Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome
thanks for the comment
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome
Thanks for the help. I got chemistry from calumet. - Original Message - From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:55 PM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome Dover Photo in Dover NJ has some stocks can get it for youit isn't cheap... be careful of very out of date chemistry. We had a Ilfochrome course at PV this year that developed issues when we tried to use up some chemistrywe bought new ( lost $$$ on the course). If you want I can check with them on stocks/price...contact me @ aschm...@aandy.org good luck...it's a BEAUTIFUL process... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of b2myo...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 7:52 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome In a message dated 10/27/01 6:38:22 PM, erick...@hickorytech.net writes: I can't seem to find the processing chemicals for ilfochrome in any sort of volumes practical for 'wet lab' home processing. It looks like the chemicals are only packaged in larger quantities designed for roller processers. Anybody with more information? I have a package of 2 one litre bottles (little plastic jars, A, B and C) of Ilfochrome chemistry that I purchased from B H some time ago...maybe a year or so. I would guess they still have it but not sure about the shipping issue. Let me know if you want me to give them a call to find out if they ship towhere are you? leezy ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] ilfochrome
Try 85B. TO get accurate colors you will also need to use color correction filters, like the ones you print through. I found the ones I got with just the 85B were kind of neat though I only did a few shots at the end of the class because we had a few sheets of paper left over... have fun...it's really neat...BTW please be careful of ventilation!!! This stuff really stinks... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Bill Erickson Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 4:07 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] ilfochrome Thanks for the replies re P30. I had looked in the on-line catalogues but not in the hard copy. Calumet says there's no extra shipping charge as long it is shipped by ground. Which 85 filter is best? And is the paper ca ISO 6, like BW? I've made a camera which will yield a close to 180 degree angle of view on a 5 1/2 by 14 inch paper curved into a semicircle, with a very thin front so as not to obstruct.
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome
Dover Photo in Dover NJ has some stocks can get it for youit isn't cheap... be careful of very out of date chemistry. We had a Ilfochrome course at PV this year that developed issues when we tried to use up some chemistrywe bought new ( lost $$$ on the course). If you want I can check with them on stocks/price...contact me @ aschm...@aandy.org good luck...it's a BEAUTIFUL process... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of b2myo...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 7:52 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome In a message dated 10/27/01 6:38:22 PM, erick...@hickorytech.net writes: I can't seem to find the processing chemicals for ilfochrome in any sort of volumes practical for 'wet lab' home processing. It looks like the chemicals are only packaged in larger quantities designed for roller processers. Anybody with more information? I have a package of 2 one litre bottles (little plastic jars, A, B and C) of Ilfochrome chemistry that I purchased from B H some time ago...maybe a year or so. I would guess they still have it but not sure about the shipping issue. Let me know if you want me to give them a call to find out if they ship towhere are you? leezy ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome
In a message dated 10/27/01 6:38:22 PM, erick...@hickorytech.net writes: I can't seem to find the processing chemicals for ilfochrome in any sort of volumes practical for 'wet lab' home processing. It looks like the chemicals are only packaged in larger quantities designed for roller processers. Anybody with more information? I have a package of 2 one litre bottles (little plastic jars, A, B and C) of Ilfochrome chemistry that I purchased from B H some time ago...maybe a year or so. I would guess they still have it but not sure about the shipping issue. Let me know if you want me to give them a call to find out if they ship towhere are you? leezy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome
ebay is a great way to get around shipping restrictions on liquid chemicals. I bought a liquid c41 kit off there, when bh and freestyle said they wouldn't ship liquid kits. - Original Message - From: Michael Keller m.w.kel...@verizon.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 8:31 PM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome B H Photo Video has the P30 chemistry kit for $46.99, but it says that due to shipping regs they can't ship it at this time, you have to buy in the store. Hmmm. Calumet has it for $41.95 and says nothing about shipping. http://www.calumetphoto.com Mike Keller http://www.mikekellerphoto.com Don't let your mouth write no check your tail can't cash. - Bo Diddley -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Bill Erickson Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 7:27 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome I want to use ilfochrome paper for direct positive prints. I have experience with RA-4 processing in a JOBO. I can't seem to find the processing chemicals for ilfochrome in any sort of volumes practical for 'wet lab' home processing. It looks like the chemicals are only packaged in larger quantities designed for roller processers. Anybody with more information? ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome
B H Photo Video has the P30 chemistry kit for $46.99, but it says that due to shipping regs they can't ship it at this time, you have to buy in the store. Hmmm. Calumet has it for $41.95 and says nothing about shipping. http://www.calumetphoto.com Mike Keller http://www.mikekellerphoto.com Don't let your mouth write no check your tail can't cash. - Bo Diddley -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Bill Erickson Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 7:27 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome I want to use ilfochrome paper for direct positive prints. I have experience with RA-4 processing in a JOBO. I can't seem to find the processing chemicals for ilfochrome in any sort of volumes practical for 'wet lab' home processing. It looks like the chemicals are only packaged in larger quantities designed for roller processers. Anybody with more information?
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome filtration
From: gapicca...@aol.com Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome filtration Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:03:51 EDT Hello fellow pinheads, This thread has me confused. I understand we need: 1) an 85B to deal with daylight since Ilfochrome is balanced for tungsten 2) a filter pack to deal with the batch to batch variations (unless we just want to yield to kismet), and 3) this is where I am not clear -- do we need an additional filtration for reciprocity failure? assuming we want a little control? Giorgio If you write to me and I don't write back, is that reciprocity failure? In a message dated 10/16/00 8:07:15 AM, pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? writes: hi mark, i did some last summer, you need an 85B filter, because ilfochrome is tungsten balanced. have you been getting lots of blueiness? what kind of camera are you using? good luck! hannah ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/ Hi all, All help has beenwell, helpful. Blue is waning but now I have a bit more magenta than I want. I've been using a 50 yellow anda 10 magenta filter sandwich behind the pinhole. (I'm waiting for an 85B filter to arrive in the mail soon. Hannah, I missed your post, I am using an 8x20 Korona. pinholeman _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] ilfochrome filtration
hi mark, i did some last summer, you need an 85B filter, because ilfochrome is tungsten balanced. have you been getting lots of blueiness? what kind of camera are you using? good luck! hannah --- mark dungan pinhole...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm making 8x20 Ilfochromes in camera. Can anyone help me with the color filtration...I'm struggling and it's getting expensive. Mark _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] ilfochrome filtration
Ah! You're right, I think you need to look at all the filtration recommended in the instructions. UV filter is suggested in the filter pack, too, isn't it?
Re: [pinhole-discussion] ilfochrome filtration
I did a few 8x10 ciba pinholes a few years ago and found that in addition to the 85 filter I had to use a UV filter too. I found there to be too much UV light affecting my color balance, perhaps because there was no glass to block that type of light. Mike Keller wrote: What filtration do you expect to need with Ilfochrome? It's tungsten-balanced, so you'd need a daylight-to-tungsten filter to shoot outdoors. Any other filter pack would vary as you open a new pack of paper. I took a class at Penland some years ago, printing (then) Cibachrome, and an Ilford tech rep taught the class. He brought a processor for us to use, and he spent some time shooting Ciba in an 11x14 field camera, and the orange filter was all he used. ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Chris Peregoy | http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~peregoy | http://imda.umbc.edu/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] ilfochrome filtration
What filtration do you expect to need with Ilfochrome? It's tungsten-balanced, so you'd need a daylight-to-tungsten filter to shoot outdoors. Any other filter pack would vary as you open a new pack of paper. I took a class at Penland some years ago, printing (then) Cibachrome, and an Ilford tech rep taught the class. He brought a processor for us to use, and he spent some time shooting Ciba in an 11x14 field camera, and the orange filter was all he used.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] ilfochrome filtration
Mark, I'd be happy if you could post your findings on this, since I will be getting into this some time in the not too distant future. I just got my hands on a turn-of-the-century (the 19th, of course, not the 20th...) 11x14 view camera which I intend to use both with its original lens and as a pinhole camera. I still have to do quite a lot of cleaning on the camera, test the belows, etc. I have also found a 11x14 film holder on eBay for a cheap price but it may be be a couple of months before I am ready to do this. My plan is to do BW paper negative and Ilfochrome with the camera, so any information you can find on filtration would be very helpful to me in the future, if you care to share it. Do you process the Ilfochrome yourself or do you drop it at your lab? My lab told me that they would be most happy to drop my paper into their processor. Thanks and best wishes. Guy Glorieux b2myo...@aol.com wrote: Get in touch with WillieAnn Wright. She did it before she did the Civil War Renactment series. leezy ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] ilfochrome filtration
The first edition of Eric Renner's book addressed Ilfochrome filtration, but this is one of the things that got left out of the second edition. Mike Vande Bunt mark dungan wrote: Hi, I'm making 8x20 Ilfochromes in camera. Can anyone help me with the color filtration...I'm struggling and it's getting expensive. Mark
Re: [pinhole-discussion] ilfochrome filtration
Get in touch with WillieAnn Wright. She did it before she did the Civil War Renactment series. leezy