[PHP-DEV] __call for the namespaces

[Brad LaFountain]

This idea spawned from playing with ext/rpc and the ability to declare
class types on the fly

Since zend_namespaces is really _zend_class_entry I think it would
be cool to implement __call at the namespace level.

namespace java {
 function __call($classname) {
   // this will be called every time a new java::$classname() is called
   // and $classname isn't defined
   eval("
class $classname {
}
   ");
   // and it can return the new class
   return new $classname();
 }
}

This doesn't seem like it would be too hard to implement and it will allow me
to do stuff like...

http://server/some.wsdl";);
 // $s could be the namespace defined in the wsdl and of class myObject
?>

ps:
doSomething();
?>
results in...
Fatal error:  Internal Zend error - Missing class information for  in

c:\php\php5\Release_TSDbg\name.php(7) : eval()'d code on line 2


 - Brad



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Re: [PHP-DEV] RPC Extension

[Brad LaFountain]

Other issues:
1) Passing This to callbacks
Also I think we should pass getThis() to the handlers too
rpc_call(zval *this, rpc_string, void *, zval *, int, zval *** TSRMLS_DC);

2) Return object types
I see that the rpc layer is actually trying to register a new zend class
for every new Com("someclass"); and someclass will actually be a class... now
how does that work for return values. 
$j = new Java("java.util.Vector"); // now $j will be of type 'Vector'
$j->add("string");
$e = $j->elements(); 
/*
 now this returns type 'Enumeration' but since it wasn't called new Java()
*/
how do you register 'Enumeration' so it will be created like Vector was.

A similar thing is exceptions.. Do we want to auto register exceptions..
you could so something like this

try {
 $j = new Java("java.util.Stack");
 $j->pop();
} catch(java:util:EmptyStackException $e) {
 $e->printStackTrace();
}

3) Namespaces
RPC should probally auto-register the class with a namespace too. 
rpc_name(rpc_string hash, rpc_string *name, rpc_string *ns, void *data, int
type);

so in the case of java.util.Vector we could register Vector in the java:util
namespace.

4) Segfault
RPC was segfaulting in rpc_objects_new()

I changed this part...
zend_ts_hash_init(&intern->function_table, 0, NULL, NULL, TRUE);
/*  intern->function_table.reader = 0;
intern->function_table.mx_reader = tsrm_mutex_alloc();
intern->function_table.mx_writer = tsrm_mutex_alloc();*/
5) Possible Feature
>From what i understand too you can do stuff like this...

$c1 = new com('test');
$c2 = new test();

$j1 = new java('java.util.Stack');
$j2 = new java:util:Stack();

Right (if we implemented the namespace thing)?

now what i find interesting if we can come up with a way to get rid of the
inital
$j1 = new java('java.util.Stack');
and skip right to doing this
$j2 = new java:util:Stack();

I don't know if thats possible.. maybe with some of the autoload() ideas, or
even better having the rpc layer set a namespace that it 'listens to' and every
time a new (defined ns)::Class() is called then it would call the extensions
ctor and try to register the class

ex..
$j = new com:some_com_class(); // where the com extension registerd for the com
ns
or
$j = new php_java:java:utils::Vector(); // and the java ext registered php_java

well anyways it would be pretty cool.

.
.
.

If you couldn't tell im trying to convert ext/java to ext/rpc/java. I got the
functions down, im still learning what ext/rpc is actually doing. But i'll
really need the zend *this; to go forward just from the way the old ext/java
works.

 - Brad

--- Brad LaFountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was just playing with the RPC extension.
> 
> Don't you think that the rpc layer should pass along TSRMLS_CC to
> all of the callbacks?
> 
> rpc_call(rpc_string, void *, zval *, int, zval *** TSRMLS_CC);
> 
> - Brad
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[PHP-DEV] RPC Extension

[Brad LaFountain]

I was just playing with the RPC extension.

Don't you think that the rpc layer should pass along TSRMLS_CC to
all of the callbacks?

rpc_call(rpc_string, void *, zval *, int, zval *** TSRMLS_CC);

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Re: [PHP-DEV] iterating objects with interfaces

[Brad LaFountain]

This IS pretty cool stuff. 

 Just a comment about the namespace, as i see more of these things added
as time goes on. since you are already adding the 'spl' namespace why
are you prefixing the classes with the namespace still? This is the whole
point of using namespaces.

I feel it should be
spl::foreach
spl::forward
spl::key

btw. what does 'spl' stand for?

 - Brad
--- Andrei Zmievski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Very cool. :)
> 
> On Sun, 09 Mar 2003, Marcus Börger wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> >  i've just done the first step for a new extension which shall make use
> > of interfaces newly implemented in ZE2.
> > 
> > currently the extension implements the namespace "spl" and the
> > interfaces "spl_foreach", "spl_forward" and "spl_key". A class that
> > implements these can be used in a foreach() call. This work without
> > even modifying the engine, i simply hook on the necessary calls.
> > 
> > References:
> > 
> > The documentation of the interfaces and their usage:
> > http://marcus-boerger.de/php/ext/spl/spl.phps
> > 
> > The extension code:
> > http://marcus-boerger.de/php/ext/spl/spl-20030309.tar.bz2
> > 
> > And a testfile to demonstrate it works (beside shutdown):
> > http://marcus-boerger.de/php/ext/spl/tests/foreach.phpt
> > 
> > Of corse i am curious about other meanings :-)
> > Otherwise i wouldn`t have posted here, would i?
> > 
> > regards
> > marcus
> > 
> > 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] bug in zend_API.c (with patch)

[Brad LaFountain]

Why can't you just simply name your classes all lowercase. All of the
extensions currently do this and it works fine.

 - Brad
--- Eric Lambart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> After a short bout of hair-pulling, I have discovered the source (in the
> Zend engine) of a recent problem, and have fixed it.
> 
> BACKGROUND:
> As I have mentioned previously on this list, I am developing a complex
> PHP extension, which among many other things creates its own PHP
> classes, and when these classes are instantiated, I manually call the
> class constructor (as one must) from my C code.
> 
> I am creating the extension from existing C++ and Java versions of the
> same system, so I am trying to maintain things as much as possible,
> including names (including capitalization) of classes and functions
> (although I am prefixing them all with "eo_" to avoid potential
> conflicts with functions and classes from other PHP extensions).
> 
> Thus, I have classes such as "eo_list", "eo_table" and "eo_NVList".  
> 
> THE SYMPTOM:
> I had no trouble instantiating and calling the constructors for the
> first two classes, but when I tried to do it for eo_NVList,
> call_user_function_ex() was returning FAILURE, which I discovered can
> occur for one of seven reasons.
> 
> I tracked down the problem to a failure of zend_hash_find() to lookup
> the function.  Using zend_hash_display() I was able to verify that the
> eo_NVList constructor was indeed contained in the function table for the
> eo_NVList class.
> 
> THE PROBLEM:
> call_user_function_ex() is converting the requested function name to
> lower case (at zend_execute_API.c:463) before performing the
> zend_hash_find(), but zend_register_functions() (in zend_API.c) does NOT
> convert the function names to lower case before storing them in the
> function table--so call_user_function_ex() was searching for a function
> called "eo_nvlist" and could never find "eo_NVList"!
> 
> Class lookups worked fine of course, because object_init_ex() takes a
> pointer to the class entry rather than a name.
> 
> Additionally, zend_register_internal_class() (also in zend_API.c)
> converts all class names to lower case, and execute() (in
> zend_execute.c) does the same when looking up a class to instantiate it
> from a script.
> 
> I haven't looked into script-driven function registration and execution,
> but presumably case-insensitivity is properly supported there, or I'm
> sure you would have heard of it long ago!
> 
> MY SOLUTION:
> I present the following little patch for your approval.
> 
> I apologize that it is done against 4.3.1 rather than the latest CVS but
> I do not have time to deal with CVS at this time, as my project is
> already behind schedule and of course I need to work with a stable
> engine.  If zend_API.c has changed since the 4.3.1 release, it should be
> trivial to change these few lines of code (yes, I'm sure they all say
> that!). =)
> 
> I didn't find any patch submission guidlines in a quick web search; I'm
> afraid you'll have to change the file/pathnames in the first lines.  If
> you don't want to deal with that, point me to the guidelines and I will
> resubmit the patch.  For now I will get back to work.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Eric Lambart
> 
> --- Zend/OLD_zend_API.c   Wed Oct  9 07:17:52 2002
> +++ Zend/zend_API.c   Fri Mar  7 13:10:38 2003
> @@ -1039,6 +1039,12 @@
>   internal_function->type = ZEND_INTERNAL_FUNCTION;
>   
>   while (ptr->fname) {
> +/* store all function names in lower case so they will always be found
> by
> + * call_user_function_ex() */
> +size_t fname_len = strlen(ptr->fname);
> +char *lowercase_name = zend_strndup(ptr->fname, fname_len);
> +zend_str_tolower(lowercase_name, fname_len);
> +
>   internal_function->handler = ptr->handler;
>   internal_function->arg_types = ptr->func_arg_types;
>   internal_function->function_name = ptr->fname;
> @@ -1047,7 +1053,7 @@
>   zend_unregister_functions(functions, count, 
> target_function_table
> TSRMLS_CC);
>   return FAILURE;
>   }
> - if (zend_hash_add(target_function_table, ptr->fname, 
> strlen(ptr->fname)+1,
> &function, sizeof(zend_function), NULL) == FAILURE) {
> + if (zend_hash_add(target_function_table, lowercase_name, fname_len+1,
> &function, sizeof(zend_function), NULL) == FAILURE) {
>   unload=1;
>   break;
>   }
> 
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [SOAP] PEAR / Soap Problem

[Brad LaFountain]

sorry, ignore this, wrong list
--- Brad LaFountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well the PEAR::Soap is defintly more stable and has more features and
> supports
> more of the soap spec, where PECL/soap is written in C and is faster. There
> are
> some people using PECL/soap in production but it defintly still is still in a
> unstable mode. So its purely up to your needs.
> 
>  - Brad


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[PHP-DEV] Re: [SOAP] PEAR / Soap Problem

[Brad LaFountain]

Well the PEAR::Soap is defintly more stable and has more features and supports
more of the soap spec, where PECL/soap is written in C and is faster. There are
some people using PECL/soap in production but it defintly still is still in a
unstable mode. So its purely up to your needs.

 - Brad
--- Steve Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cool, thanks for clearing that up.
> Would anyone here recommend one over the other?  I've obviously only
> used the PEAR::Soap library.  Thanks
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 10:21, Brad LaFountain wrote:
> > Well, there are in fact TWO different soap libaries in soap that you both
> are
> > referring to PEAR::Soap and a soap in pecl, he was referring to the PECL
> one
> > not the PEAR::Soap, i know this is confusing... one is writtin in php where
> the
> > other is written as a php extension in c.
> > 
> >  - brad
> > --- Steve Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > First, I don't know of a module(compiled object file), although there
> > > may be?  As far as I know you only have to include the PEAR/php module
> > > like so:
> > > include("SOAP/Client.php");
> > > 
> > > And the sample file in my source shows something more like this:
> > > 
> > > $wsdl = new
> > >
> >
>
SOAP_WSDL("http://services.xmethods.net/soap/urn:xmethods-delayed-quotes.wsdl";);
> > > $soapclient = $wsdl->getProxy();
> > > 
> > > -Luck
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 04:50, Bruns Jan wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > I have got a question regarding your Pear / SOAP Package. After
> installing
> > > > Pear and the Soap package I am not able to execute the following PHP
> > > script:
> > > > 
> > > > //simple example to check soap extension client is working..
> > > > dl('soap.so');
> > > > echo "create client\n";
> > > > $soapclient = new
> > > >
> > >
> SoapObject("http://services.xmethods.net/soap/urn:xmethods-delayed-quotes.ws
> > > > dl");
> > > > echo "sending getquote\n";
> > > > $ret = $soapclient->getQuote("ibm");
> > > > print_r($ret);
> > > > echo "done";
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The problem is that 'soap.so' is not found at all on the system. The
> > > > following message comes up:
> > > > Warning: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/soap.so' -
> > > > /usr/lib/php4/soap.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> > > > directory in /var/www/html/test.php on line 11
> > > > 
> > > > Where is soap.so distributed?
> > > > Have you got any suggestions? I am using Rad Hat 7.3, and the Soap
> 0.7.1
> > > > package.
> > > > 
> > > > Any Help Would be appreciated!
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
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Re: [PHP-DEV] ZE2 , static variables and friends

[Brad LaFountain]

Check your syntax I don't know how many times people have asked a question
like this and they mess up the $'s

 class test {
 static $foo = '';
 }
 class test2 {
 var $how = 3;
 }
 
 $bar = new test2;
 test::$foo = $bar;
 
 echo "How ? ".test::$foo->how;

where you had
 echo "How ? ".test::$foo->$how;

now what php is trying to do here, is derefrence the local variable $how which
has no value and then get the property of $foo with the value of nothing

if you said
$how = 'how';
then did
 echo "How ? ".test::$foo->$how;

then you would get the correct output. Get it?

 - Brad


--- Mickael BAILLY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Why can't I do this:
> --
> class test {
> static $foo = '';
> }
> class test2 {
> var $how = 3;
> }
> 
> $bar = new test2;
> test::$foo = $bar;
> 
> echo "How ? ".test::$foo->$bar;
> --
> output gives me 'How ? '
> 
> Is it a PHP/ZE2 bug? If not, how to do that right ?
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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP in 2003 (leading to PHP 5)

[Brad LaFountain]

> 3.  Bundle PHP-Soap (and stop the "bleeding of PHP users")

 I know I've been saying for a while now that I'm going to start working on
this again but I have yet to do it. I do plan to work on this again. I would
like to see it bundled with php5 but it defintly needs some work. If its
possible I would like to get a general timeline for a cycle of php5 so I can
know if I can get it to a release level before then or if I need help. I know
there are other issues with it too... like bundling libxml2 but they can all be
worked out.

as you can notice I stripped out all the rest of the email ;)

 - Brad


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Re: [PHP-DEV] T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM

[Brad LaFountain]

--- Bertrand Mansion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> 
> > 
> > --- Bertrand Mansion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote?:
> >> 
> >>> $classname::method() === call_user_func(array($classname,'method'));
> >> 
> >> No. $classname::method() is illegal and is in no case === to
> >> call_user_func(array($classname,'method')) as you state it.
> >> 
> >> Class foo {
> >> function bar() {
> >> echo $this->param;
> >> }
> >> }
> >> 
> >> Class MyObject {
> >> var $param;
> >> function MyObject($param) {
> >> $this->param = $param;
> >> foo::bar();
> >> }
> >> }
> >> 
> >> $obj = new MyObject('out of this');
> >> 
> >> will print 'from MyObject'.
> > 
> > 
> > This SHOULDN'T print 'out of this', This seems like a bug, and you
> SHOULDN'T
> > depend on this functionality. The scope of $this inside class foo method
> bar,
> > Should be to foo::bar NOT MyObject::MyObject. Which if my memory serves me
> > right $this inside a static method will just be the string of the current
> > class?
> 
> Hi Brad,
> 
> Are you sure about that ? The manual states that this is the normal
> behaviour which I find very handy and useful in many cases. I see a lot of
> possibilities with this feature, for instance a way to develop some kind of
> plug-ins for existing classes without having to extend them.

 Where in the manual do you see this? 

> 
> This can probably lead to some dangerous code but this goes far beyond my
> knowledge.

 besides dangerous code if you find yourself doing this, you probally aren't
designing it correct. Your creating a static method of a class to access local
properties of another class thru the use of $this. If you want a way to access
member variables from a class in a static method, pass the object refrence into
the method.

 Class foo {
 function bar($obj) {
 echo $obj->param;
 /* $this should referr to the foo refrence, not another class refrence
*/
 }
 }
 
 Class MyObject {
 var $param;
 function MyObject($param) {
 $this->param = $param;
 foo::bar($this);
}
}

 - Brad



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Re: [PHP-DEV] T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM

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--- Bertrand Mansion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> 
>  I guess I am going to have to write stupid code such as:
>  
>  switch ($param1) {
>  case 'parser1':
>  return parser1::method();
>  case 'parser2':
>  return parser2::method();
>  }
> >>> 
> >>> call_user_func(array($param1, 'method'));
> >> 
> >> No. Undefined variable this in $param1. Get it ?
> >> 
> > No.  The code you displayed (in the switch block) is 100% identical to the
> > code Derick offered (except for the fact that Derick's example will handle
> > any class name while yours is limited).
> > 
> > $classname::method() === call_user_func(array($classname,'method'));
> 
> No. $classname::method() is illegal and is in no case === to
> call_user_func(array($classname,'method')) as you state it.
> 
> Class foo {
> function bar() {
> echo $this->param;
> }
> }
> 
> Class MyObject {
> var $param;
> function MyObject($param) {
> $this->param = $param;
> foo::bar();
> }
> }
> 
> $obj = new MyObject('out of this');
> 
> will print 'from MyObject'.


 This SHOULDN'T print 'out of this', This seems like a bug, and you SHOULDN'T
depend on this functionality. The scope of $this inside class foo method bar,
Should be to foo::bar NOT MyObject::MyObject. Which if my memory serves me
right $this inside a static method will just be the string of the current
class?

> 
> While,
> 
> Class MyObject {
> var $option;
> function MyObject($option) {
> $this->option = $option;
> call_user_func(array('foo', 'bar'));
> }
> }
> 
> will return 'Undefined variable: this'...

 This should be the way that both examples function.

 $this is a refrence to the current object. inside a static method like
foo::bar() there is no $this defined because its static.


 - Brad



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Re: [PHP-DEV] FR: echo line

[Brad LaFountain]

Do you realize how ugly that is? What benifit would that have over something
way more readable like:
\n";
}
?>
-Brad

--- Jari Vuoksenranta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a feature request: I'd like to have '#' comment like
> macro which would expand "_ foo" to "?> foo\n 
> Has this been requested before?  If so, why it wasn't implented?
> 
> e.g.
> "
>for(..) {
>   _   
>   }
> ?>
> "
> would echo "\t\n" to page.
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: persistent java virtual machine under PHP

[Brad LaFountain]

--- Akos Maroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ivan Ristic wrote:
> >   I do not think that is possible, unless PHP engine itself
> >   is contained within a single process (and runs multithreaded).
> >   Which it isn't (under Apache 1.x & , at least).
> 
> I'm not familiar in general with the PHP engine, so my questions may be 
> quite stupid. Anyway:
> 
> How is a persistent database connection handled then? e.g. in the mysql 
> module?
> 
> looking at the mysql module source code, it seems that there is a list 
> called persistent_list, used in such a manner:
> 
> zend_hash_find(&EG(persistent_list), hashed_details, 
> hashed_details_length+1, (void **) &le
> 
> would this provide some persistnece? If yes, how to use it exaclty? (I 
> couldn't make it work myself.)
> 
> 
> It seems to me that libphp_java.so is unloaded every once in a while. 
> For example, global static variable defined in the module get 
> re-initialized every once in a while. Is this so?

Are you sure its getting unloaded or is it starting up in another httpd?

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RE: [PHP-DEV] pecl extensions

[Brad LaFountain]

--- John Coggeshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yeah I know that shady guy Shane.
> 
> Heh. He is shady, isn't he? ;)
> 
> > Well, it's defintly experimental. There are bindings for 
> >opengl and glut. You can run some sample apps that use the 
> >glut api. Its pretty cool. Me and Marcus were working on off 
> >screen redndering with OSMesa. That would allow you to render 
> >a scene without needing to display it somewhere, caputre the 
> >content and spit it out as an image. That worked pretty 
> >decent, it worked on windows but i had issues with it running 
> >under linux. It could reneder a sceen and spit out a png. I 
> >remember Andrei told me that there were issues using the api 
> >with gtk-opengl but im sure they could be addressed.
> 
> My thoughts on it were exactly where you are going with it. However, why
> do you need OSMesa in order to do off-screen renderings? It would seem
> to me you should be able to render directly to a backbuffer and copy the
> bitmap into a GD buffer... Or am I missing something?

 Well from my understanding, that just doesn't work, this backbuffer that you
are talking about IS OSMesa. Again I'm no opengl guru but thats why OSMesa was
created is for this type of rendering. Maybe OSMesa is just used for offscreen
HARDWARE rendering, If you can find some docs/info how to do this maybe I can
look into it. I do have a working sample of osmesa working. if you goto
sf.net/projects/phpopengl there is a link that says phpopeng/osmesa in action,
that link is broken cause i havn't paid for my dynamic ip account recently. if
you wanna see it work ill give you my ip when i get home.

 - Brad
> 
> John
> 
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RE: [PHP-DEV] pecl extensions

[Brad LaFountain]

--- John Coggeshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Brad:
> 
> I'm going to take a real stab in the dark here and say that you know
> Shane Caraveo. I was at PHPCon with him presenting in October and I was
> talking about an idea I had to implement opengl in PHP... He said that
> someone by the name of Brad (at least, that's what I recall) was working
> on a extension and I should get in touch with him... Well, needless to
> say I forgot until just now...

 Yeah I know that shady guy Shane.

> 
> What is the status of this extension? Is it experimental, stable, etc?
> Just curious...

 Well, it's defintly experimental. There are bindings for opengl and glut. You
can run some sample apps that use the glut api. Its pretty cool. Me and Marcus
were working on off screen redndering with OSMesa. That would allow you to
render a scene without needing to display it somewhere, caputre the content and
spit it out as an image. That worked pretty decent, it worked on windows but i
had issues with it running under linux. It could reneder a sceen and spit out a
png. I remember Andrei told me that there were issues using the api with
gtk-opengl but im sure they could be addressed.

 - Brad

> 
> John
> 
> 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Brad LaFountain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:05 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [PHP-DEV] pecl extensions
> >
> >
> >I know I'm going to piss people off by asking this but how do 
> >I create a new pecl package? I think I want going to put 
> >php_opengl in there. See if gets anymore use.
> >
> > - Brad
> >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] pecl extensions

[Brad LaFountain]

--- Alan Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brad LaFountain wrote:
> 
> >I know I'm going to piss people off by asking this but how do I create a new
> >pecl package? I think I want going to put php_opengl in there. See if gets
> >anymore use.
> >
> 
> upload it to pear/PECL/opengl.. (You should have karma for that already)
> 
> you nead a pear account re: the web site for uploading releases.
> http://pear.php.net/?devme=
> and then refresh the page.
> I think you have to apply for an account on the pear page - (If it 
> messes up cause you've already got a CVS account just report it here and 
> somebody will fix it:)
> 
> after that just set up a package.xml file as per the other PECL folders 
> and do
> pear package
> then upload the resulting file-rev.tar.gz
> 

 Thanks i'll try that soon.

> P.S. Hows the SOAP going :)

 Well after formatting my computer I finally have my dev envrionment back up. I
started to get back to it. I havn't put that much time into it. Don't worry I
won't let it die, unless it already is dead :).

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[PHP-DEV] pecl extensions

[Brad LaFountain]

I know I'm going to piss people off by asking this but how do I create a new
pecl package? I think I want going to put php_opengl in there. See if gets
anymore use.

 - Brad

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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP and Java

[Brad LaFountain]

--- Marc Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am looking for any info or documentation on using PHP in a servlet
> environment.  I read what I could find on php.net, and found a couple things
> using google, but not enough to answer my questions.  If someone could tell
> me where to look that would be great.  I am very interested in seing PHP
> more tightly integrated with J2EE as I think that it would add the
> reliabilty and scalability of the J2EE platform to the ease of use of PHP,
> and allow a smooth transition for the existing PHP user base, who need to do
> things with Java.
> 
> These are the type of questions I have right now:
> 
> 1) Is this a pure Java version of PHP?
 No. And why would there be ;)

> 2) What functionality is available? (only core functions?  Some extention
> libraries)
 There are 2 things you can do with ext/java
 1) create instances of java objects thru the php's java class, You should have
access of all the methods available for that object
ex.
$java = new Java("java.util.Hashtable");
$java->put("Key", "Value");
echo $java->toString();

 2) php will run as a servlet engine, meaning you can run php scripts inside
Tomcat. This is done all thru native methods.

> 3) How does it all work? (pass thru mechanism? are pages compiled as
> classes?)

 Pages are not compiled as classes they still exists as php scripts.

> 4) Does this make it eiasier to access Java servlets or EJBs? Does it
> increse performance?

 Well not sure exactly what you mean by accessing java servlets, You can
"access" a java servlet by simply
file("http://someserver.com/servlet/SomeJava.jsp?param=go";); That would make
the servelet execute but I might not know what you mean by access. I guess if
you wanted to you could use the Java() class to create an instance of a servlet
class and invoke its methods directly.

Accessing a EJB from a php script should be fine, (this is purely theory never
tried it or even fully thought it thru). If you take the steps that you would
to create a refrence of an EJB from java and replicate it using ext/java it
should work.
Here is a quick example from OpenEJB HelloWorld example

http://openejb.sourceforge.net/hello-world.html
put("java.naming.factory.initial", "org.openejb.client.JNDIContext");
$p->put("java.naming.provide.url", "127.0.0.1:4201");
$p->put("java.naming.security.principal", "myuser");
$p->put("java.naming.security.credentials", "mypass");


//Now use those properties to create
//a JNDI InitialContext with the server.
$ctx = new Java("javax.naming.InitialContext", $p );

//Lookup the bean using it's deployment id
$obj = $ctx->lookup("/Hello");

//Be good and use RMI remote object narrowing
//as required by the EJB specification.

//** This may not work with ext/java extension ***
$pro = new Java("javax.rmi.PortableRemoteObject");
$helloHome = new Java("HelloHome");
$ejbHome = $pro->narrow( $obj, $helloHome->class);
//** This may not work with ext/java extension ***

//Use the HelloHome to create a HelloObject
$ejbObject = $ejbHome->create();

//The part we've all been wainting for...
$message = $ejbObject->sayHello();

//A drum roll please.
echo $message;
?>

 So except for the static access to "class" from helloHome It should work.
Maybe if I get borred some time i'll try it.

> 5) Who is responsible for development of this extension?

 Sam Ruby was the orig developer. I've played with it. I don't think anyone has
done any new development in awhile.

> 6) When do you expect a non experimental version will be available

 When more intrest becomes of it and someone wants to claim any new
development.


 - Brad


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Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag

[Brad LaFountain]

It would be very bad for php if short tags were disabled.
I 100% agree with andi. There are ways of dealing with xml and php
without pissing off the WHOLE php user world. I don't even use
long tags EVER, nor will I want to start.
 - Brad
--- Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 03:33 PM 10/22/2002 +1000, Terence Kearns wrote:
> >Agreed.
> >
> >If short tags were disabled in v5, then there would be no such need for a 
> >hack like this.
> 
> They won't be disabled.
> They won't be disabled.
> They won't be disabled.
> They won't be disabled.
> They won't be disabled.
> They won't be disabled.
> They won't be disabled.
> They won't be disabled.
> 
> Andi
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] trying to understand zvals

[Brad LaFountain]

PHP_FUNCTION(ref_assign)
{
zval *bar, *foo;

if (zend_parse_parameters(ZEND_NUM_ARGS() TSRMLS_CC, "zz", &bar, &foo) ==
FAILURE) {
return;
}

ZVAL_ADDREF(foo);
*bar = *foo;
bar->is_ref = TRUE;
bar->refcount = 1;
}

this works, but i don't know if its the best way to do it.

 - Brad

--- "Tim Daly, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to do some extension programming, and I'm pretty confused
> by the whole zval thing.  In particular, references are a little
> mysterious.  If I have
> 
> $foo = "zonk";
> $bar =& $foo;
> 
> in PHP, what actually happens?  Specifically, if I wanted a function
> that did such a reference assignment:
> 
> $foo = "zonk";
> $bar = "baz";
> 
> ref_assign($bar, $foo); // $bar =& $foo;
> 
> what has to happen in ref_assign?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] default properties (in c)

[Brad LaFountain]

Ok,

 I don't think default_properties is what you are looking for.
default_properties store the information about defined variables and their
default value. Like this:
class MyClass {
var $test = "mytest";
}
at compile time MyClass class_entry will have "test" => "mytest" in its default
properties. Where as:
$t = new MyClass();
$t->other_test = "my other test";
at runtime "other_test" => "my other test" will be stored in
zend_object.properties. So from your example I beleieve you are just trying to
do the second case. So if this is true then.

void define_a_class() 
{
/* make a class with two properties, one of which is an array */
 zval *obj_inst;
 zval *array;
 
 INIT_CLASS_ENTRY(tmp_class_entry, "class_name", class_name_functions);
 class_name_class_entry = zend_register_internal_class(&tmp_class_entry);
 
 MAKE_STD_ZVAL(obj_inst);
 object_init_ex(obj_inst, tmp_class_entry);
 add_property_null(obj_inst, "prop_name"); // defined in zend_API.h
 
 MAKE_STD_ZVAL(array);
 array_init(array);
 add_next_index_string(array, "foo", 1);
 add_property_zval(obj_inst, "prop_name1", &array); // defined in
zend_API.h
 
 }

- brad
--- Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8 Oct 2002, Tim Daly, Jr. wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Brad LaFountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > What engine are you working with 1 or 2?
> > > -brad
> > 
> > I imagine PHP3 == engine 1, and PHP4 == engine 2?
> 
> PHP 3 is engine 0.5, PHP 4 is engine 1 and PHP 5 will be engine 2 :)
> 
> So you're most likely using engine 1.
> 
> Derick
> > 
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] default properties (in c)

[Brad LaFountain]

What engine are you working with 1 or 2?
-brad
--- "Tim Daly, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody.  I'm working on an extension that creates classes, and I
> want to add class variables to the classes.  It looks like,
> internally, class variables are stored in the
> zend_class_entry.default_properties hash.  Manipulating this hash has
> the effect desired, however I seem to have misunderstood the memory
> management issues somehow; the code below causes leaks and crashes.
> 
> Is there an official way to add class variables to a class from C?  Is
> there anything obviously wrong with the code below?  
> 
> Thanks!!
> -Tim
> 
> static zend_class_entry *class_name_class_entry;
> static zend_class_entry tmp_class_entry;
> 
> int add_default_property_null(zend_class_entry *class_entry, 
>   const char *name)
> {
> zval *property;
> int ret;
> 
> MAKE_STD_ZVAL(property); 
> ZVAL_NULL(property);
> return zend_hash_update(&class_entry->default_properties, name, 
> strlen(name)+1,  (void *)&property, sizeof(zval
> *), NULL);
> }
> 
> 
> 
> int add_default_property_zval(zend_class_entry *class_entry, 
>   const char *name, 
>   zval **value)
> {
> zval *aval;
> 
> MAKE_STD_ZVAL(aval);
> *aval = **value;
> zval_add_ref(&aval);
> zval_copy_ctor(aval);
> return zend_hash_update(&class_entry->default_properties, name, 
> strlen(name)+1, (void *)&aval, sizeof(zval *),
> NULL);
> }
> 
> 
> void define_a_class() 
> {
>/* make a class with two properties, one of which is an array */
> zval *wrapper;
> zval *array;
> 
> INIT_CLASS_ENTRY(tmp_class_entry, "class_name", class_name_functions);
> class_name_class_entry = zend_register_internal_class(&tmp_class_entry);
> 
> add_default_property_null(class_name_class_entry, "prop_name");
> 
> MAKE_STD_ZVAL(array);
> array_init(array);
> add_next_index_string(array, "foo", 1);
> add_default_property_zval(class_name_class_entry, "prop_name1", &array); 
> 
> }
> 
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Calling an external C function under Unix

[Brad LaFountain]

You could write a wrapper extension around your c libary.

 - brad
--- Anna Sotnichenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All!
> 
> I want to transfer a PHP script with minimum changes from IIS under Win2000
> to Unix. My ISAPI PHP script calls some external C-functions through PHP
> W32api extension.
> Is there a way to call external C-function from PHP-script under UNIX?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] destructor in domxml not freeing all memory, any clues?

[Brad LaFountain]

I don't think this is the problem but when using libxml i found i need to call
xmlCleanupParser(); after I parse a file.

 - brad

--- Christian Stocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I just watched my apache and simply doing
> 
> domxml_new_doc("1.0");
> 
> eats memory on the httpd process, which is not released after script end.
> not much, but constantly...
> 
> the destructor code for a DomDocument Object looks the following:
> 
> 
> static void php_free_xml_doc(zend_rsrc_list_entry *rsrc TSRMLS_DC)
> {
>   xmlDoc *doc = (xmlDoc *) rsrc->ptr;
> 
>   if (doc) {
>   node_list_wrapper_dtor(doc->children);
>   node_wrapper_dtor((xmlNodePtr) doc);
>   xmlFreeDoc(doc);
>   }
> }
> 
> 
> there are no children, so node_list_wrapper_dtor does nothing here.
> 
> node_wrapper_dtor is (shortened to the relevant stuff):
> *
> static inline void node_wrapper_dtor(xmlNodePtr node)
> {
>   zval *wrapper;
> 
>   wrapper = dom_object_get_data(node);
> 
>   if (wrapper != NULL ) {
>   zval_ptr_dtor(&wrapper);
>   }
> 
> }
> *
> 
> Anyone any idea, what I have to release additionally to avoid this "memory
> leak"? I'm not (yet) that much of an expert in ZE :)
> 
> TIA
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] array_diff not working with last element different

[Brad LaFountain]

Well I tried to use them like that, So I guess there is 
a little need. I wrote a simple php function to do the same thing.

I would volunteer but I have alot of stuff going on. Maybe
if I get borred sometime soon.

 - brad
--- Stig Venaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 05:04:41PM +0300, Andrey Hristov wrote:
> > so, is there need of array_adiff()?
> 
> Right, it should then work on ordered pairs, right? Only remove
> (key, value) pair from 1st array if it exists in any of the others?
> Same goes for array_intersect... I'm not sure if there is that much
> of a need, but if there is one could either have new associative
> ones, or flags to the existing ones. But first we should see if
> there is a real need, then we need to see if someone will implent it.
> 
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[PHP-DEV] array_diff not working with last element different

[Brad LaFountain]

When using array diff, if the last element and only the last element is
different it won't be returned as a difference.

 1, "blah" => 1);
$a1 = array("b" => 2, "blah" => 2);
var_dump(array_diff($ar, $a1));
?>
array(2) {
  ["b"]=>
  int(1)
  ["blah"]=>
  int(1)
}

 1, "blah" => 1);
$a1 = array("b" => 1, "blah" => 2);
var_dump(array_diff($ar, $a1));
?>
array(0) {
}


I can't look at this right now maybe I can later or tomarrow.


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Interfaces in PHP

[Brad LaFountain]

--- Tim Converse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- Brad LaFountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 2) Interfaces as they exist in java don't really give you
> > much in a stripting
> > language but if you insist on having something like that
> > you can curently do it
> > with the zend1.
> > 
> > class temperature {
> >   function __construct($value) {}
> >   function toCelcius() {}
> >   function toFarenheight() {}
> >  }
> > 
> > just use that class and extend away
> 
> Brad ---
> 
> Not the same thing at all, as I'm sure you know.  You
> usually want interfaces in addition to whatever (single)
> inheritance structure you already have.

 Well the zend1 example I gave was a workaround. But that is why I said if the
deligation gets worked out in zend2 then you could acually do similar stuff.

BTW I do use some stuff like this in some of my classes. I'll create a function
with no implementation and any extending class can override that method and use
its functionality (usally for event like stuff), so I don't have to call
method_exists() before trying to call the method.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Interfaces in PHP

[Brad LaFountain]

--- Alan Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  From my reading of delegation, it's really overloading, worded slightly 
> differently.. - but not that related to interfaces...
> 
> In the example below, which is a php'ized version of a C# demo, the 
> advantages of using interfaces (as far as I know) are primarly useful 
> for COM or CORBA, where it would be possible to generate all the 
> components for a CORBA/COM/.NET, or even java binding by reading the 
> interfaces.
> 
> A .NET binding would effectively define all the available interfaces and 
> classes, with strong typing!, and then when called (from C# or .NET) 
> invoke a C call to call_user_function, to run php exectuter 
> (probably the best way to implement a .NET server in php, - compiling a 
> loosely typed language into .NET bytecodes, from reading about 
> python,perl etcs. experience is not the way to go..)
> 
> Other than being nice for documentation, in pure PHP, I cant really see 
> them being much use...
> 
> Interesting subject anyway..
> 
> Regards
> Alan
> 
> called from C#
> 
> PHP_Celcius c = new PHP_Celcius(12.9);
> system.out(c.toFarenheight().toString());
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Interface temperature {
>  function __construct(float $value);
>  float function toCelcius();
>  float function toFarenheight();
> }

 There really are two different things here..

1) "Type Hints" meaning you can define the types of variables
 This has been discussed before it hasn't been turned down or implemented.

2) Interfaces as they exist in java don't really give you much in a stripting
language but if you insist on having something like that you can curently do it
with the zend1.

class temperature {
  function __construct($value) {}
  function toCelcius() {}
  function toFarenheight() {}
 }

just use that class and extend away



but this does bring up an intresting thing... To really implement interfaces
when/if delegation is implemented would be easy.

1) create a interface keyword : which is easy
2) in that state allow only function (name)(params)(semi) : i believe this is
easy
3) internally compile them as normal functions with no implemntation or see if
an e_notice can be thrown. : pretty sure this is easy as well

Im not saying that we should but it doesn't seem to be very hard at all. I
think it exists as neat vs usefull issues.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] PATCH: debug_backtrace() function for 4.3-dev/ZE1

[Brad LaFountain]

--- Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 19:35 20/08/2002, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> >We should not be talking about carrots here, and Thies is not saying
> >"screw you" to you.  He wants to help PHP users today.
> 
> That almost sounds like a Microsoft tagline :) Come on, you know what he 
> meant.  If Andi didn't implement this efficient approach (which was not 
> obvious, as the years that passed without it can prove), there are at least 
> good chances that Thies wouldn't have the option of 'helping PHP users 
> today' (the thing about algorithms is that you can't really say whether one 
> is simple to come up with or not unless you came up with it).  Andi feels 
> that considering that it's his code, using it disregarding his objection is 
> a slap in the face.  Not a serious one, not something he'll remember 
> forever, but still, a slap in the face.

 I don't see it as a slap in the face it should be considered a compliment that
it was written well enough to be backported.

> >We have a feature that doesn't destabilize anything or slow anything down
> >as far as I can tell, and would be very useful to a whole bunch of users
> >today. If that single point is not more important than anything else, then
> >we are getting completely offtrack here.
> 
> I disagree.  Exactly the same could be said about sessions in the PHP 4 
> days, and a host of other features.  We have to keep the roadmap in mind, 
> and not only think about today, but also about tomorrow.
> 
> (to clarify, I personally gave up on this particular issue and am fed up 
> with it, but as I said, if this thread at least helped to prevent other 
> stuff from being backported and got people to realize that shifting 
> priorities is right around the corner, then maybe it was worth it).
   ( I did get this outta this thread. )


 Well I hope Thies will commit it. Im outta this thread.

 - Brad



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Re: [PHP-DEV] PATCH: debug_backtrace() function for 4.3-dev/ZE1

[Brad LaFountain]

First of all I wanna just say that I'm just stating my opnion. You seem to be
getting angry. Im not trying to say your wrong and I'm right. Please don't take
it like that.

--- Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 17:21 20/08/2002, Brad LaFountain wrote:
> >  Ok this experience you are talking about is converting php3 => php4
> correct?
> 
> Both PHP/FI 2 => PHP 3 and PHP 3 => PHP 4
> 
> >Well how many people are were using php3 at that time? Siginifntly less? The
> >conversion from php3 to php4 offered a more stable faster scripting language
> >all around with more extensions more webserver support builtin session
> support
> >etc etc. The conversion from 3 to 4 was a really obvious one.
> 
> No Brad, it wasn't.  PHP 3 was already in use by over a million web sites 
> when 4 came out.  That's an insanely large number.  Please, you weren't 
> around back then, trust me when I tell you it wasn't easy at all to make 
> this conversion happen.  Just convincing the developer community to put the 
> focus on the 4 CVS took months.  The fact that we sent out a clear message 
> that new features (and this IS a new feature) were going to be included in 
> 4, and 4 only, later helped to get the developer community to upgrade.
> 
> >  Ok now php is
> >installed on how many million servers?
> 
> Comparing apples and apples, we're talking about approximately 6 million I 
> think.  Significantly larger, but same order of magnitude.
> 
> >  It doesn't matter how many features you
> >offer php4 isn't going to go away.
> 
> The same could be said about PHP 3.  Do you have any idea what a large 
> number *1 million domains* is?  Hell, how about Windows 95, or NT4, which 
> were all over the place.  Who uses them anymore?

 I know pepole who use 95 and NT, hell we still have alot of them in my office
and you know MS is still supporting them.

> 
> >  Its like saying that apache 1.3 is going to
> >go away.
> 
> No, it's not.  Let's compare apples and apples.  If Apache 1.4 came out, 
> then there are good chances that Apache 1.3 would have died, in the same 
> way 1.2 is effectively dead, even though it was on millions and millions of 
> servers.  2.0 is a rewrite with SERIOUS changes and issues, and it's highly 
> debatable whether the gain from it is worth the price.  See my previous 
> post regarding this comparison...

 Well zend2 also has some serious changes and it introduces some bc issues.
Maybe not major ones but it does introduce some.

> 
> >Besides whos to say that
> >adding debug_backtrace now to 4.3 won't steer more people to php instead of
> >other envrionments.
> 
> I'm willing to be the first person to say this if no one beats me to 
> it...  Such a featurelet steering people to choose one technology/platform 
> over the other?

 In one case ive heard someone didn't choose php becuase it doesn't support MI.
Now ive heard this from a "not very smart programmer" but that was the
decision. I know that thats absoulty obsurde but something like php doesn't
support backtraces may or maynot lean someone twards php. I konw this isn't the
majority but maybe a handfull.

> >  We still need a carrot for people to convert to php
> >ingeneral not just convering our current userbase to zend2. I really see
> what
> >you and andi are saying here but I feel (I could be wrong) that the
> >debug_backtrace won't keep zend1 around any longer than it will already be.
> Me
> >personally I won't upgrade my servers running zend1. I'll probally only 
> >install
> >zend2 on a differenet installation or on new servers. Holding back stuff
> like
> >this is extremly frustrating to me and many others.
> 
> You won't upgrade even in a year's time, or even 1.5 year's time, when all 
> new features, and at some point, security fixes, are available for 
> it?  That is my point, Brad, exactly.  We barely have enough manpower to 
> maintain one version, you seriously think we can maintain two?  Every 
> carrot to encourage migration, even if it's a minicarrot, should be used.
> By the way, if you really don't intend to upgrade to take advantage of new 
> features and fixes, I'm willing to bet that these boxes are static boxes 
> with legacy apps that won't include active development.  As the feature in 
> question is debugging/development related, I can't see how it will be 
> useful in that setup.

 They would be semi-static boxes im sure there will be features and fixes that
would be done on them and debug_backtrace would help in that effort.


 Obvisouly we all have our own opnio

Re: [PHP-DEV] PATCH: debug_backtrace() function for 4.3-dev/ZE1

[Brad LaFountain]

--- Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 07:55 20/08/2002, Brad LaFountain wrote:
> >  You as a Zend owner who's business could be very propitable for Zend2 
> > success
> >or you as a php developer
> 
> Brad,
> 
> This is CLEARLY as PHP developers.  We happen to have quite a bit of 
> experience in getting the userbase to convert from one version to another - 
> with PHP 3 and PHP 4.  Most of the developers today were not involved with 
> PHP around the time this happened (not all, of course).  I said numerous 
> times - having two major versions out there is a support nightmare we 
> managed to avoid by succeeding to move the userbase from one version to 
> another in a relatively short timeframe.  

 Ok this experience you are talking about is converting php3 => php4 correct?
Well how many people are were using php3 at that time? Siginifntly less? The
conversion from php3 to php4 offered a more stable faster scripting language
all around with more extensions more webserver support builtin session support
etc etc. The conversion from 3 to 4 was a really obvious one. Ok now php is
installed on how many million servers? It doesn't matter how many features you
offer php4 isn't going to go away. Its like saying that apache 1.3 is going to
go away. So we are stuck with the 2 major versions with or without
debug_backtrace. Now keeping debug_backtrace outta zend1 may cohearse a few
people to move to zend2 but how many more people could benifit from it in
zend1. The ammount of time arugment till zend2 is released should have some
berring if debug_backtrace being included in zend1. Besides whos to say that
adding debug_backtrace now to 4.3 won't steer more people to php instead of
other envrionments. We still need a carrot for people to convert to php
ingeneral not just convering our current userbase to zend2. I really see what
you and andi are saying here but I feel (I could be wrong) that the
debug_backtrace won't keep zend1 around any longer than it will already be. Me
personally I won't upgrade my servers running zend1. I'll probally only install
zend2 on a differenet installation or on new servers. Holding back stuff like
this is extremly frustrating to me and many others.

 - Brad


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Re: [PHP-DEV] objects as string and arrays as string

[Brad LaFountain]

I went back and read the lists about why people don't like __to_string() or
__string_value() method.

the arguments were the differences in when
convert_to_string vs zend_make_printable_zval were called differently.

I believe andi isn't against it but wants it implemented good and zeev was all
for it.

I think it should be implemented, Like I said before its not that creating your
own "stringify" and calling it is being lazy. Sometimes when debugging you
don't necesarrly know what "Object" you are printing out.. say because of
nested objects.

The issues that were brought up were it would't be consisitant becuase of echo
$obj; or $p = (string)$obj; I think that everytime it should be used in the
context of a string the method should be called. Not when you use var_dump.
var_dump means you want to dump the contents of the variable (object in this
case). You don't want to convert it to a string.

$p = (string)$obj; // will call method
$p .= $obj; // will call method
var_dump($obj); // wont call method
$p = $obj . "\n"; // will call method
$p = "$obj\n"; // will call method

The other consern was recursive nature that could be introduced. As mentioned
in the other posts you could either require to return a string or try and
handle the recursion (maybe like var_dump currently does it).

 -brad


--- Brad LaFountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to throw together a quick hack so that objects can implement a
> __as_string() method that will get called when the string is used in a string
> contex. Instead of append "Object".
> 
> $s = (string)$object;
>  or
> $s .= $object;
> 
> also the same things with arrays that will do something similar to
> $s = implode(" ", $array);
> 
> $s = (string)$array;
> $s = $array . "\n";
> 
> Before anyone jumps on this and says no way cause it easy to implemnt your
> own
> __to_string() and call it when you want it or what is wrong with implode(" ",
> $array). Think of exactly how usefull is appending the word "Array" or
> "Object".
> 
>  Thoughts?
> 
>  - brad
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Re: [PHP-DEV] ZE2 and PHP

[Brad LaFountain]

--- Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 14:21 16/08/2002, Dan Hardiker wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >As php user's requests are getting closer and closer to what ZE2 is
> >offering (eg: back tracing, private/protected classes, extra inheritance
> >functionality, etc) ...
> >
> >1. When is ZE2 expected to be released (if its not already)
> 
> My guess is early 2002.  A zillion things may affect that release date, 
> though, so it really is just a guess.

 Don't you mean 2003?

 - brad


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[PHP-DEV] objects as string and arrays as string

[Brad LaFountain]

I want to throw together a quick hack so that objects can implement a
__as_string() method that will get called when the string is used in a string
contex. Instead of append "Object".

$s = (string)$object;
 or
$s .= $object;

also the same things with arrays that will do something similar to
$s = implode(" ", $array);

$s = (string)$array;
$s = $array . "\n";

Before anyone jumps on this and says no way cause it easy to implemnt your own
__to_string() and call it when you want it or what is wrong with implode(" ",
$array). Think of exactly how usefull is appending the word "Array" or
"Object".

 Thoughts?

 - brad

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Data Hiding Implementation in PHP Classes

[Brad LaFountain]

That .txt only talks about private members. Zend2 also implements protected
data members.

 - brad
--- Sander Roobol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Zend Engine 2 implements this. See http://www.php.net/ZEND_CHANGES.txt
> 
> Sander
> 
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 03:13:57AM -0500, Ben Dischinger wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > My question is if there is anyone working on an implementation of data
> hiding in php? IE Public, private, and protected data types within php
> classes.  I can not find anywhere mentioning this besides very few websites
> that say it is on the "TODO" list.
> > 
> > The research that I'm doing involves dynamically programming php from the
> internet collectively with many users, of which some would have restricted
> access rights to specific objects.  All objects would have certain data that
> I would need to be of type private, ie owner id, permission mode, etc...  in
> order for the object security model to be safe.  Without data hiding any user
> using this system could simply type $Current_User->UID=0  which would then
> change the owner of this object, which happens to be a user to 0, or god. 
> There may be a different way to implement this that I'm not seeing, but any
> model that I come up with in php I can circumvent by some simular means.
> > 
> > I may need to implement a servlet in java that keeps track of currently
> logged in users and objects in memory, but this would be more overhead than
> wanted.  If data hiding was implemented in PHP I would be very excited.  If
> there is not already someone working on it, perhaps I will roll up my sleeves
> and get my elbows dirty.
> > 
> > Thank you so much for reading.
> > 
> > Ben Dischinger
> > NDSU Computer Science
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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP extension initialisation

[Brad LaFountain]

--- Tom Oram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> Can someone please answer my question?
> 
> When running a PHP extension when PHP is running as an apache module on linux
> it's module init function (PHP_MINIT_FUNCTION) gets called twice, once before
> apache forks then once after, is there any way of finding out which
> init you are in. I can't keep a global variable because it get losted in
> between init calls, and environment vars/file locks/shared mem/semephores are
> not options.

 Are you on Windows IIS? I believe someone recently just asked about that same
thing. There was a valid explination for it.

> 
> One other quicky, is there a way to find out inside the extension if it is
> being run from with an apache module or its it a standalone executable (or
> running under a different webserver as my module can only ever run with
> apache)?

I believe you could
#include "SAPI.h"

if(!strcmp(sapi_module.name, "cgi") || strcmp(sapi_module.name, "cli")) {
  printf("compiled as a command line executable");
}
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> Tom
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Method memory handling from an instanced object

[Brad LaFountain]

--- Dan Hardiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> If I was to code something like:
> 
>  
>   class Example {
> var $abc = false;
> function Demo($param) {
>   // etc //
>   return $param;
> }
>   }
> 
>   $ex1 = new Example;
>   $ex2 = new Example;
> 
> ?>
> 
> There are now 2 variables, both with a copy of the object Example in them.
> Now, I would expect the variables in the objects to be duplicated (eg: the
> memory space for $ex1->abc to be separate from $ex2->abc). However, is the
> method definition the same?

 Yes the method is only compiled once. Altho when you extend an object the
opcodes will get copied. (opcodes being compiled php code)

> Is the method definition and contents duplicated each instancing? (eg: if
> I have 100,000 instances of an object with a "print()" method - would that
> method be copied to each object - or would the reference the same memory
> space).

 Again only compiled once.

> If the method is shared, then would a static variable in a method be
> shared across the entire class - or would it still reference to that
> object instance's variable memory space?

 Static varibles by definition (in all languages) are across all instances of
an object.

> If the method is not shared, could this cause an issue with a class that
> has a lot of methods being instanced lots of time and taking up lots of
> memory?

 Not an issue.



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Re: [PHP-DEV] phpthreads - hints anyone...

[Brad LaFountain]

This isn't always ideal. I would rather see the threads as a function not a
separate file. Forcing threads to a file would be pretty limited.

 -brad
--- Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I still think that if you're going to implement such a thread extension it 
> shouldn't try and copy it's parents data-structures. It'd be very slow and 
> prone to errors.
> I think giving a filename as the starting point of the thread would be the 
> best solution. It'd mean that the thread is pretty much a completely new 
> request. It would also mean much leaner threads as you could create .php 
> files with only the logic the thread requires.
> 
> Andi
> 
> At 02:30 PM 8/3/2002 -0700, Shane Caraveo wrote:
> >I've cleaned things up a bit, removed code from tsrm and added it to a new 
> >file, and commited to pecl.  This way those interested can start playing 
> >with and developing the module.
> >
> >Shane
> >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Odd array problems

[Brad LaFountain]

Should be fixed. I swear there better not be anything else wrong with that
code chage :) I know alot more how the engine handles arrays now :)
 - brad
--- Dan Kalowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Correction an update from a few mins ago results in the same output as
> Chuck's original.
> 
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote:
> 
> > With latest CVS (HEAD branch, checked out 10 or so minutes ago), the
> > following script:
> >
> >  >
> > error_reporting(E_ALL);
> > $text = "Before delim.\n--\nAfter delim";
> >
> > $parts = preg_split('|(\n--\s*()?\n)|', $text, 2,
> PREG_SPLIT_DELIM_CAPTURE);
> > $text = array_shift($parts);
> > if (count($parts)) {
> > echo ''; var_dump($parts);
> > $text .= $parts[0];
> > $text .= $parts[2];
> > }
> >
> > ?>
> >
> > Gives me this output:
> >
> > array(3) {
> >   [0]=>
> >   string(10) "
> > --
> > "
> >   [1]=>
> >   string(6) ""
> >   [2]=>
> >   string(11) "After delim"
> > }
> >
> > Notice:  Undefined offset:  0 in /var/www/array.php on line 10
> >
> > Notice:  Undefined offset:  2 in /var/www/array.php on line 11
> >
> > 
> >
> > But the var_dump() clearly shows that there _are_ elements 0 and 2 in
> > the array. What am I missing, or is something still off with the array
> > code?
> >
> > -chuck
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] HANDLE_BLOCK_INTERRUPTIONS

[Brad LaFountain]

Thanks.. I figured it out after looking at all the places where it was being
used. The biggest use was when you are changing link'd lists or arrays. So i
assumed it did something to that affect.

 - brad
--- "Thies C. Arntzen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 10:10:10AM -0700, Brad LaFountain wrote:
> > HANDLE_BLOCK_INTERRUPTIONS();
> > HANDLE_UNBLOCK_INTERRUPTIONS();
> > 
> > what exactly does these do?
> 
> this is an apache thingie. you can tell apache that you
> don't want to be "killed" during certain operations. i doubt
> very mucht that it really helps;-) look in the apache sapi
> module.
> 
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[PHP-DEV] HANDLE_BLOCK_INTERRUPTIONS

[Brad LaFountain]

HANDLE_BLOCK_INTERRUPTIONS();
HANDLE_UNBLOCK_INTERRUPTIONS();

what exactly does these do?

 - brad

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Re: [PHP-DEV] array commits broke something

[Brad LaFountain]

Sorry.. i miss read your comment... you are correct

I just fixed it commiting in a few min.

 - brad
--- Brad LaFountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That was my fault. I did apply a patch that will fix that late
> last nite.
> 
> Just get the current CVS and it should work.
> 
> PS. array_pop/array_shift is tuns faster now :)
> 
>  - brad
> --- Jani Taskinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Have you updated to the very latest? I'm unable to reproduce this..
> > Can you give some simple example script? (maybe I understood you
> wrong..)
> > 
> > --Jani
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Jan Schneider wrote:
> > 
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >the recent changes in the array code broke something. array_pop() doesn't
> > >decrease the key counter.
> > >Let's say your have an array('one', 'two', 'three') and run array_pop() on
> > >it, then push another value so that you now have array('one', 'two',
> 'four')
> > >the key of the last value will be 3, not 2 as it should be.
> > >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] array commits broke something

[Brad LaFountain]

That was my fault. I did apply a patch that will fix that late
last nite.

Just get the current CVS and it should work.

PS. array_pop/array_shift is tuns faster now :)

 - brad
--- Jani Taskinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Have you updated to the very latest? I'm unable to reproduce this..
> Can you give some simple example script? (maybe I understood you wrong..)
> 
> --Jani
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Jan Schneider wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >the recent changes in the array code broke something. array_pop() doesn't
> >decrease the key counter.
> >Let's say your have an array('one', 'two', 'three') and run array_pop() on
> >it, then push another value so that you now have array('one', 'two', 'four')
> >the key of the last value will be 3, not 2 as it should be.
> >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] phpthreads - hints anyone...

[Brad LaFountain]

Shane,

 I was in the Parrot session at OSCON and parrot is going to implement threads
in the exact same way. One interp per thread with sharing memory.

 - brad
--- Shane Caraveo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alan Knowles wrote:
> > Im looking at adding threading to php, (for the cgi/cli stuff)..
> > 
> > The story so far:
> > 
> > I've created an extension which diverts all zend_execute calls into the 
> > extension -> phpthreads_execute.
> > this function is a copy of zend_execute with a few modifications
> > - to copy & restore things like  EG(active_symbol_table);
> > - to malloc lock and unlock the execute loop and release on each opcode.
> 
> Ouch.  While it's an interesting way to deal with the issue, I think 
> this will be way too slow, and maintenance will be hard (keeping up with 
> changes in the real zend_execute, and zend engine in general).  As in a 
> couple other responses, the way this needs to be implemented has been 
> hashed out, largely based on how the same problem is solved in Perl 
> (there is a remarkable amount of simularity between PHP and Perl at some 
> levels).  If you're interested, lets talk.
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Session variables

[Brad LaFountain]

--- Pierre-Alain Joye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:53:59 +0200
> "Diana Castillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi, with ASP I use session variables to keep a variable "alive" between one
> > page and another.  What is the comparable way to do it with php?
> 
> 
> Take a look at http://www.vl-srm.net/
> 

 You are suggesting using srm for session handling? Thats a little mis-guided.
php's built in session handling would do the job.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] phpthreads - hints anyone...

[Brad LaFountain]

This is interesting Shane and I started talking about php threads at OSCON.

But baiscally your soulition won't work. I can't remember the specfic reason. I
think i tried the same thing along time ago. If it were that simple it probally
would have been done already :).

For threading php you will need to have each php thread have a seprate
interperter. So then you would need some way to share variables between php
interperters ($_SHARED[] possibly). The $_SHARED (or equiv) would need
read/write locks around the access to the variable. Shane and a few other
hashed some ideas at the confrence and with stealing some ideas from perl we
came up with a decent soulition. You might want to get ahold of him and see
what he is going to do with it.

 -brad
  
--- Alan Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Im looking at adding threading to php, (for the cgi/cli stuff)..
> 
> The story so far:
> 
> I've created an extension which diverts all zend_execute calls into the 
> extension -> phpthreads_execute.
> this function is a copy of zend_execute with a few modifications
> - to copy & restore things like  EG(active_symbol_table);
> - to malloc lock and unlock the execute loop and release on each opcode.
> 
> I've started testing the phpthreads_create($callback); - it appears to 
> work ok, execept it segfaults on completion.. - trying to reduce 
> refcounts somewhere.
> 
> The fireup code looks something like this..
> 
> void phpthreads_create(void *ptr) {
> zval myretval;
> zval *callback = (zval *) ptr;
>   
> if (!call_user_function( EG(function_table), NULL, callback, 
> &myretval, 0, NULL TSRMLS_CC ))  {
> zend_error(E_ERROR, "Problem Starting thread with 
> callback");
> }
>
> pthread_exit(NULL);
>
>
> }
> /* {{{ proto string phpthreads_thread(string function)
>Return a string to confirm that the module is compiled in */
> PHP_FUNCTION(phpthreads_create)
> {
>  
> zval *callback;
> pthread_t thread;
>
>   if (zend_parse_parameters(ZEND_NUM_ARGS() TSRMLS_CC, "z", 
> &callback) == FAILURE) {
>   return;
>   }
> pthread_create( &thread, NULL, (void *) phpthreads_create, 
> (void*) callback);
> RETURN_TRUE;
> }
> 
> and the backtrace of the simple threaded test looks like this..
> 0x08128f08 in _zval_ptr_dtor (zval_ptr=0x81b5ce8) at 
> /usr/src/php/php4/Zend/zend_execute_API.c:275
> 275 (*zval_ptr)->refcount--;
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0x08128f08 in _zval_ptr_dtor (zval_ptr=0x81b5ce8) at 
> /usr/src/php/php4/Zend/zend_execute_API.c:275
> #1  0x424ceba2 in ?? ()
> #2  0x424c7c92 in ?? ()
> #3  0x08130588 in zend_execute_scripts (type=8, retval=0x0, 
> file_count=3) at /usr/src/php/php4/Zend/zend.c:810
> #4  0x08110abd in php_execute_script (primary_file=0x40006c71) at 
> /usr/src/php/php4/main/main.c:1398
> #5  0x08110138 in php_module_shutdown () at 
> /usr/src/php/php4/main/main.c:1058
> #6  0x2e325f43 in ?? ()
> 
> does anyone want to suggest what might be missing - is it worth putting 
> this into pecl - and does someone what to lend a hand??
> 
> regards
> alan
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bus error on CVS Head

[Brad LaFountain]

I get the same thing on Windows in debug mode.

 -brad
--- Dan Kalowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Building PHP and running a test script with the CGI or CLI on my MacOSX
> machine results in a a Bus Error upon script completion.
> 
> I have made a fresh checkout, built clean (with a cvsclean and buildconf),
> yet the problem continues.  Find a backtrace below, and the error.  Any
> suggestions/ideas are welcome to be heard.
> 
> ./configure --enable-debug --without-mysql
> --with-imap=/Users/dank/Development/imap-2001a
> 
> Script (but it's really any script):
>  if (!is_dir("/tmp/reports")) mkdir("/tmp/reports", 0777);
> 
> if (touch("/tmp/reports/test.txt")) {
> print "file modification time has been updated \n";
> } else {
> print "could not modify time \n";
> }
> 
> $fp = fopen("/tmp/reports/test.txt", "w");
> fwrite($fp, "some stuff\n");
> fclose($fp);
> 
> print "end of script \n";
> ?>
> 
> backtrace:
> 
> Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory.
> 0x0017dba4 in _zval_dtor (zvalue=0x664f78, __zend_filename=0x2015f4
> "/Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_execute_API.c",
> __zend_lineno=277) at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_variables.c:43
> 43  CHECK_ZVAL_STRING_REL(zvalue);
> 
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0x0017dba4 in _zval_dtor (zvalue=0x664f78, __zend_filename=0x2015f4
> "/Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_execute_API.c",
> __zend_lineno=277) at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_variables.c:43
> #1  0x001704dc in _zval_ptr_dtor (zval_ptr=0x667d84,
> __zend_filename=0x2019f0
> "/Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_variables.c",
> __zend_lineno=158) at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_execute_API.c:277
> #2  0x0017e0bc in _zval_ptr_dtor_wrapper (zval_ptr=0x667d84) at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_variables.c:158
> #3  0x001881dc in zend_hash_destroy (ht=0x667cc8) at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_hash.c:543
> #4  0x0017dc5c in _zval_dtor (zvalue=0x667c88, __zend_filename=0x2015f4
> "/Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_execute_API.c",
> __zend_lineno=277) at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_variables.c:51
> #5  0x001704dc in _zval_ptr_dtor (zval_ptr=0x667de4,
> __zend_filename=0x2019f0
> "/Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_variables.c",
> __zend_lineno=158) at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_execute_API.c:277
> #6  0x0017e0bc in _zval_ptr_dtor_wrapper (zval_ptr=0x667de4) at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_variables.c:158
> #7  0x001881dc in zend_hash_destroy (ht=0x290004) at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_hash.c:543
> #8  0x0016ffa8 in shutdown_executor () at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend_execute_API.c:173
> #9  0x0017f6d8 in zend_deactivate () at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/Zend/zend.c:596
> #10 0x00139e38 in php_request_shutdown (dummy=0x0) at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/main/main.c:788
> #11 0x0019f8e8 in main (argc=2, argv=0xb9fc) at
> /Users/dank/Development/php4-cvs/sapi/cgi/cgi_main.c:1100
> #12 0x244c in _start ()
> #13 0x227c in start ()
> (gdb)
> 
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] array_pop and array_shift (#16063, #16068)

[Brad LaFountain]

Sorry that was it... i swear i checked it out as rodif_bl..

 -brad
--- Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And are you sure you have that tree checked out using the rodif_bl
> account?  Because you are in the ACL file.  See CVS/Root in your checked
> out tree.
> 
> -Rasmus
> 
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Brad LaFountain wrote:
> 
> > $ cvs commit ext/standard/array.c
> > cvs [server aborted]: "commit" requires write access to the repository
> > cvs commit: saving log message in /tmp/cvs61090800.1
> >
> >  - brad
> > --- Brad LaFountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hmm... I tried it and it said i didn't have karma. I'll try again tonite.
> > >
> > >  - brad
> > > --- Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > You have full karma to fix this.  What makes you think you don't?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Brad LaFountain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Along with fixing this bugs (16063 and 16068) I signifintly increased
> the
> > > > > preformance of array_pop and array_shift.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here are some times on a 1.2ghz athlon.
> > > > >  > > > > $t = array_fill(0, $size, "test");
> > > > > for($i = 0;$i < $size;$i++)
> > > > >   array_pop($t);
> > > > > ?>
> > > > >
> > > > > Before:
> > > > > $size = 2000; //1.633s
> > > > > $size = 4000; //8.942s
> > > > > $size = 6000; //24.005s
> > > > > $size = 1; //1m13.986s
> > > > >
> > > > > After:
> > > > > $size = 2000; //0.050s
> > > > > $size = 4000; //0.060s
> > > > > $size = 6000; //0.081s
> > > > > $size = 1; //0.090s
> > > > >
> > > > >  I still would like to see the functions array_unshift, array_splice
> and
> > > > > array_pad looked into to increase preformance too.
> > > > >
> > > > >  I thought i had karma but it seems i don't. So can someone ither
> give me
> > > > the
> > > > > karma or patch it themselves.
> > > > >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] array_pop and array_shift (#16063, #16068)

[Brad LaFountain]

$ cvs commit ext/standard/array.c
cvs [server aborted]: "commit" requires write access to the repository
cvs commit: saving log message in /tmp/cvs61090800.1

 - brad
--- Brad LaFountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm... I tried it and it said i didn't have karma. I'll try again tonite.
> 
>  - brad
> --- Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You have full karma to fix this.  What makes you think you don't?
> > 
> > On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Brad LaFountain wrote:
> > 
> > > Along with fixing this bugs (16063 and 16068) I signifintly increased the
> > > preformance of array_pop and array_shift.
> > >
> > > Here are some times on a 1.2ghz athlon.
> > >  > > $t = array_fill(0, $size, "test");
> > > for($i = 0;$i < $size;$i++)
> > >   array_pop($t);
> > > ?>
> > >
> > > Before:
> > > $size = 2000; //1.633s
> > > $size = 4000; //8.942s
> > > $size = 6000; //24.005s
> > > $size = 1; //1m13.986s
> > >
> > > After:
> > > $size = 2000; //0.050s
> > > $size = 4000; //0.060s
> > > $size = 6000; //0.081s
> > > $size = 1; //0.090s
> > >
> > >  I still would like to see the functions array_unshift, array_splice and
> > > array_pad looked into to increase preformance too.
> > >
> > >  I thought i had karma but it seems i don't. So can someone ither give me
> > the
> > > karma or patch it themselves.
> > >
> > >  -brad
> > >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] php_strip_tags and bug 7472

[Brad LaFountain]

Ok that makes a little more sence. 
But instead of re-inventing the parser how about we do something with
the builtin parser. I'll try to hack up something.
 - brad
--- Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, I wrote that code.
> 
> I'm a little fuzzy on the original thinking, but think about something
> like this:
> 
>   abc  "; duh()?> def 
> 
> This should, and does, strip down to:
> 
>   abc   def
> 
> If you got rid of the quote parsing, how do you know not to end the php
> tag at the ?> inside the quotes?
> 
> Of course, I don't see any single-quote handling in there, so it isn't
> completely implemented.
> 
> The bracket counting, along with the quote counting is only done in the
> PHP state, and yes, I agree, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense the way
> that is written.  Basically, right now if you have a malformed PHP tag in
> a string that doesn't close a function call:
> 
>abc   def
> 
> Will strip down to just
> 
>abc
> 
> I am sure that seemed logical at some point.
> 
> -Rasmus
> 
> 
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Brad LaFountain wrote:
> 
> > Is any developer familiar with php_strip_tags? I was looking into but 7472
> and
> > php_strip_tags seems like its keeping track of "'s and changing the state
> > according to "'s. From what I can tell the state machine shouldn't need to
> > worry about "'s, but I might be missing something obvious tho. Commenting
> out
> > the case '"' fixes the bugs reported by 7427. I don't want to commit it if
> it
> > will break anything else.
> >
> > Additionally it also keeps track of ('s and )'s. Is this needed as well?
> >
> > http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=7472
> >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] array_pop and array_shift (#16063, #16068)

[Brad LaFountain]

Hmm... I tried it and it said i didn't have karma. I'll try again tonite.

 - brad
--- Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have full karma to fix this.  What makes you think you don't?
> 
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Brad LaFountain wrote:
> 
> > Along with fixing this bugs (16063 and 16068) I signifintly increased the
> > preformance of array_pop and array_shift.
> >
> > Here are some times on a 1.2ghz athlon.
> >  > $t = array_fill(0, $size, "test");
> > for($i = 0;$i < $size;$i++)
> > array_pop($t);
> > ?>
> >
> > Before:
> > $size = 2000; //1.633s
> > $size = 4000; //8.942s
> > $size = 6000; //24.005s
> > $size = 1; //1m13.986s
> >
> > After:
> > $size = 2000; //0.050s
> > $size = 4000; //0.060s
> > $size = 6000; //0.081s
> > $size = 1; //0.090s
> >
> >  I still would like to see the functions array_unshift, array_splice and
> > array_pad looked into to increase preformance too.
> >
> >  I thought i had karma but it seems i don't. So can someone ither give me
> the
> > karma or patch it themselves.
> >
> >  -brad
> >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] array_pop and array_shift (#16063, #16068)

[Brad LaFountain]

Wrong patch file.. re-attaching.

--- Brad LaFountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Along with fixing this bugs (16063 and 16068) I signifintly increased the
> preformance of array_pop and array_shift.
> 
> Here are some times on a 1.2ghz athlon.
>  $t = array_fill(0, $size, "test");
> for($i = 0;$i < $size;$i++)
>   array_pop($t);
> ?>
> 
> Before:
> $size = 2000; //1.633s
> $size = 4000; //8.942s
> $size = 6000; //24.005s
> $size = 1; //1m13.986s
> 
> After:
> $size = 2000; //0.050s
> $size = 4000; //0.060s
> $size = 6000; //0.081s
> $size = 1; //0.090s
> 
>  I still would like to see the functions array_unshift, array_splice and
> array_pad looked into to increase preformance too.
> 
>  I thought i had karma but it seems i don't. So can someone ither give me the
> karma or patch it themselves.
> 
>  -brad
> 
> 
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> ===
> RCS file: /repository/php4/ext/standard/array.c,v
> retrieving revision 1.172
> diff -u -r1.172 array.c
> --- ext/standard/array.c  8 Jul 2002 07:33:22 -   1.172
> +++ ext/standard/array.c  30 Jul 2002 07:10:45 -
> @@ -1661,8 +1661,9 @@
>  static void _phpi_pop(INTERNAL_FUNCTION_PARAMETERS, int off_the_end)
>  {
>   zval   **stack, /* Input stack */
> -**val;   /* Value to be popped */
> - HashTable   *new_hash;  /* New stack */
> +**val;   /* Value to be popped */
> + char *key = NULL;
> + int key_len;
>   
>   /* Get the arguments and do error-checking */
>   if (ZEND_NUM_ARGS() != 1 || zend_get_parameters_ex(1, &stack) == FAILURE) {
> @@ -1689,10 +1690,8 @@
>   INIT_PZVAL(return_value);
>   
>   /* Delete the first or last value */
> - new_hash = php_splice(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack), (off_the_end) ? -1 : 0, 1, NULL,
> 0, NULL);
> - zend_hash_destroy(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack));
> - efree(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack));
> - Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack) = new_hash;
> + zend_hash_get_current_key_ex(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack), &key, &key_len, &key_len,
> 0, NULL);
> + zend_hash_del_key_or_index(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack), key, key_len, key_len, (key)
> ? HASH_DEL_KEY : HASH_DEL_INDEX);
>  }
>  /* }}} */
>  
> @@ -1747,7 +1746,8 @@
>   }
>  
>   /* Use splice to insert the elements at the beginning.  Destroy old
> -hashtable and replace it with new one */
> +hashtable and replace it with new one */
> + zend_hash_insert
>   new_hash = php_splice(Z_ARRVAL_P(stack), 0, 0, &args[1], argc-1, NULL);
>   zend_hash_destroy(Z_ARRVAL_P(stack));
>   efree(Z_ARRVAL_P(stack));
> 
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===
RCS file: /repository/php4/ext/standard/array.c,v
retrieving revision 1.172
diff -u -r1.172 array.c
--- ext/standard/array.c8 Jul 2002 07:33:22 -   1.172
+++ ext/standard/array.c30 Jul 2002 07:13:34 -
@@ -1661,8 +1661,9 @@
 static void _phpi_pop(INTERNAL_FUNCTION_PARAMETERS, int off_the_end)
 {
zval   **stack, /* Input stack */
-  **val;   /* Value to be popped */
-   HashTable   *new_hash;  /* New stack */
+  **val;   /* Value to be popped */
+   char *key = NULL;
+   int key_len;

/* Get the arguments and do error-checking */
if (ZEND_NUM_ARGS() != 1 || zend_get_parameters_ex(1, &stack) == FAILURE) {
@@ -1689,10 +1690,8 @@
INIT_PZVAL(return_value);

/* Delete the first or last value */
-   new_hash = php_splice(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack), (off_the_end) ? -1 : 0, 1, NULL, 0, 
NULL);
-   zend_hash_destroy(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack));
-   efree(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack));
-   Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack) = new_hash;
+   zend_hash_get_current_key_ex(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack), &key, &key_len, &key_len, 0, 
+NULL);
+   zend_hash_del_key_or_index(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack), key, key_len, key_len, (key) ? 
+HASH_DEL_KEY : HASH_DEL_INDEX);
 }
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[PHP-DEV] [PATCH] array_pop and array_shift (#16063, #16068)

[Brad LaFountain]

Along with fixing this bugs (16063 and 16068) I signifintly increased the
preformance of array_pop and array_shift.

Here are some times on a 1.2ghz athlon.


Before:
$size = 2000; //1.633s
$size = 4000; //8.942s
$size = 6000; //24.005s
$size = 1; //1m13.986s

After:
$size = 2000; //0.050s
$size = 4000; //0.060s
$size = 6000; //0.081s
$size = 1; //0.090s

 I still would like to see the functions array_unshift, array_splice and
array_pad looked into to increase preformance too.

 I thought i had karma but it seems i don't. So can someone ither give me the
karma or patch it themselves.

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RCS file: /repository/php4/ext/standard/array.c,v
retrieving revision 1.172
diff -u -r1.172 array.c
--- ext/standard/array.c8 Jul 2002 07:33:22 -   1.172
+++ ext/standard/array.c30 Jul 2002 07:10:45 -
@@ -1661,8 +1661,9 @@
 static void _phpi_pop(INTERNAL_FUNCTION_PARAMETERS, int off_the_end)
 {
zval   **stack, /* Input stack */
-  **val;   /* Value to be popped */
-   HashTable   *new_hash;  /* New stack */
+  **val;   /* Value to be popped */
+   char *key = NULL;
+   int key_len;

/* Get the arguments and do error-checking */
if (ZEND_NUM_ARGS() != 1 || zend_get_parameters_ex(1, &stack) == FAILURE) {
@@ -1689,10 +1690,8 @@
INIT_PZVAL(return_value);

/* Delete the first or last value */
-   new_hash = php_splice(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack), (off_the_end) ? -1 : 0, 1, NULL, 0, 
NULL);
-   zend_hash_destroy(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack));
-   efree(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack));
-   Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack) = new_hash;
+   zend_hash_get_current_key_ex(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack), &key, &key_len, &key_len, 0, 
+NULL);
+   zend_hash_del_key_or_index(Z_ARRVAL_PP(stack), key, key_len, key_len, (key) ? 
+HASH_DEL_KEY : HASH_DEL_INDEX);
 }
 /* }}} */
 
@@ -1747,7 +1746,8 @@
}
 
/* Use splice to insert the elements at the beginning.  Destroy old
-  hashtable and replace it with new one */
+  hashtable and replace it with new one */
+   zend_hash_insert
new_hash = php_splice(Z_ARRVAL_P(stack), 0, 0, &args[1], argc-1, NULL);
zend_hash_destroy(Z_ARRVAL_P(stack));
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[PHP-DEV] php_strip_tags and bug 7472

[Brad LaFountain]

Is any developer familiar with php_strip_tags? I was looking into but 7472 and
php_strip_tags seems like its keeping track of "'s and changing the state
according to "'s. From what I can tell the state machine shouldn't need to
worry about "'s, but I might be missing something obvious tho. Commenting out
the case '"' fixes the bugs reported by 7427. I don't want to commit it if it
will break anything else.

Additionally it also keeps track of ('s and )'s. Is this needed as well?

http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=7472

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Going on vacation

[Brad LaFountain]

Thats not allowed andi! :)

 - Brad

--- Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I'm going on a four day computer-less vacation starting tomorrow morning so 
> I won't be reading my Email.
> If you guys send patches for the Engine 2 or other queries please give me 
> some time to reply when I get back. I'll look them over ASAP.
> 
> Thanks,
> Andi
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] widestring variable possible in php?

[Brad LaFountain]

By "widestring" do you mean a multi byte string?

if yes
 take a look at the mbstring module.
else
 don't know what you mean by widestring

 -brad
--- Derek Aschenbrenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to assign a widestring to a variable in php?  Is it possible
> to create a widestring variable?
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] RE: [PHP-DEV] REPOST: Class Autoloading [PATCH]

[Brad LaFountain]

> - will never work for sub-classes so don't even ask!

Andi,

 This doesn't need to be an issue. The way that I use sub-classes is I ALWAYS
include_once("subclass.php"); at the top of each superclass file. I know
everyone doesn't code the same way but maybe you can have that as a suggestion
to people who use __autoload.

Foo.php
class Foo{}

Bar.php
class Bar{}

MyFoo.php
include_once("Foo.php");
class MyFoo extends Foo{}

MyBar.php
include_once("Bar.php");
class MyBar extends Bar{}


auto_test.php


- brad
> 
> At 11:27 PM 6/11/2002 +0100, Ivan Ristic wrote:
> > > Okay, I guess I can live with it :)
> > >
> > > Andi
> >
> >   Is there anyone else who would like to comment on the
> >   patch?
> >
> >   http://www.webkreator.com/download/class_autoload.patch
> >
> >   Or can we have it committed?
> >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Case Sensitivity is inconsitent inside Objects

[Brad LaFountain]

--- phpsurf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I really don't want to wake up once again the endless thread about CS !
> 
> My point here, is just that I have a problem dealing dynamically with
> attributes and methods inside an object.
> The problem is that the function 'get_class_vars' returns the attributes in
> a case sensitive way, whereas 'get_class_methods' returns all the methods in
> lower case !

 Well since member variables are CS and methods are not then to me these
functions act the way they should. Im pretty sure that there is no way to
change the functionality in ZE1 cause when functions get compiled they get
converted to LC. I think andy is doing something with the ability to get the
case of a function but im not positive if this will fit here.


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Custom Extensions and Super Globals

[Brad LaFountain]

I believe you are looking for

zend_register_auto_global();

 - Brad
--- Brian Moon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was just thinking about some of our code on dealnews.com and thought it
> would be cool if we could write our own extension that would, among other
> things, make a couple of widely used variables on out site super globals
> like $_SERVER, etc.  A) Can this be done.  B) If so, can anybody give me a
> push in the right direction to making it happen?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian Moon
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[PHP-DEV] phpopengl

[Brad LaFountain]

A while ago I made php-opengl. The extension lets you create ither interactive
opengl programs (with the help of glut) or what I was working using OSMesa is
to allow php to create 3d images Off Screen (OS). This can be used for a bunch
of things. (3d graphs, generation of 3d text), (i got it to work on windows but
it was screwing up some colors on linux). It currently is up on sourceforge
http://phpopengl.sourceforge.net/. I don't do any current development on it.
I've been focusing on php-soap. Are there any developers out there interested
in moving it to pecl and creating some documentation? Someone recently asked me
how to install it so this is why im bringing it up now.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Instantiating Objects ?

[brad lafountain]

There is no transpartent way of creating a c++ object from php. What you can do
is create a php extension that will proxy the calls to your c++ object. Once
you do that you can pass anything into your c++ class (querystring).

 take a look at ext/* in the souce distribution.

 - brad


--- Kevin Caporaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible to instantiate an object from one of my c++ shared libraries
> (goo.so) and then call methods on that object?
> 
> How efficient is PHP's way of doing it? (if possible)
> Also, can I pass things like the querystring and form data into that
> instantiated object?
> 
> Thanks for any response!
> $Kevin
> 
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Memory Leaks /w nested classes

[brad lafountain]

--- Andre Christ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Brad,
> 
> "Brad Lafountain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > I use parent members all the time.. w/zend1
> 
> well, that's what I wanted to do until I discovered these entrys in my log
> file when php is compiled --enable-debug. Do you have these mem leaks as
> well ?

 Well acually the code is on a live server... i can't enable-debug.
> 
> Greets,
> André
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Memory Leaks /w nested classes

[brad lafountain]

I use parent members all the time.. w/zend1

 - Brad
--- Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> that's a limitation of the Zend Engine. It does not support
> circular references (at least this is would Zeev told me last
> time :)
> 
> - Markus
> 
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:25:38PM +0200, Andre Christ wrote : 
> > working with php's oop implementation I got some memory leaks. The
> behaviour
> > can be reproduced
> > with the following script:
> > 
> >  > class CBar {
> >   var $Parent;
> > }
> > 
> > class CSuper {
> >   function CSuper() {
> > $this->Bar = new CBar();
> > $this->Bar->Parent = $this;
> >   }
> > }
> > 
> > $Super = new CSuper();
> > ?>
> > 
> > php 4.2.1 --enable-debug
> > 
> > zend_hash.c(260) :  Freeing 0x0821000C (39 bytes),
> > script=/home/ach/usr/htdocs/devel/oop.php
> > Last leak repeated 1 time
> > ./zend_execute.c(470) :  Freeing 0x0820FFAC (44 bytes),
> > script=/home/ach/usr/htdocs/devel/oop.php
> > zend_variables.c(126) : Actual location (location was relayed)
> > ./zend_execute.c(467) :  Freeing 0x0820FF6C (12 bytes),
> > script=/home/ach/usr/htdocs/devel/oop.php
> > zend_API.c(596) :  Freeing 0x0820FE54 (44 bytes),
> > script=/home/ach/usr/htdocs/devel/oop.php
> > zend_API.c(584) : Actual location (location was relayed)
> > zend_hash.c(176) :  Freeing 0x0820FB34 (32 bytes),
> > script=/home/ach/usr/htdocs/devel/oop.php
> > Last leak repeated 1 time
> > ./zend_execute.c(1948) :  Freeing 0x0820F844 (12 bytes),
> > script=/home/ach/usr/htdocs/devel/oop.php
> > 
> > 
> > Is there anything wrong with the code or is it a bug in php / Zend ?
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[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] RE: [PHP-DEV] REPOST: Class Autoloading [PATCH]

[brad lafountain]

I dissagree with that... I would like the option to say where my classes are.
If i want multiple classes in one file then i can.

function myAutoLoader($className) {
 if (!class_exists($className)) {
   include("all_of_my_classes.php");
   }
}

Making a classpath and ClassName.php files will make php horibly look like
java. One of the reasons java does this is cause you can't have 2 public
classes in one file. We shouldn't force php developers to use one class per
file just to use the "auto-loading" feature.

- brad
--- Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd prefer not having a handler for autoloader. I'd prefer having the 
> Engine look for ClassName.php in the default include_path and if it doesn't 
> exist die... (i.e. not call any user-definable PHP function).
> 
> Andi
> 
> At 11:33 AM 6/10/2002 +0200, phpsurf wrote:
> >this patch would be really great !
> >
> >I can remember it has been discussed a lot on the ZE2 mailing list about the
> >'import' feature.
> >some people (and I was) would have apreciated another name because this name
> >was already used in many PHP frameworks to implement a function that loads
> >classes.
> >
> >As far as I followed this thread, the agreement was that the import keyword
> >can be used fine for namespaces if a autoload statement was patched to the
> >engine ... so everyone would be happy ! :)
> >
> >I guess your patch gives some function like this one :
> >set_classautoload_handler("myAutoLoader");
> >
> >and then, one can implement a function like this:
> >myAutoLoader($className) {
> >  if (!class_exists($className)) {
> >   include("class/".str_replace("_", "/", $className).".php");
> >   }
> >}
> >
> >I'm sure many programmers would apreciate such a feature.
> >Especially as it whould have no BC issue at all !
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ivan Ristic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: dimanche 9 juin 2002 22:46
> > > To: Zeev Suraski
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] REPOST: Class Autoloading [PATCH]
> > >
> > >
> > > > I believe this has been discussed in the past and not ack'd,
> > > please read
> > > > the php-dev archives...
> > >
> > >   I tried and I tried but I couldn't find a discussion on anything
> > >   similar on the mailing list.
> > >
> > >   The code I sent is *already* in use, and has been in
> > >   use for some time now. Take a look at this message from
> > >   November 2001:
> > >
> > >   http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-dev&m=100687224711738&w=2
> > >
> > >   I didn't introduce anything new, so if it was OK then it should be
> > >   OK now. Also, the code cannot affect the people that are not using
> > >   the feature so I do not think that there will be any kind of impact
> > >   on the existing user base.
> > >
> > >   This feature makes it possible to have one class per file and not
> > >   to worry about inclusion at all. It becomes especially useful when
> > >   used together with products such as Zend Accelerator, where files
> > >   are cached (and you do not have to worry about a large number of
> > >   small files).
> > >
> > > --
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: REJECTED: <5.1.0.14.2.20020607225328.03df2740@127.0.0.1>

[brad lafountain]

I got it too..

 - brad
--- Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any idea why I got this when posting to php-dev?
> 
> Andi
> 
> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (reject)
> >Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:50:05 -0700
> >X-Autogenerated: Reply
> >To: Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: REJECTED: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >X-Autogenerated: UNSOLICITED ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION
> >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Original-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Original-Sender: Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Original-Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Engine expert wanted
> >Original-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 22:53:42 +0300
> >
> >
> >SERVICE of LEGAL NOTICE:
> >
> >Pursuant to California Law (cref. California Business & Professions Code
> >§§ 17538.4, 17538.45 (2001)), the message referenced herein, uniquely
> >identified by the following Internet messaging headers:
> >
> > {
> > Original-Message-ID: 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Original-Sender: Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Original-Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Engine expert
> wanted
> > Original-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 22:53:42 +0300
> > }
> >
> >has been categorized as either Unsolicited Bulk E-mail (UBE), or
> >Unsolicited Commercial E-Mail (UCE).
> >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Engine expert wanted!!!!

[brad lafountain]

 If this is your problem maybe a "offical" soultion to the problem should be
thought. Like in your extension you can define a priority for loading and
unloading your extension in the ini. Kinda like init.d.

 Has there been any discussion about this topic before.

 - brad

--- Brian France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Zend Engine unloading extension in the wrong order! (Re-post due to 
> no response)
> 
> I have been tracking down a core dump with my php extension when it 
> is unloading some of its shared libraries.  I have shared extension 
> that is link against libexpat and will load fine if it is the only on 
> in the php.ini.  If I then load xml.so extension then my extension it 
> works fine, but if it is my extension then xml.so it crashes while 
> xml.so is unloading libexapt.
> 
> What I have found is the Zend Engine is unloading extension in the 
> same order it loaded them.
> 
> load: foo_bar.so
> load: xml.so
> 
> unload: foo_bar.so
> unload: xml.so
> 
> I believe this is wrong and think it should be in reverse order.
> 
> load: foo_bar.so
> load: xml.so
> 
> unload: xml.so
> unload: foo_bar.so
> 
> 
> There are two ways to fix this problem.  One is to push the modules 
> to the head of the hash, but looking at the zend_hash_add function I 
> decided to go with the second.  Second way is to destroy them in 
> reverse order.  I created a zend_hash_reverse_destroy and call that 
> instead of zend_hash_destroy.  There may be a better way to do this, 
> but this is the quick fix for me.
> 
> I have included a patch below, should I submit a bug report as well?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> diff -rc php-4.2.1/Zend/zend.c
> *** php-4.2.1/Zend/zend.c   Tue Feb 26 10:59:25 2002
> --- php-4.2.1/Zend/zend.c   Thu Jun  6 11:32:57 2002
> ***
> *** 487,493 
>  zend_destroy_rsrc_list(&EG(persistent_list) TSRMLS_CC);
>#endif
>  zend_destroy_rsrc_list_dtors();
> !   zend_hash_destroy(&module_registry);
>  zend_hash_destroy(GLOBAL_FUNCTION_TABLE);
>  free(GLOBAL_FUNCTION_TABLE);
>  zend_hash_destroy(GLOBAL_CLASS_TABLE);
> --- 487,493 
>  zend_destroy_rsrc_list(&EG(persistent_list) TSRMLS_CC);
>#endif
>  zend_destroy_rsrc_list_dtors();
> !   zend_hash_reverse_destroy(&module_registry);
>  zend_hash_destroy(GLOBAL_FUNCTION_TABLE);
>  free(GLOBAL_FUNCTION_TABLE);
>  zend_hash_destroy(GLOBAL_CLASS_TABLE);
> diff -rc php-4.2.1/Zend/zend_hash.c
> *** php-4.2.1/Zend/zend_hash.c  Mon Apr 22 23:53:26 2002
> --- php-4.2.1/Zend/zend_hash.c  Thu Jun  6 11:32:57 2002
> ***
> *** 550,555 
> --- 550,579 
>  SET_INCONSISTENT(HT_DESTROYED);
>}
> 
> + ZEND_API void zend_hash_reverse_destroy(HashTable *ht)
> + {
> +   Bucket *p, *q;
> +
> +   IS_CONSISTENT(ht);
> +
> +   SET_INCONSISTENT(HT_IS_DESTROYING);
> +
> +   p = ht->pListTail;
> +   while (p != NULL) {
> +   q = p;
> +   p = p->pLast;
> +   if (ht->pDestructor) {
> +   ht->pDestructor(q->pData);
> +   }
> +   if (!q->pDataPtr && q->pData) {
> +   pefree(q->pData, ht->persistent);
> +   }
> +   pefree(q, ht->persistent);
> +   }
> +   pefree(ht->arBuckets, ht->persistent);
> +
> +   SET_INCONSISTENT(HT_DESTROYED);
> + }
> 
>ZEND_API void zend_hash_clean(HashTable *ht)
>{
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RE: [PHP-DEV] oo != php

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--- "Preston L. Bannister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Ilker Cetinkaya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> [snip]
> > but after getting known of the ze2 features, I personally saw PHP finally
> > growing out of that "PHP, language for kiddies"-image.
> > IMHO PHP is a real good language for its target purpose, but it has
> > potential to be much better.
> 
> PHP is a nicely done scripting language.  Scripting languages tend to
> be easier to get into, easier to make changes with, and do a good job
> of gluing disparate components together.  
> 
> Java is a compiled language.  Good for building complex tightly knit
> applications at the higher end of the performance spectrum.  For tasks
> that could be done with a scripting language, the implementation cost
> is usually higher in Java.
> 
> C++ is a lower level compiled language.  Good for getting every last
> bit of performance possible out of the hardware.  Also good for complex
> tightly knit applications - but at an even higher development cost.
> 
> Think of each as a different tool in your toolbox.  You choose the
> tool to fit the job at hand.  A screwdriver is not a "kiddie" hammer.
> Each is well suited for different kinds of tasks.
> 
> To extend the metaphor - think of an all-in-one tool - a combination
> of hammer and screwdriver, say.  In trying to combine the two tools
> meant for different purposes you end up with something that is neither
> a particularly good hammer, or a particularly good screwdriver.
> 
> So the focus on improving PHP in the role as a scripting language 
> (not trying to make PHP into Java or C++) makes a great deal of sense.

 OO IS OO... JUST BECAUSE JAVA IS OO DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE SUGGESTING MAKING JAVA
AGAIN. WE ARE SUGGESTING MORE OO FEATURES. Please Pleas Please realize the
difference. Im sick of people associating oo features as java features!

Making php more like java would be suggesting making a public static void
main(String args[]) in a class, and that gets run when a class with that name
is loaded. Now this is stuff specfic to java! Not MI or public/private members
these features have been around way before java was ever thought of!!!

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in the future

[brad lafountain]

--- Dan Hardiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Am Donnerstag, 6. Juni 2002 19:59 schrieb Dan Hardiker:
> >> I sit in many PHP channels (IRC), and observe many class-based
> >> PHP networks (php-classes.org is one I monitor closely) and
> >> can say definatly that the majority of PHP users want *more*
> >> OO capabilities in PHP.
> [..]
> > So when users ask for "more OO" in PHP, they usually want Java
> > and Java capabilities for the price of their current PHP site,
> > and a migration path towards this. Since there is no such thing,
> > they end up trying to turn PHP into Java.
> 
> I disagree *very* strongly with this statement. When people ask for more
> OO they want more OO! Its like saying that if people wanted VC++ to be
> more OOed then they would just be wanting Delphi... which is just untrue.
> The masses are asking for more flexability and expanded capabilities - not
> to turn PHP into anything its not already. PHP is a partially OOed
> language currently, extending it into other OO areas
> (public/private/protected methods & variables) is not altering the
> language structure, aim or purpose.
> What the masses are *not* asking for is for PHP to do things the "java
> way". That has never been suggested or hinted at... anyone wanting this
> can go use Java.
> I dont want to use java for my current projects - there is JSP but it
> doesnt fit for the majority of the projects I do (right tool for the right
> job). Giving PHP extra OOP capabilities would extend what I can do with
> PHP and where I can use it. This isnt about cost of using PHP over Java
>  its about the right tool for the right job to complete at the right
> speed.

 Ex-friggin-actly, i couldn't agree with this more.


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in the future

[brad lafountain]

Andi,

 Before you go ahead with this I would like to discuss it some more too. I'm
wondering if we can fully support MI but i don't want to start this
conversation now.

 btw: i like the contains better than aggergates.

 - brad

--- Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A couple of months ago it was agreed on how to get multiple inheritance 
> like behavior in a way which could work with PHP. I just haven't had time 
> to implement it yet.
> The talk was about aggregation of instances of classes with auto-proxy.
> So you'd do something like:
> class foo extends bar contains barbara, foobar {
> 
> }
> 
> $obj = new foo();
> $obj->method(); /* would check foo and if method doesn't exist will 
> auto-proxy to objects barbara and foobar in that order whatever matches 
> first.*/
> You could access the specific object by $obj->classname or $obj->barbara.
> 
> Try and find it in the archives.
> Andi
> 
> At 06:59 PM 6/6/2002 +0100, Dan Hardiker wrote:
> > > I believe the OO level we have in ZE2 is the upper limit
> > > of  what a scripting language should have.  There's no doubt in my mind
> > > that  going beyond that is going to complicate the language beyond what
> > > our  average users want.
> >
> >I would have to disagree to this statement extremly. It would not
> >complicate the language as those not interested would just ignore the new
> >options and go along as normal. (i.e. all methods and variables being
> >public by default)
> >
> >I sit in many PHP channels (IRC), and observe many class-based PHP
> >networks (php-classes.org is one I monitor closely) and can say definatly
> >that the majority of PHP users want *more* OO capabilities in PHP.
> >Interfaces provide a simple framework for expansive web scripts, which
> >currently can only be botched with extends... and multiple inheritance
> >would help my current PHP (web-based) project. If these features are too
> >complex for you to understand - ignore them!
> >
> >In my opinion the demand is certainly there, if a subset of people dont
> >want to use it - we're not asking them to. What the masses are calling for
> >(and they obviously are with the frequency of this kind of post appearing)
> >is the option to decide. Although Im no expert on the PHP source code and
> >the underlying ZE - is it really that complex to please everyone and give
> >a choice? [for those concerned about the proposed stuff having performance
> >impacts - then make it a configure option... --with-more-oop (or
> >whatever)]
> >
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> >First Creative Ltd
> >
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[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in the future

[brad lafountain]

--- Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 08:26 PM 6/6/2002, brad lafountain wrote:
> 
> >--- Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > At 07:01 PM 6/6/2002, brad lafountain wrote:
> > > >Please don't reply to this email saying Use Java... Because php is 
> > different
> > > >than java and always will be even with these new features.
> > >
> > > Brad, I beg you, there's nothing anybody can say on this list that would
> > > lead this to closure.  Nothing.  I believe that adding the things you
> > > mentioned does indeed turn PHP into Java, just a messy Java, Java which
> is
> > > worse at being Java than the real one is, and torn apart when compared
> > > against it.
> >
> >  Why do you think it would be messy.
> 
> See Kristian's letters to php-dev.  I really don't want to get into it at 
> this point, mental exhaustion :)
> 
> >  I do believe that making a "fork" or patches for php is a bad thing. It 
> > would
> >lead into a big mess. But at the same time i believe more strongly that cs 
> >is a
> >good thing, types are a good thing and stronger oo support is a good thing.
> To
> >me these are more important.
> 
> I don't think I can add anything about CS that I haven't already 
> said.  Adding type hints is something that we have talked about in the 
> past, and haven't ruled out - we need to think much more about the 
> implications.  

  This is good to hear. I was totally against types, then i started thinking
that it would acually be eaiser to use. But i wouldn't want to loose the
floating types too.

> I believe the OO level we have in ZE2 is the upper limit of 
> what a scripting language should have.  There's no doubt in my mind that 
> going beyond that is going to complicate the language beyond what our 
> average users want.

 Average user.. maybe this is true.. but if you want to target more advance
developers then you need to go the extra step and do some of the stuff.

> 
> > > There's one thing that is clear to me - there's no way to 'find a
> > > solution', because we don't, at all, agree about the existence of the
> > > problem.  If you believe these features belong in PHP and that it should
> > > import all (or most) of Java's features, we (and many others) have a
> > > fundamental gap in our perception of what PHP should be, and how it can
> > > stay competitive.
> >
> >  This is exactly true. I really feel that php/zend engine could be a alot 
> > more
> >than you must think it can be.
> 
> No, it's not a matter of me settling for little, and you thinking we can do 
> much better.  Not at all.  While I don't think we can become a better Java 
> than Java, this is not the reason I'm so much against going down this 
> path.  If that was it, I would have said 'let's give it a try, what's the 
> worse that can happen?'  But that's not the case.  I believe that by going 
> down that route we're going to ruin PHP where it is already established as 
> one of the most popular web platforms out there, and that's a price I'm not 
> willing to pay.

 But you have one market.. Why not go for another.. You aren't going to loose
the market that you have. I don't think people will stop using php for the web
just because it has more options.

> 
> >For the most part the only argument against these is "do we need it" and "it
> >will make things slower". Maybe somepeople do maybe somepeople don't but if
> >someone "thinks" they need it then probally others do too, how much slower 
> >will
> >some of these changes make the engine? Maybe not much at all. True these
> kinda
> >things will make the languge more complicated and some people don't think
> that
> >php should get complicated but I do, I think that making these kinda changes
> >can only make php better.
> 
> FWIW, I think that performance only plays a second role in such 
> decisions.  It can indeed rule out certain features if they really slow 
> things down without giving a significant benefit, but generally, 
> functionality is more important than performance (good functionality does 
> not necessarily mean more features but a good, usable platform, even if it 
> means less features).
> For me, the key questions are "Does that belong in the language?", i.e., 
> would adding this feature to PHP make it a stronger/more popular/easier to 
> use web platform than it already is, and "Is it worth the price (if 
> any)?". 

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in the future

[brad lafountain]

--- Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 07:01 PM 6/6/2002, brad lafountain wrote:
> >Please don't reply to this email saying Use Java... Because php is different
> >than java and always will be even with these new features.
> 
> Brad, I beg you, there's nothing anybody can say on this list that would 
> lead this to closure.  Nothing.  I believe that adding the things you 
> mentioned does indeed turn PHP into Java, just a messy Java, Java which is 
> worse at being Java than the real one is, and torn apart when compared 
> against it.

 Why do you think it would be messy.

> Many others feel the same way.  You don't think that way, and 
> I respect it, and there are also others who feel the same way too.  If you, 
> or others, want to take PHP into that direction - non-web-centric, more 
> complicated language - it's your right, and you can do it outside the scope 
> of PHP (or fork).  I believe it's a bad thing for PHP (both having these 
> patches in general and forking), but you don't necessarily share this belief.

 I do believe that making a "fork" or patches for php is a bad thing. It would
lead into a big mess. But at the same time i believe more strongly that cs is a
good thing, types are a good thing and stronger oo support is a good thing. To
me these are more important.

> There's one thing that is clear to me - there's no way to 'find a 
> solution', because we don't, at all, agree about the existence of the 
> problem.  If you believe these features belong in PHP and that it should 
> import all (or most) of Java's features, we (and many others) have a 
> fundamental gap in our perception of what PHP should be, and how it can 
> stay competitive.

 This is exactly true. I really feel that php/zend engine could be a alot more
than you must think it can be.

 The thing is the stuff that I/many people have in mind won't harm php as it
is, its just that some people don't want these new features.

Types:


OO Support:

interface thread
{
 function run();
}

class MyClass implements thread
{
 function run()
 {
  yeahRight();
 }

 function setSomething(string $test)
 {
  $this->something = $test;
 }

 opperator +(MyClass $class)
 {
  $this->something = $class->something;
 }

 opperator +(MyOtherClass $class)
 {
  $this->something = $class->otherSomething;
 }
}

class MyOtherClass extends MyClass
{
}

MI:
Someone posted a good mi example i don't recall where it may be

class Person
{
 function hello()
 {
 }
}

class OtherPerson 
{
 function hello()
 {
 }
}

class MulitPersonalites extends Person, otherPerson
{
 var $currPerson;

 function MulitPersonalites()
 {
  parent::Person("Jake");
  parent::OtherPerson("Miles");
 }

 function Person::hello()
 {
  return super() . " from multi";
 }

 function hello()
 {
  if($this->currPerson == "Jake")
$this->Person::hello();
  else
$this->OtherPerson::hello();
 }
}

what ever the syntax "should" be

don't forget about the public private


Multi threading:
 I know this is a huge change but.. again i think it is a good thing.


Case Sensitive:
 I know the reasons for and against this and i agree with both of them. But I
would rather see CS.

For the most part the only argument against these is "do we need it" and "it
will make things slower". Maybe somepeople do maybe somepeople don't but if
someone "thinks" they need it then probally others do too, how much slower will
some of these changes make the engine? Maybe not much at all. True these kinda
things will make the languge more complicated and some people don't think that
php should get complicated but I do, I think that making these kinda changes
can only make php better.

 Again the point of this email isn't to change authors/founders minds its just
my point of view.

- Brad

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[PHP-DEV] PHP in the future

[brad lafountain]

Ok I know this email has been posted again and again. But lets look at this
objectivly.

PHP was designed for the web. It's "perfect" in alot of ways for that market.
Maybe we can shift the focus of php from the web to application development.
Again i know this has been discussed and been shot down for different reasons.
But how about this. "PHP For Applications".. pretty much use the same code
base. But we introduce stuff like typed variables, Case Sensivive, Greater OO
support private methods, interfaces, operator overloading. I know changing
these things for what php is aim'd for now doesn't make much sence but
obviously people like php alot and want to see it be used for far greater
things than just web development. 

Introducing a new "distrubiton" wont have any BC issues cause it's "new". 

Introducing a new "distrubiton" will be confusing for some people.

Please don't reply to this email saying Use Java... Because php is different
than java and always will be even with these new features.

PHP can be a soulition for serious application developers with some changes.
The code base for it is already there.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] New extension

[brad lafountain]

What is RDF?

  - brad
--- Garland foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just finished a php extension for "repat" an RDF parser in C coded by Jason
> Diammond, with this extension we are able
> to parse RDF files (in any syntactical representation) from PHP and process
> the RDF statements as we want. Web based
> RDF management systems written in PHP are possible now using this extension. 
> 
> The extension is based on repat and repat is based on expat so I used the
> expat parser that the xml extension uses.
> 
> The extension defines some constants (RDF_SUBJECT_TYPE_LITERAL,
> RDF_SUBJECT_TYPE_URI, etc) and the
> following functions:
> 
> parser=rdf_parser_create()
> rdf_parser_destroy(parser)
> rdf_set_statement_handler(statement_handler_name)
> rdf_set_element_handler(start_element_handler_name, end_element_handler_name)
> rdf_set_character_data_handler(character_data_handler_name)
> rdf_parse(parser,data,is_final)
> 
> And these functions for convenience:
> rdf_dump_document(document_uri)
> rdf_parse_document(parser,document_uri)
> 
> I think PECL will be suggested as the way to go for this extension so I need
> instructions to know what to do from now,
> maybe someone to contact? Are there templates to write the extension
> documentation? 
> 
> Another thing that I really need is a volunteer to compile the extension
> under windows and produce the proper .dll to be added
> to windows distros of php. I promise it is a smooth extension that won't
> cause problems, and I'd really like to test it under
> windows.
> 
> Regards,
> Garland.
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's vision

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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, brad lafountain wrote:
> 
> >  I'm bother by the fact that you guys keep on saying Php isn't Java so
> don't
> > use lets not use private methods or interfaces. Java is Object Oriented.
> Java
> > didn't invent private methods, private members and all the other goodies
> that
> > go along with OO development. Now good OO design is the best way to get
> good
> > code re-use out of your time developing. Adding stuff that will help you
> design
> > better objects like private methods will only make php stronger and more
> > accecptable as a OO soultion.
> 
> PHP isn't an OO solution, PHP is a just a tool for a problem. If you think 
> that solving webscripting problems with OO 'solutions' is the 'only' way 
> to do it then you should use Java as a tool. And you can use a procedural 
> aproach for webscripting too, or an OO aproach implemented in a procedural 
> language. 

 I wasn't saying that OO is the only way to solve the problem. To me OO
soultion is not only cleaner/eaiser to read but it makes a libary eaiser to
use. I'm not talking about just webscripting. Having better OO support will
allow libary designers to be able to create more re-useable Objects for
scripting or application server or gui components.


It's kinda frustrating to me, I like php alot and php defintly has the
potentional to be used for a wide virity of soultions. Then you guys are going
back and forth saying that OO design has a minimanl affect on the community and
that OO is clutter. Responses like if you want good OO support use Java? What
is that. Why do you say these things. The php/zend engine is pretty damn strong
why are you guys looking at it so narrowly. I honistly would like to see php
become a more popular soulition than Java in every siuation. Enterprise,
websites, or a eye doctor for an internal applicaiton. And i can be.

When people at work ask me "how long would it take do to x". I first think how
long it would take me to do in php. Php is my first tool of choice.

Php isn't java but i think it can be way better than java too.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's vision

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--- Edin Kadribasic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> And doesn't ZE2 address almost all of those OO related things?
> > >
> > >  It does. Personally, I'm missing two things in Zend Engine 2.0:
> > >  interfaces and private methods. Both are not really critical, as they
> > >  don't aim at solving technical problems, but social ones during the
> > >  design process.
> >
> > PHP != Java. :)
> 

 I'm bother by the fact that you guys keep on saying Php isn't Java so don't
use lets not use private methods or interfaces. Java is Object Oriented. Java
didn't invent private methods, private members and all the other goodies that
go along with OO development. Now good OO design is the best way to get good
code re-use out of your time developing. Adding stuff that will help you design
better objects like private methods will only make php stronger and more
accecptable as a OO soultion.


 Now as far as where php is going. I feel php should do everything it can to
get a more crediable name in other soulitions besides webbased. It definly is
tagged as a web scripting language and it should thats what it was built
around. But we know that php is way more than that we devlop it. PHP is a
strong fast scripting language and should we should start trying to get people
to understand this point.


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Re: [PHP-DEV] libxml bundling

[brad lafountain]

First off trimming down means.
removing documentation.
removing install help.
NOT removing any code at all!

Why do you feel that bundling is such a burdon and how does it requires more
testing. If libxml release a new release and it is decited to upgrade then
simply upgrade. I don't understand why you think its such a burdon. It looks
like they are releasing a version once a month. I don't really think a hour of
a developers time a month is much of a burdon. 
Besides the fact that i don't think we need to upgrade everytime libxml
upgrades. If we bundle the newest one right now php and all of it's xmlbased
extensions will work fine. if a new one gets released... so if we (php
group) feels that its worth the upgrade then go we do it. Otherwise if an end
users feels it is in his best intrest to get the newest version the by all
means he can. Im not saying that we need to force a version on them but give
them a hand if they don't have any installed.

But one thing that I didn't think of that andy pointed out is. The ability for
php/zend's core or extensions to use xml. (ie config files for new extensions
that are separate from php.ini) Xml is so widley used everywhere. You want
proof that xml is widly used??? Are you serious? What kinda comapany do you
work for? We pretty much use xml and xml based techonlogies in 90% of our
projects.

And talk about objective points? Your points don't seem more objective than
mine.

 - Brad

--- Dan Kalowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let's please try to keep the points objective.
> 
> > 1) don't include at all
> >  pros:
> >No need to worry about auto install or filesize.
> >  cons:
> >Forces people to install themselves.
> 
> Is this really a valid con?  This is the standard method of adding
> functionality to ANY programming language.  It's not forcing anyone to do
> anything.  If the end user decides that they would like to have XML
> capability, they will take the steps required to install such services.
> As of this moment that includes downloading and installing the libxml
> services.
> 
> > 2) trim down libxml and put in cvs
> >  pros:
> >Build outta the box. Makes php to build without having to download extra
> > libaries for highly used extension like domxml. Since domxml requires a
> newer
> > version of libxml than most people have it requires them to go an install
> it
> > before buiding php.
> 
> Unless you have hard numbers, I'd really appriciate you not stating domxml
> is a highly used extension.  Stating opinion as fact isn't going to help
> here.
> 
> >  cons:
> >People feel that maintaing this would be too much of a hassle.
> >Conserns about file size of the php package.
> 
> Please keep these points to an objective point, and not a rhetoric with
> emotion.
> 
> Con(s):
> -   Requires maintaining code integrity across new versions of libxml
> -   libxml is a moving target
> -   Will require double the effort to provide a 0% increase in output.
> -   Trimmed libxml is not a full libxml, leading to possible end user
> confusion.
> -   Adds a new point requiring multi-platform release testing.
> 
> > 3) figure out some method to auto download config/install
> >   pros:
> > No extra filesize for php source. No matinance for php developers.
> 
> This point would be more valid for the "requires minimal interaction with
> PHP developers" (i.e. hosted site changes location, path, or filename).
> 
> >   cons:
> > Someone needs to build this (semi complex).
> > Reliant on other servers being up/ asseable from clients machines (ie
> have
> > internet connection from the machinge its being installed from)
> 
> Is this last really a con?  It's the same problem across the debian
> apt-get, the BSD ports collection, and even for getting PHP itself.
> Which I believe is the more common way for people building PHP than
> actual tarballs.  Although this is only conjecture with no real proof, so
> take that with a grain of salt.  But these methods also check local
> library versions and will automatically get/update the library if
> necessary on a per flavor basis.
> 
> > 4) Try and automate the sliming down of libxml and incorp it in the make
> dist.
> >   pros:
> > Still have outta the box but it doesn't live in our cvs.
> >   cons:
> > Someone needs to build this (relitivly simple).
> > Still have the filesize issue.
> 
> Please do not dismiss the trying to hit a moving target as simplisitic.
> It's not.  Having worked with moving targets in the past I can assure you,
> it is not a fun task.  It gets exhausting very quickly.
> 
> Con(s):
> -   No way to automatically ensure new functionality validity
> -   Will still require developer intervention (albiet less)
> -   Will require multiple OS testing
> -   Will not be valid if libxml is re-written/re-architectured
> -   No way to tell if automated merges have selected the proper option
> (i.e. bug fix in PHP version and not in official distro).
> 
> But you did forget at 

[PHP-DEV] libxml bundling

[brad lafountain]

Ok,

 I think we are split in two about what to do here. Ill try and list the
different ideas that have been proposed.

1) don't include at all
 pros:
   No need to worry about auto install or filesize.
 cons:
   Forces people to install themselves.

2) trim down libxml and put in cvs
 pros:
   Build outta the box. Makes php to build without having to download extra
libaries for highly used extension like domxml. Since domxml requires a newer
version of libxml than most people have it requires them to go an install it
before buiding php.
 cons:
   People feel that maintaing this would be too much of a hassle.
   Conserns about file size of the php package.
   
3) figure out some method to auto download config/install
  pros:
No extra filesize for php source. No matinance for php developers.
  cons:
Someone needs to build this (semi complex).
Reliant on other servers being up/ asseable from clients machines (ie have
internet connection from the machinge its being installed from)

4) Try and automate the sliming down of libxml and incorp it in the make dist.
  pros:
Still have outta the box but it doesn't live in our cvs.
  cons:
Someone needs to build this (relitivly simple).
Still have the filesize issue.


Do we vote?


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Re: [PHP-DEV] domxml changes

[brad lafountain]

Forgot to attach the diff for people who are interested.


 - brad
--- brad lafountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was talking before about making changes to domxml. The changes involved
> allowing users to create nodes without having a domdocument.
> 
> $node = new DomElement("myNewElement");
> $node->set_content("stuff");
> echo $node->dump_node();
> 
> it also allows you to create a document in the same way
> 
> $node = new DomDocument("foo");
> echo $node->dump_mem();
> 
> Why I decided to do this is because have have an internal (to my extension)
> xml
> doc tree that i want userland code to be able to create a node and pass it
> into
> a function then my extension will attach it to my xml doc tree. The patch
> also
> lets extension developers create domnodes from the c level with
> php_domobject_new();
> 
> here is a small sample
> 
> xmlNodePtr node;
> 
> node = xmlNewNode(null, "mynode");
> return_value = php_domobject_new(node, &found, NULL);
> 
> 
> This would create a new php dom node and return it to userland for further
> processing.
> 
> 
> It also removes some duplicate code in xmldocfile. It also moves
> DOMXML_API_VERSION to php_domxml.h.
> 
> Compiled and tested on windows and linux.
> 
> There wasn't any objections before when I proposed it so im committing now.
> 
> - Brad
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Index: php_domxml.c
===
RCS file: /repository/php4/ext/domxml/php_domxml.c,v
retrieving revision 1.159
diff -u -r1.159 php_domxml.c
--- php_domxml.c19 May 2002 00:02:05 -  1.159
+++ php_domxml.c31 May 2002 05:39:19 -
@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@
+--+
  */
 
-/* $Id: php_domxml.c,v 1.159 2002/05/19 00:02:05 sniper Exp $ */
+/* $Id: php_domxml.c,v 1.118.2.8 2002/05/03 15:16:14 chregu Exp $ */
 
 /* TODO
  * - Support Notation Nodes
@@ -34,14 +34,12 @@
 #include "ext/standard/info.h"
 #define PHP_XPATH 1
 #define PHP_XPTR 2
-/* DOMXML API_VERSION, please bump it up, if you change anything in the API
-therefore it's easier for the script-programmers to check, what's working how 
-   Can be checked with phpversion("domxml");
-*/
-#define DOMXML_API_VERSION "20020516"
 
 /* General macros used by domxml */
-#define DOMXML_DOMOBJ_NEW(zval, obj, ret)  if (NULL == (zval = 
php_domobject_new(obj, ret TSRMLS_CC))) { \
+
+#define DOMXML_IS_TYPE(zval, ce)   (zval && 
+Z_TYPE_P(zval) == IS_OBJECT && Z_OBJCE_P(zval)->refcount == ce->refcount)
+
+#define DOMXML_DOMOBJ_NEW(zval, obj, ret)  if (NULL == (zval = 
+php_domobject_new(obj, ret, zval TSRMLS_CC))) { \
   
 php_error(E_WARNING, "%s(): cannot create required DOM 
object", \
   
   get_active_function_name(TSRMLS_C)); \
   
 RETURN_FALSE; \
@@ -203,9 +201,9 @@
PHP_FE(html_doc,   
 NULL)
PHP_FE(html_doc_file,  
 NULL)
 #endif
-   PHP_FE(domxml_xmltree, 
 NULL)
-   PHP_FALIAS(xmltree,
 domxml_xmltree, NULL)
-   PHP_FE(domxml_substitute_entities_default, 
 NULL)
+   PHP_FE(domxml_xmltree, 
+ NULL)
+   PHP_FALIAS(xmltree, domxml_xmltree, NULL)
+   PHP_FE(domxml_substitute_entities_default, 
+

[PHP-DEV] domxml changes

[brad lafountain]

I was talking before about making changes to domxml. The changes involved
allowing users to create nodes without having a domdocument.

$node = new DomElement("myNewElement");
$node->set_content("stuff");
echo $node->dump_node();

it also allows you to create a document in the same way

$node = new DomDocument("foo");
echo $node->dump_mem();

Why I decided to do this is because have have an internal (to my extension) xml
doc tree that i want userland code to be able to create a node and pass it into
a function then my extension will attach it to my xml doc tree. The patch also
lets extension developers create domnodes from the c level with
php_domobject_new();

here is a small sample

xmlNodePtr node;

node = xmlNewNode(null, "mynode");
return_value = php_domobject_new(node, &found, NULL);


This would create a new php dom node and return it to userland for further
processing.


It also removes some duplicate code in xmldocfile. It also moves
DOMXML_API_VERSION to php_domxml.h.

Compiled and tested on windows and linux.

There wasn't any objections before when I proposed it so im committing now.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2 / bundling locations

[brad lafountain]

--- Dan Kalowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2002, brad lafountain wrote:
> 
> > I personally will take responsiblity for bundling and upgrading it.
> 
> Brad,
> 
> Nothing personal (so please don't take it that way), but in my opinion
> this isn't a good enough assurance.  Historically you will see people
> come and people go with Open Source development, and while you have a lot
> of free time to do this now, N months from now will you?

 Free Time? Who says i have that?

 Months from now I honistly can't say what i'll be doing. For all I know i
could get hit by a car. I don't plan on ditching my contributions anytime soon.
But I don't see my contributions a factor in deciding if we should bundle
libxml.

 We are only talking about a few cvs commands here! We aren't talking about a
huge effort.

> 
> As Rasmus stated earlier the reason the MySQL stuff is bundled is due to
> an assurance from the MySQL developers to keep it updated.  They know
> their code inside and out.  I'm not familiar with what you do or don't
> know, or what development you're active in either.  Unless you were/are an
> active developer on the libxml code, the ability to introduce bugs
> completely dependent to the PHP bundle is increased considerably due to
> bad merges.

 I don't see bad merges a problem here. It's not like I would be applying
patches or getting the latest and greates from libxml's cvs. Peridocially
someone would just need to update the source files from the 'newest' release.

 But as I explained before besides bug fixes and speed increases you wouldn't
get much from keeping totally up to date with the bundled libxml.

And again.. its not like we are forcing the version on the user nor making it
an inconvenionce for them if they already have libxml installed.

> 
> I really see little to no advantage to this bundling yet.  Only
> increasingly more reasons not to do this.

 I really dont see this. 

 I don't know how much developement other people do but use xml/xml
techiologies on a daily basis. I see this is the trend of many developers but I
obvisouly cant speak for them.

 The ability to build outta the box is also what many system admins what to
see, maybe not the hacker ones but the ones who "just get the job done". I also
know alot of managers that will pay for software just cuase it runs outta the
box. No needing to depend on other software is installed. 

 So with thoes two statements it makes total sence to go thru the process of
bundling something as important as libxml.


 Ok we bundle gd... gd is very usefull for many sites/applications but common
don't you feel that xml is a little bit more important than gd?

The only downside here is the filesize of the source dist and a few developers
already commented that it's not that big of a deal.

Seriously we bundle expat why wouldn't we bundle libxml. It's way more usefull
than expat.


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[PHP-DEV] bundling

[brad lafountain]

This was brought up before.

Instead of bundling libaries in 
php4/ext/mysql/libmysql

they could be put in

php4/bundled/libmysql

This will help other extensions use bundled libaries. 

maybe if mod_mysql for session handling is created then
it can link against the bundled mysql lib.


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Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2 / bundling locations

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--- "Stig S. Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 18:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 May 2002, brad lafountain wrote:
> > 
> > >  The 2M size has alot of stuff that we wouldn't need. Im sure we can get
> it
> > > down to under 500K.
> > 
> > I still think 500kb is too much for something the most ppl already have 
> > installed.
> 
> Having a too old version installed doesn't help much in this case. :-)
> 
> If Brad is able to trim down libxml2 to a reasonable size, I'm +1

 Got it a little under 800k 

 Just the c source alone was 500k. There are a few source files with > 1
lines.


 I still would like to see it bundled. I do understand that libxml2 is being
developed regulary but since domxml does require a semi-new version of libxml2
that most people don't have. I don't know when 2.4.14 was released but the date
on the file server is 2/8/2002. Thats pretty recent. I don't/didn't have that
version installed on my system. Pretty much every project that i work on uses
some kinda xml processing I don't know if thats true for a majority of people
or not but I definlty rely on it alot. If we bundle 2.4.14 we can change
domxml's config script to detect the version on the system if its greater than
2.4.14 then it can link against that version if it isn't then it will use the
bundled version. As far as upgrading the version that is bundled. How often or
if ever do we need to. If changes in domxml require a newer version of libxml2
then thats when we can upgrade the bundled lib otherwise we wouldn't need to.
>From my understanding libxml2 is faster than expat? and all the things like
ext/xml and ext/xmlrpc can be converted to libxml2? Since we do bundle expat i
don't see the big problem with bundling libxml2. 

So the only down side I see is the filesize of php? I don't see that as too
much of a problem but thats just my opnion too.

I personally will take responsiblity for bundling and upgrading it.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2 / bundling locations

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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> 
> > I think that XML is a core technology and giving plug&play access to our 
> > users is important. Having bundled the MySQL library made it easier for 
> > people to get started with MySQL. Does that mean I think every library 
> > should be bundled with PHP? No, I don't.
> > But if libxml2 is a moving target and it's hard to stay in sync then it 
> > certainly sounds beneficial to take away this headache from our users. It 
> > also means that other XML based extensions could use it by default.
> > Of course it also depends how big it is. If we can strip it down a lot I'd 
> > be a +1. If it'd add 1 MB to our .tar.gz I would be against.
> 
> THe normal source distribution is almost 2 MB...

 The 2M size has alot of stuff that we wouldn't need. Im sure we can get it
down to under 500K.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2 / bundling locations

[brad lafountain]

My point of view is domxml does require a newish version of libxml2. It't not
going to hurt if we bundle that version with php. The configure script can even
detect a version that is installed on the system. If its greater than the
packaged one then it can use that one instead alsogive the user to overide the
bundled libxml2 --enable-domxml=/path/to/new/xml. I really don't see any ill
effects with bundling. We bundle for the people don't regulary upgrade software
and we allow auto config/overriding for people that do. Why do you think that
.net will do so good (becides m$ forcing it on us). They run one installer and
bingo everything "works". People will say "its easy to setup". 

 - Brad

--- Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 08:12:27AM +0900, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote : 
> > Brad Lafountain wrote:
> > >Ok, 
> > >
> > > But take ext/domxml it requires a newerversion of libxml2. I didn't have 
> > > it
> > >installed on my machine when i installed php. If we bundle say a specfic
> > >version of libxml2 that domxml depends on, then it won't matter how fast 
> > >pased
> > >the development is, ext/domxml won't use it. We can obvisouly peridocially
> > >upgrade the version that is bundled and you can have an override if you 
> > >want to
> > >use a different version that is installed on a system. As xml gets more
> and
> > >more popular i feel that domxml will be more and more popular.
> > >
> > > "Build outta the box"
> > 
> > +1 for libxml2 bundle. This already discussed, isn't this?
> 
> -1
> 
> It's very actively developed. What is the reason of shared
> libraries if we don't use it?! GD is a completely different
> story. I even think it's not necessary to bundle
> libmysqlclient because it's really installed everywhere where
> mysql is available.
> 
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[PHP-DEV] Fwd: Re: libxml2 - php

[brad lafountain]

--- Daniel Veillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 23:28:11 +0200
> From: Daniel Veillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: brad lafountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: libxml2 - php
> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 10:35:44AM -0700, brad lafountain wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> >  I'm a developer for php. We were recently talking about bundling libxml2
> with
> > the php distribution. I'm not to sure about the licensing issues involved
> here
> > but I figured I'd just ask you and get your permission. Let me know your
> > thoughts/concerns.
> 
>   libxml2 is licenced under the MIT Licence, I honnestly don't
> think bundling would be a problem at that level.
>   However on a practical basis it would be better that you use
> the existing shared library if libxml2 is already installed on the
> system rather than always including it in the PHP module/binary.
> Others Apache modules may use libxml2 too and sharing the same instance
> can make a big change. for maintainance too !
> 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2 / bundling locations

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Ok, 

 But take ext/domxml it requires a newerversion of libxml2. I didn't have it
installed on my machine when i installed php. If we bundle say a specfic
version of libxml2 that domxml depends on, then it won't matter how fast pased
the development is, ext/domxml won't use it. We can obvisouly peridocially
upgrade the version that is bundled and you can have an override if you want to
use a different version that is installed on a system. As xml gets more and
more popular i feel that domxml will be more and more popular.

 "Build outta the box"

 - Brad

--- Christian Stocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 May 2002, brad lafountain wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> >
> >  It was mentioned before about bundling libxml2 with php with expat or
> instead
> > of expat. Where do we stand with this? I emailed the developer asking
> > permission to bundle it if we choose to do it (no response yet).
> 
> öhm, libxml2 is a relatively huge project with a fast developement cycle..
> I don't see the point in bundling that with php. It's actively maintained
> (not as for example gd), we don't need any patches to get it running and
> it comes with most (all?) distros (not installed by default everywhere,
> but it's available). And installation from source is also no pain at
> all...
> 
> chregu
> 
> 
> 
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[PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2 / bundling locations

[brad lafountain]

Hello all,

 It was mentioned before about bundling libxml2 with php with expat or instead
of expat. Where do we stand with this? I emailed the developer asking
permission to bundle it if we choose to do it (no response yet).


Also I remember reading on here before someone suggested putting bundled
libaries in a common place so many extensions can use the bundled software. Is
this something we want to persue too?

 php4/bundled/libxml2
 php4/bundled/mysql
 php4/bundled/gd

you get the point.. 

 This will be usefull if i am writing an extension that maybe does database
replication (just a stupid sample) and i want to create nice graphics for my
stastics i can just write some gd code and link against the bundled libary.

 - Brad


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] [RESENT] [PATCH] Allow constants / expressions to be passed by reference]

[brad lafountain]

I have ran into this limitation too

or something like

foo();
or
foo($bar);

function foo(&$bar = null)
{
}


--- Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't see any reason to allow passing non-variables by reference.
> It is semantically incorrect.
> 
> Andi
> 
> At 09:40 29/05/2002 +0200, Stig S. Bakken wrote:
> >If this patch doesn't break anything, and it doesn't give us any
> >difficulties with ZE2 or major design issues, I'm +1.
> >
> >  - Stig
> >
> >On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 21:12, Jason T. Greene wrote:
> > > Due to this patch being sent during the msession discussion, it has not
> > > been noticed, so I am resending.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Jason
> > > 
> > >
> >
> > > From: Jason Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] Allow constants / expressions to be passed 
> > by reference
> > > Date: 25 May 2002 02:18:52 -0500
> > >
> > > Problem
> > > ---
> > >
> > > There are some scenarios where a function requires the ability to modify
> > > parameters that may also be optional. Optional parameters work well,
> > > except in the scenario where all of the pass by reference parameters can
> > > be optional. ex the socket_select() function. Since select is
> > > argument-result, all three arrays that are taken as input must be passed
> > > by reference, yet any can be excluded. So for example if you were
> > > calling socket_select with a read socket array, a write socket array,
> > > yet no exception array (quite common), you are currently forced to do
> > > something like the following:
> > >
> > > $wfds = array($sock1, $sock2);
> > > $rfds = array($sock3, $sock4);
> > > $null = NULL;
> > >
> > > socket_select($rfds, $wfds, $null);
> > >
> > >
> > > I have ran into this problem before several times while developing in
> > > user space. (Especially when passing around semi-complex data
> > > structures)
> > >
> > > Proposed Solution
> > > --
> > >
> > > Allow all expressions to be passed by reference. This will allow
> > > something like the following
> > >
> > > function  normalize(&$element_tree, &$node_mapping, $max_depth){
> > > //Code
> > > }
> > >
> > > normalize($my_tree, NULL, 25000);
> > >
> > >
> > > Patch
> > > --
> > >
> > > I have attached a patch against ZE2 that accomplishes this.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
> > > Index: zend_compile.c
> > > ===
> > > RCS file: /repository/ZendEngine2/zend_compile.c,v
> > > retrieving revision 1.285
> > > diff -u -r1.285 zend_compile.c
> > > --- zend_compile.c23 Apr 2002 18:06:53 -  1.285
> > > +++ zend_compile.c25 May 2002 06:45:21 -
> > > @@ -1271,7 +1271,7 @@
> > >   op = ZEND_SEND_REF;
> > >   break;
> > >   default:
> > > - zend_error(E_COMPILE_ERROR, "Only 
> > variables can be passed by reference");
> > > + op = ZEND_SEND_VAR;
> > >   break;
> > >   }
> > >   }
> > > Index: zend_execute.c
> > > ===
> > > RCS file: /repository/ZendEngine2/zend_execute.c,v
> > > retrieving revision 1.341
> > > diff -u -r1.341 zend_execute.c
> > > --- zend_execute.c8 May 2002 18:43:19 -   1.341
> > > +++ zend_execute.c25 May 2002 06:45:25 -
> > > @@ -2292,10 +2292,6 @@
> > >   NEXT_OPCODE();
> > >   }
> > >   case ZEND_SEND_VAL:
> > > - if 
> > (EX(opline)->extended_value==ZEND_DO_FCALL_BY_NAME
> > > - && 
> > ARG_SHOULD_BE_SENT_BY_REF(EX(opline)->op2.u.opline_num, EX(fbc), 
> > EX(fbc)->common.arg_types)) {
> > > - zend_error(E_ERROR, 
> > "Cannot pass parameter %d by reference", EX(opline)->op2.u.opline_num);
> > > - }
> > >   {
> > >   zval *valptr;
> > >   zval *value;
> > > @@ -2329,7 +2325,8 @@
> > > 
> > zend_ptr_stack_push(&EG(argument_stack), varptr);
> > >   NEXT_OPCODE();
> > >   }
> > > - zend_error(E_ERROR, "Only 
> > variables can be passed by reference");
> > > + /* Should only occur with an 
> > uninitialized variable */
> > > + goto send_by_var;
> > >   }
> > >   NEXT_OPCODE();
> > >   case ZEND_SEND_VAR:
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
> > > --
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[PHP-DEV] karma - group at php dot net

[brad lafountain]

Ive mailed group at php dot net a few times.
I keep on getting a failed notice response back.

Who should I mail for karma.


 - Brad

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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP-SOAP features

[brad lafountain]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2002, brad lafountain wrote:
> 
> > Ok, 
> > 
> >  I know not too many people are familure with my extension so I am going to
> go
> > over some stuff that it does do and stuff it doesn't.
> > 
> > The plans i have for this extension are more than just a simple soap/rpc
> > function calls. I want to build a frame work that people can deploy
> existing
> > php objects as SoapObject. Making php a very fast soap application server
> > having exactly the same functionality as SRM but allowing non php clients
> > access the objects. In addition to making php-soap a soap application
> server i
> > have plans have the frame work be able to handle a cluster of soap
> application
> > servers. 
> 
> Then why not help us integrate a SOAP communication layer in SRM?
> Saves the work of building that app server, plus we already are working 
> on this and also designing a framework for clusterlike applications. 

 Well i hope that phpsoap can get to a point where you can intergrate my
extension with SRM. But as far as SRM instead of php soap application server. I
don't think that would work as good. phpsoap doesn't require a deamon running.
And the clustering stuff that im working on isn't phpsoap centric is phpsession
specific so its a more generic clustering soulition. People can use it for
clustering php servers with out SRM or phpsoap.

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[PHP-DEV] PHP-SOAP features

[brad lafountain]

Ok, 

 I know not too many people are familure with my extension so I am going to go
over some stuff that it does do and stuff it doesn't.

The plans i have for this extension are more than just a simple soap/rpc
function calls. I want to build a frame work that people can deploy existing
php objects as SoapObject. Making php a very fast soap application server
having exactly the same functionality as SRM but allowing non php clients
access the objects. In addition to making php-soap a soap application server i
have plans have the frame work be able to handle a cluster of soap application
servers. 

I currently use this exacty technology at work and it works great.
I'll try to walk you thru how exactly it works and how powerfull it is.

//MyClass.php
db = connect_to_db();
  }

  function getName()
  {
return $this->name;
  }

  function setName($name)
  {
$this->name = $name;
  }
 
  function save()
  {
$query = "update table blah";
db_query($query); 
  }

  function load()
  {
$query = "select * from table";
$res = db_query($query);
$this->name = $res['name'];
  }
}
?>

So this is a normal db aware object written in php (it obviously doesn't work
but you get the idea).

//somescript.php
load();
$person->setName("brad");
$person->save();
?>

Now again.. this script doesn't make much sence alone but make a gui use the
object and it works good.


Ok now we have our class and a php script to use it. 

Now we want to make MyClass a SoapObject. Using php-soap

//MyClassServer.php
setClass("MyClass");
$server->setPersistence(SOAP_PERSISTENCE_SESSION);
$server->handle();
?>

so one file and 5 lines of code turns MyClass into a SoapObject...
all methods are exposed from MyClass and the
setPersistence(SOAP_PERSISTENCE_SESSION) tells php-soap-server to use php's
session handling to persist the object.

Ok now we write our soap client.
// MyClassClient.php
http://localhost/MyClassServer.php";);
$person->load();
$person->setName("brad");
$person->save();
?>

now as you can see you use the object EXACTLY the same as a soap object as you
use it a local object. Since the server was set up to persist the object each
subsequent call to the same soap object sends the php session id back to the
server the server will restore the session (the created object) and invoke the
next method on the object.

Now i wrote the client in php just for an example but any soap client can use
that php object like a normal object. As long as it will pass the session id
back to the server on each request. 

So basically you have a soap enabled php object that you can run remotely. This
is a generic soultion to j2ee or SRM and a simpler, faster soultion to .net.

Since php soap is using php's session handling you can totally control where
the objects go. I also am currently working two different session handlers one
mod_remote that allows you to grab session info from a remote php server. Kinda
like msession works but a more generic way. You can configure the php session
server to use mod_mm or mod_files or mod_user but still allowing a remote
session server to access its session info. 

Another session handler will allow you to replicate session information.
What this will allow you to do is cluster your phpsoap object servers
replicating all session information to other servers so incase the server that
the object got created on goes down or if the next request got load ballaced to
a different machine the object can still be used.

using thoes two together you can create a realy nice redudent clustered soap
service.

 I will have more on that setup and how it works when i acually get done with
it.


Ok now here is how i use it at work (along with the clustering).
We will be using java for our frontends to our databases. We are going to
deploy these java applications to end users now we obvisouly don't want to open
up our database up to the world let alone use JDBC!. So i created a bunch of
data access objects written in php so im using native dabase calls. Soap
Enabled them with php soap. Build a java gui using a soap client and there you
go a database application. But the best part is if i want to create a MFC
application or a VB application i don't need to rewrite my php database
objects. So if we deploy our frontends to end users all we have to open up is a
simple webserver on port 80.



Now i currently am trying to implement alot of features in php-soap to allow
script writers to override the functionality of the core engine.  Here is an
example.

php-soap encodes hashtable with the apache namespace and that defines a
hashtable to be encoded as follows.


  some_key
  some_value


  some_key2
  some_value2


now i just found out that M$ decited to encode their hashtables differntly.
So they encode them as follows


 some_key
 some_key2


 some_value
 some_value2


So obviosuly php-soap won't be able to interop with .net's hashtables. 
(I think they way they encode it is a crock of  but hey they make all t

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL

[brad lafountain]

--- "Stig S. Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 00:10, brad lafountain wrote:
> > 
> > --- "Stig S. Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 23:28, brad lafountain wrote:
> > > > One reason is xmlrpc doesn't have everything that goes along with soap.
> > > > meaning WSDL UDDI WebServiceSecurity. 
> > > 
> > > WSDL can be implemented through the introspection stuff in ext/xmlrpc. 
> > > It's just about describing/documenting the available interfaces, right?
> > > 
> > > UDDI is just a catalog service AFAIK, so that would fit better on top of
> > > the SOAP stuff.
> > > 
> > > >  and as far as i understand that xmlrpc doesn't work on windows.
> > > > 
> > > >  and with some benchmarks phpsoap so far was 3 times as fast as xmlrpc.
> > > 
> > > Really?  What XML parser are you using?
> > 
> >  libxml2...
> 
> I'd really like stuff like this to build out of the box in PHP. 
> Bundling expat was great because we didn't have to think about it
> anymore.  My impression is that libxml2 is rarely installed by default
> (GNOME still uses 1.8 for instance).  But I guess we'll have to deal
> with that sooner or later anyway, since libxml2 looks like the best xml
> library out there and more extensions want to use it.
> 
> Could we bundle libxml2, or does the LGPL prevent us from doing that?

 I don't know about the LGPL but i would love to see it bundled. This would
also help the domxml extension cause it requires a newer version than most
people have.

 - Brad
> 
>  - Stig
> 
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RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL

[brad lafountain]

--- "Stig S. Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 23:28, brad lafountain wrote:
> > One reason is xmlrpc doesn't have everything that goes along with soap.
> > meaning WSDL UDDI WebServiceSecurity. 
> 
> WSDL can be implemented through the introspection stuff in ext/xmlrpc. 
> It's just about describing/documenting the available interfaces, right?
> 
> UDDI is just a catalog service AFAIK, so that would fit better on top of
> the SOAP stuff.
> 
> >  and as far as i understand that xmlrpc doesn't work on windows.
> > 
> >  and with some benchmarks phpsoap so far was 3 times as fast as xmlrpc.
> 
> Really?  What XML parser are you using?

 libxml2...

 - Brad

> 
> >  - Brad
> > 
> > --- "Stig S. Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > PHP already has SOAP support bundled in the xmlrpc extension, which is
> > > built upon the xmlrpc-epi library that we bundle.  Why can't people
> > > improve that instead of re-inventing more wheels in all shapes and
> > > sizes?  When we bundle a library, we should use it.
> > > 
> > >  - Stig
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 17:52, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> > > > I think it's important to have a main stream soap implementation
> bundled 
> > > > with PHP and not a zillion different implementations floating around.
> > > > If there is enough interest we could setup a Soap mailing list where 
> > > > interested people could cooperate possibly basing the "official" PHP
> Soap 
> > > > implementation on existing work, for example, Brad's work. As I
> personally 
> > > > don't have the knowledge nor the time I'm just making the suggestion :)
> 
> > > > It's up to people who are interested in this topic to move it forward.
> > > > I think it would be extremely beneficial to PHP.
> > > > Andi
> > > > 
> > > > At 17:52 23/05/2002 +0200, phpsurf wrote:
> > > > >hi
> > > > >
> > > > >brad lafountain is working on a Soap extension which is not far from
> being
> > > > >stable.
> > > > >he made a good use of WSDL ...
> > > > >
> > > > >you should have look to http://phpsoaptoolkit.sourceforge.net/phpsoap/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Markus Wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: jeudi 23 mai 2002 15:29
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am Thu, 23 May 2002 14:57:45 +0200 schrieb "Lukas Smith"
> > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is the current status in terms of SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL in
> php?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How mature are the solutions?
> > > > > > > When will they be ready for primetime?
> > > > > > > Does anyone already use them in production (that can be used to
> show
> > > off
> > > > > > > how great the support is) or are there any other prominent
> examples?
> > > (I
> > > > > > > know the pear installer uses XMLRPC and Sebastian did something
> with
> > > > > > > Googles Webservices)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We´ve been trying to make a PEAR::SOAP webservice talk to a VB.NET
> SOAP
> > > > > > client. It does work very well when you stick to passing most
> primitive
> > > > > > datatypes around: Strings, Integers, Floats, Booleans ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It stops being fun when you´re trying more complex structures like
> > > > > > resultsets from SQL-Queries. Those could be represented and passed
> via
> > > > > > SOAP as two-dimensional arrays, and in theory you could either use
> a
> > > > > > loosely typed two-dimensional array or an array of struct to
> represent
> > > > > > that data in the VB.NET client - but we did not yet manage to make
> the
> > > > > > client recognize and deserialize the SOAP data from the PHP script.
> > > > > >
> > > > > &g

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL

[brad lafountain]

Well my extension i was going for a solid implmentation of soap that could run
out of the box. With many features and tightly intergrated with zend and other
extensions like domxml and php-streams. I think my extension has some value
here. I would like to see my soap be the soap implementation that you speak of.

Again, I have cvs accounts and a "php" look-a-like website all hosted on
sourceforge.net. I don't mind converting everything to php cvs and php site.
When i first started working on this extension, the list didn't seem to
interested so i went of on my own and built a website and put it up on
sourceforge. More people are obvisouly interested now maybe i can put this in
the right place.

 - Brad
 
--- Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then go for soap, that's fine too.
> The most important thing is that we manage to get good SOAP support into 
> PHP which will work out of the box and can be documented officially in the 
> manual.
> 
> Andi
> 
> At 14:08 23/05/2002 -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> >I really don't like the term Web Services.  SOAP is an RPC mechanism and
> >has nothing to do with the web despite what M$ would like to have you
> >think.
> >
> >-Rasmus
> >
> >On Fri, 24 May 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> >
> > > As I mentioned earlier I am a big +1 for it.
> > > Probably php-webservices@ is even better as it covers more and sounds 
> > good :)
> > >
> > > Andi
> > >
> > > At 11:05 23/05/2002 -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> > > >So do we want a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list?  I can set it up if
> > > >you say the word.
> > > >
> > > >-Rasmus
> > > >
> > > >On Thu, 23 May 2002, Shane Caraveo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I would be happy to lead the effort on the soap front.  I've spoken a
> > > > > bit with Brad about combining our efforts but got sidetracked over
> the
> > > > > last couple weeks so haven't followed up on that.  I'm also not sure
> > > > > whether Deitrich is tied to NuSphere with his work, it'd be nice if
> we
> > > > > could get him to work on this also (I'm sure he's lurking here ;).
> > > > > There have been a couple others contacting me about working on the
> soap
> > > > > stuff as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Shane
> > > > >
> > > > > Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > pear/SOAP seems to work pretty well.  There are few people out 
> > there that
> > > > > know more about SOAP than Shane and I am quite comfortable having him
> > > > > spearheading this effort.  We can easily set up a php-soap mailing 
> > list if
> > > > > enough people are interested.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rasmus
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 23 May 2002, Lukas Smith wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  > Yeah, I keep seeing PHP SOAP and XMLRPC being announce packages
> > > > >  > everywhere.
> > > > >  > But incompatible API's will not benefit PHP much and the efforts
> are
> > > > >  > simply redundant.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > I think it would make sense to create such a mailinglist.
> > > > >  > As I am still fairly busy with working on a merge of Metabase 
> > and PEAR
> > > > >  > DB called MDB (blatant plug :-) ) I can't spend as much time as 
> > I would
> > > > >  > wish on this topic.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > For now I will try to order the feedback I get and put together 
> > a little
> > > > >  > static page with the content.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > Basically I will take every package I find and list it there and 
> > put any
> > > > >  > comments people send regarding that package underneath.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > Best regards,
> > > > >  > Lukas Smith
> > > > >  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
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RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL

[brad lafountain]

One reason is xmlrpc doesn't have everything that goes along with soap.
meaning WSDL UDDI WebServiceSecurity. 

 and as far as i understand that xmlrpc doesn't work on windows.

 and with some benchmarks phpsoap so far was 3 times as fast as xmlrpc.


 - Brad

--- "Stig S. Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PHP already has SOAP support bundled in the xmlrpc extension, which is
> built upon the xmlrpc-epi library that we bundle.  Why can't people
> improve that instead of re-inventing more wheels in all shapes and
> sizes?  When we bundle a library, we should use it.
> 
>  - Stig
> 
> On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 17:52, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> > I think it's important to have a main stream soap implementation bundled 
> > with PHP and not a zillion different implementations floating around.
> > If there is enough interest we could setup a Soap mailing list where 
> > interested people could cooperate possibly basing the "official" PHP Soap 
> > implementation on existing work, for example, Brad's work. As I personally 
> > don't have the knowledge nor the time I'm just making the suggestion :) 
> > It's up to people who are interested in this topic to move it forward.
> > I think it would be extremely beneficial to PHP.
> > Andi
> > 
> > At 17:52 23/05/2002 +0200, phpsurf wrote:
> > >hi
> > >
> > >brad lafountain is working on a Soap extension which is not far from being
> > >stable.
> > >he made a good use of WSDL ...
> > >
> > >you should have look to http://phpsoaptoolkit.sourceforge.net/phpsoap/
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Markus Wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: jeudi 23 mai 2002 15:29
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am Thu, 23 May 2002 14:57:45 +0200 schrieb "Lukas Smith"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >
> > > > > What is the current status in terms of SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL in php?
> > > > >
> > > > > How mature are the solutions?
> > > > > When will they be ready for primetime?
> > > > > Does anyone already use them in production (that can be used to show
> off
> > > > > how great the support is) or are there any other prominent examples?
> (I
> > > > > know the pear installer uses XMLRPC and Sebastian did something with
> > > > > Googles Webservices)
> > > >
> > > > We´ve been trying to make a PEAR::SOAP webservice talk to a VB.NET SOAP
> > > > client. It does work very well when you stick to passing most primitive
> > > > datatypes around: Strings, Integers, Floats, Booleans ...
> > > >
> > > > It stops being fun when you´re trying more complex structures like
> > > > resultsets from SQL-Queries. Those could be represented and passed via
> > > > SOAP as two-dimensional arrays, and in theory you could either use a
> > > > loosely typed two-dimensional array or an array of struct to represent
> > > > that data in the VB.NET client - but we did not yet manage to make the
> > > > client recognize and deserialize the SOAP data from the PHP script.
> > > >
> > > > I have not the slightest idea where to start looking. I´ve read tons of
> > > > articles on SOAP and WSDL, but all in all, the quality of documentation
> > > > on this topic sucks.
> > > >
> > > > PEAR::SOAP itself is as good as undocumented (at least the server part)
> > > > and the documentation for .NET webservices mostly talks about
> connecting
> > > > an ASP.NET webservice to a C# or VB.NET client. When it comes to making
> > > > SOAP calls to a client/server on another software platform, or even if
> > > > you just want to use SOAP-RPC encoding instead of the default
> > > > Document/Literal encoding that .NET does, the documentation is very
> > > > uncomplete.
> > > >
> > > > Thing is, you _have_ to use SOAP-RPC encoding because PEAR::SOAP does
> > > > not yet support Document/Literal (in fact, Microsoft seem to be the
> only
> > > > ones who use this encoding method by default or even fully support it).
> > > >
> > > > I guess when it comes to maturity, all available implementations in any
> > > > language still have 

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL

[brad lafountain]

Ok here I am

I do already have some email lists up for my extension.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've been doing ALOT of work with my extension. And i currently do use it live
at work. We have a java interface talking to "SoapObjects" on the server. This
is extremly powerfull cause it take advantage of php seralization and php
sessions to "persist" php-soap objects. So basicall you have a php-soap
application server that can commiuncate with any client. Run a php object in
any language that supports soap.

here are some snipplits that explain what im doing

http://serverendpoint.com/somescript.php";,
"urn:Test");
$client->setData("someData");
echo $client->getData();
$client->destroy();
?>

setClass("myClass");
$server->setPersistence(SOAP_PERSISTENCE_SESSION);
$server->handle();

class myClass
{
 var $data;
 function setData($data)
 {
  $this->data = $data;
 }
 function getData()
 {
  return $this->data;
 }
 function destroy()
 {
   session_destroy();
 }
}
?>

now with the above example you can see how you can have "persitiant" php
objects "running" on a remote server. I use this type of functionality in my
java gui. All of my database objects are writtin in php they do the data
extract. Then the java gui can fetch the data. Now if i don't like java i can
create php-gtk appliation use php-soap and i don't need to re-write my database
objects or MFC or VB etc etc. And now you can give this gui application to
customers and have them run it... and if you ever want to change your
underlaying db structure or any business logic you don't need to release a new
application you can control it thru your phpsoapobjects.

Since the "perstited" object is using php-session handling you can control
where the objects go. So i take it a step further i use msession to handle my
objects. Now i can have a "cluster" of php-soap application servers each soap
call "method call" can run on a different server or if you want pure speed you
can set up your session handling to use mod_mm but you don't have the whole
clustering part.

My extension is very young. it still needs alot of work but it also includes
alot of functionality.

the website is
http://phpsoaptoolkit.sourceforge.net/


 - Brad

--- Dietrich Ayala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i'm under contract. i'd definitely contribute as much as possible on the list
> though :)
> 
> i think these are excellent steps for PHP in this area. i get an amazing
> amount of NuSOAP-related email every day from developers
> who (for whatever reason) think that SOAP is the shiznit, and are creating
> all kinds of crazy web services. Most are trying to talk
> to other SOAP toolkits (mostly .NET & Apache).
> 
> suggestions:
> 1. interop is key. get an endpoint up for brad's extension, and register it
> w/ soapbuilders list.
> 2. implement solid document-oriented messaging support (doc/lit) into brad's
> extension.
> 
> dietrich
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Shane Caraveo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:04 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
> >
> >
> >
> > I would be happy to lead the effort on the soap front.  I've spoken a
> > bit with Brad about combining our efforts but got sidetracked over the
> > last couple weeks so haven't followed up on that.  I'm also not sure
> > whether Deitrich is tied to NuSphere with his work, it'd be nice if we
> > could get him to work on this also (I'm sure he's lurking here ;).
> > There have been a couple others contacting me about working on the soap
> > stuff as well.
> >
> > Shane
> >
> > Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> >
> > pear/SOAP seems to work pretty well.  There are few people out there that
> > know more about SOAP than Shane and I am quite comfortable having him
> > spearheading this effort.  We can easily set up a php-soap mailing list if
> > enough people are interested.
> >
> > -Rasmus
> >
> > On Thu, 23 May 2002, Lukas Smith wrote:
> >
> >
> >  > Yeah, I keep seeing PHP SOAP and XMLRPC being announce packages
> >  > everywhere.
> >  > But incompatible API's will not benefit PHP much and the efforts are
> >  > simply redundant.
> >  >
> >  > I think it would make sense to create such a mailinglist.
> >  > As I am still fairly busy with working on a merge of Metabase and PEAR
> >  > DB called MDB (blatant plug :-) ) I can't spend as much time as I would
> >  > wish on this topic.
> >  >
> >  > For now I will try to order the feedback I get and put together a little
> >  > static page with the content.
> >  >
> >  > Basically I will take every package I find and list it there and put any
> >  > comments people send regarding that package underneath.
> >  >
> >  > Best regards,
> >  > Lukas Smith
> >  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] classes example

[brad lafountain]

you can look at 
ext/domxml 
ext/COM 
ext/java

... this should do it

zend_class_entry obj;
INIT_CLASS_ENTRY(obj, "class", internal_functions);
zend_register_internal_class(&obj);

--- fabwash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sorry wasn't clear enough. I'm writing an extension and I want it to be used
> as a class.
> 
> Fab.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "fabwash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] classes example
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > this is the wrong list for user questions, you'd want the
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailinglist.
> >
> > Derick
> >
> > On Wed, 22 May 2002, fabwash wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > what is the best example to use to write classes? The documentation is
> clear about functions, but not really about classes or I missed something. I
> need to find out how to define an object and its methods, and make them
> visible to the scripts.
> > >
> > > Fab.
> > >
> >
> > --
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[PHP-DEV] zend_multibyte.c

[brad lafountain]

What exactly does this do.

Is zend going to support multbyte characters?

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[PHP-DEV] karma

[brad lafountain]

How would i go about getting karma for cvs commits?


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Re: [PHP-DEV] multithreading

[brad lafountain]

PHP isn't threadable... PHP is Thread Safe meaning you can run multiple php
scripts on multiple threads for the samp process but you can't create threads
inside php code.

What i don't see is why you want to go from cron .. using ither php-cli or
cgi.. to using threads. It seems you are just trying to run a script that you
have multiple times?

You can do system calls inside php shell_exec("php some_script > /dev/null
2>&1"); which will allow you to call a script from a script.

or you can get into unix forking..
http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.pcntl.php

- Brad

--- Andrew Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a PHP script that is run hourly by cron; I would like to make this
> multithreading rather than configure cron to run the script more than once
> per hour.  Is this possible using PHP?  I've tried using ticks, but it
> doesn't appear to work - the tick function doesn't execute more than once at
> the same time...  I'm using 4.1.2.
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated!
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
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