Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Member--introduction
Pinhole's fun -- it can make you slow down and think about things, and it can at the same time loosen you up a lot and see what happens. Have at it, eh? -- pw --- Melissa absolutelynotdigi...@excite.com wrote: ..snip.. much a newbie when it comes to pinhole work, having just made my first camera last weekend. I am very excited about the creative possibilities it has to offer! I can't wait to learn more. And I'm so happy I found this list! Thank you :-) Mel ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Member--introduction
Melissa wrote: Hi everyone! Just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Mel and I have been involved in photography since i was very young, stealing my dad's old SLR to take pictures of everything. I am constanly looking for new creative outlets in the photographic field, which brought me to pinhole photography. I am very much a newbie when it comes to pinhole work, having just made my first camera last weekend. I am very excited about the creative possibilities it has to offer! I can't wait to learn more. And I'm so happy I found this list! Thank you :-) Mel Welcome to the club, taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] new member
Another suggestion. Find an old Brownie box camera that takes 120 film and that has time exposure capability. They should be $5.00 or so. It is easy to take the lens out and put in a pinhole. Then you will have 6x9 cm images instead of 35mm and can still get commercial processing. I mostly do paper negatives with home made cameras and do the processing in my darkroom. I just made a stereo pinhole camera out of a cookie tin. It was a great excuse to by a box of chocolate cookies. Thanks for the input on transparency film...I have used Velvia 120 in the past with a good light meter and had wonderful results with lenses...My hope is that the slide film will give me a better or truer read on my exposures...I currently use 100 or 200 asa color or the Kodak C41 process BW film and although I have my exposure calculations worked out (for the most part) I always wonder how much correction goes on in the processing. I can read a BW neg fairly well but not a color one. With less latitude I realize that I would have to get the exposure of Slide film down pretty much to a science...or artand like I never say...the more you learn - the more you know. Ronnie p ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
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Thanks for the input on transparency film...I have used Velvia 120 in the past with a good light meter and had wonderful results with lenses...My hope is that the slide film will give me a better or truer read on my exposures...I currently use 100 or 200 asa color or the Kodak C41 process BW film and although I have my exposure calculations worked out (for the most part) I always wonder how much correction goes on in the processing. I can read a BW neg fairly well but not a color one. With less latitude I realize that I would have to get the exposure of Slide film down pretty much to a science...or artand like I never say...the more you learn - the more you know. Ronnie p
RE: [pinhole-discussion] new member
The only problem with transparency film is it has much less latitude, less tolerance for variation in exposure. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Pettit, Ronnie (RBI-US RCD) Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:05 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] new member I have been a lurker on this list for a few months and have enjoyed the vast amount of knowledge I have been able to glean from cyberspace. I have been a fan of pinhole photography since my college days where I studied under Wiley Sanderson, Mary Ruth Moore and Dr Robert Nix at the University of Georgia...Bid deal, I know... I have a 4x5 multi focal length and a 8x10 that I don't currently us due to not having a darkroom at the moment...I now typically use a body cap pinhole on my old 35 mm. My question to the group is...Does anyone use transparency film for pinhole use and if so, what problems might be associated with that in contrast to the typical negative film? I ask this because I have seen that the Ilfochrome or Cibachrome is such the standard for the highest quality color printing. Any thoughts comments or contusions? Thanks Ronnie Pettit ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
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Hi Ronnie, welcome to the list. In my work with pinhole and zoneplate bodycaps I use any slide film which is of high contrast due to the low-contrast nature of pinhole. My latest ventures are with Velvia, a nice contrasty slide film. If you have good friends in a developing lab, or if you have the facilities to develop slide film yourself, I have a wonderful solution. My current experiment is to shoot Velvia at ASA 400, and push it 3 stops in the soup. This does two things, 1. it further intensifies the contrast, and 2. intensifies the appearance of grain in the resulting 6x9 print on cibachrome. Velvia holds up well to experimentation in development and the enhanced grain and contrast work well aesthetically with the zoneplate and pinhole imagery. Have fun! Don --- Pettit, Ronnie (RBI-US RCD) ronnie.pet...@reedbusiness.com wrote: I have been a lurker on this list for a few months and have enjoyed the vast amount of knowledge I have been able to glean from cyberspace. I have been a fan of pinhole photography since my college days where I studied under Wiley Sanderson, Mary Ruth Moore and Dr Robert Nix at the University of Georgia...Bid deal, I know... I have a 4x5 multi focal length and a 8x10 that I don't currently us due to not having a darkroom at the moment...I now typically use a body cap pinhole on my old 35 mm. My question to the group is...Does anyone use transparency film for pinhole use and if so, what problems might be associated with that in contrast to the typical negative film? I ask this because I have seen that the Ilfochrome or Cibachrome is such the standard for the highest quality color printing. Any thoughts comments or contusions? Thanks Ronnie Pettit ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New member comments for list message handling and a question
Good suggestions, I'm sure most people feel the same way. The html point has been brought up many many times, but few people ever seem to change it. (Almost) lastly, so my message has some pinhole-related content, I am reading pinhole theory and looking at different camera results in anticipation of converting an old Kodak SLR with a very slow shutter by replacing the lens with a pinhole. While this may seem like the easiest method, you probably won't be very satisfied with it (imho). Making optimal pinholes for such a short focal length is difficult, and the 35mm format is just too small for pinhole. Yes, some have great success with it, but the results will be much better on 120 or larger film. Lastly, at last, what is meant by 'optimal' hole pinhole diameter? What happens when one strays from 'optimal'? When the hole is too big, the image is fuzzy because each point of light ends up with a larger spot on the film than it should. When the hole is too small, defraction occurs. When you look at the edge of a shadow, it is fuzzy. That is defraction. The edges of a shadow *should* be sharp, when you think about it, but in reality they're not. When the pinhole is too small, the image becomes less sharp because of defraction. John