[Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part.
Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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If you ask me, the seller is the fishy one.John Robles --- On Wed, 5/8/13, Arvin Casas it...@arvincasas.com wrote: From: Arvin Casas it...@arvincasas.com Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 11:57 AM Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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I'm of course baffled by this. In all my years of collecting, I've never encountered anyone who is the slightest bit strange, odd, paranoid, socially awkward, difficult, maladjusted, or otherwise different from the accepted mainstream. And I know none of the rest of you ever ever have, either. (I'm NOT winking. I must have something stuck in my eye.) -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On May 8, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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I considered hosting a video on my website in a password protected directory but then I thought it's a long way to go to prove I exist. I fully understand not wanting to get ripped off because it's incredibly easy these days, but at some point you have to take that Indiana Jones leap of faith. What struck me as odd was that even a cleared check was not enough. YouTube ergo Sum. :) Part of me is just sad it's come to this. I've met some great phono pholk here and on other virtual meeting grounds and at no time did I really question who folks said they were (maybe some iffy advice, but not their existence!). That's why I was wondering If this odd little war story of mine has any corollary or precedence with the good fellows here. It's a bit more than just promising to mow your grumpy neighbor's lawn for a summer just to get a peek at his 78's, lol. C'est La Vie Arvin On 5/8/13 5:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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He says all the radio people do it. I don't think so! It might be logical for the seller to post a video of a machine, but not a buyer. Better steer clear of this wacko. Jim On May 8, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Arvin Casas it...@arvincasas.com wrote: I considered hosting a video on my website in a password protected directory but then I thought it's a long way to go to prove I exist. I fully understand not wanting to get ripped off because it's incredibly easy these days, but at some point you have to take that Indiana Jones leap of faith. What struck me as odd was that even a cleared check was not enough. YouTube ergo Sum. :) Part of me is just sad it's come to this. I've met some great phono pholk here and on other virtual meeting grounds and at no time did I really question who folks said they were (maybe some iffy advice, but not their existence!). That's why I was wondering If this odd little war story of mine has any corollary or precedence with the good fellows here. It's a bit more than just promising to mow your grumpy neighbor's lawn for a summer just to get a peek at his 78's, lol. C'est La Vie Arvin On 5/8/13 5:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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Arvin,I have bought numerous things on eBay from all over the world, with no real problems, except one. I didn't want to use PayPal and offered to send cash or a money order drawn on a reputable bank. I know eBay frowns on this practice, but I hate to have the seller pay more fees to use PayPal and I have sent cash to sellers in Germany, Australia, Great Britain, the USA and fortunately have not been ripped off by a seller. The seller acted like this one and said it sounded fishy... I said how could it be fishy if I send you cash or a money order and you wait until you get paid to send me the item - she said she didn't trust money orders. That being said, I am the one taking the risk - she gets paid cash or a money order and I am trusting that she would send the part. I understand that money orders can be forged, but not if she takes it to her bank, deposits it and waits 7-10 days for it to clear, which I had no problem with. What I finally figured out, was that she was not happy with the price it sold for and couldn't think of any other reason to back out... This may be your problem with this seller, since he refused your payment. He probably asked someone else about it and they advised him that he was selling it too cheap. Could this be your issue? Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 17:52:20 -0400 From: it...@arvincasas.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. I considered hosting a video on my website in a password protected directory but then I thought it's a long way to go to prove I exist. I fully understand not wanting to get ripped off because it's incredibly easy these days, but at some point you have to take that Indiana Jones leap of faith. What struck me as odd was that even a cleared check was not enough. YouTube ergo Sum. :) Part of me is just sad it's come to this. I've met some great phono pholk here and on other virtual meeting grounds and at no time did I really question who folks said they were (maybe some iffy advice, but not their existence!). That's why I was wondering If this odd little war story of mine has any corollary or precedence with the good fellows here. It's a bit more than just promising to mow your grumpy neighbor's lawn for a summer just to get a peek at his 78's, lol. C'est La Vie Arvin On 5/8/13 5:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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How about paying with a postal money order? Just go to the post office, have it made payable to the seller, purchase it, put it in an envelope and mail it to him. It's as good as cash. He can cash it right at his local post office. That way, it should not matter to him whether you exist or not. He gets his money and sends the part to you. Do you really exist or not? Wow!! Now I have heard them all!! Chuck Original Message From: pjfra...@mac.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 14:40:48 -0700 I'm of course baffled by this. In all my years of collecting, I've never encountered anyone who is the slightest bit strange, odd, paranoid, socially awkward, difficult, maladjusted, or otherwise different from the accepted mainstream. And I know none of the rest of you ever ever have, either. (I'm NOT winking. I must have something stuck in my eye.) -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On May 8, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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I just have to make a comment about collectors...WE are the weirdest bunch of folks around. Over the years of collecting phonos, radios, and records, I have met paranoids, cheapskates, grumpy old guys, loony right-wingers, guys with guns and/or big rolls of hundred dollar bills, hoarders, religious fanatics, liars, cultists, shut-ins, guys with rats and roaches in their houses, boasters, know-it-alls, snobs, and a bunch of really nice guys who just love old stuff. Hey, wait a minute! That sounds a lot like the rest of the population! Regards, GreenMountainBill On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Arvin Casas it...@arvincasas.com wrote: I considered hosting a video on my website in a password protected directory but then I thought it's a long way to go to prove I exist. I fully understand not wanting to get ripped off because it's incredibly easy these days, but at some point you have to take that Indiana Jones leap of faith. What struck me as odd was that even a cleared check was not enough. YouTube ergo Sum. :) Part of me is just sad it's come to this. I've met some great phono pholk here and on other virtual meeting grounds and at no time did I really question who folks said they were (maybe some iffy advice, but not their existence!). That's why I was wondering If this odd little war story of mine has any corollary or precedence with the good fellows here. It's a bit more than just promising to mow your grumpy neighbor's lawn for a summer just to get a peek at his 78's, lol. C'est La Vie Arvin On 5/8/13 5:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org -- From The Hubbard House On the park in Rochester, Vermont where it's always 1929. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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I think the word money order scared her,. I get offered money orders on Craigslist all the time, alone with offers of extra money to hold the item, etc. Stolen money orders are a big business and the basis of a lot of scams.She could have taken cash though.John --- On Wed, 5/8/13, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. To: phono-l@oldcrank.org phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 4:00 PM Arvin,I have bought numerous things on eBay from all over the world, with no real problems, except one. I didn't want to use PayPal and offered to send cash or a money order drawn on a reputable bank. I know eBay frowns on this practice, but I hate to have the seller pay more fees to use PayPal and I have sent cash to sellers in Germany, Australia, Great Britain, the USA and fortunately have not been ripped off by a seller. The seller acted like this one and said it sounded fishy... I said how could it be fishy if I send you cash or a money order and you wait until you get paid to send me the item - she said she didn't trust money orders. That being said, I am the one taking the risk - she gets paid cash or a money order and I am trusting that she would send the part. I understand that money orders can be forged, but not if she takes it to her bank, deposits it and waits 7-10 days for it to clear, which I had no problem with. What I finally figured out, was that she was not happy with the price it sold for and couldn't think of any other reason to back out... This may be your problem with this seller, since he refused your payment. He probably asked someone else about it and they advised him that he was selling it too cheap. Could this be your issue? Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 17:52:20 -0400 From: it...@arvincasas.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. I considered hosting a video on my website in a password protected directory but then I thought it's a long way to go to prove I exist. I fully understand not wanting to get ripped off because it's incredibly easy these days, but at some point you have to take that Indiana Jones leap of faith. What struck me as odd was that even a cleared check was not enough. YouTube ergo Sum. :) Part of me is just sad it's come to this. I've met some great phono pholk here and on other virtual meeting grounds and at no time did I really question who folks said they were (maybe some iffy advice, but not their existence!). That's why I was wondering If this odd little war story of mine has any corollary or precedence with the good fellows here. It's a bit more than just promising to mow your grumpy neighbor's lawn for a summer just to get a peek at his 78's, lol. C'est La Vie Arvin On 5/8/13 5:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin
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That's an interesting thought. When we were discussing price I finally offered him 3x what he paid for (he mentions the price he found it for in his video). He had originally asked for 4x. Oddly he settled on $5 LESS than my final offer. I wonder if he wants his $5? He had already calculated shipping before he said his price (based on my Zip Code which I gave him with my ENTIRE address) so I don't think he is balking due to shipping, I hope. He did say he also wanted video proof to track my use of the part in my restoration. I can understand a reluctance to sell a whole unit to a chop shop, but this is a part - an old, quite heavy speaker. I don't plan on repurposing the cone as a birthday hat and the metal for a door stop. It's the weirdest buy I've encountered. If anything, if I ever end up with the piece, it'll be the highlight of my restoration tour! On 5/8/13 7:00 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: Arvin,I have bought numerous things on eBay from all over the world, with no real problems, except one. I didn't want to use PayPal and offered to send cash or a money order drawn on a reputable bank. I know eBay frowns on this practice, but I hate to have the seller pay more fees to use PayPal and I have sent cash to sellers in Germany, Australia, Great Britain, the USA and fortunately have not been ripped off by a seller. The seller acted like this one and said it sounded fishy... I said how could it be fishy if I send you cash or a money order and you wait until you get paid to send me the item - she said she didn't trust money orders. That being said, I am the one taking the risk - she gets paid cash or a money order and I am trusting that she would send the part. I understand that money orders can be forged, but not if she takes it to her bank, deposits it and waits 7-10 days for it to clear, which I had no problem with. What I finally figured out, was that she was not happy with the price it sold for and couldn't think of any other reason to back out... This may be your problem with this seller, since he refused your payment. He probably asked someone else about it and they advised him that he was selling it too cheap. Could this be your issue? Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 17:52:20 -0400 From: it...@arvincasas.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. I considered hosting a video on my website in a password protected directory but then I thought it's a long way to go to prove I exist. I fully understand not wanting to get ripped off because it's incredibly easy these days, but at some point you have to take that Indiana Jones leap of faith. What struck me as odd was that even a cleared check was not enough. YouTube ergo Sum. :) Part of me is just sad it's come to this. I've met some great phono pholk here and on other virtual meeting grounds and at no time did I really question who folks said they were (maybe some iffy advice, but not their existence!). That's why I was wondering If this odd little war story of mine has any corollary or precedence with the good fellows here. It's a bit more than just promising to mow your grumpy neighbor's lawn for a summer just to get a peek at his 78's, lol. C'est La Vie Arvin On 5/8/13 5:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too
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The validity of Postal Money Orders can be verified by taking the serial numbers to the USPS and they will call the fraud unit and verify them. Postal Money Orders are real popular for forgery. On 05/08/2013 06:08 PM, chuck richards wrote: How about paying with a postal money order? Just go to the post office, have it made payable to the seller, purchase it, put it in an envelope and mail it to him. It's as good as cash. He can cash it right at his local post office. That way, it should not matter to him whether you exist or not. He gets his money and sends the part to you. Do you really exist or not? Wow!! Now I have heard them all!! Chuck Original Message From: pjfra...@mac.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 14:40:48 -0700 I'm of course baffled by this. In all my years of collecting, I've never encountered anyone who is the slightest bit strange, odd, paranoid, socially awkward, difficult, maladjusted, or otherwise different from the accepted mainstream. And I know none of the rest of you ever ever have, either. (I'm NOT winking. I must have something stuck in my eye.) -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On May 8, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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Well, all I know is that one dude in TX ordered some blanks from me, and paid using a U.S. Postal Service money order. I just presented it to the clerk at the post office and she handed me the money. Pretty slick, I thought! Chuck Original Message From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 19:44:38 -0500 The validity of Postal Money Orders can be verified by taking the serial numbers to the USPS and they will call the fraud unit and verify them. Postal Money Orders are real popular for forgery. On 05/08/2013 06:08 PM, chuck richards wrote: How about paying with a postal money order? Just go to the post office, have it made payable to the seller, purchase it, put it in an envelope and mail it to him. It's as good as cash. He can cash it right at his local post office. That way, it should not matter to him whether you exist or not. He gets his money and sends the part to you. Do you really exist or not? Wow!! Now I have heard them all!! Chuck Original Message From: pjfra...@mac.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 14:40:48 -0700 I'm of course baffled by this. In all my years of collecting, I've never encountered anyone who is the slightest bit strange, odd, paranoid, socially awkward, difficult, maladjusted, or otherwise different from the accepted mainstream. And I know none of the rest of you ever ever have, either. (I'm NOT winking. I must have something stuck in my eye.) -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On May 8, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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Since he was asking 4x and agreed to $5 less than your offer of 3x, it probably has to do with the price. However, since he wants a video of the part actually being used in your restoration, who knows? A lot of people are using radio speakers for iPod docks and he might want to make sure that you aren't one of those people... From: chuc...@all2easy.net To: rich-m...@octoxol.com; phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 18:30:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Well, all I know is that one dude in TX ordered some blanks from me, and paid using a U.S. Postal Service money order. I just presented it to the clerk at the post office and she handed me the money. Pretty slick, I thought! Chuck Original Message From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 19:44:38 -0500 The validity of Postal Money Orders can be verified by taking the serial numbers to the USPS and they will call the fraud unit and verify them. Postal Money Orders are real popular for forgery. On 05/08/2013 06:08 PM, chuck richards wrote: How about paying with a postal money order? Just go to the post office, have it made payable to the seller, purchase it, put it in an envelope and mail it to him. It's as good as cash. He can cash it right at his local post office. That way, it should not matter to him whether you exist or not. He gets his money and sends the part to you. Do you really exist or not? Wow!! Now I have heard them all!! Chuck Original Message From: pjfra...@mac.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 14:40:48 -0700 I'm of course baffled by this. In all my years of collecting, I've never encountered anyone who is the slightest bit strange, odd, paranoid, socially awkward, difficult, maladjusted, or otherwise different from the accepted mainstream. And I know none of the rest of you ever ever have, either. (I'm NOT winking. I must have something stuck in my eye.) -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On May 8, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono
