Re: [Phono-L] Another new wax cylinder maker?
Hi Steve, Yes, that's me. It's a part of a very long ongoing project that I started in the late 1970s. I got my cylinder mold about 95% done back around 1984 or so, and it sat unfinished until the summer of 2009 when I finally got around to having the outer steel cylinder bored out to size. It was 2009 when I started seriously working on my brown wax formula. My web site tells the whole story in detail. http://www.richardslaboratories.com Blanks are available for sale now. Chuck Richards Original Message From: srsel...@aol.com To: Phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Another new wax cylinder maker? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 10:17:40 -0400 (EDT) I may be out of the loop on this but I don't ever remember hearing of this guy making wax cylinders. I know of Morris in the UK and Shawn Borri in US but were others aware of this one: _Richards Laboratories - Home_ (http://www.richardslaboratories.com/) Steve Ramm ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Looking for Edison model B reproducer
Hello Everyone, I am looking to purchase an Edison model B reproducer in good working shape. From what I have heard, it has a ball stylus and a lighter weight than a model C reproducer, and is therefore much easier on brown wax than a C, for both reasons. I do lots of test recordings and playback on brown wax. Anyone out there who might have one for sale, let me know. Thanks! Chuck Richards http://www.richardslaboratories.com $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine
Recently I saw a working Edison Standard (model B I think) machine at the Dewitt County Museum. It has a few odd things about it: It has a carriage that has no lift lever. This carriage has teeth on the bottom which engage a spring-loaded rack that's bolted to the carriage-rest. When the rack is moved via its button, the carriage lifts and drops back a couple of grooves. Is this the language-teaching setup? What's odd about it is that there's no way to rest the carriage in the up position, which makes changing records a real hassle. This machine has an end gate, and it also has 2/4 gearing although I can't get it to budge so far out of the 2M gearing. It only has a model H reproducer, which the museum is using to play Gold Moulded 2M records! This machine has the funky early half-a-gearcase-cover So, is this carriage perhaps just missing its left lever? Seems to me that the rack assembly might need to be removed from the carriage rest, and maybe a different carriage substituted, (one that has a lift lever or the button). I am quite familiar with the Standard model D, but those earlier ones such as this one the museum has, are sort of new to me. It has the speed adjustment on the top of the bedplate. Any ideas about what the best thing to do might be to get that carriage so that it can at least rest in the up position? Thanks, Chuck Richards $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part.
How about paying with a postal money order? Just go to the post office, have it made payable to the seller, purchase it, put it in an envelope and mail it to him. It's as good as cash. He can cash it right at his local post office. That way, it should not matter to him whether you exist or not. He gets his money and sends the part to you. Do you really exist or not? Wow!! Now I have heard them all!! Chuck Original Message From: pjfra...@mac.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 14:40:48 -0700 I'm of course baffled by this. In all my years of collecting, I've never encountered anyone who is the slightest bit strange, odd, paranoid, socially awkward, difficult, maladjusted, or otherwise different from the accepted mainstream. And I know none of the rest of you ever ever have, either. (I'm NOT winking. I must have something stuck in my eye.) -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On May 8, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part.
Well, all I know is that one dude in TX ordered some blanks from me, and paid using a U.S. Postal Service money order. I just presented it to the clerk at the post office and she handed me the money. Pretty slick, I thought! Chuck Original Message From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 19:44:38 -0500 The validity of Postal Money Orders can be verified by taking the serial numbers to the USPS and they will call the fraud unit and verify them. Postal Money Orders are real popular for forgery. On 05/08/2013 06:08 PM, chuck richards wrote: How about paying with a postal money order? Just go to the post office, have it made payable to the seller, purchase it, put it in an envelope and mail it to him. It's as good as cash. He can cash it right at his local post office. That way, it should not matter to him whether you exist or not. He gets his money and sends the part to you. Do you really exist or not? Wow!! Now I have heard them all!! Chuck Original Message From: pjfra...@mac.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 14:40:48 -0700 I'm of course baffled by this. In all my years of collecting, I've never encountered anyone who is the slightest bit strange, odd, paranoid, socially awkward, difficult, maladjusted, or otherwise different from the accepted mainstream. And I know none of the rest of you ever ever have, either. (I'm NOT winking. I must have something stuck in my eye.) -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On May 8, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] All dolled up! Edison Doll Parts Needed!
Not sure about where to obtain a reproduction phonograph for an Edison doll. I did read that after the failure of the talking doll, that many hundreds of dolls were sold off cheaply without the phonographs in them. This is why so many dolls show up today without phonographs in them. As far as doll cylinders: Go and find Jean Paul Agnard's web site and have a look there. He made lots of doll records at one time. He even has a fair amount of detailed info on there about how he made them. Chuck Original Message From: kathal...@gmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] All dolled up! Edison Doll Parts Needed! Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:49:34 -0600 Thank you so much for posting that link. Learned something new today. From the Desk of Kat Hall Executive Assistant to Ms. Smith (Publisher) Champagne Book Group Review Coordinator Author Liaison www.champagnebooks.com www.carnalpassions.com www.burstbooks.ca -Original Message- From: Tom Jordan Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:46 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] All dolled up! Edison Doll Parts Needed! Melissa and Nick, Here is a YouTube video of Charlie Hummell buying an Edison Doll for his collection: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN2esotFBpc Tom -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Melissa Ricci Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:38 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] All dolled up! Edison Doll Parts Needed! Hello Everyone, We just got home from an antiques auction where we won an Edison talking doll!! She really looks to be in very good condition for being nearly 120 years old. Unfortunately, she is missing her phonograph. Her bisque head has no cracks and is stamped 224 on the back. She has all four teeth and her paint is clean and bright. There is a cork in the back of the head. Her arms and legs are wood/composite and appear to have been restrung at some point. She is missing a few fingers and one of her big toes. We think we can easily remake these but don't want to over restore her. She has what appears to be a very old, if not original, wig and what looks to be newer doll clothes. We have read a lot about these dolls online to learn about their history. However, we are not sure if replacement phonographs, original and/or repros, still exist in the market. We would like to restore her to as original condition as possible. So, we would need to know what can and should be done and what should be left alone. We have many pictures available to anyone who is interested. Thanks so much! Melissa and Nick ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist
Wow, what a zoo! The mandrel looks all gouged up. Horrors! Taken apart, and put back together by someone who obviously has no clue. What a shame. Better than parting it out though, but still evil. Chuck Original Message From: it...@arvincasas.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:56:08 -0400 I believe it's back on eBay? http://r.ebay.com/THp5oe If this is it, I take it eBay didn't mind her canceling the won part auctions? On 3/25/13 2:42 PM, Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com wrote: Well since it's already disassembled, the buyer will hopefully make sure it gets shipped that way! She originally told me (in all caps - i thought canucks are polite?) that she was parting it out because shipping the whole thing was too complicated. Disassembly has hopefully eased that. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net wrote: I also assume that the phono will be severely damaged in shipment, due to lack of concern of the seller. Jim Nichol On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com wrote: I was afraid of this. I understood Al's intention in notifying the seller of what they were doing -- no one could have anticipated that this seller wouldn't honor the seller/buyer contracts -- but I was instantly worried that the seller, once alerted to the true value, would do something underhanded, again. Greed unfortunately rarely has boundaries. If there's a silver lining, it may be that the machine is put back together and sold intact. I can already picture the damaged screw slots and dings in the wood from the slip of a screwdriver. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Anil Menon wrote: I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of us on this board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after discussions with Al, George and Rene, I decided to save the Amberola. After several efforts to buy the machine outright and offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar offer in my second effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, Leilani Gillard from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this forum, namely, if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet and everything else that came with the machine. Well, I won 5 of the items, lost the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid went unsold. I offered to buy the lid and pay for the rest. The seller came back with a new offer of an additional 500 dollars for the cabinet. I replied firmly no way and asked her to meet her commitment. And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a new twist on the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she is canceling all of the 7 bids and relisting as entire machine...see her principled stance below! What a scream! I guess she wants to get a higher return than what she got...this is adding stupidity on top of greed? Enjoy the read below:-) Anil Dear I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the machine as one unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy who won the horn i wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund back. I hope you understand i am just doing the right thing. It not about the money now. Regards Lelani - peachland250 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304
Steve, Please get in touch with me ASAP about sending the original hinge block that you promised. Thank You! Chuck Richards http://www.richardslaboratories.com Original Message From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:37:27 -0400 For some people money is the most important thing and they purchase machines at low prices just to break them up and maximize profits. Nice to see we have people like John to counterbalance. Steve From: john9...@pacbell.net Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 05:51:05 -0700 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304 What a jerk. I've had machines I knew would sell for more in parts, but I just can't morally do that. John Robles Sent from my i la la la On Mar 23, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com wrote: Well now some of the bits have sold. So uncool to break up a perfectly good machine like that. I contacted him further and politely suggested he reconsider, and he responded: IF SOMEONE WINS ALL THE AUCTIONS I HAVE ON THIS GRAMOPHONE. THEY WILL GET THE COMPLETE GRAMOPHONE. I WILL NOT PART IT OUT - peachland250 Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 21, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com wrote: I contacted the seller today, who is in a relatively remote part of British Columbia, to ask why. The response was that it's easier to ship small parts. Jerk. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:55 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com wrote: It is with great sadness that I note the death of a fine and rare example of an Amberola III. The III wasn't even sick. It played until the bitter end. It's death came at the hands of someone on eBay who decided to part it out. The cabinet, rear inspection door, motor, Diamond A Reproducer, and other parts were drawn and quartered because someone figured they would sell for more than the whole machine. I believe only about 1,200 of these machines were made. They are only rarely found in such nice condition as 304 was. We Edison fanatics will miss her. Best wishes to a very quiet list, Al -Original Message- From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com; phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Mar 21, 2013 6:15 pm Subject: [Phono-L] For sale square box Combination attachment for Edison Standard Phonograph Model B $27.00 Hello, I have photos, $27.00 includes priority mail shipping in a 7x7x6 box. The box is excellent, it does show age the label is brown but all there. It has the smaller box cemented inside with the holder for the Model H reproducer. I have photos if anyone is interested. I paid $20 or $25 for it years ago, with shipping I will about break even. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304
Steve M., Since you have time to post here, but do not have time nor the inclination to return my emails or telephone calls, I have little to no choice but to post here in hopes that you will see this and respond to it. I need for you to send me the original hinge block that you promised me one week ago. I am so sorry to all of the other list members that I must resort to using this list in this way. It will not happen often, nor maybe ever again. This is such an unusual and unexpected circumstance, that I have no other options at this point. Please everyone try to forgive me for doing it this way. But I have exhausted every other option. Chuck Richards Original Message From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:18:34 -0400 Before I knew he was a clown I sent him a note telling him the reproducer was a Diamond A, he sent a note back telling me it was a B. Evidently he is a regular at this. To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: clockworkh...@aol.com Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 02:57:57 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304 I sent this off to the seller and got the same answer as you, Peter: Dear peachland250, A friendly note, the machine you are breaking up is one of only 1,200 Amberola III machines made. The few remaining examples have historically been worth more than the parts since collectors value the machine as a whole and yours has the serial number on the cabinet too. Few collectors will need parts other than the motor and the reproducer. The last time an Amberola III sold at auction here in California, it went for $3,200 and it was not as clean as yours. I would be surprised if you get that much for the various components. My goal was to instill a good case of SELLER'S REMORSE... Since inducing guilt in the face of greed rarely works ! ! ! Regards, Al -Original Message- From: Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sat, Mar 23, 2013 8:00 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304 Well now some of the bits have sold. So uncool to break up a perfectly good machine like that. I contacted him further and politely suggested he reconsider, and he responded: IF SOMEONE WINS ALL THE AUCTIONS I HAVE ON THIS GRAMOPHONE. THEY WILL GET THE COMPLETE GRAMOPHONE. I WILL NOT PART IT OUT - peachland250 Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block
This is a completely on topic post. Sorry for previously mis-posting in Amberola lll topic about this. Steve Medved: I need for you to honor your agreement to ship to me one original hinge block for the reworked Edison model H top. You made this agreement with me one week ago, and have not shown any signs so far of honoring it as of yet. There is still time to fix all of this and to make it right. I will be waiting. Apologies to the forum for using it this way. I wanted one completely properly titled, properly on-topic post about this. Chuck Richards http://www.richardslaboratories.com $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block
I said there is still time to make this right. That is not being a dick. That is telling it like it is. Chuck Original Message From: b...@taney.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:40:28 -0500 Agreed.. I understand you have your differences with Steve, but you don't have to be a dick about it. Bill Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Paul Christenzen pic...@gmail.com wrote: ONE WEEK... come on - Steve's the most honest, reliableand able guy I've met in 40 years of collecting - sheesh...give the guy a chance to breathe before you try to embarrass him!! chuck richards wrote: This is a completely on topic post. Sorry for previously mis-posting in Amberola lll topic about this. Steve Medved: I need for you to honor your agreement to ship to me one original hinge block for the reworked Edison model H top. You made this agreement with me one week ago, and have not shown any signs so far of honoring it as of yet. There is still time to fix all of this and to make it right. I will be waiting. Apologies to the forum for using it this way. I wanted one completely properly titled, properly on-topic post about this. Chuck Richards http://www.richardslaboratories.com $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block
No slamming intended. Just using whatever means are available to resolve this. There are certain tools around, and sometimes they need to be used. Chuck Original Message From: kb...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:45:52 -0500 I just can't sit idle with a slam towards Steve. He is one of the nicest and most knowledgeable phonograph collector/historian that I have had the privilege to know. Ditto to George's comment below. Give him a break!!! Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Paul Christenzen Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:12 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block ONE WEEK... come on - Steve's the most honest, reliableand able guy I've met in 40 years of collecting - sheesh...give the guy a chance to breathe before you try to embarrass him!! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Slamming
Peter and everyone else: Of course I take full responsibility for everything that I have ever done, thought, felt, or typed. Just because some others may not know the full story from my perspective does not detract from my original decision to go ahead with this the way that I did. Right or wrong, good or evil, I did it, and I stand by it. The aforementioned issue is being resolved as we speak. There was no slam intended, just a wakeup call. If you all need to view this as a slamming then so be it. I can take it. I only know this much: What I do and what I make is guaranteed 100% for customer satisfaction. Any problems that ever would arise in an unlikely event will be dealt with promptly and efficiently, no questions asked. There. Make me out to be the bad guy if it makes you all feel better. Chuck Original Message From: pjfra...@mac.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Slamming Steve, was: Attn: Steve Medved,re: original hinge block Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:03:23 -0700 Interesting. Just found a quote online, from someone we're getting to know better today, and which can also be applied to this unfortunate situation: This is indeed unfortunate. But everyone please remember that the people who do things such as this set up bad vibes for themselves in the universe. Sooner or later, those vibes catch up with them. People are ultimately and individually responsible for their deeds, and what ever they do in their lives sticks to them. -- Chuck Richards, from http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2t=12347 So according to your own philosophy, the universe will soon be pointing certain tools right back at you. Hope they're not too sharp. -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 24, 2013, at 6:49 PM, chuck richards chuc...@all2easy.net wrote: No slamming intended. Just using whatever means are available to resolve this. There are certain tools around, and sometimes they need to be used. Chuck Original Message From: kb...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:45:52 -0500 I just can't sit idle with a slam towards Steve. He is one of the nicest and most knowledgeable phonograph collector/historian that I have had the privilege to know. Ditto to George's comment below. Give him a break!!! Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Paul Christenzen Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:12 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block ONE WEEK... come on - Steve's the most honest, reliableand able guy I've met in 40 years of collecting - sheesh...give the guy a chance to breathe before you try to embarrass him!! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304
Thank you for posting that Al! This is just yet another example of the widespread ignorance and greed in which we find ourselves immersed. This kind of stuff happens all of the time, unfortunately. A similar situation happened recently involving a nicely working recorder/reproducer for a Dictaphone model 12 machine. Someone on the TMF list had a mysterious recorder/reproducer pictured, and he was asking what it is. Columbia or Edison? I recognized it as the one for my working model 12 Dictaphone. He had offered to sell it or trade for it. But...guess what? ...By the time I got to asking him for a trade so I could obtain it and have a working spare for my model 12 machine, the reply I got back was: I had no use for it so I scrapped it So, there you go. Only in this case there was not even any monetary gain, nor greed, nor any reason other than ignorance that caused the untimely death of this perfectly fine working unit. Some people are just destructive. One less Amberola lll in the universe, and one less recorder/reproducer for a Dictaphone model 12. Karma. There is still Karma. And a good Karma can easily run over any Dogma. Chuck Richards Original Message From: clockworkh...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: RE: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 01:55:04 -0400 (EDT) It is with great sadness that I note the death of a fine and rare example of an Amberola III. The III wasn't even sick. It played until the bitter end. It's death came at the hands of someone on eBay who decided to part it out. The cabinet, rear inspection door, motor, Diamond A Reproducer, and other parts were drawn and quartered because someone figured they would sell for more than the whole machine. I believe only about 1,200 of these machines were made. They are only rarely found in such nice condition as 304 was. We Edison fanatics will miss her. Best wishes to a very quiet list, Al -Original Message- From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com; phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Mar 21, 2013 6:15 pm Subject: [Phono-L] For sale square box Combination attachment for Edison Standard Phonograph Model B $27.00 Hello, I have photos, $27.00 includes priority mail shipping in a 7x7x6 box. The box is excellent, it does show age the label is brown but all there. It has the smaller box cemented inside with the holder for the Model H reproducer. I have photos if anyone is interested. I paid $20 or $25 for it years ago, with shipping I will about break even. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304
Arvin, Yes, it appears to be that greed, ignorance, and just plain old mediocrity are everywhere. Sometimes even in places where they would least likely be suspected. Chuck Richards http://www.richardslaboratories.com snip Add me to the list. I just had this happen to me recently on th'Bay with a guy trying to auction off an oddball Columbia snip $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] New to phono-l
Greetings! For some time now I have been reading the archives of this list, getting to know who's here and trying to learn new things. The amount of knowledge here is vast. My interest in phonographs is focused mainly on Edison cylinders, although recently I now find myself building up an interest in diamond disc machines. I am 57 years old and worked a good share of years as a draftsman, all before computers were used. After computers came in and took that field over, the fun went out of it for me and I moved on to study electronics and then worked as a technician for GTE, (later named Verizon). I have always liked machines of all sorts and mechanical design work. My life-long phonograph project has been to be able to make my own brown wax recording blanks for use on Edison cylinder phonographs. That project started way back around 1978, when I first started searching out the patent records for early Edison cylinder recording methods. The short version of my story is that since then, I have successfully gotten my mold working properly to cast the blanks. I have also worked out the formula for making the brown wax. That has proven to be a very labor-intensive process, and there are over a dozen variables that must all be controlled simultaneously, in order to end up with a good, quiet, sensitive recording blank. A large part of this work involves eliminating internal defects in the castings, so that the blank ends up having good surfaces available as it is shaved down into. My website is: http://www.richardslaboratories.com I invite everyone who has not visited it yet to please stop by and have a look. I have done my best to provide as much information as I can about my overall process that I use to make these blanks. There are several videos linked from this site. To see the final reaming, shaving, and testing of a new blank, please see my finishing operations video. The recording and playback tests are the last things on that particular video. It runs about 11 minutes. This is the same testing that each blank gets after it is made. Every one of these blanks has its serial number and the date engraved on the title end. They all can be traced to batch numbers and lot numbers of the raw materials, as well as the exact conditions when made. These blanks are for sale. I currently sold out all of my stock that I brought south with me from Illinois to Florida when I came south for the winter. There are about 150 more of these blanks stored in Illinois, ready to be shaved and shipped. By June I will be able to fill more orders for blanks. I am not much of a collector, having only one Edison phonograph. It's Standard model D combination 2/4 machine. It belonged to my grandfather and he bought it used in about 1909. I suppose technically it could be said that I do have a collection of sorts: there are a total of 4 Dictaphone shaving machines, (3 working, one still needs fixing), a Dictaphone model 12 that records and plays, and a Dictaphone Cameo model transcriber that only plays. The Dictaphone shavers work great for shaving the brown wax Edison phonograph blanks. The other Dictaphones work for testing blanks. I also currently have 6 recorders. 5 of those are the later Edison home recorders that have the .002 inch thick mica diaphragms and with the cutter and holder cemented to the diaphragm. Those 5 are all ones that I have rebuilt myself. The 6th one is a new automatic that I just picked up at the Orlando show this January. Have not tried it yet. Chuck Richards $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
