Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Nuno Lopes wrote: Gabor Hojtsy wrote: Gabor Hojtsy wrote: To be constructive, I propose Nuno for a new editor (if he agrees). He has good overview necessary for this position and more than enough skills. I think he has respect from most docteam members. Good candidate. He has a good view on phpdoc, phpweb, user notes, livedocs, etc. Let's gather candidates and/or vote on the already proposed ones. Other votes or candidates? Vrana, Sean. We can have more than one person as "Editor", no? I have though a little on the subject, and I prefer not to be the next editor. I currently don't have much time to spend on phpdoc and I'll have to reduce it over the few next months, as I'm (probably) going to participate in Robocup (the robot soccer world cup). Also, my English isn't as good as it should be.. I would vote on Jakub, because he probably has more time than Sean and has already a good experience (we received the cvs account in the same day :) ) Ah, and I don't think that more than one editor is needed.. Because we all are, more or less, short on time I propose to have more than one person? And by the way, it is not mandatory to have an editor, imho. It would be nice, yes ;-) Friedhelm
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
> he probably has more time than Sean Yes, I appreciate the thought, but I certainly don't consistently have any extra time to devote to phpdoc -- sorry. S
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Hi Goba, Gabor Hojtsy wrote: I hope that my reasons are understandable, and I am certain that we will be able to manage to execute some smooth process of handing the reposibilities and the credits over. It was a great pleasure to work with you, and shape the PHP Documentation into what it is today. Your reasons are very understandable! Once I had the pleasure to meet you in real life (docmeeting linuxtag) and I can certainly say: it was always a great pleasure to work with you! So;), I wish you all the best for your past-phpdoc-life, thanks for your valuable time you spent for this project in the recent years. And maybe once you will be a famous hungarian actor;-? I would hand out invites four our May premier nights, but the play is in Hungarian, and I am afraid, not many of you would understand a word of it, even if you would be able to make it :) Hungarian? Huh ;-) Before I try to learn Hungarian I should improve my English;-) Anyhow it may be fun? But Hungary is a bit far;-) If you play in Germany on your world tour, i will come, for sure;-) All jokes aside: good luck for your premier nights! By the way, I am around at phpweb, and took par in the introduction of the Yahoo Search API based website search deployed today. Give it a try, give suggestions at the webmaster address! I will try it out, later... Friedhelm
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Gabor Hojtsy wrote: Gabor Hojtsy wrote: To be constructive, I propose Nuno for a new editor (if he agrees). He has good overview necessary for this position and more than enough skills. I think he has respect from most docteam members. Good candidate. He has a good view on phpdoc, phpweb, user notes, livedocs, etc. Let's gather candidates and/or vote on the already proposed ones. Other votes or candidates? Vrana, Sean. We can have more than one person as "Editor", no? I have though a little on the subject, and I prefer not to be the next editor. I currently don't have much time to spend on phpdoc and I'll have to reduce it over the few next months, as I'm (probably) going to participate in Robocup (the robot soccer world cup). Also, my English isn't as good as it should be.. I would vote on Jakub, because he probably has more time than Sean and has already a good experience (we received the cvs account in the same day :) ) Ah, and I don't think that more than one editor is needed.. Nuno P.S.: about livedocs, well I wanted to work on it in the last summer, but I couldn't find time for it. I'll see if I can devote some time to it in the next vacations. I really want to rewrite the indexer.
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
>> I hope that my reasons are understandable, and I am certain that we will >> be able to manage to execute some smooth process of handing the >> reposibilities and the credits over. It was a great pleasure to work >> with you, and shape the PHP Documentation into what it is today. > > Your reasons are very understandable! Once I had the pleasure to meet > you in real life (docmeeting linuxtag) and I can certainly say: it was > always a great pleasure to work with you! > So;), I wish you all the best for your past-phpdoc-life, thanks for your > valuable time you spent > for this project in the recent years. And maybe once you will be a > famous hungarian actor;-? I would hand out invites four our May premier nights, but the play is in Hungarian, and I am afraid, not many of you would understand a word of it, even if you would be able to make it :) By the way, I am around at phpweb, and took par in the introduction of the Yahoo Search API based website search deployed today. Give it a try, give suggestions at the webmaster address! Goba
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Hi Goba, Gabor Hojtsy wrote: Hi, I have been pondering through this writeup in the last couple of weeks, and the recent OSCOM events [1] prompted me to be straight and honest, and step back from the leadership of the PHP Documentation and from the list on the documentation frontpage consequently. That is bad news for the doc-team, because I always appreciated your clear, unagitated, constructive, well thought and friendly manner to contribute to the documentation. Yeah, let me say: your contribution was always very welcome and much valuable. Remembering back the days I joined phpdoc, you have been always around, answering questions for newbies like I was, improving, discussing, heck: you have been nearly everywhere. [...] I hope that my reasons are understandable, and I am certain that we will be able to manage to execute some smooth process of handing the reposibilities and the credits over. It was a great pleasure to work with you, and shape the PHP Documentation into what it is today. Your reasons are very understandable! Once I had the pleasure to meet you in real life (docmeeting linuxtag) and I can certainly say: it was always a great pleasure to work with you! So;), I wish you all the best for your past-phpdoc-life, thanks for your valuable time you spent for this project in the recent years. And maybe once you will be a famous hungarian actor;-? So, thanks again, best wishes, good by Friedhelm
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Gabor Hojtsy wrote: Friedhelm Betz wrote: Gabor Hojtsy wrote: Gabor Hojtsy wrote: To be constructive, I propose Nuno for a new editor (if he agrees). He has good overview necessary for this position and more than enough skills. I think he has respect from most docteam members. Good candidate. He has a good view on phpdoc, phpweb, user notes, livedocs, etc. Let's gather candidates and/or vote on the already proposed ones. Other votes or candidates? Vrana, Sean. We can have more than one person as "Editor", no? Yes, you can. Depends on the team choice, if you would like to have :) there used to be multiple editors. I prefer more than one person;-) Friedhelm
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Friedhelm Betz wrote: > Gabor Hojtsy wrote: > >> Gabor Hojtsy wrote: >> To be constructive, I propose Nuno for a new editor (if he agrees). He has good overview necessary for this position and more than enough skills. I think he has respect from most docteam members. >>> >>> Good candidate. He has a good view on phpdoc, phpweb, user notes, >>> livedocs, etc. Let's gather candidates and/or vote on the already >>> proposed ones. >> >> Other votes or candidates? > > Vrana, Sean. > We can have more than one person as "Editor", no? Yes, you can. Depends on the team choice, if you would like to have :) there used to be multiple editors. Goba
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Gabor Hojtsy wrote: Gabor Hojtsy wrote: To be constructive, I propose Nuno for a new editor (if he agrees). He has good overview necessary for this position and more than enough skills. I think he has respect from most docteam members. Good candidate. He has a good view on phpdoc, phpweb, user notes, livedocs, etc. Let's gather candidates and/or vote on the already proposed ones. Other votes or candidates? Vrana, Sean. We can have more than one person as "Editor", no? Friedhelm
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Gabor Hojtsy wrote: >>To be constructive, I propose Nuno for a new editor (if he agrees). He >>has good overview necessary for this position and more than enough >>skills. I think he has respect from most docteam members. > > Good candidate. He has a good view on phpdoc, phpweb, user notes, > livedocs, etc. Let's gather candidates and/or vote on the already > proposed ones. Other votes or candidates? Goba
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
The docs already contains this list, in the form of (previous) honorable contributors. Goba Georg Richter wrote: > Am Fr, den 24.02.2006 schrieb Gabor Hojtsy um 14:47: > > Hmm.. just a thought > > we have editor, we have contributors... > > how about something like a hall of fame? > > Egon Schmid, Gabor Hoitsy, Hartmut Holzgraefe... > > Just my 2 cents
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Am Fr, den 24.02.2006 schrieb Gabor Hojtsy um 14:47: Hmm.. just a thought we have editor, we have contributors... how about something like a hall of fame? Egon Schmid, Gabor Hoitsy, Hartmut Holzgraefe... Just my 2 cents -- Georg Richter, Senior Software Developer MySQL AB, www.mysql.com Are you MySQL certified? www.mysql.com/certification
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Hi, As I explained, I am still about to contribute to the PHP Website team (which is not only replying to emails), as usual, so I am not going away :) We will see, if we can manage to comlete some plans around the php.net site this year. I don't know yet. The website could do a lot with some improved hackability, reduced markup size, and such. It is still a damn lot smaller project than the PHP Documentation. Goba Derick Rethans wrote: > Hei! > > Sad that you have to leave, but understandable. You did a great job! > > One question though... Will you also be stopping answering mails to > webmaster@ ? > > regards, > Derick >
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Hei! Sad that you have to leave, but understandable. You did a great job! One question though... Will you also be stopping answering mails to webmaster@ ? regards, Derick
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Am Fr, den 24.02.2006 schrieb Gabor Hojtsy um 14:47: Goba, thanks for all the great and wonderful work you've done during the last years! /Georg -- Georg Richter, Senior Software Developer MySQL AB, www.mysql.com Are you MySQL certified? www.mysql.com/certification
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
||*()*|| Hi, Gabor. I'm not as good as others in writing english, what's why I almost never took part in editing actual contents, but I agree with almost every word said by other folks here, except for the cases when I have to include "my personal" mark before "respect". =) I don't mind if you want to exclude yourself from editors, but no matter how active you will be in this team further - you've already earned a honorable position in my personal list of good fellows. =) t --
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
> To be constructive, I propose Nuno for a new editor (if he agrees). He > has good overview necessary for this position and more than enough > skills. I think he has respect from most docteam members. Good candidate. He has a good view on phpdoc, phpweb, user notes, livedocs, etc. Let's gather candidates and/or vote on the already proposed ones. Goba
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Hi Goba, It was a shock to me to see you will leave us. I loved to work with you and I personally have to thank you for helping me, especially when I joined the project. You always had a sensible position, which I greatly admire. And I still have the hope to meet all you personally some day :) I have many difficulties in expressing my feelings in other language than Portuguese, but resuming, I just want to thank you for this years you worked with us to create the great PHP documentation. Good luck for your projects and with your girlfriend especially, Nuno P.S.: I was almost crying when writing this e-mail :) - Original Message - Hi, I have been pondering through this writeup in the last couple of weeks, and the recent OSCOM events [1] prompted me to be straight and honest, and step back from the leadership of the PHP Documentation and from the list on the documentation frontpage consequently. To be honest, I have not been active the last couple of months, only pariticipated in some directional discussions, and unfortunately I don't see a light in the future to be able to contribute more. Certainly I don't deserve the position to be named and listed as the PHP Documentation Editor anymore. There are quite a few more active people, who should get the credit they deserve. Being a seventh year university student, closer to my completion (hopefully next summer), I try to concentrate more on my studies. Last summer I got to know a great girl [2], who I admire, and we have been living happily in love since then (nearly nine months now), and look forward to keep this relationship indefinitely :) With some guys, we also manage to push content regularly into Weblabor.hu, our all-free (CC licensed, no ads) web development site for Hungarian developers. This year, we are preparing the Web Development Conference 2006 here in Hungary, which is the successor to our PHP Conferences (and yes, it does include content on subjects "competing" with PHP, and yes, it is free for all attendees as the PHP Conferences were before, so we expect around 500 attendees this year too). I also take a very small part in the Drupal CMS development, as many of you know, also coordinating the Hungarian translation of the interface, and the Drupal.hu website. Last, but not least I am also going to participate in musical performances again (remember the pics I posted last summer?), playing a complex character in a dramatic musical about the impact of wars on children, and how is it possible to overcome the great burdens of losing parents and all stability around you. Look at this list, and althogh I omitted some of my less interesting activities, it is quite obvious, that I am not going to be able to took part at phpdoc on the level the PHP Documentation would deserve. My plans are to keep being part of the PHP Website team, and being "active" there on the level I have been able to be "active" recently (ie. no developments for the php.net site soon from me, althogh it would need quite some work). As a website team member I would be really interested in seeing the light of the day for livedocs. It needs some momentum to be built around it, and I am hopeful, that someone will be able to do that. I am willing to be an "advisor" of the doc group further on, if it helps, so I can participate in shaping directions, in case there is any question I can help with. I cannot promise to keep an eye on the phpdoc discussions though. I hope that my reasons are understandable, and I am certain that we will be able to manage to execute some smooth process of handing the reposibilities and the credits over. It was a great pleasure to work with you, and shape the PHP Documentation into what it is today. [1] http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/the-doubtful-future-of-oscom.html [2] http://goba.hu/ Have a nice weekend, Gabor Hojtsy / Goba
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
We will miss you. You have absolute respect from me and from others for sure, you are a true leader. To be constructive, I propose Nuno for a new editor (if he agrees). He has good overview necessary for this position and more than enough skills. I think he has respect from most docteam members. Jakub Vrana
Re: [PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
> I hope that my reasons are understandable, and I am certain that we will > be able to manage to execute some smooth process of handing the > reposibilities and the credits over. It was a great pleasure to work > with you, and shape the PHP Documentation into what it is today. Well, Goba, let me be the first to say (publicly) that you will be missed. Personally, I have appreciated your leadership and guidance. It seems that as members of the documentation team evolve our personal lives, we've less and less time to devote to phpdoc. That is to say that your reasons are well understood. Thank you for your service. You've been a clear head when we needed it, and a pleasure to work with on all occasions. I'm glad you won't be disappearing from php.net, entirely. S
[PHP-DOC] Gabor resigns from the editor post
Hi, I have been pondering through this writeup in the last couple of weeks, and the recent OSCOM events [1] prompted me to be straight and honest, and step back from the leadership of the PHP Documentation and from the list on the documentation frontpage consequently. To be honest, I have not been active the last couple of months, only pariticipated in some directional discussions, and unfortunately I don't see a light in the future to be able to contribute more. Certainly I don't deserve the position to be named and listed as the PHP Documentation Editor anymore. There are quite a few more active people, who should get the credit they deserve. Being a seventh year university student, closer to my completion (hopefully next summer), I try to concentrate more on my studies. Last summer I got to know a great girl [2], who I admire, and we have been living happily in love since then (nearly nine months now), and look forward to keep this relationship indefinitely :) With some guys, we also manage to push content regularly into Weblabor.hu, our all-free (CC licensed, no ads) web development site for Hungarian developers. This year, we are preparing the Web Development Conference 2006 here in Hungary, which is the successor to our PHP Conferences (and yes, it does include content on subjects "competing" with PHP, and yes, it is free for all attendees as the PHP Conferences were before, so we expect around 500 attendees this year too). I also take a very small part in the Drupal CMS development, as many of you know, also coordinating the Hungarian translation of the interface, and the Drupal.hu website. Last, but not least I am also going to participate in musical performances again (remember the pics I posted last summer?), playing a complex character in a dramatic musical about the impact of wars on children, and how is it possible to overcome the great burdens of losing parents and all stability around you. Look at this list, and althogh I omitted some of my less interesting activities, it is quite obvious, that I am not going to be able to took part at phpdoc on the level the PHP Documentation would deserve. My plans are to keep being part of the PHP Website team, and being "active" there on the level I have been able to be "active" recently (ie. no developments for the php.net site soon from me, althogh it would need quite some work). As a website team member I would be really interested in seeing the light of the day for livedocs. It needs some momentum to be built around it, and I am hopeful, that someone will be able to do that. I am willing to be an "advisor" of the doc group further on, if it helps, so I can participate in shaping directions, in case there is any question I can help with. I cannot promise to keep an eye on the phpdoc discussions though. I hope that my reasons are understandable, and I am certain that we will be able to manage to execute some smooth process of handing the reposibilities and the credits over. It was a great pleasure to work with you, and shape the PHP Documentation into what it is today. [1] http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/the-doubtful-future-of-oscom.html [2] http://goba.hu/ Have a nice weekend, Gabor Hojtsy / Goba
