I would like that the compiler outputs classes definition in an 
> > environment (that can be the default one) but that can be the one
> > I want and specified from the outside of the compiler.
> 
> For installing, it is the ClassInstaller that does that (and yes, it has an 
> environment).
> 
> What the compiler does not have is to look up references e.g. to symbols 
> regarding to an environment, but that is because we
> don’t have that concept right now in the system in general. globals/class 
> vars are requested from the class (which defines its environment).
> 
> So in general, we first need a use case, else it is not clear what to do…
> 
> 
> Marcus
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] MySQL framework for Pharo to analyze futures and options.

[jtuc...@objektfabrik.de]

Hi,

the most current documentation of (the most current) Glorp ships with 
VisualWorks. So your best bet is downloading their PUL product.


The two tutorials mentioned by Cameron are not too outdated yet to be 
useless, but The DescriptorSystem has learned quite a few tricks since 
the time those were written. You need to ask your favorite search engine 
where to find them. I don't know of an official, still current place.
Some other sprinkles of information can be found in several slide decks 
by Niall from ESUG 2013 and 2014. Very helpful once you've taken the 
first hurdle.


I think, however, you can forget about Glorp.org as a source of 
information. It is painfully unmaintained at least it was when I last 
took a look.


Sorry if I sound destructive. I use Glorp daily and like it very much.
Niall and Instantiations are helpful in bug fixes and stuff it, but they 
sure cannot help in learning the basics.



Joachim




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Re: [Pharo-users] MySQL framework for Pharo to analyze futures and options.

[Merwan Ouddane]

There is a mail Niall send me after I asked him for documentation

Good luck ;)

Merwan

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: Glorp Documentation
Date:   Sun, 8 Feb 2015 18:18:13 +
From:   Niall Ross (Cincom) 
Organization:   Cincom
To: Merwan Ouddane 



Dear Merwan,


I just wanted to know where can I find the glorp documentation you are
talking about here:
http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/publicRepository/Glorp%28Bundle%29.html



If you have a version of VisualWorks (or ObjectStudio) installed, then
   doc/GlorpGuide.pdf
and
   preview/glorp/GlorpUserGuide0.3.pdf
are paths from the root of installation.

If you do not already have a version, you can download the Personal User
Licence version and install it for free for non-commercial use, from
   http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/
navigating from the PRODUCTS menu.

Be aware the GlorpUserGuide0.3.pdf was never completed and is now very
old, using some out-of-date protocol, etc.  The GlorpGuide.pdf is much
newer.  You can also look at

http://esug.org/data/ESUG2014/1%20monday/1400-1500-Glorp/GlorpTutorialGuide-ESUG2014-0.1.pdf

which are the slides of a tutorial on Glorp that I gave at ESUG last year.

HTH
   Niall Ross

Re: [Pharo-users] How to silently generate and remove code

[Johan Fabry]

Here is a class that can be of use for you then :-)
It’s a bit more complicated than what you need exactly, because I have lexical 
scoping and subscopes et cetera, but you can ignore that really. The relevant 
methods for you are generateNamedClass:withSuper: and compileBlock:forScope: 

Success!




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> On Mar 30, 2015, at 12:06, Werner Kassens  wrote:
> 
> Hi Johan,
>  you did surprise me! thanks for that info, i can use that indeed.
> werner
> 
> On 03/30/2015 04:47 PM, Johan Fabry wrote:
>> Werner, let me surprise you: what I am doing is in the end exactly that! :-) 
>> ...
> 
> 



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[Pharo-users] Problem in creating new project on smalltalk hub

[rohit sharma]

hi all,
when i am creating new project it is showing "*Oops! *Invalid username or
password"  , any suggestion? I am already login to my account and using web
interface (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/register).

Regards
Rohit

[Pharo-users] Pharo 4.0 / Roassal2

[Volkert]

Hi,

can someone tell me, how to load Roassal2 into a Pharo4.0 Image? Or is 
it not a good

idea with the current state of Pharo4.0?

Gofer it
smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'Roassal2';
configurationOf: 'Roassal2';
loadDevelopment

loaded it, but it the examples do not work with playground.

I also tried

Gofer new
  smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour';
  package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour';
  load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour)
  perform: #loadDevelopment

to load it in the latest Image  #40587, but it failed.

I have absolutely no idea, what depends on what ...

BW
Volkert

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4.0 / Roassal2

[Peter Uhnák]

Hi,

try also adding this
~~
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'GToolkit';
package: 'GT-InspectorExtensions-CoreRoassal';
load.
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour';
package: 'Glamour-Tools';
package: 'Glamour-Roassal2-Presentations';
load.
~~

Peter

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Volkert 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> can someone tell me, how to load Roassal2 into a Pharo4.0 Image? Or is it
> not a good
> idea with the current state of Pharo4.0?
>
> Gofer it
> smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'Roassal2';
> configurationOf: 'Roassal2';
> loadDevelopment
>
> loaded it, but it the examples do not work with playground.
>
> I also tried
>
> Gofer new
>   smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour';
>   package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour';
>   load.
> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour)
>   perform: #loadDevelopment
>
> to load it in the latest Image  #40587, but it failed.
>
> I have absolutely no idea, what depends on what ...
>
> BW
> Volkert
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] How to silently generate and remove code

[Werner Kassens]

Hi Johan,
thanks, i see how it works and removes the object later.
werner

On 03/30/2015 06:42 PM, Johan Fabry wrote:

Here is a class that can be of use for you then :-)

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4.0 / Roassal2

[Volkert]

Thanks Peter. Ok this work.

Gofer it
smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'Roassal2';
configurationOf: 'Roassal2';
loadDevelopment

Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'GToolkit';
package: 'GT-InspectorExtensions-CoreRoassal';
load.

Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour';
package: 'Glamour-Tools';
package: 'Glamour-Roassal2-Presentations';
load.

BW,
Volkert


Am 30.03.2015 um 21:00 schrieb Peter Uhnák:

Hi,

try also adding this
~~
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'GToolkit';
package: 'GT-InspectorExtensions-CoreRoassal';
load.
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour';
package: 'Glamour-Tools';
package: 'Glamour-Roassal2-Presentations';
load.
~~

Peter

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Volkert 
> wrote:


Hi,

can someone tell me, how to load Roassal2 into a Pharo4.0 Image?
Or is it not a good
idea with the current state of Pharo4.0?

Gofer it
smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'Roassal2';
configurationOf: 'Roassal2';
loadDevelopment

loaded it, but it the examples do not work with playground.

I also tried

Gofer new
  smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour';
  package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour';
  load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour)
  perform: #loadDevelopment

to load it in the latest Image  #40587, but it failed.

I have absolutely no idea, what depends on what ...

BW
Volkert

[Pharo-users] Uncommon keyboard shortcuts on Windows

[Jan B.]

Hello

First of all, I don't use much keyboard shortcuts on linux or mac, so all I
write is just from point of Windows-only user.
I would like to ask what is the reason of very uncommon keyboard shortcuts
on Windows.

Best example is redo/do again/invert undo... undo is ctrl+Z (which is
right), but redo/do again is alt+J, which is something I have never seen
anywhere, because it is mostly ctrl+Y (microsoft products), ctrl+shift+Z
(photoshop for windows) or both (google and mozilla products on windows).
Also, for select all, I have never seen any other shortcut than ctrl+A, but
it is alt+A in Pharo... ctrl+A works only in playground.

Is it a workaround because of a bug? Is it the bug itself? Or is it just a
"feature", like using the same as some other OS does?

Jan



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Re: [Pharo-users] Uncommon keyboard shortcuts on Windows

[Peter Uhnák]

Hi,

there is currently ongoing discussion about shortcuts since there is a bit
Ctrl vs Alt chaos in both Linux and Windows.
Note for example that in many cases (undo, copy, paste, ...) you can use
both ctrl and alt.
Unfortunately there are many different tools (Nautilus, TextEditor, Rubic,
Playground) and each specifies shortcuts by itself and slightly differently.

In any case the "default" for Windows is at the moment Alt.

Peter


On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Jan B.  wrote:

> Hello
>
> First of all, I don't use much keyboard shortcuts on linux or mac, so all I
> write is just from point of Windows-only user.
> I would like to ask what is the reason of very uncommon keyboard shortcuts
> on Windows.
>
> Best example is redo/do again/invert undo... undo is ctrl+Z (which is
> right), but redo/do again is alt+J, which is something I have never seen
> anywhere, because it is mostly ctrl+Y (microsoft products), ctrl+shift+Z
> (photoshop for windows) or both (google and mozilla products on windows).
> Also, for select all, I have never seen any other shortcut than ctrl+A, but
> it is alt+A in Pharo... ctrl+A works only in playground.
>
> Is it a workaround because of a bug? Is it the bug itself? Or is it just a
> "feature", like using the same as some other OS does?
>
> Jan
>
>
>
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Re: [Pharo-users] Problem in creating new project on smalltalk hub

[Sean P. DeNigris]

rohit_01 wrote
> when i am creating new project it is showing "*Oops! *Invalid username or
> password"  , any suggestion?

Hmm... I've never encountered that. Can you take a screenshot?



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[Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

[Peter Uhnák]

Hi,

I've made a quick poll because I'm interested in the distribution of Pharo
users among OSes.
It's a single anonymous question, so it shouldn't take more than five
seconds to complete :)

http://strawpoll.me/4001583

Thanks :)

Peter

Re: [Pharo-users] Uncommon keyboard shortcuts on Windows

[Laura Risani]

Hi Jan ,

(Under Windows...)
For redoing ctrl+shif+z works fine on Workspace and Class Browser and in
any other place i can remember.
Copy, cut, paste, find, text selecting, moving to previous/next word (not
exactly the same semantics) shortcuts convey Windows ones. Which other
keyboard shortcuts, besides select-all, contradict Windows ones?



On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Jan B.  wrote:

> Hello
>
> First of all, I don't use much keyboard shortcuts on linux or mac, so all I
> write is just from point of Windows-only user.
> I would like to ask what is the reason of very uncommon keyboard shortcuts
> on Windows.
>
> Best example is redo/do again/invert undo... undo is ctrl+Z (which is
> right), but redo/do again is alt+J, which is something I have never seen
> anywhere, because it is mostly ctrl+Y (microsoft products), ctrl+shift+Z
> (photoshop for windows) or both (google and mozilla products on windows).
> Also, for select all, I have never seen any other shortcut than ctrl+A, but
> it is alt+A in Pharo... ctrl+A works only in playground.
>
> Is it a workaround because of a bug? Is it the bug itself? Or is it just a
> "feature", like using the same as some other OS does?
>
> Jan
>
>
>
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>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem in creating new project on smalltalk hub

[Sean P. DeNigris]

Maybe try logging out and then back in? Or logging in with a different browser?



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Re: [Pharo-users] Problem in creating new project on smalltalk hub

[rohit sharma]

Thanks Sean. Problem solved. This is the first time i am facing such
problem.
I have one more doubt, Is there any case in which if we don't do write
super initialize and we face problems.

Regards
rohit_01

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Sean P. DeNigris 
wrote:

> Maybe try logging out and then back in? Or logging in with a different
> browser?
> Cheers,
> Sean
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Re: [Pharo-users] Problem in creating new project on smalltalk hub

[Sean P. DeNigris]

> I have one more doubt, Is there any case in which if we don't do write super 
> initialize and we face problems.
It's a common practice to always send #initialize to super on the instance 
side. If you don't, and super does something important (e.g. in a Morph 
subclass), you will have problems. On the class side, it's the reverse - don't 
send to super unless you have a specific reason.





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Re: [Pharo-users] Problem in creating new project on smalltalk hub

[rohit sharma]

ok, thanks.

Greetings,
rohit_01


On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Sean P. DeNigris 
wrote:

> > I have one more doubt, Is there any case in which if we don't do write
> super initialize and we face problems.
> It's a common practice to always send #initialize to super on the instance
> side. If you don't, and super does something important (e.g. in a Morph
> subclass), you will have problems. On the class side, it's the reverse -
> don't send to super unless you have a specific reason.
>
>  Cheers,
> Sean
>
> --
> View this message in context: Re: Problem in creating new project on
> smalltalk hub
> 
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>  at Nabble.com.
>

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

[kilon alios]

more linux than mac ? thats a surprise .

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Peter Uhnák  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've made a quick poll because I'm interested in the distribution of Pharo
> users among OSes.
> It's a single anonymous question, so it shouldn't take more than five
> seconds to complete :)
>
> http://strawpoll.me/4001583
>
> Thanks :)
>
> Peter
>

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

[Bernat Romagosa]

I think that's because we GNU/Linux users tend to reply quicker when asked
which OS we use.
El dia 31/03/2015 7.58, "kilon alios"  va escriure:

> more linux than mac ? thats a surprise .
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Peter Uhnák  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've made a quick poll because I'm interested in the distribution of
>> Pharo users among OSes.
>> It's a single anonymous question, so it shouldn't take more than five
>> seconds to complete :)
>>
>> http://strawpoll.me/4001583
>>
>> Thanks :)
>>
>> Peter
>>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

[Norbert Hartl]

> Am 31.03.2015 um 07:58 schrieb kilon alios :
> 
> more linux than mac ? thats a surprise . 
> 
You didn't ask about desktop (GUI) or server (headless). There probably a lot 
of people having a server running somewhere. I clicked both options: Mac and 
Linux

Norbert

> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Peter Uhnák  > wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've made a quick poll because I'm interested in the distribution of Pharo 
> users among OSes.
> It's a single anonymous question, so it shouldn't take more than five seconds 
> to complete :)
> 
> http://strawpoll.me/4001583 
> 
> Thanks :)
> 
> Peter
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

[Sven Van Caekenberghe]

> On 31 Mar 2015, at 08:05, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
> 
> You didn't ask about desktop (GUI) or server (headless). There probably a lot 
> of people having a server running somewhere. I clicked both options: Mac and 
> Linux

Me too, for the same reason. Desktop/server linux are two very different 
profiles.