[pinhole-discussion] Who we all are...
Aren't we pinholers a diverse group of people! Some of us hobbyists, some of us professional photographers, yet all interested in the same medium. I have contributed to the list once or twice, but I guess I'd like to re-introduce myself: I'm 25 and live in Toronto. No formal training in photography, just a hobbyist for the last 10 years or so. Currently I'm back in University working on my second degree (Radiation Therapy this time). I got into pinhole photography because I thought it would be fun to make my own cameras. What can I say? I was right. __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] internal / international
- Original Message - From: ethereal art ethereal...@mindspring.com Since the Zero 2000 is made in Japan In the Hong Kong prefecture, to be more exact!! ;-) Guillermo
[pinhole-discussion] hi
Hi, my name is Susan. I'm 41 and have been subscribing to the list for awhile. I enjoy the list and all the valuable information exchanged. I was the administator/coordinator for the Krappy Kamera contest last year. I have been using pinhole cameras, toy cameras and all the krappy kameras available for the last 10 years. I live in NYC. All the best to everyone, Susan
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids
Love it! regards mickey a happy life is made up of many happy moments
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: new to this list
Hi, I guess I might as well get into the act. I am not new to this list, having been a member since November 18th, 1999 but this is the first time you are hearing from me. In the meantime, I have accumulated quite an archive of useful material from this group and quite the collection of pinhole photos that have been posted here over the years. I am 53 years old, live in Montréal, Québec, Canada, teach philosophy and have been back to photography, darkroom and all, for the past five years. I work with lenses in 35, 4.5x6, 6x6, 6x9, 4x5 and 8x10. I also collect vintage cameras and lenses from the 1930's to 1960's. I made my first pinhole over forty years ago for a science project in high school; the following year, we built an x-ray tube and since I was also the school photographer, I got to develop the 4x5 x-ray of my hand. I still have it, my hand that is. I just recently decided to get back to pinhole photography as a complement to a photo project I am working on. As a result, I just recently acquired some pinholes from a fellow member of this group. I am following with much interest the discussion on 4x5 pinholing since I want to use the pinholes on my 4x5 Crown Graphic and Kodak Empire 8x10. May the light be with you. Bogdan aa...@deadlettertype.com wrote: i'm aaron. 26. from north carolina, living in san francisco. schooled as a graphic designer. a more or less passive reader of list. not as technically minded as most here. been buiding both still and motion pinhole cameras off and on for almost ten years. also more recently into photography involving physical or chemical disruptions to the film's surface. which brings me to the make your own film question tell me more! ive made emulsions, but how wonderful to be able to craft it all! Hey Everybody, I'm kind of new to this list, so I was just wondering who everybody is on this list and what everybody does. I'm assuming that most of you are into pinhole photography if I'm correct. Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? Just stuff like that I guess I want to know. If you can add anything else that would be great. tah tah-jeremiah --- aaron cruse / dead letter type 2555 bryant street / san francisco / california / 94110 415.970.1090 ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ -- __ Bogdan Karasek Montréal, Québece-mail: bkara...@videotron.ca Canada Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence Ludwig Wittgenstein
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Hi. I am 47 years old. I have been doing photography for nearly 40 years. I had my first darkroom at age 8. I've had pinhole cameras for about 10 years. I got involved with this wonderful group when my daughter was doing a science project on pinhole for freshman highschool science. She made it to the state science fair and earned enough points to get an A in a stingy teacher's class. She is now in college and I am still here. Print Swaps in 1999 and 2001 were fun. The pinholeday project had fantastic results worldwide. My selfportrait for the 2001 swap is here: http://www.slonet.org/~rheather/pinself2001.html Richard Heather tricks...@aol.com wrote: Hey Everybody, I'm kind of new to this list, so I was just wondering who everybody is on this list and what everybody does. I'm assuming that most of you are into pinhole photography if I'm correct. Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? Just stuff like that I guess I want to know. If you can add anything else that would be great. tah tah-jeremiah ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Visions Home page
Thanks for the new home page, Gregg! Please visit: http://www.???/ Guy Peace on earth to goodwill men and women
[pinhole-discussion] internal / international
I think they mean internal reflection Since the Zero 2000 is made in Japan, maybe it IS an international reflection. Rosanne
[pinhole-discussion] Re: Zero Image 6x9
Hi, I've had this problem and I think I have the answer. First, make sure the tension springs are bent out enough to put tension on the spools. Second, make sure the film is snug across the back of the camera when you put the lid on. Thirdly, and I think most importantly, wind the film slowly between exposures. I didn't arrive at this very scientifically, but when I do the above it seems to be fine. One other thing. When it doesn't work, learn to see the beauty in edge fog! Dave
[pinhole-discussion] Re:Who we are
Hi, I'm Dave, 41 years old and I work as a cinematographer in Hollywood. I use a Zero Image 6x9, and a Lubitel 166 converted to zone plate. I started pinhole work earlier this year when given a Lochkamera cardboard 6x9 pinhole camera kit. My job uses pretty high tech equipment, so I really enjoy the purity of pinhole photography. Dave
[pinhole-discussion] Pintoids
Months ago, when the world was very different from what it is now ... I picked the brains of everyone on this list regarding the creation of pinhole cameras from Altoid containers. I'd like to thank everyone who answered my silly questions. I also want to let everyone know that I've posted some of the photos from a recent trip. Photos made with these Pintoids. http://www.merrillphoto.com/pintoidadventure.htm Again, thanks to all! -MM Peace. Marcy Merrill Photographer www.merrillphoto.com
[pinhole-discussion] The New Montreal photo show in NYC
I hope I'm not asking a question that's already been addressed. An announcement was made last night at the New York Annimation Festival's Canadian animation screening that some other Canadian exhibitions that were planned to take place in New York now have been postponed, not cancelled. I assume that this includes the show posted on this group a week or so ago, The New Montreal: Major Urban Projects in Old Montreal, to be held at the Financial Center. Can anyone confirm? Thanks, Sarah __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/
[pinhole-discussion] RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Zero Image 6x9
Hi, I have had this problem twice in 6 rolls. I think that if if pay close attention to the alignment during takeup then things are ok. This is not something I can just do quickly (or I get the problem you mentioned). Mark m...@interwalk.com http://www.interwalk.com/pinhole.htm -- Original Message -- Following the discussion of lens flare with the Zero Image 6x9 leads me to relay a problem I have with my new 6x9. Film wound through the camera does not wind tightly on the take-up spool. Film is so loose it sometimes binds and I cannot wind the last few frames. Needless to say, loose winding leaves film edges open to light leaks. Anyone else experience this problem? If so, have you found a solution? David pinhole-discussion-request@p at ??? wrote: Send Pinhole-Discussion mailing list submissions to pinhole-discussion@p at ??? To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/pinhole-discussion or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pinhole-discussion-request@p at ??? You can reach the person managing the list at pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Pinhole-Discussion digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lens Flare... ZeroImage 6x9? (dalf...@aol.com) 2. Who we are? (Guy Glorieux) 3. Re: Who we are? (Jeff Dilcher) 4. Re: Determining exposure beyond. (Bill Erickson) 5. Who we are? (lva) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: dalf...@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:03:06 EDT Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Lens Flare... ZeroImage 6x9? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? In a message dated 9/17/01 9:30:55 AM Central Daylight Time, r...@hiddenworld.net writes: I think they mean internal reflection. Does anyone know if the newer cameras are less susceptible to flare? I have a Zero Image Multi Format which allows for 6cmX9cm images and have exposed films in the 6cmX9cm mode, and never had any problems with flare .I purchased my camera in the early part of 2001 . Hope this may be of help . --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:57:57 -0400 From: Guy Glorieux guy.glori...@sympatico.ca To: Pinhole List pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Who we are? Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Hey, Gregg! If you are around and have some free time, what about building a space on Pinhole Visions for those who want to identify themselves more permanently? Just a thought... Guy Peace on earth to goodwill men and women P.S. For those who don't know me yet, check my exhibition Fragments... Dreams... on Pinhole Visions at http://www.???/exhibits/Glorieux/ ...-;) -:) P.P.S. We need all the -:)) 's we can get these days... --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:18:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Dilcher r...@hiddenworld.net To: Pinhole List pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Who we are? Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? I like that idea. I'll include an ascii art self portrait of myself... On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Guy Glorieux wrote: Hey, Gregg! If you are around and have some free time, what about building a space on Pinhole Visions for those who want to identify themselves more permanently? Just a thought... Guy Peace on earth to goodwill men and women P.S. For those who don't know me yet, check my exhibition Fragments... Dreams... on Pinhole Visions at http://www.???/exhibits/Glorieux/ ...-;) -:) P.P.S. We need all the -:)) 's we can get these days... ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Bill Erickson erick...@hickorytech.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Determining exposure beyond. Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:19:21 -0500 Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? I've had no experience with ilford HP%, and each BW film has it's own requirement. my general advice is expose longer than you think necessary and it'll probably be OK. The reciprocity failure you're trying to compensate for in fact buffers the overexposure error. - Original Message - From: Rune Tallaksen tall...@alfanett.no To: Pinhole-Discussion pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Determining exposure beyond. Hi list! Can anybody help me with how to determine exposure when correcting for resiprosity failure when the measured esposuretime exceeds that of the table from the filmvendor? For instance when using
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 4 x 5 questions
I think the BTZS brand dark clothes are the sort you want. there are ads in View camera magazine. - Original Message - From: Gordon J. Holtslander hol...@duke.usask.ca To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] 4 x 5 questions I did a little fiddling around with ground-glass with pinhole. A dark-cloth was a necessity. The one I have was too small to block all the light. I thought what was really needed was sort of a balaclava type hood. Something that fits over the camera back on one end and tightly around your face on the other end. Would have to make it out of some kind of opaque stretchy fabric. It would be sort of like a bellows that fits onto your head. It would be one look even more bizarre than one usually does when taking pinhole pictures. - Ever tried explaining to someone what you are trying to do with this funny shaped card board box covered with duct tape and computer printouts, when they have never heard of a pinhole camera. They seem to think the pinholes are elsewhere. Gord - Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology hol...@duke.usask.ca 112 Science Place http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsg University of Saskatchewan Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 - ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Re: ZeroImage 6x9
pinhole-discussion-request@p at ??? wrote: Send Pinhole-Discussion mailing list submissions to pinhole-discussion@p at ??? To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/pinhole-discussion or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pinhole-discussion-request@p at ??? You can reach the person managing the list at pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Pinhole-Discussion digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lens Flare... ZeroImage 6x9? (dalf...@aol.com) 2. Who we are? (Guy Glorieux) 3. Re: Who we are? (Jeff Dilcher) 4. Re: Determining exposure beyond. (Bill Erickson) 5. Who we are? (lva) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: dalf...@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:03:06 EDT Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Lens Flare... ZeroImage 6x9? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? In a message dated 9/17/01 9:30:55 AM Central Daylight Time, r...@hiddenworld.net writes: I think they mean internal reflection. Does anyone know if the newer cameras are less susceptible to flare? I have a Zero Image Multi Format which allows for 6cmX9cm images and have exposed films in the 6cmX9cm mode, and never had any problems with flare .I purchased my camera in the early part of 2001 . Hope this may be of help . --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:57:57 -0400 From: Guy Glorieux guy.glori...@sympatico.ca To: Pinhole List pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Who we are? Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Hey, Gregg! If you are around and have some free time, what about building a space on Pinhole Visions for those who want to identify themselves more permanently? Just a thought... Guy Peace on earth to goodwill men and women P.S. For those who don't know me yet, check my exhibition Fragments... Dreams... on Pinhole Visions at http://www.???/exhibits/Glorieux/ ...-;) -:) P.P.S. We need all the -:)) 's we can get these days... --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:18:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Dilcher r...@hiddenworld.net To: Pinhole List pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Who we are? Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? I like that idea. I'll include an ascii art self portrait of myself... On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Guy Glorieux wrote: Hey, Gregg! If you are around and have some free time, what about building a space on Pinhole Visions for those who want to identify themselves more permanently? Just a thought... Guy Peace on earth to goodwill men and women P.S. For those who don't know me yet, check my exhibition Fragments... Dreams... on Pinhole Visions at http://www.???/exhibits/Glorieux/ ...-;) -:) P.P.S. We need all the -:)) 's we can get these days... ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Bill Erickson erick...@hickorytech.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Determining exposure beyond. Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:19:21 -0500 Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? I've had no experience with ilford HP%, and each BW film has it's own requirement. my general advice is expose longer than you think necessary and it'll probably be OK. The reciprocity failure you're trying to compensate for in fact buffers the overexposure error. - Original Message - From: Rune Tallaksen tall...@alfanett.no To: Pinhole-Discussion pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Determining exposure beyond. Hi list! Can anybody help me with how to determine exposure when correcting for resiprosity failure when the measured esposuretime exceeds that of the table from the filmvendor? For instance when using Ilford HP5 Plus, the film data sheet gives the added time for resiprosity failure until initial measured 35 secs(corrected for pinhole f stop). How can I calculate the correct exposure time beyond this point? Tiral and error until now has not been satisfactory for me. Any help will be appreciated. Rune Norway __\/__ ./ ^ _ \. |\|(o)(o)|/| #--.OOOo--oo--oOOO.# # Rune Tallaksen # # # # #
[pinhole-discussion] slit camera
Does anyone know of an online source that explains what a slit camera is and shows some images made with one? The Pinhole Resource has a picture of the Cardozo Slit Camera but no references to anything online. Thanks. Myron
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In a message dated 9/16/01 6:20:18 PM, tricks...@aol.com writes: Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? I'm Jim K and live in Cherry Valley, NY, a very beautiful place in the northern Catskill mountains, right near Cooperstown. In the fall spring I teach photography at Hartwick College... am middle aged, haha (to quote leezy). I make pinhole cameras and give one to a teacher every week, the website is www.paintcancamera.com A new camera that you put the chemistry in and develop the pictures anywhere you happen to be is coming out this fall. All you need is a black changing bag and a few containers to work in the field or classroom. Am very close to solving all the difficulties of making bw prints without a darkroom, using a few simple tools, even in broad daylight! This will allow anyone to undertake a complete introductory course in bw photography without an enlarger or special room... will let you know as things progress. We all work hard and like to have fun while we're at it! Good luck. and thanks again to everyone for the great support in recent events...
[pinhole-discussion] black flocking paper
From: Howard Wells sandw...@earthlink.net ... I routinely put black flocked paper on the inside of all my homemade (and commercial) pinhole and zoneplate cameras which seems to cut down on stray light. Edmund Scientific sells it as do other DIY Telescope suppliers. My understanding is that Edmund Scientific is out of business or soon will be. Does anyone have a specifi URL for a camera grade :-) flocking paper? Myron
[pinhole-discussion] Re: Who we are?
aaron self portrait in front of st. francais in SF, pinhole polaroid land camera http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2001.php?cmd=maxstart=pic=the_self.jpg
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 4 x 5 questions
I did a little fiddling around with ground-glass with pinhole. A dark-cloth was a necessity. The one I have was too small to block all the light. I thought what was really needed was sort of a balaclava type hood. Something that fits over the camera back on one end and tightly around your face on the other end. Would have to make it out of some kind of opaque stretchy fabric. It would be sort of like a bellows that fits onto your head. It would be one look even more bizarre than one usually does when taking pinhole pictures. - Ever tried explaining to someone what you are trying to do with this funny shaped card board box covered with duct tape and computer printouts, when they have never heard of a pinhole camera. They seem to think the pinholes are elsewhere. Gord - Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology hol...@duke.usask.ca112 Science Place http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsgUniversity of Saskatchewan Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 -
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 4 x 5 questions
wow, nice ascii art indeed! :) since I've seen a few people ask about this and some people suggest drawing lines on the camera itself, I figured I'd take a picture of one of my cameras that I did that with. It helps to do what Jeff is describing when you actually have the lines drawn on the camera. You can get your eyes right down at the eye-level of the camera and follow each line out to where the edge of the image. http://www.rahji.com/images/composinglines.jpg This camera is made of black foamcore and the lines were drawn with one of those flourescent yellow gel pens that they sell at cash registers in stores. That patch in the middle is where the pinhole is. If you do this, don't forget to take into account the thickness of the camera wall .. in this case, the camera was made of .5 cm thick foamcore so the lines in the upper left of the picture, for example, don't actually touch since they're each started .5 cm in from the end of the camera. I hope this helps! Rob Top view looking down on camera. F line is the plane. B is area inside your bellows. P is pinhole, with lines extending in the space. Stick man is your beautiful model (I have to much time on my hands today). F / |\ / | \ / |\ / O | B}P \+/ |/ \ ^ | / \ / \ |/ \ \ F
[pinhole-discussion] Who we are?
Hey, Gregg! If you are around and have some free time, what about building a space on Pinhole Visions for those who want to identify themselves more permanently? Just a thought... Pictures of the members of the list would also be great. When I read a good post, I always wonder how the person looks like who's written the text. Greetings from Sweden Brahma
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Determining exposure beyond.....................
I've had no experience with ilford HP%, and each BW film has it's own requirement. my general advice is expose longer than you think necessary and it'll probably be OK. The reciprocity failure you're trying to compensate for in fact buffers the overexposure error. - Original Message - From: Rune Tallaksen tall...@alfanett.no To: Pinhole-Discussion pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Determining exposure beyond. Hi list! Can anybody help me with how to determine exposure when correcting for resiprosity failure when the measured esposuretime exceeds that of the table from the filmvendor? For instance when using Ilford HP5 Plus, the film data sheet gives the added time for resiprosity failure until initial measured 35 secs(corrected for pinhole f stop). How can I calculate the correct exposure time beyond this point? Tiral and error until now has not been satisfactory for me. Any help will be appreciated. Rune Norway __\/__ ./ ^ _ \. |\|(o)(o)|/| #--.OOOo--oo--oOOO.# # Rune Tallaksen # # # # # #---Oooo.--# .oooO ( ) ( ) )/ \( (_/ \_) ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 4 x 5 questions
- Original Message - From: Chris Harris cpharrisph...@hotmail.com First, I can't see the image without a lupe. This makes composing on the ground glass impossible. What f/stop is your zoneplate? if it were f/90 or f/64 (better) you shouldn't have problems composing your image, you must use a dark cloth though. You mentioned fresnel, that would also help, to see its effect before you buy an expensive one, buy one of those plastics reading fresnel lens you can buy at bus.depot, office depot, etc, they are just few bucks each. cut it to fit the back of your ground glass. I should mention that I'm used to pinhole cameras without viewfinders, but I thought I'd have the luxury of seeing an image on the 4 x 5 ground glass. If you want to see an image on the GG with a pinhole lens, have two pinholes, actually, 1 pinhole and one nailhole, use the latter to compose and the pinhole to make the exposure. The second problem is that the camera seems to be in focus through a wide range of focal lengths. I can't see any difference between the focus quality at 150mm (which the zone plate is designed for) and, say, 170mm. The magnification changes, but the focus stays the same. I can set the focus at infinity by measuring the distance from the film plane to the zone plate. However, the fine adjustments of focusing with tilts and swings seem at this point impossible. My suggestion is that you find the actual focal length of your zoneplate once and then use that distance everytime after. If you want to focus a zoneplate, is almost a must to do it viewing the aerial image and not the GG. BTW, you'll probably be amazed at how nice the aerial image projected by a zoneplate looks. Guillermo
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 4 x 5 questions
- Original Message - From: Jeff Dilcher r...@hiddenworld.net Stick man is your beautiful model (I have to much time on my hands today). F / |\ / | \ / |\ / O | B}P \+/ |/ \ ^ | / \ / \ |/ \ \ F One of the best ASCII art I ever seen! undoubtedly has Cubism influence. :-) Guillermo
[pinhole-discussion] hOw to make your own Flim
there are a few guys here in california, called the 'silt collective,' who make their own film stocks, and from natural and non-toxic souces. i'm not sure how they learned to do this, or how we could find out from them. one of the guys was teaching at the art institute here in SF last year, but i think he has left now. another, jeff warren, is living in L.A. somewhere... --- aaron cruse / dead letter type 2555 bryant street / san francisco / california / 94110 415.970.1090
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My name is Andres, I am 22 years old, i am from Argentina and i have been doing pinholes photography since last week. I have alrready done two 35mm pinhole cameras and they work! I just can ´t belive it!. I study industrial design in the University of Buenos Aires, and I found great that pihnole photography alows you to make, and design your own cameras its really fun, and is more than awson when you find that your camera works and by the way, i am desinging a paper made pinhole camera for a 35mm film. Like an origami well anyway thats still just an idea. hope that you can uderstand my english Andres Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! http://www.eboom.com/free/ - Original Message - From: tricks...@aol.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hey Everybody, I'm kind of new to this list, so I was just wondering who everybody is on this list and what everybody does. I'm assuming that most of you are into pinhole photography if I'm correct. Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? Just stuff like that I guess I want to know. If you can add anything else that would be great. tah tah-jeremiah ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Determining exposure beyond.....................
- Original Message - From: Rune Tallaksen tall...@alfanett.no Can anybody help me with how to determine exposure when correcting for resiprosity failure when the measured esposuretime exceeds that of the table from the filmvendor? For instance when using Ilford HP5 Plus, the film data sheet gives the added time for resiprosity failure until initial measured 35 secs(corrected for pinhole f stop). How can I calculate the correct exposure time beyond this point? Tiral and error until now has not been satisfactory for me. One way to do it is by extrapolating the curve Ilford is giving you. You can do that mathematically or graphically. I usually do it graphically. Take the Ilford curve and reproduce it on a piece of paper, extend the X or horizontal axis to read the maximum uncorrected time you want and then extend the curve with pencil trying to follow the same tendency, then is just a matter of extending the Y axis and graduating both axis. I just did that very quickly and the resulting extended curve gives me the following values, for 60, 90 and 120 secs of uncorrected exposure: 60 secs uncorrected = 475 secs corrected 90 secs = 925 secs 120 secs = 1900 secs Once you have the extrapolated curve, use it and if you get consistently somewhat overexposed film, that means the curve was done a bit to steep. If film is underexposed consistently then the curve needs to be re-done a little more steeper. One thing for sure, extrapolating the curve would give you better reciprocity corrections than trial and error. Hope it helps. Guillermo
[pinhole-discussion] Re: new to this list
i'm aaron. 26. from north carolina, living in san francisco. schooled as a graphic designer. a more or less passive reader of list. not as technically minded as most here. been buiding both still and motion pinhole cameras off and on for almost ten years. also more recently into photography involving physical or chemical disruptions to the film's surface (also quite lensless!). which brings me to the make your own film question tell me more! ive made emulsions, but how wonderful to be able to craft it all! Hey Everybody, I'm kind of new to this list, so I was just wondering who everybody is on this list and what everybody does. I'm assuming that most of you are into pinhole photography if I'm correct. Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? Just stuff like that I guess I want to know. If you can add anything else that would be great. tah tah-jeremiah --- aaron cruse / dead letter type 2555 bryant street / san francisco / california / 94110 415.970.1090
[pinhole-discussion] 4 x 5 questions
I recently bought a 4 x 5 Tachihara camera and fitted it with a zone plate. I've been using zone plates on hand built cameras for several years. Large format photography is new to me. So far I've been fiddling with the camera and reading a considerable amount of literature on how to use it (for example, Steve Simon's book). I have quickly encountered two troubling aspects of the using the camera. First, I can't see the image without a lupe. This makes composing on the ground glass impossible. The ground glass is whatever ships as standard equipment with the camera. Must I 1) upgrade the ground glass to a Fresnel (will this solve the problem?), 2) buy and use a comparable real lens to compose (a very expensive choice), 3) check my composition with Polaroids (an expensive alternative)? I should mention that I'm used to pinhole cameras without viewfinders, but I thought I'd have the luxury of seeing an image on the 4 x 5 ground glass. The second problem is that the camera seems to be in focus through a wide range of focal lengths. I can't see any difference between the focus quality at 150mm (which the zone plate is designed for) and, say, 170mm. The magnification changes, but the focus stays the same. I can set the focus at infinity by measuring the distance from the film plane to the zone plate. However, the fine adjustments of focusing with tilts and swings seem at this point impossible. I'd appreciate your help. Chris _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
[pinhole-discussion] Re: new to this list
i'm aaron. 26. from north carolina, living in san francisco. schooled as a graphic designer. a more or less passive reader of list. not as technically minded as most here. been buiding both still and motion pinhole cameras off and on for almost ten years. also more recently into photography involving physical or chemical disruptions to the film's surface. which brings me to the make your own film question tell me more! ive made emulsions, but how wonderful to be able to craft it all! Hey Everybody, I'm kind of new to this list, so I was just wondering who everybody is on this list and what everybody does. I'm assuming that most of you are into pinhole photography if I'm correct. Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? Just stuff like that I guess I want to know. If you can add anything else that would be great. tah tah-jeremiah --- aaron cruse / dead letter type 2555 bryant street / san francisco / california / 94110 415.970.1090
[pinhole-discussion] Determining exposure beyond.....................
Hi list! Can anybody help me with how to determine exposure when correcting for resiprosity failure when the measured esposuretime exceeds that of the table from the filmvendor? For instance when using Ilford HP5 Plus, the film data sheet gives the added time for resiprosity failure until initial measured 35 secs(corrected for pinhole f stop). How can I calculate the correct exposure time beyond this point? Tiral and error until now has not been satisfactory for me. Any help will be appreciated. Rune Norway __\/__ ./ ^ _ \. |\|(o)(o)|/| #--.OOOo--oo--oOOO.# # Rune Tallaksen # # # # # #---Oooo.--# .oooO ( ) ( ) )/ \( (_/ \_)
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Lens Flare... ZeroImage 6x9?
I've now used one of the last Zero Image cameras for about a month shot 8-10 rolls: no flare at all no light leaks, even under direct sun shots (that is, into low afternoon sun at less than 30 degrees to the camera)... Pat From: Jeff Dilcher r...@hiddenworld.net Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:02:15 -0400 (EDT) To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Lens Flare... ZeroImage 6x9? Hello, I have been the happy owner of a ZeroImage 2000 camera, and having been mulling the possibility of buying one of the new 6x9 format versions. My older camera seemed very susceptible to lens flare. The web page say: Matt black paints is applied at the inner part of the camera to prevent light leak. The brass shim is stained black to avoid international reflection and lens flare. I think they mean internal reflection. Does anyone know if the newer cameras are less susceptible to flare? ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Lens Flare... ZeroImage 6x9?
Hello, I have been the happy owner of a ZeroImage 2000 camera, and having been mulling the possibility of buying one of the new 6x9 format versions. My older camera seemed very susceptible to lens flare. The web page say: Matt black paints is applied at the inner part of the camera to prevent light leak. The brass shim is stained black to avoid international reflection and lens flare. I think they mean internal reflection. Does anyone know if the newer cameras are less susceptible to flare?
Re: [pinhole-discussion] GORDY EMERY geme...@hotmail.com
--- Gordy Emery geme...@hotmail.com wrote: I am age 65, and would like to get started. First I would like to buy an inexpencive camera so I can see how I like it. Actually, the quickest way to get started is just to make your own camera. Fortunately, with pinhole photography, this is commonplace. The Pinhole FAQ can be found at http://members.home.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Articles/PinholeArticles.htm where you can find everything you'll need to get started. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://members.home.net/hmpi/ __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] GORDY EMERY geme...@hotmail.com
- Original Message - From: Gordy Emery geme...@hotmail.com I am age 65, and would like to get started. First I would like to buy an inexpencive camera so I can see how I like it. I am a photography teacher for M.A.T.C., Madison,Wisconsin,Reedsburg. I am a guide at: www.shsw.wisc.edu/sites/bennett as well as: www.circusworldmuseum.com Would like to hear from members on how I should get started. Gordy, if you have a view camera, that is an easy way to get started, just mount a pinhole on a lens board and presto, you have a pinhole camera. You can shoot either film or paper with any film holder. TLRs (with removable lens) and medium format SLRs, can also be used as pinhole cameras by removing the lens and installing a pinhole in its place. A 35mm SLR can also be used in the same fashion. Having said that, most of us have started (and still do) shooting BW paper inside all sort of containers, namely: Quaker cereal, card board boxes, paint cans, coca cola cans, etc. Here is some controversial suggestion: Pinhole is a lot about trial and error for many reasons, one thing for which I like to avoid as much as I can the almost fortuitous nature is exposure, the way to achieve it is by knowing the diameter of the pinhole, which in turn allow you to find the f/stop of your set up. http://members.home.com/penate/pinhole.html has a link to an article explaining how to measure diameters using a scanner. Guillermo
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Hi Jeremiah I am a 59 year old Swiss engaged in pinhole photography for 5 years now. I build my favourite camera using a round tin (13cm tall and 10 cm in diameter) with the hole (0.4 mm) in the round part. For my picture taking excursions I load 16 tins of the same kind with b/w multigrade paper, which covers most of the round inside of the tin. Obviously I leave a slot (2 cm) open in order not to obstruct the hole. I have experimented with Ilfochrome colour paper and plenty of filters, but I did not like the results, even though - finally - I came quite close to the original colours in my pictures. In addition I have used normal cameras with a pinhole (approx. 0.3 mm) in place of the normal lenses. I also built and used a cardboard camera to use with b/w professional 120 roll film. Yet I always came back to my normal tin, because handling and processing is easy and the images I produce are sufficiently different from normal photos. Pinhole photography is fun. Once you start with your own experiments, you are not likely to get bored with it for a long long time. Cheers Markus -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]Im Auftrag von tricks...@aol.com Gesendet: Montag, 17. September 2001 01:19 An: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Betreff: [pinhole-discussion] Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hey Everybody, I'm kind of new to this list, so I was just wondering who everybody is on this list and what everybody does. I'm assuming that most of you are into pinhole photography if I'm correct. Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? Just stuff like that I guess I want to know. If you can add anything else that would be great. tah tah-jeremiah ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
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In a message dated 9/16/01 6:20:18 PM, tricks...@aol.com writes: Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? I teach Photography and Photoshop in a very large, local Jr. College on Long Island, NY. (Nassau Community College). Included in my Advanced Black and White Darkroom Class, I do a segment on Pinhole Photography. I live near my school and I am a Grandmother...hahaha! TRUE! I have been involved in Pinhole Photography for about 18 yearsphotography for about 22 years. Before that, I was a Fashion Designer and I have Masters Degrees in both Photography and Sculpture. Good Luck in your quest and keep coming back. Best, leezy
[pinhole-discussion] GORDY EMERY geme...@hotmail.com
I am age 65, and would like to get started. First I would like to buy an inexpencive camera so I can see how I like it. I am a photography teacher for M.A.T.C., Madison,Wisconsin,Reedsburg. I am a guide at: www.shsw.wisc.edu/sites/bennett as well as: www.circusworldmuseum.com Would like to hear from members on how I should get started. Gordy Emery geme...@hotmail.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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I am 66, bought my first camera in 1958, my first year in medical school. I've been a devoted pinholer and self conscious follower of Eric Renner for about 5 years now. I propose two rules for you- the first is try it, and the second is have fun. - Original Message - From: tricks...@aol.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hey Everybody, I'm kind of new to this list, so I was just wondering who everybody is on this list and what everybody does. I'm assuming that most of you are into pinhole photography if I'm correct. Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? Just stuff like that I guess I want to know. If you can add anything else that would be great. tah tah-jeremiah ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: [pinhole-discussion]
- Original Message - From: tricks...@aol.com I'm kind of new to this list, so I was just wondering who everybody is on this list and what everybody does. I'm assuming that most of you are into pinhole photography if I'm correct. Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? Just stuff like that I guess I want to know. If you can add anything else that would be great. tah tah-jeremiah Let me guess Jeremiah (hope you don't mind the capital J :-), you must be under 20 and I still have sweetpants I bought in 1979!. You probably are in college and I went to University just 2 years after the introduction of the first scientific pocket calculator. You may be thinking in studying photography and that never crossed my mind. You probably did some pinhole in high school and now have become more interested, you have come to the right place. Stick around, ask questions, share what you know and please share your images with us. Guillermo
