Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-19 Thread Philip willarney
--- Marcy Merrill  wrote:
> Philip: But I don't HAVE two weeks! Maybe if I
> inject the mold with a
> hormone... or a  or a steroid, or something?

Well, I suppose you could be all old fashioned and mix
a sensitized silver nitrate solution into the agar
agar, take your pix and turn it out of the can to
develop & print through (think light sensitive knox
blox, maybe? but will the gelatin/agar agar disolve in
the developer?)

-- pw



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Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-19 Thread Randy s

Marcy,

No hole in the center with this one.

Honestly the best circle cutter I've ever used
http://www.buttonsonline.com/cutter.html


Randy
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-18 Thread Chuck Flagg
Hi Marcy,
I do "brag Buttons" for school groups with my camera club.  Badge-a-minit
company in Illinois has circle cutters that cut 1.25", 2.25",and 3" I think
those are right. Web search for Badge-a-minit[I looked it
up-->http://www.badgeaminit.com/cutacircles.html ]
These would work well in the dark.  They have a stationary base and the center
spinning cutter.
Hope this helps.
Chuck Flagg



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Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-18 Thread Marcy Merrill
John: Oh MAN! WHY did you have to bring those to my attention? I hadn't seen
them before. Well, guess there goes another ten minutes of my life. -MM

Marcy Merrill
Photographer
www.merrillphoto.com

- Original Message -
From: "John Yeo" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles


> So who's going to be the first one to make a camera out of the altoid
strips
> cans?
>
> John
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marcy Merrill" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:19 AM
> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles
>
>
> > Here's a question for you buncha geniuses.
> > With my deadline being WWPD, I have gotten off my butt and made those
> > Pintoid Sours pinhole cameras I've been thinking about. After a grueling
> 10
> > minutes, they were completed. I want to pick some brains on how I might
> cut
> > round pieces of film? I'm using 8x10 sheets. A scalpel around a tin
didn't
> > work - especially in a completely dark darkroom. Here's a page where
I've
> > posted some photos of what I'm trying to do and the results I've
received
> > thus far. www.merrillphoto.com/pintoidsours.htm
> > I did all of this stuff yesterday. So far, cutting around the tin with
> > scissors has worked, but it isn't perfect. Any ideas would be
appreciated!
> > Thanks! -MM
> >
> >
> > Marcy Merrill
> > www.JunkStoreCameras.com





Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-18 Thread Marcy Merrill
Philip: But I don't HAVE two weeks! Maybe if I inject the mold with a
hormone... or a  or a steroid, or something? Nah. I'm going to try that
circle cutter. I called Michael's and they have it in stock. Can't make it
up there for a couple of days though. Guess we'll all have to wait in
suspense. Love, MM

Marcy Merrill
Photographer
www.merrillphoto.com

> How about this:
>
> * Pour agar agar in the base of the can/camera, allow
> to cool/solidify.
> * Innoculate with a mold or bacteria that dislikes
> light.
> * expose for 2 weeks (or so).
> You might need to use a mirror & pinhole arrangement
> to avoid gravity sag in the agar medium.  I'm not sure
> how you'd fix the image...
>
> (^: (?)
>
> -- pw
>





Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-18 Thread John Yeo
So who's going to be the first one to make a camera out of the altoid strips
cans?

John


- Original Message -
From: "Marcy Merrill" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:19 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles


> Here's a question for you buncha geniuses.
> With my deadline being WWPD, I have gotten off my butt and made those
> Pintoid Sours pinhole cameras I've been thinking about. After a grueling
10
> minutes, they were completed. I want to pick some brains on how I might
cut
> round pieces of film? I'm using 8x10 sheets. A scalpel around a tin didn't
> work - especially in a completely dark darkroom. Here's a page where I've
> posted some photos of what I'm trying to do and the results I've received
> thus far. www.merrillphoto.com/pintoidsours.htm
> I did all of this stuff yesterday. So far, cutting around the tin with
> scissors has worked, but it isn't perfect. Any ideas would be appreciated!
> Thanks! -MM
>
>
> Marcy Merrill
> www.JunkStoreCameras.com
>
>
>
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-18 Thread Rauch, Shelley
Marcy,

Couldn't you trace the interior onto paper, cut it out, then trace it onto a 
piece of thick cardboard, and cut *it* out... then, perhaps, you could use the 
scalpel to cut the film around the cardboard.  I don't know if this would give 
you a better fit than trying to go around the outside of the tin or not. 

Also, as I am new to the world of pin-ography what are the exposure times 
like using film?  I have some extra sheets of ortho I think I may give a whirl 
this weekend.

Love the cameras!  

Shelley


--
I did all of this stuff yesterday. So far, cutting around the tin with
scissors has worked, but it isn't perfect. Any ideas would be appreciated!
Thanks! -MM


Marcy Merrill
www.JunkStoreCameras.com



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Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-18 Thread Philip willarney
Another low tech solution might be to take a sheet of
aluminum or steel larger than your film and cut a
circle out the size you want your film.  Then lay the
parts down: 

circle (aluminum)
film
outside of circle (aluminum)
table/firm surface

and press down firmly (you might have to tap around
the edge of the circle with a hammer)

This depends on being able to cut a clean, round hole;
the edges of the hole act as a cutter (I've done this
on a small scale with paper; films a bit tougher, but
I think it would work).


--- Marcy Merrill  wrote:
> I'm getting some great answers from everyone and I
> appreciate it! Something
> I found on the net is a Fiskar's circle cutter. They
> claim it uses rubber
> gripper feet, so "no pinholes" in your circle. Costs
> about $14. I think I'll
> try it.
> ( Marvy - now, there's a name)
> -MM
> 
> Marcy Merrill
> Photographer
> www.merrillphoto.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "Traci Bunkers" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles
> 
> 
> > Marcy,
> > Have you looked at the hole punches in
> craft/hpbby/scrapbook stores? You
> can
> > get hole punches of any size imaginable. Marvy
> Uchida makes them--they are
> > called "craft punches". here's their website.
> Stores like Michaels & Hobby
> > Lobby carry them, but might not have the size you
> want. I ordered some
> > directly from Marvy.
> >
> > http://www.uchida.com/what/art/pc.htm
> > --
> > Traci Bunkers
> > Bonkers Handmade Originals
> > http://www.bonkersfiber.com
> 
> 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-18 Thread Philip willarney

> - Original Message -
> From: "Marcy Merrill" 
> 
> 
> > Here's a question for you buncha geniuses.
> > With my deadline being WWPD, I have gotten off my
> butt and made those
> > Pintoid Sours pinhole cameras I've been thinking
> about. After a grueling
> 10> > minutes, they were completed. I want to pick
some
> brains on how I might
> cut
> > round pieces of film? 



How about this:

* Pour agar agar in the base of the can/camera, allow
to cool/solidify.
* Innoculate with a mold or bacteria that dislikes
light.
* expose for 2 weeks (or so).
You might need to use a mirror & pinhole arrangement
to avoid gravity sag in the agar medium.  I'm not sure
how you'd fix the image...

(^: (?)

-- pw


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-17 Thread Marcy Merrill
I'm getting some great answers from everyone and I appreciate it! Something
I found on the net is a Fiskar's circle cutter. They claim it uses rubber
gripper feet, so "no pinholes" in your circle. Costs about $14. I think I'll
try it.
( Marvy - now, there's a name)
-MM

Marcy Merrill
Photographer
www.merrillphoto.com
- Original Message -
From: "Traci Bunkers" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles


> Marcy,
> Have you looked at the hole punches in craft/hpbby/scrapbook stores? You
can
> get hole punches of any size imaginable. Marvy Uchida makes them--they are
> called "craft punches". here's their website. Stores like Michaels & Hobby
> Lobby carry them, but might not have the size you want. I ordered some
> directly from Marvy.
>
> http://www.uchida.com/what/art/pc.htm
> --
> Traci Bunkers
> Bonkers Handmade Originals
> http://www.bonkersfiber.com





Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-17 Thread Traci Bunkers
Marcy,
Have you looked at the hole punches in craft/hpbby/scrapbook stores? You can
get hole punches of any size imaginable. Marvy Uchida makes them--they are
called "craft punches". here's their website. Stores like Michaels & Hobby
Lobby carry them, but might not have the size you want. I ordered some
directly from Marvy.

http://www.uchida.com/what/art/pc.htm
-- 
Traci Bunkers
Bonkers Handmade Originals
http://www.bonkersfiber.com


> From: "Marcy Merrill" 
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:41:25 -0700
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles
> 
> Thom & Brian: Thanks for your replies. I just checked the Logan matcutter
> and the smallest hole it can make is 4". I'll need a smaller hole. Gotta
> think more about the die cutter thing.




RE: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-17 Thread Dan Gerber
Have you tried looking at a craft store? I'm wondering if there are round
dies for scrapbooking or cutting fabric or something that might work. I
don't know if anything like this exists, just throwing a suggestion out.

-Dan

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- Original Message -
From: "Marcy Merrill" 


> Here's a question for you buncha geniuses.
> With my deadline being WWPD, I have gotten off my butt and made those
> Pintoid Sours pinhole cameras I've been thinking about. After a grueling
10
> minutes, they were completed. I want to pick some brains on how I might
cut
> round pieces of film? I'm using 8x10 sheets. A scalpel around a tin didn't
> work - especially in a completely dark darkroom. Here's a page where I've
> posted some photos of what I'm trying to do and the results I've received
> thus far. www.merrillphoto.com/pintoidsours.htm
> I did all of this stuff yesterday. So far, cutting around the tin with
> scissors has worked, but it isn't perfect. Any ideas would be appreciated!
> Thanks! -MM

The following doesn't answer your question, but here is anyway:

An easier method to get round images "in camera" would be to get a square or
rectangle footprinted box (like altoids, for instance) and cut a mask in
brass or matt board with a circle in the middle.  You then need to cut
rectangula pieces of film, which is easier than cutting circles.  The film
goes first and then the mask.

Guillermo



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Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-17 Thread Guillermo
- Original Message -
From: "Marcy Merrill" 


> Here's a question for you buncha geniuses.
> With my deadline being WWPD, I have gotten off my butt and made those
> Pintoid Sours pinhole cameras I've been thinking about. After a grueling
10
> minutes, they were completed. I want to pick some brains on how I might
cut
> round pieces of film? I'm using 8x10 sheets. A scalpel around a tin didn't
> work - especially in a completely dark darkroom. Here's a page where I've
> posted some photos of what I'm trying to do and the results I've received
> thus far. www.merrillphoto.com/pintoidsours.htm
> I did all of this stuff yesterday. So far, cutting around the tin with
> scissors has worked, but it isn't perfect. Any ideas would be appreciated!
> Thanks! -MM

The following doesn't answer your question, but here is anyway:

An easier method to get round images "in camera" would be to get a square or
rectangle footprinted box (like altoids, for instance) and cut a mask in
brass or matt board with a circle in the middle.  You then need to cut
rectangula pieces of film, which is easier than cutting circles.  The film
goes first and then the mask.

Guillermo





Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-17 Thread Marcy Merrill
Thom & Brian: Thanks for your replies. I just checked the Logan matcutter
and the smallest hole it can make is 4". I'll need a smaller hole. Gotta
think more about the die cutter thing. If I come up with anything, I'll
post. Thanks again! -MM
PS: If anyone in western WA wants to get together for World Pinhole Day,
we're trying for the Tacoma Museum of Glass at 1:00.

Marcy Merrill
Photographer
www.merrillphoto.com




Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-17 Thread Thom Mitchell
I know Logan, the matcutter manufacturer, makes an attachment that lets you
cut circular or oval mat openings. It would probably work very well for film
and you would already have what you need to help frame your gallery ready
pinhole art. Good luck. Thom
- Original Message -
From: "Marcy Merrill" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 14:19
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles


> Here's a question for you buncha geniuses.
> With my deadline being WWPD, I have gotten off my butt and made those
> Pintoid Sours pinhole cameras I've been thinking about. After a grueling
10
> minutes, they were completed. I want to pick some brains on how I might
cut
> round pieces of film? I'm using 8x10 sheets. A scalpel around a tin didn't
> work - especially in a completely dark darkroom. Here's a page where I've
> posted some photos of what I'm trying to do and the results I've received
> thus far. www.merrillphoto.com/pintoidsours.htm
> I did all of this stuff yesterday. So far, cutting around the tin with
> scissors has worked, but it isn't perfect. Any ideas would be appreciated!
> Thanks! -MM
>
>
> Marcy Merrill
> www.JunkStoreCameras.com
>
>
>
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-17 Thread Kelcannj
In a message dated 4/17/03 01:29:01 PM Central Daylight Time, 
ma...@merrillphoto.com writes:


> www.merrillphoto.com/pintoidsours.htm

marcy,
  
   I suppose you could try attaching a blade or on one of those circle 
drawing compass things and setting it to the right length, but then I guess 
you'd get that dot in the center.??  just a thought..

kelseyj


Re: [pinhole-discussion] going in circles

2003-04-17 Thread Brian Reynolds
Marcy Merrill wrote:
> I want to pick some brains on how I might cut round pieces of film?
> I'm using 8x10 sheets. A scalpel around a tin didn't work -
> especially in a completely dark darkroom.

Why not make a die cutter?  Take a thin sheet of brass (from the hobby
store, especially the model railroad section) and cut the length to
the circumference of your film disk (c = 2*pi*r = dia*pi) with maybe a
little extra.  Roll the brass into a cylinder and solder the ends
together.  You'll probably need a soldering iron that is more powerful
than the small electronics ones.  Use a file to sharpen one end of the
brass cylinder and fasten the other end to a wood block.

To use this put the sheet of film on a cutting matt, place the die
cutter on top and press all around the edges (or maybe hit it with a
hammer).

I haven't tried this, but it should work.

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