RE: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole video?

2000-10-06 Thread edwin gendron
Once I decided to put a pinhole lens on a movie camera, I checked 
into these pinhole lenses, it seems thy are NOT a true pinhole in 
spite of being called that. The pinhole-name  refers to the diameter 
of the Glass in the lens (about 1/8 inch diameter). That doesn't 
mean that the entire lens is 1/8 diameter though. The barrel is 
still about 1  1/4  wide (standard size-nothing unusual there).
But, If anyone DOES know of a really small diameter C-mount lens, 
please don't hesitate to let me know, such things do exist, and 
would be quite useful to me.

I hope this helps,
Thanks
-Ed Gendron


There are pinhole video cameras for sale all the time on Ebay  the back of
electronic's magazines...tiny, tiny cameras...

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hello micheal,

i haven't actually tried video pinhole myself but i have made camera
obscuras.
In which the passing cars etc can clearly be seen.
so in theory it should work.
it would be great to play with!
have fun!
bye
emma

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RE: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole video?

2000-10-06 Thread Andy Schmitt
There are pinhole video cameras for sale all the time on Ebay  the back of
electronic's magazines...tiny, tiny cameras...

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hello micheal,

i haven't actually tried video pinhole myself but i have made camera
obscuras.
In which the passing cars etc can clearly be seen.
so in theory it should work.
it would be great to play with!
have fun!
bye
emma

luv em
x

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RE: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole video?

2000-10-05 Thread Sam Wang

 I realize it is a shameful public display of my ignorance, but...
 Can a pinhole lens be adapted to black and white video photography?


Sure thing.

Just get one of those cheap surveillance pinhole cameras and connect 
it to a VCR and you have it.


Marlin P. Jones sells a black and white one for as little as $39.95 to $59.95:
800/652-6733
www.mpja.com

Sam Wang




Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole video?

2000-10-05 Thread Richard Heather
Many cheap video pinhole cameras are sold on the WWW. They may have plastic
lenses. They may or may not tolerate the radiation.
Richard Heather

Goriup, Michael R wrote:

 Thanks to both of you who responded so quickly and optimistically. I'll ask
 my friends in the labs to try it out.

 The problem (around here they call them opportunities) we're looking at is
 video guiding remote work in high radiation fields.
 Most lens materials are adversely affected by the radiation and turn dark
 (usually brown) within a short time (days or weeks).
 I can shield the electronics to last a reasonable amount of time, it would
 be nice if I could get away from lenses too.





RE: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole video?

2000-10-05 Thread edwin gendron

Michael,

Well...hopefully this will help solve a few opportunities. Good luck.
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole video?

2000-10-05 Thread Gregg Kemp
Michael,

I recalled something about using pinholes in x-ray imaging in space and found 
the item here:

http://www.p at ???/diary/1998/1998_August.php

Don't know if this will be useful for what you're doing, but interesting anyway.

Gregg

 -Original Message-
 From: Goriup, Michael R [mailto:goriu...@id.doe.gov]
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 2:48 PM
 To: 'pinhole-discussion@p at ???'
 Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole video?
 
 
 Thanks to both of you who responded so quickly and 
 optimistically. I'll ask
 my friends in the labs to try it out.
 
 The problem (around here they call them opportunities) 
 we're looking at is
 video guiding remote work in high radiation fields.
 Most lens materials are adversely affected by the radiation 
 and turn dark
 (usually brown) within a short time (days or weeks).
 I can shield the electronics to last a reasonable amount of 
 time, it would
 be nice if I could get away from lenses too.
 
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  Sent:   Thursday, October 05, 2000 11:35 AM
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  Subject:Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole video?
  
  Michael,
  One more thing, I believe that your video camera MUST have a 
  REMOVABLE LENS in order to replace it with the pinhole 
 aperture that 
  you wish to use.
  
  
  I realize it is a shameful public display of my ignorance, but...
  Can a pinhole lens be adapted to black and white video 
 photography? 
  
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole video?

2000-10-05 Thread Goriup, Michael R
Thanks to both of you who responded so quickly and optimistically. I'll ask
my friends in the labs to try it out.

The problem (around here they call them opportunities) we're looking at is
video guiding remote work in high radiation fields.
Most lens materials are adversely affected by the radiation and turn dark
(usually brown) within a short time (days or weeks).
I can shield the electronics to last a reasonable amount of time, it would
be nice if I could get away from lenses too.

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 From: edwin gendron [SMTP:egend...@vt.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 11:35 AM
 To:   pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject:  Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole video?
 
 Michael,
 One more thing, I believe that your video camera MUST have a 
 REMOVABLE LENS in order to replace it with the pinhole aperture that 
 you wish to use.
 
 
 I realize it is a shameful public display of my ignorance, but...
 Can a pinhole lens be adapted to black and white video photography? 
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole video?

2000-10-05 Thread edwin gendron

Michael,
I am trying to do 16mm (film) pinhole photo, and I am finding that 
for optimum-pinhole size the f-stop is around F-100. Leaving me and 
my 40 ASA film stock at a rough shutter speed (metered for the 
lights that I use) of TWO MINUTES. Now, on the other hand I have 
seen (on the web) a fellow who made a (non-optimum size) pinhole 
with an F-stop of 30 for a 16mm movie camera, and push-processed 
his 500 ASA film accordingly to get a good exposure.
The point of all of this is: how light sensitive is your video 
camera? You MAY (though I have not tried it)  have to make a very 
large pinhole to get  a decent exposure. But then again, it could be 
just the look you need...who knows?? why not try it? If you already 
have the camera, it won't add much cost to slap a homemade pinhole 
lens on the front, w/ camera tape or some similar method.

I am experimenting too, let me know how that turns out.
Good luck,
-Ed Gendron


I realize it is a shameful public display of my ignorance, but...
Can a pinhole lens be adapted to black and white video photography? 


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