Re: [Phono-L] Rare phonogaph cabinet/storage
Nice find!!! I have three different styles of these cabinets. Only one is all correct with the paper mache horn and swinging tone arm. I can take some pictures for you if you want. I do have a form to make the horns and have made one already and sold it at the Union Phonograph show. They are a bit complex and very time consuming to make. I hope to make some more horns this winter. Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 7:49 PM To: phonolist Subject: [Phono-L] Rare phonogaph cabinet/storage Hi I have a question - A friend of mine found a rare Herzog 742cabinet that fits a cylinder phonograph inside it, and has cylinder drawers below. The model 740, which is similar, is pictured on the cover of Fabrizio and Paul's book Antique Phonograph Gadgets, Gizmos and Gimmicks. It is a rare bird indeed, the only thing is, the proprietary horn is not there. The 740 has a horn attached to the back of the grille which runs by means of a metal tube to the reproducer. Now since both cabinets are different, does anyone know if the 742 had the same proprietary horn? The first incarnation was for outside horn disc machines. Mr's Fabrizio and/or Paul, can you chime in please? John Robles Oh no I am gonna die - I just found out he got it here in my own town! Swoon... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor I elbow needed
Bob, I see this camera isn't much better. This is the pinned style elbow for the early version of the Victor I. There are pins on the flange that are used as stops for the Y hold down. The later ones had a stepped flange. It does need some good cleaning. Let me know if you are still interested. Thanks, Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Bob Maffit Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:34 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor I elbow needed Ken: Wonderful! My Victor I uses the clamp down type of elbow and not the slip in. It clamps down with the thumb screw and the prong / fork clamp. Not the right words but, I think it helps. If it is the correct type, the arrangements are fine. Hope that helps. I am looking forward to the pics. again, thanks Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Ken and Brenda Brekke Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 5:58 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor I elbow needed Bob, Did you find an original Victor I elbow yet? I thought I sold mine at the Union show but I checked my display box and still have it. It is the correct pinned style for the early beveled turntable I. I also have a Victor I tone arm. I am asking 150 for the elbow and will include shipping and insurance. I can send pictures in a couple of days as our camera died and will have to get another one. Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Bob Maffit Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: [Phono-L] Victor I elbow needed Phono listers: I am in need of a Victor I horn elbow. In the event you know of one available, please let me know. An original is preferred however, repro will function until an original can be found. thanks Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0671.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 876933 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20130726/e8a22323/attachment.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0672.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 841194 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20130726/e8a22323/attachment-0001.jpe ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Passing of Larry Schlick, Pioneer phonograph collector
Larry Schlick was a true pioneer in the phonograph hobby and the Union phonograph show. He will truly be missed! Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] early Vic III ?
Is it possible to have a link to pictures? It sounds interesting. Ken B. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Ron L'Herault Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 8:42 PM To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: [Phono-L] early Vic III ? I've just acquired a machine with a plate that reads Type Vic III with serial number 8212 and am wondering if I have got a frankenphono or maybe a machine in transition. It has a slotted winding shaft but it is located to the rear of the case. I'm sure the crank has been fudged. It is tubular an tapered but the down part is not parallel to the side of the case and the wall thickness of the slot end is thicker than that of my Vic Type 6 crank (which fits the III perfectly, BTW). The escutcheon is just a flat plate with two screw holes and a rather large center hole that matches the case hole. I have not found a plugged hole to indicate that a new crank hole has been made either.There are no extra holes in the motorboard. The motor is a Victor motor. It has lead gov. weights. Cabinet size is in the right range. I thought that the reproducer was an early one but even that is in doubt. It had the flat end balance springs and the round needle chuck but the needle chuck has solder showing where it attaches to the rest of the needle bar. It could have been swapped from another reproducer although I don't know why the whole needle bar would not have been used. jamb nuts are the earlier round, grooved edge type rather than nuts. The horn seems to fit correctly, has a rivet and bayonets into the elbow. It is petaled and appears to be brass. Oh, and one last clue, the antiques dealer mentioned that the previous owner had lots of machines and many of them were sold at auction. She acquired it last May along with a Victrola IX which I did not inspect. What are the thoughts of our listmates on this one? Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block
I just can't sit idle with a slam towards Steve. He is one of the nicest and most knowledgeable phonograph collector/historian that I have had the privilege to know. Ditto to George's comment below. Give him a break!!! Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Paul Christenzen Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:12 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block ONE WEEK... come on - Steve's the most honest, reliableand able guy I've met in 40 years of collecting - sheesh...give the guy a chance to breathe before you try to embarrass him!! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Charlie Hummel on TV
Here is the link to the short segment with Charlie Hummel. It is only about a minute long. Hopefully I can find a link to the whole episode. Enjoy!!! http://science.discovery.com/tv-shows/science-channel-presents/videos/edison -shrine.htm -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:22 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charlie Hummel on TV Unfortunately, that is not an option here. We do get the discovery channel. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Reproduction mainspring quality
I have had great service and quality from Ron Sitko for several years. Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Baron Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:37 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: gregory mogle Subject: [Phono-L] Reproduction mainspring quality Could some of the groups technical folks suggest who currently offers the best quality reproduction mainsprings for a conventional Victrola? Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated. I'm familiar with most of the common sources. Andrew Baron Santa Fe ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Very Sad News
I am saddened by the news. Bob was a true treasure and will surely be missed!!! Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola X case needed
John, Actually, this is a DX model. Will it still work for you? I was asking $175 for it all. The case is very nice. Ken -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:40 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Amberola X case needed Hello all I need a cabinet for an Amberola X. Very similar to the Amberola 30, but a deeper ogee type lid. This is for a machine I plan to sell at some point so need something economical..can anyone help?? Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0490.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1904236 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20120717/a2f7e35c/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0491.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1717405 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20120717/a2f7e35c/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0492.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1775264 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20120717/a2f7e35c/attachment-0002.jpg ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Union wishlist
I talked with Ron just before the show and he said he talked with you about the motor. He still has to put one together yet and didn't have one ready for the show. Call when you get back in the good ol' USA. Ken -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Randy Larson Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 2:38 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Union wishlist Ken Did you get my message about getting a motor from Ron Sitco, in Mongolia now and wont be back til June 13 Thanks Randy On Jun 7, 2012 11:49 PM, Ken and Brenda Brekke kb...@charter.net wrote: If anyone has a Remove this Tag to attach Tapered Arm metal tag for a Victor, please contact me at the Union Phonograph show. I set up in the back room in the Northeast corner. I am also on the hunt for Victor volume controls and wooden Victor reproducer boxes. I plan on bringing a large amount of horns, reproducers and other miscellaneous parts for sale along with a project Victor III and some Edison Homes. Thanks, Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Union wishlist
If anyone has a Remove this Tag to attach Tapered Arm metal tag for a Victor, please contact me at the Union Phonograph show. I set up in the back room in the Northeast corner. I am also on the hunt for Victor volume controls and wooden Victor reproducer boxes. I plan on bringing a large amount of horns, reproducers and other miscellaneous parts for sale along with a project Victor III and some Edison Homes. Thanks, Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a Victor IV
Please contact me at kb...@charter.net I tried your email address and my email got rejected. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of elcamino...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 1:30 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Looking for a Victor IV Looking for a Victor IV---anyone looking to sell, please contact me directly at elcamino...@aol.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Possible fraudulent Ebay listing alert.
Well, I guess another fraudulent listing got pulled off of Ebay. I wish there was a way to find these crooks. It had a number of bids on it already. Let's all keep a look out for more. Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steve Andersen Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:56 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Possible fraudulent Ebay listing alert. Steve, This looked like the first legit sale of that machine http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-and-Early-Edison-Bell-Electric-Phonograph- /150769914398?pt=UK_Collectables_RadioTelevision_Telephony_SMhash=item231a9 6521e On May 9, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Steven Medved wrote: Do you know who sold the first one?I just asked the second guy for the serial number of the reproducer. From: kb...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:46:13 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Possible fraudulent Ebay listing alert. This phonograph on Ebay a short time ago as item number 150769914398. It sold for quite a bit. The pictures are the same. I contacted the seller for more pictures. I can't wait to hear his/her response. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-and-Early-Edison-Bell-Electric-Phon ograph- /160797695758?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-and-Early-Edison-Bell-Electric-Pho nograph -/160797695758?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item25704a1f0e hash=item25704a1f0e ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Good News/Bad News
Loran, Thanks for all you do for us Phonoholics!! Ken -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Loran Hughes Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:47 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Good News/Bad News Well, the good news is that photo attachments on Phono-L now work like a charm! Bad news? I accidentally nuked the Phono-L web site. Although I presumed that it was being backed up, it wasn't. It will probably be off line for a couple of weeks, as I rebuild it from scratch. Although that sounds bad, I embrace it as an opportunity to take the site in new directions. Thanks, Loran ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] smoke smell cleaner
Thanks. I will be working on it this weekend. I would really like to bring it into the house but the smell is bad. The smoke smell is almost as bad as some phonographs I have had that had mice nests in them. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Rick Mazur Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 6:47 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] smoke smell cleaner If the inside of thebabinet smells bad too put baking soda in an open container or two and place inside the cabinet. This will eventually remove the smell on the inside. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] smoke smell cleaner
I am sure that we all have bought some old phonographs that came from heavy smokers. I recently purchased a nice oak Herzog cabinet like the one on the front of the Gadgets and Gizzmos book with the paper mache horn inside. It is in excellent condition with the exception that it has a strong odor of smoke. Has anyone had any luck getting the smell out from an old phonograph or cabinet? This cabinet came from the original owners grand-daughter who is in her late 70s. Both her and her husband are heavy smokers. Also, does anyone have any sales literature on these cabinets? I would like to try to get any information on them. I am also currently using this one for a pattern to make the paper mache horn for my other two cabinets like this one that are missing the horn. So far the project is working out pretty good. Thanks in advance, Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] smoke smell cleaner
Thanks. I will give that a try. Ken -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:42 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] smoke smell cleaner I have had great success after going over the cabinet with Kotton Klenser, which will remove the layers of nicotine and reveal a nice finish. The nicotine will come off as a gray residue. Yuck! John Robles From: Ken and Brenda Brekke kb...@charter.net To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 5:04 PM Subject: [Phono-L] smoke smell cleaner I am sure that we all have bought some old phonographs that came from heavy smokers. I recently purchased a nice oak Herzog cabinet like the one on the front of the Gadgets and Gizzmos book with the paper mache horn inside. It is in excellent condition with the exception that it has a strong odor of smoke. Has anyone had any luck getting the smell out from an old phonograph or cabinet? This cabinet came from the original owners grand-daughter who is in her late 70s. Both her and her husband are heavy smokers. Also, does anyone have any sales literature on these cabinets? I would like to try to get any information on them. I am also currently using this one for a pattern to make the paper mache horn for my other two cabinets like this one that are missing the horn. So far the project is working out pretty good. Thanks in advance, Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] MS on Ebay
Check out item 380424785426 on Ebay. Is this a put together Victor MS? A pre-dog case and motor with the record hold down spindle but with a late drop in elbow back bracket and horn elbow. I don't believe the horn would have the alignment button on top either. Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] FeeBay AMET photos
Yes, the zoom change is quite annoying. You can contact the seller to ask for the pictures. I have done this in the past and is a way of verifying that it isn't a fraudulent listing. I always ask for a specific picture or two that aren't on the listing. If the seller replies with It is already boxed or another lame excuse, I don't even bother bidding. If I get the exact pictures requested then I can be pretty sure that they actually have the item. If you click on the large picture while it is zoom mode, it will open up the old larger format. Good luck This is a great machine. Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of clockworkh...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:28 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] FeeBay AMET photos OK, so now FeeBay has an Amet motor machine and I would like to get full sized shots of the machine; but, the only way I can view things is with their stupid magnifier box. Does anyone on this list know how to get full sized shots without the zoom box cropping? This is just one more annoying change FeeBay has made recently. They are like the government, they make ill-thought-out changes just to justify their existence and they don't care who they inconvenience or effect. Thanks for any suggestions, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Alba Gramphone on American restoration...
One other thing to notice is that the son and friend picked out some 45s to play on it at the record store. $1,800 would have bought a very nice original Victor. Ken -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of David Dazer Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:20 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Alba Gramphone on American restoration... Did you see how they restored the motor? Nothing was taken apart, the poor thing was just hosed off with a solvent. Also, did anyone else notice the extra long crank on it? Dave ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Phoenix AZ
I will be in Phoenix Arizona in a couple of weeks for some training. Are there any phonograph related sites to see in the area? Thanks, Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Fireside -
I have a few carriage arms that you can choose from. I will bring them along on Sunday. George Vollema might have the lid hasps. He usually responds to requests here. KB -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Caruso Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 4:53 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Fireside - Hello all - I am looking for a carriage arm and a set of lid hasps for an Edison Fireside model A. The carriage arm is the style that has the little pin in the front. The one on the machine I refinished appears to have had an.accident. Please feel free to contact me if you have one or both of these items for sale. Thanks, AJC ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Stuff I bought at CAPS
It looks like you found some great items. How were the prices at that show? Thanks, Ken B. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:34 PM To: phonolist Subject: [Phono-L] Stuff I bought at CAPS Not that anyone cares, but here are the items I bought at the show. Three machines and some tchotchkes. http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/CAPS%20Buys%202011/ John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Union Phono, music boxe expo for 20012
Mark, The Union show is always the second weekend in June. The show starts on Friday for dealer setup and ends on Sunday. The dealer setup day is open to the public with an early buyer pass which is good for the whole weekend admission. I am sure that you will really enjoy it. Ken -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dawson Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 1:36 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Union Phono, music boxe expo for 20012 I am a humble kiwi who would like to attend the phono show in Union next year ? Have the dates been set for it yet? Always held somtime around the first two weeks in June?Your help would be most welcome! Cheers Mark Dawson New Zealand. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] My Dearborn trip
Thanks for all the replies related to what to see at Greenfield Village. I never thought this question would spark such a spirited debate. I just wanted to make the most of our Model A Ford trip to Dearborn. It should be a great trip and hopefully we'll find some treasures along the way. Ken Brekke Seeing the countryside at 40 mph in our trusty ol' Ford. Now let's not start a debate thread on how fast a Model A should be able to go. I just prefer to take it easy on all the backroads. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Dearborn trip
We will be taking a sort of Pilgrimage in our Model A Ford to Dearborn Michigan in August. This will be a sort of crescendo of both of my hobby interests to visit the Ford Museum and also Greenfield Village and the Edison exhibits. In our travels, we will be staying in Ludington, Saginaw, Romulus, and Grand Rapids. My question to anyone on this list from Michigan is Are there any phonograph related sites to see in these towns? If we have time, I would like to check them out. If anyone has had the opportunity to visit Greenfield Village, what would you recommend to look for and not miss? We will have about 3 ½ days onsite and dont want to miss anything. Thanks, Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Charley
Is there a link to this episode? Ken -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Barry Kasindorf Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 1:46 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Charley Hi, Did anyone else see Charlie buy the Edison doll on Oddities show last night? Someone just walked in off the street (they want you to believe..) and brought in an empty Edison doll to sell, and they went to Charley. Very nice shots of his collection. -Barry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Diamond Disk stylus repair
Does anyone on this list know the specifications for the diamond point for the Edison diamond disk reproducers? Is this something that a jeweler could set? I have heard some pretty high prices for stylus bar repairs and was just wondering if a repair could be done at a local jeweler. Thanks, Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disk stylus repair
Curt, Thanks for the response. I saw those kind of prices out there. I was considering checking with a local jeweler if I could find the specifications of the actual diamond point. The repair cost seems rather high in comparison of the whole reproducer. Thanks, Ken B. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:22 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disk stylus repair A new one is $80 to $100 on a new stylus bar, last time I checked - might have gone up a little since then. You can probably get one from Ron Sitko. If a jeweler could set one it would probably cost that much or more and if your diamond fell out and you have it, it may have been damaged... Curt From: kb...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:17:50 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Diamond Disk stylus repair Does anyone on this list know the specifications for the diamond point for the Edison diamond disk reproducers? Is this something that a jeweler could set? I have heard some pretty high prices for stylus bar repairs and was just wondering if a repair could be done at a local jeweler. Thanks, Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Horn connector for playing an iPod through a cylinder machine
Isn't an iPod that little glass that people would soak their glass eye in? -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of David Dazer Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:46 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Horn connector for playing an iPod through a cylinder machine Can someone explain what an iPod is? :) Dave ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Victor R
Jeff, The orange based stripper works well. Just try it in a small area under the turntable first. It's good to hear that there are still some good finds out there. The tone arm on my Victor Rigid arm R has been buffed by a previous owner that took off most of the nice oxidized finish. The finish behind the swing arm and on the reproducer is fine. My question for everyone on Phono-L is: Is it hard to redo the oxidized finish on a part like this? Or, is there someone that can be recommended to do this type of work? Thanks, Ken B. Wisconsin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor R
Mike, Any suggestions on how to do it? Thanks, Ken -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Mike Stitt Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 5:04 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor R It is not a hard finish to replicate and can be fun to do. Mike ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Sheet music
Thanks to all who emailed me about my sheet music request. I knew I could count on the members of this forum to help me out. Merry Christmas to all Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Victor on Ebay
Has anyone checked out this late Victor IV on ebay? Here is the link to it: http://cgi.ebay.com/Victor-Talking-Machine-Phonograph-V-IV-w-Great-Horn-/180 604116113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 http://cgi.ebay.com/Victor-Talking-Machine-Phonograph-V-IV-w-Great-Horn-/18 0604116113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0cd81c91 hash=item2a0cd81c91 Is it possible that a late Victor would have a speed control with the indicator window? It does have a late serial number and the drop in elbow but I have never seen one with the speed indicator. Or, is it a very well done Crap-o-phone case? Ken ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Sheet music
Does anyone know where I can find sheet music for the following songs? I am not looking for the originals but something I can print out for some local musicians that would like to perform these songs. In the back seat of the old Henry Ford The little old Ford just rambled right along He'd have to get out and get under Thanks for the buggy ride Since Henry Ford apologized to me Thanks, Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Proud new owner?
The suspense is killing me. Is anyone on this list the proud new owner of Ebay item 280594550836? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Bargain recorder NOS
I guess the seller's I.D. says it all!! -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steven Medved Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:52 PM To: phonolist; Phono-l Subject: [Phono-L] Bargain recorder NOS http://cgi.ebay.com/EDISON-PHONOGRAPH-RECORDER-REPRODUCER-T-NOS-BOX-191370-/ 190459275323 If you want one with the stylus holder attached http://cgi.ebay.com/EDISON-PHONOGRAPH-RECORDER-REPRODUCER-H-NOS-BOX-321772-/ 380281354352 That Edison business reproducer for a Christmas gift http://cgi.ebay.com/EDISON-PHONOGRAPH-REPRODUCER-RECORDER-K5071-NOS-HEAD-/38 0281397479 My personal favorite, the H weight with the C top, note the centering V has been knocked off the weight and the new stylus bar with the sound tube hat. http://cgi.ebay.com/USED-EDISON-REPRODUCER-PHONOGRAPH-RECORDER-MODEL-H-4M-/3 80281388051 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Union Show
The Union show has come and gone. The crowds were a bit down year probably due to the weather. It was great to see everyone again. It is almost like a family reunion in a way. I have been attending this show since 1982 and this is the second year that I set up with another collector friend of mine to sell. I was able to part with some excess machines and parts and picked up a nice Rigid arm Victor MS. It had a badly damaged reproducer, beyond repair. I thought I was going to be in for a several year quest to find a replacement reproducer. Shortly after buying the MS, a dealer was unloading his van and had a Rigid arm E parts machine and an extra Rigid arm back bracket. Inside the case was a very nice original Rigid arm reproducer. A dealer I know was already checking out the items and had the reproducer in his hand. He looked at me and said You need to go for this, not me Thank you Craig! My quest to find a Rigid arm reproducer only lasted about two hours. I also found what was described to me as an oversize horn for a Victor Rigid arm M or MS. It is much larger than one used on a front mount machine. One collector has one on his Rigid arm MS. It uses a crane that mounts in the little bracket cover when you remove the front mount support arm. The horn is threaded on the small end and has a hanger ring. The other collector's horn like this still has the Victor decal on it. The one I bought doesn't. You just never know what might show up at Union! Let's hope the Donley's keep this show going for many more years. The recent uprising of a competing show the last few years is a bit disappointing. What the Donley's started 35 years ago has grown into a great event for all of us. They have invested heavily into making this event what it is. If someone wants to start another show, so be it. But, don't siphon off of this show. Pick another time of year and maybe even somewhere else. Sorry, but that's just my 2 cents worth. Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Union wish list
It is that time of year again. The Union phonograph show is just a couple of weeks away. If you have never been to this phonograph show, I would highly recommend attending. Some of the rarest phonographs, parts, and records are available at this show. Several of the best dealers and collectors make the annual pilgrimage to this Holy Grail of phonograph shows. Hopefully, someone might have some items that I am looking for.I am looking for the spring barrel end support stanchion for a pre-dog Victor MS motor. I am also looking for the small wood boxes that Victor Concert or Exhibition reproducers came in. One other part I might need to look for is a reproducer for a Victor rigid arm. If anyone has these parts, please contact me off list at kb...@charter.net Thanks, Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm
Rob, The Vitaphone was surely an interesting machine. Did you ever determine if the one you got from me was a prototype of some sort? Ken -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:58 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm your reproductions are very nice i got a few from you with the machine at union thanks rob In a message dated 4/30/2010 11:14:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kb...@charter.net writes: I see that there is some interest in Vitaphones here lately. If anyone is interested, I have some reprints of original Vitaphone catalogs, brochures, and factory photos. Contact me off list at kb...@charter.net if anyone would like copies. Thanks, Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Keith Wright Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm Thanks for offer Greg. If you email them to the address below, I will post them on the Vitaphone page. Cheers, Keith ke...@keithwright.ca From: gbogan...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:15:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm [snip] I can't remember if Phono-L has a photo hosting page. I can furnish photos of the model 60 if someone can advise where to post them. Greg Bogantz _ Hotmail Messenger. Get them on your phone now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724463 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Another Stanton's update
As expected, the recent Stanton's auction was an exciting experience. There were many high end machines there that brought a wide variety of bidding excitement. The Edison Idelia was very impressive but brought only $20K when the presale expectations were much higher. The Edison Class M in the upright cabinet only went for a little over $10K. Music boxes were a bit soft on prices. The very nice Reginaphone went for around $4K. Many of the front mount Victors were in the $1,200 to a high of around $2,500 for the MS. If anyone has a chance to take in an auction at Stanton's, I would highly recommend it. I ended up with three more Victors for my collection along with a nice record cabinet, Edison Standard, Babson Brothers flowered cylinder horn, and many small items. One of the Victors was a Rigid Arm R. The arm has been resoldered where it attaches to the piece in the back bracket and the finish has been buffed off almost completely. The anodizing on the back bracket is weak but visible. My question is, Does anyone know anyone that restores the anodized finish on parts? Is it hard to do yourself? Thanks in advance for any advice. Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm
I see that there is some interest in Vitaphones here lately. If anyone is interested, I have some reprints of original Vitaphone catalogs, brochures, and factory photos. Contact me off list at kb...@charter.net if anyone would like copies. Thanks, Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Keith Wright Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm Thanks for offer Greg. If you email them to the address below, I will post them on the Vitaphone page. Cheers, Keith ke...@keithwright.ca From: gbogan...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:15:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm [snip] I can't remember if Phono-L has a photo hosting page. I can furnish photos of the model 60 if someone can advise where to post them. Greg Bogantz _ Hotmail Messenger. Get them on your phone now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724463 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] hello all
Scott, Any chance you have a repro gear for a Trademark Berliner? I am looking for the one with the ratchet pawls on it. Contact me off list at kb...@charter.net. Thanks, Ken B. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Scott Malawski Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:48 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] hello all Hey Rob; What parts are you looking for? I have a few repro parts here. Hope you are doing well. Scott. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:54 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] hello all hi a few years ago i got some repro berliner parts from a gentleman named stilek in canada does anyone have his email thanks zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Hardware on Victor M
I have a few of these machines with the same cover. I did see one of these brackets with a rod coming out of it with a clip to hold a metal Victor needle tin in a collection years ago. None of mine have the rod with the clip, just the bracket. Ken B. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john9...@pacbell.net Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:34 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Hardware on Victor M It covers the holes for the old frontmount crane. I have the same thing. Never knew why it had a hole in the bracket though. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me
Congrats Any chance of posting pictures??? Ken B. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Baron Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 6:46 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me From time to time, I've derived vicarious pleasure from reading of some of the phono-L members' coincidental discovery and acquisition of a particularly sought-after or scarce phonograph. In general, most of the membership are in areas that are either more populated, or nearer to denser metropolitan areas than here in Santa Fe, NM. Roll back the calendar a few decades, and my region is pretty sparsely populated, with more ranching than any kind of manufacturing or other work that would draw a larger population. Fewer people = fewer manufactured goods, including phonographs. Add to this the budget for a machine that most New Mexicans had (or prioritized for music) a century or so ago, and you have relatively few phonographs to begin with, and most of those in the low-to-middle cost range. Edison Standards, Victrola IV's, X's and XI's, and low- end Columbias are inevitably the models that turn up, and usually in none too good a condition if not out of a collection. Naturally some desirable machines were brought here later on, but by and large this hasn't amounted to anything significant, and there isn't much of a collecting community here. So opportunities to build a collection are rather limited. That being said, I started collecting in 1974, when I was 12, and my Victor 8-30X, Edison maroon Gem, Edison early A-250 and a Zonophone Grand Opera were all acquired here in Santa Fe, current population 72,000. Not exactly a small town, but outside of Albuquerque, we are geographically isolated from the big population centers. The Zonophone was brought here from New England in the '70s, when its past owner moved here. To the subject at hand: Two days ago, a big local consignment shop was having their annual Fall sale; everything 30% off. This event draws what seems like half of Santa Fe, and while my wife and I usually attend it, we generally wait until late in the day to avoid the pressing crowds. Anyway, most of what the shop sells is vintage furniture, rugs, artwork, etc., some of it quite nice, but rarely anything of particular interest to a phonograph collector, so no penalty for arriving when convenient. We had been browsing around for about a quarter of an hour when the proprietor let me know that there were a couple of Victrolas in the next room. We continued looking around in the part of the store where we currently were, and after about ten minutes more, I finally said that I'd like to take a look and see what the phonographs were. We headed casually across the distance, through the crowds of people and things toward the next room. No sooner had I uttered the words These machines are going to be examples of the most common models, and probably overpriced, than I could see the unmistakable silhouette of Victor XVII or XVIII, just sticking out beyond the wall separating the rooms. Quickening my pace (they were still 20 feet away), I prepared my mind to see a Victor XVII, the alternative possibility being somewhat beyond my powers of imagination. Still, a Victor XVII would be a great find although I already own one (courtesy of a very kind tip from a thoughtful phono-L member, $200, and a 125 mile round-trip to Albuquerque). Coming up alongside the curvy machine, I noticed first that the top curl of the rear corner post was mostly missing -- a clean break from bashing the machine into a wall or truck bed, no doubt. I also noticed the fine, expressive trim on the cabinet side and the chevron- shaped veneer pattern and practically leapt the last couple of feet so I could see the front of the machine, which left no doubt. There's something unbelievable about finding a top-end machine in New Mexico, and even though I have the XVII, and was already well aware of the differences, I had to see the VV-XVIII on the ID plate with my own eyes. The 3-digit serial number was also a strange thing to behold on a New Mexico Victrola. This was a dirty, dusty machine, with some of its edges and trim scraped up from careless handling, but at a glance, in generally good and very solid shape except for a few scrapes and that broken-off upper rear corner piece. Definitely not something out of someone's phonograph collection, and just as you like to find them -- clearly untouched for decades. A quick appraisal of what it had to offer revealed: Original gold V key; Gold needle cup, all original casters, all correct knobs, front and back; Large, gold crank escutcheon detached and screws missing, but still sitting on the crank about a half-inch out from the side of the cabinet; Near perfect felt on the platter; Almost certainly the original gold Exhibition soundbox, Ser. #87347B, never rebuilt; Very,
[Phono-L] Herzog cabinet grill pictures
I am in the process of restoring a Herzog cabinet like the one on the cover of Gadgets and GizzmosWhat I need is a good picture of a grill with a rose design. I have some pictures of other styles of grills but not with roses. If anyone can send me a picture, I would greatly appreciate it. My email is kb...@charter.net Thanks!! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Ken Woodbury links?
Does anyone have any links to photos of Ken Woodbury's displays when he sets up at shows? It sounds quite impressive. Let's hope he has a quick recovery after his surgery on Monday.
[Phono-L] What a Beauty
I wonder if there are multiple pieces of this fine example of art available? They would make fabulous gifts! I wonder if this $ symbol is intended to really mean U.S. dollars though? -Original Message- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of BruceY Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:04 AM To: Phono-l at oldcrank.org Cc: phonolist at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Phono-L] What a Beauty http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/clt/843879502.html My goodness, what a beauty and at such a bargain price!! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Edison Spring Motor
This list has been a great source of information and parts. So I have to ask the members of this list for help again. I recently bought a very nice Edison Spring Motor phonograph without a lid. If anyone has one or knows of one available, please contact me off list at kbab1 at charter.net Thanks, Ken Brekke
[Phono-L] Price for a Columbia AB McDonald
Bruce, If it is any comparison, I paid about $1,500 at Union for a complete mint one with the correct mandrels and aluminum horn about three years ago from one of Jasper Sanfellipo's friends. An original large mandrel is very tough to find as are the aluminum horns. Ken B. -Original Message- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of BruceY Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 6:40 PM To: Phono-l at oldcrank.org Cc: phonolist at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Phono-L] Price for a Columbia AB McDonald I have a chance to buy a Columbia AB (MacDonald) Graphophone in excellent condition. It does not have the large slip on Mandrel to play the Concert Cylinders, but everything else is there, and cabinet is in beautiful shape, and it is in running condition. Serial Number is early in the run 752110. There is a strange little 10 by 4 wide black horn that comes with it which I think is probably off market. What sort of price would you estimate this AB (MacDonald) would be fair?? I looked on ebay and none have sold in the past month or so. Thanks in advance, Bruce ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Another Ebay suggestion
With all the fraudulent listings out there, I always ask the seller for more detailed pictures on substantial items I am interested in. If I receive exactly the pictures I ask for then I feel more comfortable proceeding with a possible sale. There have been a number of Ebay sellers that either say the item is already boxed and I have to refer to the listing for pictures or I don't receive a reply from my request for more pictures. I have also asked for a phone number to call for more information. This has also worked. Ken Brekke
[Phono-L] Union??
I have to say, the Union show was pretty good this year. There were some high end machines there to drool over like a Douglas Victor D, class M electric, Edison Schoolhouse, Homes under glass, a Victor number 10 reproducer, etc... I was very surprised to be able to knock off two of my Union Wish List items. I was offered and ended up buying a very nice Victor A and a very nice Victor Dolphin case B. I also found a New Century Eldridge Johnson reproducer, a nice horn for a Johnson M, and a few other smaller items. It was a great show and even greater time seeing all the other collectors/dealers from around the country. Maybe next year I can afford to go after an Edison under glass. Ken
[Phono-L] Union wish list
Well, the annual pilgrimage to the Union phonograph show is coming up quick. I would like to put out my Wish List for anyone bringing items to sell. I am looking for a Victor A or B, An Edison under glass cabinet and machine, any Rigid arm Victor, any volume controls for Victor or Edison reproducers, an extended wooden tone arm for a Victor M or MS, and an original Triumph cygnet horn crane. I know my list is a long shot but it's worth a try. Please contact me off list at kbab1 at charter.net if you might be bringing any of the items for sale or trade. If anyone else has a Wish List please email us all and see what happens. Thanks in advance, Ken Brekke
[Phono-L] Someone got Lucky!
Congrats on the great buy. Now you can afford to bid on item 160237609193. Ken B. -Original Message- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Eric Boyles Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:30 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Someone got Lucky! John That would have been me... it turned out to be a pretty nice mahogany Victor spear point with original elbow. It had been a good while since I found a bargain. Thanks for noticing, Eric John Pisano wrote: Check out this Buy it now on Ebay. Auction # 330231156293 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] new toy and parts search
Hello to all. I was working in a small town today and took a few minutes of my lunch hour and visited an antique shop. I found an Edison Model D Triumph with an eleven panel cygnet horn and O reproducer. I couldn't believe it when the price mentioned to me was only $425. I guess there are still a few bargains out there. Anyway, it is missing the crane but otherwise in nice condition. Does anyone have an extra original crane to sell or trade? Also, has anyone had any luck getting the old mouse nest smell out of the case? The case on this one was completely full of mouse nest stuff and smell. Thanks in advance for any help. Ken B.
[Phono-L] Wurlitzer P-12
I want to thank everyone for the advice regarding my new toy, a 1934 Wurlitzer P-12. I was referred to a website where I was able to purchase a 74 page service manual. There were also some referrals to help locate parts if I need them. This forum is greatly appreciated. Everyone is very helpful. I hope to tear into the Wurlitzer after the service manual gets here. Thanks again, Ken Brekke
[Phono-L] Possible Ebay fraudulent listing
Please check out Ebay listing number 110236619614. This phonograph was recently listed by a dealer friend I know from Iowa. It is now listed by another seller with the same exact photos and description. Buyer/bidder beware
[Phono-L] Possible Ebay fraudulent listing
I talked with the dealer that originally sold the BY a short time ago on Ebay. It is definitely a highjacked listing. Ken -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Albert Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:33 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Possible Ebay fraudulent listing It is interesting that he asks for a buy it now of $1500. shipping included, yet he did not list a buy it now on ebay. That would mean you would not have any fraud protection if you transacted off ebay. Certainly a BY with a wood horn should go for substantially more than $1500, but who knows. The market is really bad. I recently. sold two nice Vic 5s for 1200. each and I tried for a year to sell them, with no offers. - Original Message - From: Ken and Brenda Brekke kb...@charter.net To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Possible Ebay fraudulent listing Please check out Ebay listing number 110236619614. This phonograph was recently listed by a dealer friend I know from Iowa. It is now listed by another seller with the same exact photos and description. Buyer/bidder beware ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Contact information for Mirek Stehlick?
Mirek Stehlik has an ad in the February MAPS newsletter. His phone number is 519-743-4882 and his email is phonopa...@sentex.ca
[Phono-L] OT-vintage car
I also am into old Model A Fords. I have a 1930 Deluxe Rumble Seat Coupe, a 1931 Deluxe Tudor, and an all original un-restored 1930 Fordor Town Sedan. I drove the Tudor to the Union Show this year putting around 460 miles on it. I am doing a total restoration on the Coupe. This one I have had for almost 18 years and have put on about 40,000 miles on it. I will probably drive the Coupe next year to Union. Someday, my dream is to have a 1931 Model A Ford Tudor Delivery vehicle. Of course it will be advertising Victor phonographs on the side panels and even have some inside in crates. This would be the crescendo of both hobbies. I know for the purists out there that 1931 is to late for having new phonographs in the crate yet but it would be fun anyway. Ken -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of taediso...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 8:15 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] OT-vintage car My daily driver is a 1928 Model A Fordor sedan. I tried putting in a CD player a few years ago but the vibration of the car caused it to skip. If I can ever find tiny speakers that have adequate volume and sound quality I'd love to just stick an Ipod Shuffle behind the dash panel and load it up with period music... Best regards, Rene Rondeau ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Stanton Auction
I was fortunate enough to attend the recent Stanton auction. I agree that the Heavy Hitters were in attendance and some items brought some very high bids. I was able to bring home the mahogany Regina Hexaphone, some Victor horns including one for my front mount M with the extension arm support, a couple of Nipper radiator ornaments for my Model A Fords, a Columbia Q (working with an original horn) for $180, and some miscellaneous parts. The 10% buyer's premium along with the 6% Michigan sales tax almost made me stay away. The sales tax is on the buyer's premium also for a total of 16.6% for us regular/non-dealer collectors. This really adds up fast. It is sad that more and more auction houses are going to this extra money grab mode of operation. Doesn't the seller already pay a commission and expenses? Anyway, enough venting. Some prices I took note of are as follows. Please keep in mind this is the hammer price and the additional fees are not included yet. You do the math. Victor Z 1,300; Columbia BKT 900; Standard A rear mount 550; Victor P 1,100; Columbia AP 550; Canadian Berliner Type B 2,000; First style Columbia AJ 1,100; Zonophone Concert rear mount 1,800; Zonophone C 1,850; Victor Junior 1,900; Columbia BO 1,600; Columbia BH 700; Victor R 1,050; Victor Red Seal Poster with Opera Singers 3,700; Victor E front mount 950; Zonophone D 2,500; Zonophone Home 1,650; Victor rear mount M 1,400; Victor VI 7,000; Victor Rigid Arm E (homemade elbow, arm, and wrong reproducer) 2,200; Edison Triumph w/11 panel horn 1,100; Victor XXV 3,500; Victor II 1,300; Kalamazoo Duplex 6,000; Edison Standard with wood grained cygnet horn-NICE 2,200; Edison Opera (concert on the ID tag) mahogany 11,000; Vita phone 2,000; Berliner Trademark 4,200; Victor MS with wood horn 4,650; victor V with wood horn 3,000; Victor Special K 2,200, early Edison Home 4-latch 1,200; Edison Triumph with wood horn 1,750; Victor O early one 1,400; Victor III with wood horn 2,000; Edison Bijou sign 3,750; Columbia BGT 3,250; Zonophone A 4,500; Edison Ideal-missing the horn, crane, and crank 18,000; a very early Edison Home with the indented brass manderal 11,000; plus many other machines that I didn't take note of after my bid on the Hexaphone. I guess according to some more veteran collectors, this Hexaphone in mahogany might be only one of maybe three known. The rest are always in oak. It didn't work at the auction but I was able to get it working after bringing it home. It sure is a mechanical marvel! The condition and originality of most of the machines were in question. Most of the Zonophone machines had reproduction parts on them. There were some bargains late in the auction when people were running out of funds and many people left after getting what they came for. Well, that's all I can add to the Stanton auction feedback. If anyone has an original wood tone arm for an extended arm front mount Victor M or MS please contact me. Ken Brekke
[Phono-L] Sonora question #1
Richard, I have one of these in a walnut case and can send pictures and measurements to you. I won't have time until the weekend to do it though. Do you have the drawer below to hold the extra reproducers? You can contact me at: k...@charter.net Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Richard Rubin Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:50 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Sonora question #1 I recently picked up a Sonora Elite with a wooden tone arm and lid support and am in the process of restoring it. The lid support is broken at the bottom (I can send a picture or two, if anyone wants to see them) and I'm going to need to reproduce it, which shouldn't be a problem, but I'm wondering: Should the hook at the bottom of the support (it's missing entirely on mine) face the front of the phonograph, or the back? Would it have been made of wood like the support, or was it a separate metal piece? If the lid is fully raised and resting open on the support, exactly how high should the opening be at the front of the phonograph? I welcome all opinions, and thank you in advance for them. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] What's so special about this Ebay listing
Take a look at this Ebay listing, 160091189694. Does anyone know what could be so special to get so much bid activity? What am I missing? Ebay is getting more curious every day. Ken
[Phono-L] Protected Bidding on ebay!
I agree with Jeff's thoughts on Ebay's new bidder ID protection policy. I have avoided bidding on Private listings on Ebay in the past. My feeling is that if there is something to hide then it's not worth taking the chance of being artificially bid up or the listing being fraudulent. Before I bid on an item I always research the seller and other bidders. I always ask the seller to send additional pictures of the item I am interested on. There have been some sellers that don't want to send more pictures or say that all the information I need is in the listing. Needless to say I don't bid on these seller's items. I am sure that we all have had some bad Ebay experiences. Too many times you can find bidders with no history of bidding on phonograph related items all of a sudden bidding again and again on an item. Also, you can sometimes tell if the bidder is located near the seller. With the new policy from Ebay of not revealing the bidder's ID, it will be harder to detect scams. With every new policy that Ebay comes up with it doesn't take long for the professional scammers to find a way around it. This new policy, in my mind, has good intentions. But, I think it will also discourage bidders. Maybe the best way to bid on items is to just put in one bid and not look back at it until it closes and avoid the frustration. It all boils down to what you are willing to pay for an item and whether or not someone else thinks it is worth more. If a shill bidder is the high bidder at the end of the sale then you can be sure that the seller will be relisting it at some time. Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Jeffry Young, D.O. Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:09 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Protected Bidding on ebay! Any experiences or comments on bidder identification protection on ebay?! I am always worried that the bidding is sham bidding in these auctions, artificially raising the price? I actually look for bidders whom I have bid against in the past. This lends towards legitimacy, but also confirms what I am bidding on, others that collect the same thing are also interested. Has anyone bid, or won anything with these bidder identification protected auctions? The seller of the Zonophone-A is doing that with that particular auction. Jeff Young Wisconsin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
