Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea

2003-03-13 Thread Guillermo
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From: michael_georg...@trendmicro.com
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:12 PM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea


Philip Willarney, I salute your brilliantly nutty idea! (And am not
surprised Ms. Merrill, our associate in wierdness, came out to
comment!).  Now, given that an airgun bb has a diameter of .175,
we'll need Guillermo to tell us how far apart the inner sides of the
box need to be.

Without taking my trusty slide ruler out to make the calculation, I can tell
you it would need to be like the mother of all pinhole cameras (or not).

Guillermo




[pinhole-discussion] Re: weird idea for a pinhole camera

2003-03-13 Thread ColdMarblePhoto
 Philip willarney pwillar...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Stand away from the box, and fire a bb gun through
 the middle of one of the sides.  If the board is thin
 enough, the bb should go through the box, through
 the first film, through the second film, and out
 again, causing 2 pinholes to be formed and
 simultaneously taking a picture in both directions at
 the same time!

Strange enough to get me thinking about it.

The typical BB is approximately 4.5 mm in diameter. In passing through
cardboard it may not punch a perfectly clear hole, with the ragged edges of
the cardboard collapsing back towards the center. A more circular hole may
be possible if a lead pellet with a flat nose is used, though there may be
some deformation of the pellet after passing through the first
cardboard/film layer. The idea is just crazy enough to warrant some testing
and sounds like a fine excuse to combine two hobbies.

John Bolgiano

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[pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea

2003-03-13 Thread Michael_Georgoff
Philip Willarney, I salute your brilliantly nutty idea! (And am not surprised 
Ms. Merrill, our associate in wierdness, came out to comment!).  Now, given 
that an airgun bb has a diameter of .175, we'll need Guillermo to tell us how 
far apart the inner sides of the box need to be.

Michael Georgoff
San Jose, CA



[pinhole-discussion] Agfa Multicontrast Premium ASA

2003-03-13 Thread Marcelo Mammana
Hi,
Here is my problem:
I use Agfa Multicontrast Premium, in 2 different
pinhole cameras (one with 95mm focal lenght, f/290),
and the second with 25mm focal lenght, f/155) and
using the same light-meter and the same correction
factors for reciprocity (charts for exposure from
Mr.Pinhole Calculators, and factors for reciprocity,
from G.Penate's and Penultimate's websites). 
The manufacturers chart, for when using the paper
under the enlarger light, says that the paper has an
ASA of 400p (p meaning paper?) when is used without
filters, ASA160p when using contrast filters from 00
to 3.5, and ASA80p, when using with filters from 4 up.
Now, when I use the first camera, I get the best
exposures when calculate them as if the paper is
ASA64, but this is variable depending on the day
(always measuring something close to a medium gray).
For the second camera (a plastic 35mm film canister),
best ASA is 125.
In many Internet sources I've found that some people
uses ASA 6 for paper and a very simple chart for
reciprocity (1'', 10'' and 100'', corrected opening up
1,2 or 3 stops), but this definitely makes grossy
underexposed photos in my cameras.
So, 
1-what's the ASA of a paper?
2-Can, the same paper behave different just because
the focal lenght differs (speaking about ASA, not
exposure. Exposure will be compensated with the
different aperture)?
3-Is there any female hormones in the manufacturing of
the paper, so they change some days during the month?
(no answers expected for question 3)

Thanks for your help
Marcelo 

Marcelo Mammana

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] weird idea for a pinhole camera

2003-03-13 Thread D. Hill
In the revised edition of Renner's Pinhole (I can't
remember where and too lazy to look) someone did what
you are attempting as a self-portrait - Very Cool.  I
believe it was a much more powerful projectile though.

Don


--- Philip willarney pwillar...@yahoo.com wrote:
 pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 
 The martial mood of the country led by some
 strange path to the following thought:
 
 Take a light tight cardboard box made of fairly
 thin cardboard: in the dark, securely tape film to
 two
 inner facing sides, and seal box.
 
 Take box outside, set it somewhere with a weight
 on top of it (a brick or rock).
 
 Stand away from the box, and fire a bb gun through
 the middle of one of the sides.  If the board is
 thin
 enough, the bb should go through the box, through
 the first film, through the second film, and out
 again, causing 2 pinholes to be formed and
 simultaneously taking a picture in both directions
 at
 the same time!
 
 After a suitable exposure time, drop a slightly
 larger box on top of the first box to end the
 exposure.
 
 Has anyone done anything like this?  Anyone want to
 try it and let me know how it works out?  I haven't
 had a bb gun for, oh, 20 years, so I don't have the
 technology available...
 
 pw
 
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