Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Monday meeting time! > -- > sebas > > http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org Hi, I couldn't attend, so here are my notes * Most of the week, work on preloading plasmodis for "first impression" ** finished and pushed the preload patch, 3 policies supported with env var ** refined it to make sure everything is preloaded and the items are already parented where they should, there may still be some nested listviews (hello devicenotifier) or plasmoids with very fat delegates (hello networkmanager) which could use more optimization, but i'm happy for now ** work to make the systray items take advantage of preload * started to work on "Cards" component for Kirigami, design phase and first prototypes in the Kirigmai channels (hopefully will be the first component that will get an hig while is being developed) * helped Fredrik to test the dma buf wayland protocol for kwin -- Marco Martin
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:26:42PM +0200, Marco Martin wrote: > Notes for today, 23 October 2017 Bhushan: - Tried to investigate the bug with kwayland-integration and the plasma mobile shell along with d_ed, no luck so far pinpointing actual issue, we do know the cause of bug however. - Fixing the idletime on phone - Investigated the cause for the brightness reset on start, pondering on fix, which would be horrible timer sadly (issue on phone) - Build fix in the kwin wayland hwcomposer plugin - Looking into pulseaudio as top priority right now -- Bhushan Shah http://blog.bshah.in IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode GPG key fingerprint : 0AAC 775B B643 7A8D 9AF7 A3AC FE07 8411 7FBC E11D signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
Fabian also added some comments just after: [12:06] <fvogt> * Did some strace-based profiling of plasma startup - discovered two things: [12:06] <fvogt> ** The applicationDir is added as first entry to the QML and Library search paths, slowing lookups down considerably [12:06] <fvogt> especially for libraries, as it literally opened every file in /usr/bin/ to check whether it's a plugin... [12:07] <fvogt> Easy workaround available, but should probably be fixed in Qt [12:08] <fvogt> ** KPluginLoader::forEachPlugin takes significantly more time if all plugins are in a single directory, so there should probably be a policy to put them into subdirs [12:09] <fvogt> ** Plasma wayland session is now tested by openQA in the usual Tumbleweed release process - so if you break stuff it delays our releases, so please don't do that :P [12:09] <fvogt> EOF
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Present: Riddell, kbroulik, notmart, mgraesslin, Mathieu, sebas, > Date: December 14th, 2015 > > PSA: > * The Plasma 5.6 Kickoff meeting is tomorrow Tuesday 15:00UTC/16:00CET > * Next Plasma hangout is on 4th of January, not hangout in the next two weeks, > too many people won't be available, and we all should slow down once in a > while. Happy holichristmas! Bhushan: - Rebuilding frameworks/plasma packages for mobile - Had plan to do next image today, but plasma doesn't start (delayed till tomorrow) - Working on getting camera working for plasma mobile Thanks! -- Bhushan Shah http://bhush9.github.io IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On 11/16/2015 01:13 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Sho: > - favorite migration not entirely figured out That's about the planned KActivities-backed favorites stuff (which is skipping 5.5 now); migrating faves from the old config format to the new one for the backend swap in 5.5 is taken care of tho. Cheers, Eike ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > bshash: > - pushed screenlocker split to make it wayland-ready Uhoh, I meant screenlocker integrated into kwin_wayland -- Bhushan Shah http://bhush9.github.io IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: minutes monday plasma hangout
On Monday, November 2, 2015 12:54:17 PM CET Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: > Hi, > > - merged new session model and user switcher plasmoid, migrated lock screen > to it (thanks Bhushan for merging) - not sure if new user switcher makes it > for 5 Nov please note that Nov 5 is not the feature freeze, but repo freeze. As long as you want to put code into existing repos you have time till 19th. Cheers Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: minutes monday plasma hangout
Hi, - merged new session model and user switcher plasmoid, migrated lock screen to it (thanks Bhushan for merging) - not sure if new user switcher makes it for 5 Nov - various bug fixes (back mouse button support in Kickoff, changing applet visibility in systray) I also fixed notification popup continuously expanding with QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO > 1, so I was wondering what's still missing to enable it for plasmashell again. From what I can tell panelcontroller more menu still expands and some blur / contrast regions are off but font rendering looks fine here (Qt 5.4.2 and 5.5.1) as well as panel struts are correct. Gesendet von meinem BlackBerry 10-Smartphone. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > Present: David, Jens, Martin G, Marco Bhushan - Released IMG9 for mobile with newer frameworks and plasma - Trying out firefox on the plasma mobile : http://i.imgur.com/wcsYQnQ.png - It works very well, have some profile hacks for screen resolution and other random stuffs - Will release new amd64 based iso for plasma mobile by today -- Bhushan Shah http://bhush9.github.io IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Bhushan: > - automated the mobile image creation (working on CI) > - started working on mobile-friendly lockscreen Oh, forgot to add one point, - We are starting Season of KDE 2015 soon, add your ideas here: https://community.kde.org/SoK/Ideas/2015 -- Bhushan Shah http://bhush9.github.io IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday, September 28, 2015 10:44:41 AM CEST Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Present: David, Marco, Martin G., Ovidiu, sebas > Date: 28 September, 2015 > > David: > - investigating crash in printer-manager > - bug-triaged of systemsettings > - talked to Limux people about a sprint > > Marco: > - worked on widget explorer (adding screenshots) > - config dialogs in Plasma Mobile for widgets > - okular-based reader is now more performant > - wanted to work on components for mobile, but needs some de-confusion > in mobile HIG (will talk to Thomas and Jens) > - will go back to Wayland work > > Martin: > - was on vacation > - will go to Qt World Summit next week > - discussing with Unity devs changes in statusnotifier protocol that was the Martin (last name) not Martin (first name) ;-) > - someone is interested in adding VNC support to kwin > - We now have API docs for KWayland > > Ovidiu: > - progress on pootle for KDE (web-based stuff for translations) > - updated Romanian KDE translations guide, > - working on KDE Romania website (will be at ro.kde.org) > > Sebastian: > - worked on splitting the owncloud client so it can be used as lib by > third parties: basics build, fixing stuff and upstreaming / merging > changes planned next > - will resume work on Wayland screen management protocol this week, > protocol is mostly done, implementation needs a few changes, then more > review and fixes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday, August 17, 2015 05:12:00 AM Jeremy Whiting wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Present: Bhushan, David, Jens, Kai Uwe, Martin G, Ozark, Sebastian > > Date: 17 August, 2015 > > > > Bhushan: > > - working on apps, first off comic book reader > > - Looked into Plasma Moible on Archlinux: > > https://github.com/bhush9/plasma-arch > > > > David: > > - fixed some shoddy porting > > - Fixed translations > > - Fixed a bug in KScreen > > - 5.4 looks pretty good, probably not a log of real bugs (or too little > > testing!) > > - will fix davetray after 5.4 is out > > > > > > Jens: > > - visited GUADEC, GNOME struggles with many of the same problems as KDE > > does > Which problems are you referring to specifically? For those of us that > weren't at GUADEC and are curious. Well they have similar issues as us when it comes to things like dev-bleeding, how to attract new people, retain people who are here, how to minimize the threshold to get into KDE/GNOME and in general make our communities more pleasant places to be in, work in and be part of. That issue balloons into things like "What technical methods do we employ to make contributing code easier" and things like "How to make sure our community remain visible" and to "How to make sure the community remains independent from companies and sponsors". One proposal was to see if the people in Gnome working on that issue (Sriram for example) could talk to people withing KDE who does the same thing (Like Lydia) to at least compare notes. Why do twice the work independently when we can help each other out. Other issues was how to make certain the drawbridge is down between the Gnome community and the KDE community. The fact that we know fairly little about each other in comparison how theoretically close we are (and practically close we could be) shows that we should see if we couldn't make that communication simpler (outside of bugreports that tend to go into slugfests). Just a shortlist of things... > > > Kai Uwe: > > - Fixes here and there > > - interfaces powerdevil with his ambient light sensor in a hackish way > > - tried Skeyer, gesture-based keyboard which comes with a maliit plugin > > > > [1] https://saidinesh5.wordpress.com/2014/05/20/on-the-way-to-skeyer/ > > [2] https://bitbucket.org/skeyer/skeyer/ > > > > Martin: > > - Working on KWin QPA progressing well > > - now working on input devices > > - looking into "the OpenGL story" right now > > > > Sebas: > > - Worked on KScreen/Wayland wl protocol for disconnected outputs w/ Martin > > - Discussed merge plans with dvratil (either wayland-integration or > > libkscreen) > > - Finalized Plasma Mobile vision > > - Worked a lot on docs for Plasma Mobile (see wiki) > > - will do more docs > > - more phabricator (task workflow basics are there, migrate more, then > > move on to code reviews) > > - interview this afternoon > > - finalize > > > > > > -- > > sebas > > > > http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 > > ___ > > Plasma-devel mailing list > > Plasma-devel@kde.org > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday, August 17, 2015 05:12:00 AM Jeremy Whiting wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Present: Bhushan, David, Jens, Kai Uwe, Martin G, Ozark, Sebastian > > Date: 17 August, 2015 > > > > Bhushan: > > - working on apps, first off comic book reader > > - Looked into Plasma Moible on Archlinux: > > https://github.com/bhush9/plasma-arch > > > > David: > > - fixed some shoddy porting > > - Fixed translations > > - Fixed a bug in KScreen > > - 5.4 looks pretty good, probably not a log of real bugs (or too little > > testing!) > > - will fix davetray after 5.4 is out > > > > > > Jens: > > - visited GUADEC, GNOME struggles with many of the same problems as KDE > > does > Which problems are you referring to specifically? For those of us that > weren't at GUADEC and are curious. Well they have similar issues as us when it comes to things like dev-bleeding, how to attract new people, retain people who are here, how to minimize the threshold to get into KDE/GNOME and in general make our communities more pleasant places to be in, work in and be part of. That issue balloons into things like "What technical methods do we employ to make contributing code easier" and things like "How to make sure our community remain visible" and to "How to make sure the community remains independent from companies and sponsors". One proposal was to see if the people in Gnome working on that issue (Sriram for example) could talk to people withing KDE who does the same thing (Like Lydia) to at least compare notes. Why do twice the work independently when we can help each other out. Other issues was how to make certain the drawbridge is down between the Gnome community and the KDE community. The fact that we know fairly little about each other in comparison how theoretically close we are (and practically close we could be) shows that we should see if we couldn't make that communication simpler (outside of bugreports that tend to go into slugfests). Just a shortlist of things... > > > Kai Uwe: > > - Fixes here and there > > - interfaces powerdevil with his ambient light sensor in a hackish way > > - tried Skeyer, gesture-based keyboard which comes with a maliit plugin > > > > [1] https://saidinesh5.wordpress.com/2014/05/20/on-the-way-to-skeyer/ > > [2] https://bitbucket.org/skeyer/skeyer/ > > > > Martin: > > - Working on KWin QPA progressing well > > - now working on input devices > > - looking into "the OpenGL story" right now > > > > Sebas: > > - Worked on KScreen/Wayland wl protocol for disconnected outputs w/ Martin > > - Discussed merge plans with dvratil (either wayland-integration or > > libkscreen) > > - Finalized Plasma Mobile vision > > - Worked a lot on docs for Plasma Mobile (see wiki) > > - will do more docs > > - more phabricator (task workflow basics are there, migrate more, then > > move on to code reviews) > > - interview this afternoon > > - finalize > > > > > > -- > > sebas > > > > http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 > > ___ > > Plasma-devel mailing list > > Plasma-devel@kde.org > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
Forgot to add: Due to popular demand [1] I worked on porting the Solid auto mounter which was forgotten during the split from kde-runtime to plasma-desktop. https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/124730/ [1] in basically every G+ post, reddit thread or comment on news pages about the Plasma 5.4 Beta release there was someone complaining about it missing ;) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Present: Bhushan, David, Jens, Kai Uwe, Martin G, Ozark, Sebastian > Date: 17 August, 2015 > > Bhushan: > - working on apps, first off comic book reader > - Looked into Plasma Moible on Archlinux: > https://github.com/bhush9/plasma-arch > > David: > - fixed some shoddy porting > - Fixed translations > - Fixed a bug in KScreen > - 5.4 looks pretty good, probably not a log of real bugs (or too little > testing!) > - will fix davetray after 5.4 is out > > > Jens: > - visited GUADEC, GNOME struggles with many of the same problems as KDE does Which problems are you referring to specifically? For those of us that weren't at GUADEC and are curious. > > Kai Uwe: > - Fixes here and there > - interfaces powerdevil with his ambient light sensor in a hackish way > - tried Skeyer, gesture-based keyboard which comes with a maliit plugin > [1] https://saidinesh5.wordpress.com/2014/05/20/on-the-way-to-skeyer/ > [2] https://bitbucket.org/skeyer/skeyer/ > > Martin: > - Working on KWin QPA progressing well > - now working on input devices > - looking into "the OpenGL story" right now > > Sebas: > - Worked on KScreen/Wayland wl protocol for disconnected outputs w/ Martin > - Discussed merge plans with dvratil (either wayland-integration or > libkscreen) > - Finalized Plasma Mobile vision > - Worked a lot on docs for Plasma Mobile (see wiki) > - will do more docs > - more phabricator (task workflow basics are there, migrate more, then move on > to code reviews) > - interview this afternoon > - finalize > > > -- > sebas > > http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday, July 13, 2015 10:32:42 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Next week: no hangout on Monday, but on Tuesday due to public holiday in > relevant regions Forget this line, it's an error. -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
Eike * Finished refactoring the Kicker backend to (among other things) allow favorite'ing arbitrary things like contacts with realtime status information: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/07/05/contactfaves.png * Ongoing: Lean fullscreen launcher interface (to make up for old Homerun) using this backend; porting Kickoff to this backend to get feature parity between all of the launchers * Some early toying with a new version of libtaskmanager implemented as proxy models on top of the PlasmaWindowModel I put into kwayland recently Cheers, Eike ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday 11 May 2015, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Marco: > - ported libplasma mostly away from ksycoca, handling bugs resulting from > that now > - experiment to use only one QQmlEngine for all applets: slightly faster, > less memory > - see thread "Good news regarding Qt 5.5" on plasma-devel list forgotten a point: - restored possibility to load kcms inline in plasmoid config dialogs, but only valid for the qml ones, same key in the applet desktop file (already used for the volume control one) -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > - kactivity usage stats See : https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2015-May/041331.html -- Bhushan Shah http://bhush9.github.io IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
For the record, I'm still somewhat against all of these QML KCM ports ... Qt Quick Controls currently: - Has no form layouts and other problems making it difficult to implement good config UIs (e.g. no way to get the metrics to do nice hanging indents). Numerous Qt Quick UIs we have are really badly laid out compared to their Plasma 4 equivalents. - No automatic keyboard accelerator management. - Worse performance. - Incomplete QStyle support and as a result various visual and behavioral integration issues. - Worse hardware compatibility (Qt Quick 2 requires OpenGL, i.e. all of these UIs stop working if GL/llvmpipe breaks). I also see no real *benefit* right now beyond "Qt Quick Controls is the future". It may well be, but what matters is the quality of what's in any given tarball. I understand amassing code using it generates pressure to get it there, but do we really want to use the suffering of our userbase as leverage? Have we really tried everything we can to address these problems before we expose more users to them yet? This is going to lower the quality of the software we ship for a good while. Not to take a cheap shot, but anyone read boud's recent blog post? Cheers, Eike On 04/27/2015 12:54 PM, Marco Martin wrote: Monday hangout notes for 27 April 2015 Antonis * bugfixing * thinking about porting fonts or icons to QML Bhushan * recent media backend to PMC to like know what episode you are in while watching a tv show David E * long bugfixing week * hack qt4 apps to correctly load statusnotifiers in Debian * working to fix a crash in qml animations David R * Bluetooth applet * can control mediaplayer from device, shows current playing * bugfixing * next, maybe porting its kcms to qml Jonathan: * 5.3 out tomorrow * please take a look to the announcement/errata, correct if necessary * https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.3.0.php * https://community.kde.org/Plasma/5.3_Errata * https://www.kde.org/info/plasma-5.3.0.php Martin G * worked on managing monitor edid * code for overriding wrong information from screens * direct rendering mode for kwin, merged: kwin_wayland --drm --libinput -- xwayland * hotplugging of outputs, already better than X11 * will continue work on drm backend Tim Ramms * fixes for notifications and jobs Vishesh * Bugfixes in baloo and krunner * will merge new indexer in master Marco * qml port of mouse KCM: needs a solution to combobox bugs to be merged * branch in libplasma to port away from sycoca: target is to stop installing desktop files in kservices5 * next week will continue on that * will continue on bugfixes ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday, April 13, 2015 13:11:33 David Edmundson wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > >> * Possible mismatch between Dolphin and Plasma, since they use different > >> baloo > >> databases > > > > Could you please elaborate? > > What you said in the thread "Plasma 5.4 Release Schedule". > > Jonathan was saying in his notes that the previous week we had discussed > the schedule, and 5.4 is being "delayed" partly because you want it (and > partly because of Akademy and other things mentioned in that thread) One thing that was brought up by Martin is that Dolphin should be able to know which baloo database to pick, so Dolphin handles this case gracefully. It makes sense in the light of decoupling application and workspace releases, but probably but some additional burden on apps such as Dolphin, which should be able to use the right index, whether it runs in Plasma 4 or 5. Cheers, -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > >> * Possible mismatch between Dolphin and Plasma, since they use different >> baloo >> databases >> > > Could you please elaborate? > What you said in the thread "Plasma 5.4 Release Schedule". Jonathan was saying in his notes that the previous week we had discussed the schedule, and 5.4 is being "delayed" partly because you want it (and partly because of Akademy and other things mentioned in that thread) David > > > > -- > Vishesh Handa > > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > > ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > * Possible mismatch between Dolphin and Plasma, since they use different > baloo > databases > Could you please elaborate? -- Vishesh Handa ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > minutes of hangout from 30 march 2015: Bhushan Shah: - Bug fixes > Lockscreen password field focus fix. > 1 pixel gap between right aligned panel and screen edge - VDG thread for TV optimized dashboard support in PMC https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=125594 - Planned more bugfixes -- Bhushan Shah http://bhush9.github.io IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
Ivan: - mostly work on ResourceModel in libkactivities-stats - few squashed bugs On 9 March 2015 at 22:01, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Monday, March 09, 2015 12:30:44 Marco Martin wrote: >> notes for hangout of 9 March: >> >> present: Jens, David, Kai Uwe, Vishesh, Marco > > From me (sorry for not being able to attend): > - Worked on papercuts, quite a few down already > - Fixed a regression (caused by myself) in the tooltip (thanks everybody who >helped, I *think* we got it right just in time for the Frameworks 5.8 >release > - NM Plasmoid's tooltip is now more in line with other systray widgets > - Pager collapses to zero width (or height) now when virtual desktops < 2 > - Toolbox is more subtle (faded background) > - Kickoff's "Recently Used" tab is now called "History" (shorter labels are > happy labels) > > I think that's it from my side. > -- > sebas > > Sebastian Kügler|http://vizZzion.org| http://kde.org > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel -- Cheerio, Ivan -- While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words Dying to believe in what you heard I was staring straight into the shining sun ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday, March 09, 2015 12:30:44 Marco Martin wrote: > notes for hangout of 9 March: > > present: Jens, David, Kai Uwe, Vishesh, Marco From me (sorry for not being able to attend): - Worked on papercuts, quite a few down already - Fixed a regression (caused by myself) in the tooltip (thanks everybody who helped, I *think* we got it right just in time for the Frameworks 5.8 release - NM Plasmoid's tooltip is now more in line with other systray widgets - Pager collapses to zero width (or height) now when virtual desktops < 2 - Toolbox is more subtle (faded background) - Kickoff's "Recently Used" tab is now called "History" (shorter labels are happy labels) I think that's it from my side. -- sebas Sebastian Kügler|http://vizZzion.org| http://kde.org ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > present: Jens, David, Kai Uwe, Vishesh, Marco Bhushan: - plasma-mediacenter in kde/workspace - will work on restoring playlist functionality next week - there will be no more kde4 based release of pmc now; 1.3 was last release -- Bhushan Shah http://bhush9.github.io IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
Ivan: In Moscow, spreading C++ and KDE love. Will be back this Thursday. Cheerio, Ivan On 2 March 2015 at 13:48, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Hey there! > > Today's minutes from our weekly hangout session ahead! > > Present: Harald, Kai, Martin G., Sebastian, David, Vishesh, Jonathan > > 2nd March, 2015 > > David > * Merged timedated patches into systemsettings > * worked on highdpi stuff, has test hardware now > * Fixed ksnapshot hidpi > * has Qt patches for hidpi > * More hidpi stuff this week (mostly QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO) > * Kubuntu testing & fixes planned > > Vishesh > * Worked on Xapian replacement, looking /really/ good performance-wise > * Working on calculator runner to be safer not to lock up resources > > Jonathan > * Released 5.2.1 bugfix update > > Harald > * Just here for the biscuits (which biscuits? someone should bring biscuits!) > * Looks into docs of release scripts, tarballs and translation problem > > Kai > * Fixed bug in popups when switching themes (used wrong, transparent artwork) > > Marco > * Working on hidpi support in FrameSvg ( > https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122673/ ) > * Working on QML modules as KCModules > * Works on a little tool to explore and edit Plasma themes > > Martin > * Has Wayland server running, not yet able to manage Wayland clients > * XWayland compositing, cursor handling and input goes through Wayland > * Integrate Wayland clients, starting with Kwin's integrated ones, highly WIP > * Work is in clones/mgraesslin/kwin[wayland-qpa-no-merge] > * Problem with Samsung monitor and dpi settings / icon scaling > * Fixed geolocation to use Mozilla location services > * Patch to use wifi data for geolocation (will make it default to off for > privacy) > > > Sebastian Kügler > * Rewrote Plasma's tooltip layout > * WIP work on pager tooltips > > -- > sebas > > http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel -- Cheerio, Ivan -- While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words Dying to believe in what you heard I was staring straight into the shining sun ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
ivan: finishing main parts of libKActivitiesStats ResultSet testing suite. Working on the ResultWatcher. On 2 February 2015 at 13:23, Martin Klapetek wrote: > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Marco Martin wrote: >> >> >> Martin G was at FOSDEM: cross-desktop Wayland meeting: >> - systray, notifications, no xembed for wayland enlightenment-> >> statusnotificer >> - gnome->persistent notifications extension, they don't want user >> interacting >> with systray > > > Can you please share some more info about these^? Or is it somewhere > noted down in public? > > Cheers > -- > Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer > > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > -- Cheerio, Ivan -- While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words Dying to believe in what you heard I was staring straight into the shining sun ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > > Martin G was at FOSDEM: cross-desktop Wayland meeting: > - systray, notifications, no xembed for wayland enlightenment-> > statusnotificer > - gnome->persistent notifications extension, they don't want user > interacting > with systray > Can you please share some more info about these^? Or is it somewhere noted down in public? Cheers -- Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
Ivan: - bringing the KActivitiesStats closer to the experimental release - fancy random-data-based tests for the above Todo: - should finish the main parts this week Original Message From: Marco Martin Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:42 To: Plasma Reply To: plasma-devel@kde.org Subject: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout Present: Harald Kai Uve, Martin G, Martin K, Sebas, Vishesh, Marco 26th January 2015 Harald: - next week no iso - fixed bug in release that caused wrong docs Kai Uve: - Power management - FDO inhibitions inhibit everything now, fixes Chrome, VLC and others turning screen off while watching video - Configure what the power button does - Inhibitions are now shown in battery monitor - XRandrBacklight migrated to XCB - Grace period for automatic suspending - some work on plotter Martin G: - security advisors and fixes for screenlocker - XLib porting in KWin (trying to get kwin x-free) - 10 xlib calls left - went trough xscreensaver bugs, closed most of them that are specific to old arch - next week wayland stuff in preparation for cross desktop meeting Martin K: - moving average remaining time for battery (still need some work) - bugfixes, fixed double copy job for files - fixed battery time to not have seconds - next week some telepathy work Sebas: - this week will help with release notes, text&screenshots Vishesh - worked on xapian alternative - bugfixing, especially krunner bugs - closed old nepomuk bugs Marco: - bugfixes - still have to push in this qt patch https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/104061/ - workaround on keyboard shortcuts not working for qactions (in plasma will work, pay attention for QML-based apps) - next week still more bugfixes -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday 19 January 2015 12:45:20 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Present: Leinir, David, Jens, Kai Uwe, Marco, Martin (G. & K.), Vishesh, > Sebastian > > 19th January, 2014 Ivan: The experimental KActivities Stats library - namespace is KActivities::Experimental::Stats, planned to move to KActivities::Stats when it becomes stable; - Supports getting the information about used resourcecs, linked resources to activities; - Can filter the results according to the activity in which they were used, agent which accessed them; - Ordering of the results (for used resources) can be by the highest score, by url, by the time when they were first or last used. TODO: - Support filtering by type (needs changes in KAMD) - Support ordering by title (needs changes in KAMD) - Support other orderings for the linked resources - Support merging lists of linked and used resources ... -- Cheerio, Ivan KDE, ivan.cukic at kde.org, http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/ gpg key id: 850B6F76, keyserver.pgp.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday 05 January 2015, Eike Hein wrote: > On 01/05/2015 03:46 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Get better! > > Gute Besserung! > we, thanks everybody :) -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On 01/05/2015 03:46 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: Get better! Gute Besserung! Cheers, Eike ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday, January 05, 2015 15:45:29 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Am 2015-01-05 15:36, schrieb Marco Martin: > > On Jan 5, 2015 12:42 PM, "Sebastian Kügler" wrote: > > > > > > Present: David, Kai Uwe, Martin G., Martin K., sebas > > > > > > > > Wasn't present (disabled by flu) but: > get well soon *hugs* Get better! -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
Am 2015-01-05 15:36, schrieb Marco Martin: On Jan 5, 2015 12:42 PM, "Sebastian Kügler" wrote: > > Present: David, Kai Uwe, Martin G., Martin K., sebas Wasn't present (disabled by flu) but: get well soon *hugs* ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Jan 5, 2015 12:42 PM, "Sebastian Kügler" wrote: > > Present: David, Kai Uwe, Martin G., Martin K., sebas Wasn't present (disabled by flu) but: Worked with david to get kpackage working without regressions on old workspace Worked on the plotter patch, but in the end didn't merge for this release due to concerns ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Tuesday 09 December 2014 12:58:19 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Martin: > - Will check if the fix for context menues is in 5.4.0 just checked: the problematic commit is in 5.4 branch but *not* in 5.4.0 tag. Cheers Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On 01.12.2014 15:10, Mario Fux wrote: ah, didn't know those.. where there is more info? https://frinring.wordpress.com/ Yes, that's the one I meant (the most recent post). Direct link to the relevant post for future reference: https://frinring.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/workspace-wide-services-on-non-file-objects/ I don't know what the current status is on that, and it's meant to do much much more than SLC in the end, but there is definitely an overlap. I hope Friedrich will tell us more. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday 01 December 2014, Mario Fux wrote: > > as soon there is some library to share stuff, for instance the mentioned > > one, having it used by share/like connect becomes trivial (also more > > applications starting to report their current open file). > > i didn't really try to port so far becasue what was still missing was > > a) the share library > > Was there a kdelibs4 version or was it missing back then too? nope, that's the reason why sadly in kde4 share like connect could just send email attachments and that was pretty much it :/ -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
Am Montag, 01. Dezember 2014, 14.49:09 schrieb Marco Martin: Morning > On Monday 01 December 2014, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > On 01.12.2014 13:05, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > > Aleix: > > > [...] > > > - worked on kamoso, frameworks branch should work like 4.x version, > > > modulo - sharing of pictures (could be shared with quickshare plasmoid) > > > > What about Share/Like/Connect? Is that completely dead by now? Will it > > come back at a later point? > > as soon there is some library to share stuff, for instance the mentioned > one, having it used by share/like connect becomes trivial (also more > applications starting to report their current open file). > i didn't really try to port so far becasue what was still missing was > a) the share library Was there a kdelibs4 version or was it missing back then too? > b) integrated with kaccounts for authentication > > that or *anything* else would solve the problem > > > And there are also Friedrich Kossebau's (CC'ed) plans for a new context > > plugin framework which would also allow sharing (he talked to the > > usability group about them at Akademy). Could we use that when it's done? > > ah, didn't know those.. where there is more info? https://frinring.wordpress.com/ > > Sharing is more and more important and should be accessible as easily as > > possible, without having to add additional Plasmoids manually. > > one thing i would like is the share icon also automatically activated and > added in the systray by default when the current application is exporting > some url griits Mario ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 01.12.2014 13:05, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > >> Aleix: >> [...] >> - worked on kamoso, frameworks branch should work like 4.x version, modulo >> - sharing of pictures (could be shared with quickshare plasmoid) >> > > What about Share/Like/Connect? Is that completely dead by now? Will it > come back at a later point? > Well, it should be usable for the Share part, I guess. Yes. > > And there are also Friedrich Kossebau's (CC'ed) plans for a new context > plugin framework which would also allow sharing (he talked to the usability > group about them at Akademy). Could we use that when it's done? > I wasn't there, I can be filled-in. > > Sharing is more and more important and should be accessible as easily as > possible, without having to add additional Plasmoids manually. > First iteration should be to integrate it into Kamoso like Kamoso-kde4 used to do. No plasmoids, involved. > It's okay to get this at a later point, but our sharing story is still too > weak in general and has to be improved. +1 Aleix ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday 01 December 2014, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 01.12.2014 13:05, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Aleix: > > [...] > > - worked on kamoso, frameworks branch should work like 4.x version, > > modulo - sharing of pictures (could be shared with quickshare plasmoid) > > What about Share/Like/Connect? Is that completely dead by now? Will it > come back at a later point? as soon there is some library to share stuff, for instance the mentioned one, having it used by share/like connect becomes trivial (also more applications starting to report their current open file). i didn't really try to port so far becasue what was still missing was a) the share library b) integrated with kaccounts for authentication that or *anything* else would solve the problem > And there are also Friedrich Kossebau's (CC'ed) plans for a new context > plugin framework which would also allow sharing (he talked to the > usability group about them at Akademy). Could we use that when it's done? ah, didn't know those.. where there is more info? > Sharing is more and more important and should be accessible as easily as > possible, without having to add additional Plasmoids manually. one thing i would like is the share icon also automatically activated and added in the systray by default when the current application is exporting some url -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On 01.12.2014 13:05, Sebastian Kügler wrote: Aleix: [...] - worked on kamoso, frameworks branch should work like 4.x version, modulo - sharing of pictures (could be shared with quickshare plasmoid) What about Share/Like/Connect? Is that completely dead by now? Will it come back at a later point? And there are also Friedrich Kossebau's (CC'ed) plans for a new context plugin framework which would also allow sharing (he talked to the usability group about them at Akademy). Could we use that when it's done? Sharing is more and more important and should be accessible as easily as possible, without having to add additional Plasmoids manually. It's okay to get this at a later point, but our sharing story is still too weak in general and has to be improved. Cheers, Thomas ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
Sorry I didn't make it to the meeting. My week: - Monday-Wednesday fixing all the things in SystemSettings 5.x. Done most, about ~15 open reports remain. - Fixed a security issue - Thursday-Friday creating a super secret logind dbus API wrapper: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fdavidedmundson%2Fqlogind.git It's needed as QDBusAbstractInterface does not handle org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties change signals at all, so I forked it. Eventually I'll push those changes back into Qt. Plan for this week: - Make SDDM use new logind library and add remaining features needed for multiseat - Fix all session switching bugs - Go back to cleaning system settings bugs (I have ~15 left) David ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday, September 29, 2014 14:34:40 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 29.09.2014 12:40, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Jonathan > > - Plasma 5.1 beta is out tomorrow, feedback for pre-packages is good > > - Then 10 days to make 5.1.0 reliable > > - weekly isos currently moving from neon5 to kubuntu5 > > Will there be a 5.1 beta ISO? > That might increase the number of beta testers significantly (_might_ > because it's really just a guess, based on the fact that I know some > people - including myself - who know Plasma 5 only from the Neon5 ISOs > so far) As soon as the move to the new iso mechanism is done, we'll have an ISO ready for testing. -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On 29.09.2014 12:40, Sebastian Kügler wrote: Jonathan - Plasma 5.1 beta is out tomorrow, feedback for pre-packages is good - Then 10 days to make 5.1.0 reliable - weekly isos currently moving from neon5 to kubuntu5 Will there be a 5.1 beta ISO? That might increase the number of beta testers significantly (_might_ because it's really just a guess, based on the fact that I know some people - including myself - who know Plasma 5 only from the Neon5 ISOs so far) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday 22 September 2014, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Marco: > - continued refactoring dialog class with Vishesh > - has been testing gerrit for patch reviews > - standalone framework for Plasma::Package is in playground (git clone > kde:kpackage) - standalone application mode for plasmashell, intended for plasma mediacenter: 2 parallel approaches: in plasmawindowed and in plasmashell, still undecided what's better -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 20:54:13 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > I'm on holiday this week and not much online, canoeing to independence. YES! Have fun during your holiday! -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 09:20:49PM +0200, Eike Hein wrote: > > > On 15.09.2014 13:11, Sebastian K?gler wrote: > >Announcement: > > Freeze coming up: https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 > > [...] > >Marco: > > [...] > >- will send email about freeze and -related process > > Just for clarification: There seems to be some confusion > over whether the freeze for 5.1 is this week or next week. > > The linked wiki page lists 2014-09-25 as freeze date > (next week) and several people have things in flight > that are scheduled around that, including me and apol > (who is working on some things planned Kicker > functionality depends on). > > I.e. I plan to merge additional features + messages > before the scheduled freeze date next week. Freeze is a week on Thursday,25th September. I tidied up the schedule last month and did post about it but I should have hilighted this change, sorry for the confusion. I'm on holiday this week and not much online, canoeing to independence. Jonathan ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On 15.09.2014 13:11, Sebastian Kügler wrote: Announcement: Freeze coming up: https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 > [...] Marco: > [...] - will send email about freeze and -related process Just for clarification: There seems to be some confusion over whether the freeze for 5.1 is this week or next week. The linked wiki page lists 2014-09-25 as freeze date (next week) and several people have things in flight that are scheduled around that, including me and apol (who is working on some things planned Kicker functionality depends on). I.e. I plan to merge additional features + messages before the scheduled freeze date next week. Cheers, Eike ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Re: Re: Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Wednesday 17 September 2014 14:05:07 Pier Luigi Fiorini wrote: > 2014-09-17 13:31 GMT+02:00 Martin Gräßlin : > > Martin GräßlinOn Wednesday 17 September 2014 08:41:49 wrote: > > > I'll split out my code from kwin using git-filter branch. I think that's > > > > the > > > > > only sane approach to have the complete history and in the end do a > > > relicence commit. > > > > Just did the split and pushed the code to a new repository at [1]. Please > > note > > that the code is currently still lacking a working build system and all > > other > > needed metadata. I'll add these in the next steps. Once that is done I'll > > request a new repo in kde-workspace. I hope that we can get around the > > review > > requirement as it's code already present in kde-workspace. > > > > Cheers > > Martin > > > > [1]: kde:scratch/graesslin/kwayland > > Adding my code on top of that repo should be easy given that it's all in > the kwayland subdirectory (protocols can be move there and git filtered > before sending the patches). > > But I have a few things to say: > > - Are you sure/which workspace components need to access those interfaces > besides kwin? I don't know yet. But I don't think it matters. I will make the CMakeLists to create two libraries - one client and one server. So the server interfaces won't matter except when explicitly requested. > - Even if Wayland bits are visible only in private I would like to avoid > that by using qtwaylandscaner. I do not want a dependency on QtWayland. We might consider this in the future but at the moment QtWayland is unreleased software. I'm also not really interested in adding another layer between our API and Wayland. Cheers Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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2014-09-17 13:31 GMT+02:00 Martin Gräßlin : > Martin GräßlinOn Wednesday 17 September 2014 08:41:49 wrote: > > I'll split out my code from kwin using git-filter branch. I think that's > the > > only sane approach to have the complete history and in the end do a > > relicence commit. > > Just did the split and pushed the code to a new repository at [1]. Please > note > that the code is currently still lacking a working build system and all > other > needed metadata. I'll add these in the next steps. Once that is done I'll > request a new repo in kde-workspace. I hope that we can get around the > review > requirement as it's code already present in kde-workspace. > > Cheers > Martin > > [1]: kde:scratch/graesslin/kwayland > Adding my code on top of that repo should be easy given that it's all in the kwayland subdirectory (protocols can be move there and git filtered before sending the patches). But I have a few things to say: - Are you sure/which workspace components need to access those interfaces besides kwin? - Even if Wayland bits are visible only in private I would like to avoid that by using qtwaylandscaner. -- Out of the box experience http://www.maui-project.org/ ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Re: Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
Martin GräßlinOn Wednesday 17 September 2014 08:41:49 wrote: > I'll split out my code from kwin using git-filter branch. I think that's the > only sane approach to have the complete history and in the end do a > relicence commit. Just did the split and pushed the code to a new repository at [1]. Please note that the code is currently still lacking a working build system and all other needed metadata. I'll add these in the next steps. Once that is done I'll request a new repo in kde-workspace. I hope that we can get around the review requirement as it's code already present in kde-workspace. Cheers Martin [1]: kde:scratch/graesslin/kwayland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Wednesday 17 September 2014 08:36:53 Pier Luigi Fiorini wrote: > 2014-09-15 13:11 GMT+02:00 Sebastian Kügler : > > Minutes Plasma Hangout, 15-9-2014 > > [cut] > > > Martin G: > > - will add a dependency on Frameworks 5.3 (will be out in time for Plasma > > 5.1) - ambiguity with window states, working on fix (debugging / writing > > unit tests) > > - Will travel to XDC and likely do a presentation about Kwin's XCB port > > - will work on kdecoration2 during freeze > > - will push wl-related code lib into own repo, to be shared with other > > plasma bits > > [cut] > > > Pierluigi: > > > > - working on plasma-workspace wayland branch: > > - panel stuff > > - ksplashqml > > I'm about to move that code into a scratch repo, meanwhile the > libkwayland static library became a shared library in the kde-wayland > scratch repo at: scratch/pierluigifiorini/kde-wayland > Needs some more work as I don't want to expose protocol implementation > to the world, this should be a full Qt wrapper around the protocol. > > I invite Martin G. merge his stuff here or the other way around, in > case of the latter I need to know where my commits need to be > imported. I'll split out my code from kwin using git-filter branch. I think that's the only sane approach to have the complete history and in the end do a relicence commit. Cheers Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
2014-09-15 13:11 GMT+02:00 Sebastian Kügler : > Minutes Plasma Hangout, 15-9-2014 > [cut] > Martin G: > - will add a dependency on Frameworks 5.3 (will be out in time for Plasma 5.1) > - ambiguity with window states, working on fix (debugging / writing unit > tests) > - Will travel to XDC and likely do a presentation about Kwin's XCB port > - will work on kdecoration2 during freeze > - will push wl-related code lib into own repo, to be shared with other plasma > bits [cut] > > Pierluigi: > - working on plasma-workspace wayland branch: > - panel stuff > - ksplashqml I'm about to move that code into a scratch repo, meanwhile the libkwayland static library became a shared library in the kde-wayland scratch repo at: scratch/pierluigifiorini/kde-wayland Needs some more work as I don't want to expose protocol implementation to the world, this should be a full Qt wrapper around the protocol. I invite Martin G. merge his stuff here or the other way around, in case of the latter I need to know where my commits need to be imported. -- Out of the box experience http://www.maui-project.org/ ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday, August 25, 2014 15:26:32 Aleix Pol wrote: > What does outside of plasma mean? It's in plasma-framework right? Outside of Plasma-the-workspace-as-we-ship, not outside of plasma-framework. Basically, Maui using plasma-framework. -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Minutes Plasma Hangout, 25-8-2014 > > Present: Antonis, Marco, Martin G., Jonathan, Vishsesh, Kai Uwe, Sebas > > For updates on TODO/status, see also Kanban board at: > https://todo.kde.org/?controller=board&action=show&project_id=13 > > Antonis: > - Worked on Baloo timeline model, > - will continue post-exams (good luck!) > > Marco: > - Moved more components over to QQC > - Dialogs got option to not have a background, easier to use outside of > Plasma > (Maui, for now) > ** snip ** > - Look & Feel KCMs merged > - Experimented with Plasma KPart > - Started port of plasma-windowed > > Martin: > - Will attend http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2014/ > It would be good if at least one more Plasma developer could go > - Refactored KWin-internal Wayland client library > - Working on rendering to multiple outputs > - Will try to implement shell interfaces for Wayland > > Jonathan: > - unified cmake version numbers, quickens release process > > Vishesh: > - Research metadata handling in other OSen (Mac OS, Microsoft) > - Worked on removable media support > - Improved krunner's scoring algo > > Kai Uwe: > - Worked on Breeze kdecoration2 > - Looked into wl_touch interface > - Started impementing markdown support in Notes plasmoid > > sebas: > - QScreen backend in review, waiting for feedback about one more issue > - Previews for URL lists in Klipper, in review > - More work on libkscreen's Wayland backend What does outside of plasma mean? It's in plasma-framework right? Aleix ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Monday 25 August 2014 14:22:20 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Minutes Plasma Hangout, 25-8-2014 > > Present: Antonis, Marco, Martin G., Jonathan, Vishsesh, Kai Uwe, Sebas > > For updates on TODO/status, see also Kanban board at: > https://todo.kde.org/?controller=board&action=show&project_id=13 Investigating a big issue with the way plasma handles activities. There is something strange going on with plasma not instantiating containments for all activities. -- Cheerio, Ivan KDE, ivan.cukic at kde.org, http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/ gpg key id: 850B6F76, keyserver.pgp.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Monday 11 August 2014, Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 11 August 2014, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > - Working on Look&Feel KCM > > One thing I would like to hear opinions about on this is: > the look and feel kcm depends from 2 things inside 2 repositories: > * the lookandfeelaccess class inside plasma-workspace, that at the moment > is static > * from plasma-desktop, kcms/krdb/krdb.cpp that is static as well, is used > to apply colors icons etc to gtk and qt-only apps (now also to kde4 apps) > > so, either lookandfeelaccess becomes a public library or gets copied in > plasma-desktop.. > > opinions? to better exemplify, i did put the kcm on plasma-desktop (had to copy the lookandfeelaccess class) so now it does some of the required fancy stuff like immediately applying icons, cursors, widget style, colors to gtk apps.. (discovered a neat bug in the meantime, that QQuickWidget that was supposed to solve all our problems just dies and stops rendering if the widget style changes, but eh, whatever..) all of that code is horrible kitten-killer old stuff, and comes from old kcms, so i tried to use as much as possible including their files (some from kcminput, some from krdb.cpp that's statically linked by half of the kcms) so, horrible++ but i would go this way as the least horrible -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Monday 11 August 2014, Vishesh Handa wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Antonis: > > - finished port of PA's widget explorer and containment > > - New resource indexer based on Baloo merged > > Could someone please elaborate on this? I'm not sure what a "resource > indexer" means. I think he meant the import of the baloo model -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Antonis: > - finished port of PA's widget explorer and containment > - New resource indexer based on Baloo merged > Could someone please elaborate on this? I'm not sure what a "resource indexer" means. -- Vishesh Handa ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Monday 11 August 2014, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > so, either lookandfeelaccess becomes a public library or gets copied in > > plasma-desktop.. > > > > opinions? > > plasma-desktop on first look sounds wrong to me as we probably want to have > look and feel also for other form factors, don't we? the use if for sure, the kcm don't know (may make sense since its ui would be in qml) in this case would be that beautiful ancient code of krdb.cpp to be copied in plasma-desktop -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Monday 11 August 2014 14:11:21 Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 11 August 2014, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > - Working on Look&Feel KCM > > One thing I would like to hear opinions about on this is: > the look and feel kcm depends from 2 things inside 2 repositories: > * the lookandfeelaccess class inside plasma-workspace, that at the moment is > static > * from plasma-desktop, kcms/krdb/krdb.cpp that is static as well, is used to > apply colors icons etc to gtk and qt-only apps (now also to kde4 apps) > > so, either lookandfeelaccess becomes a public library or gets copied in > plasma-desktop.. > > opinions? plasma-desktop on first look sounds wrong to me as we probably want to have look and feel also for other form factors, don't we? Cheers Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Monday 11 August 2014, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > - Working on Look&Feel KCM One thing I would like to hear opinions about on this is: the look and feel kcm depends from 2 things inside 2 repositories: * the lookandfeelaccess class inside plasma-workspace, that at the moment is static * from plasma-desktop, kcms/krdb/krdb.cpp that is static as well, is used to apply colors icons etc to gtk and qt-only apps (now also to kde4 apps) so, either lookandfeelaccess becomes a public library or gets copied in plasma-desktop.. opinions? -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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> Ivan: > - Per-activity favourites being discussed on the list > -> needs community-wide decision, see plasma-devel > - KWindowSystem can now set activities > - will port activities KCM - kamd plugins ported to kf5 (virtual desktop switching, and activity switching keyboard shortcuts) -- Cheerio, Ivan KDE, ivan.cukic at kde.org, http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/ gpg key id: 850B6F76, keyserver.pgp.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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Ivan: - A few fixes - Restarted implementation of pinned tasks - first implemented them in the applet itself, while the logical place is the libtaskmanager -- Cheerio, Ivan KDE, ivan.cukic at kde.org, http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/ gpg key id: 850B6F76, keyserver.pgp.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Tuesday 29 July 2014, Aleix Pol wrote: > > khintsettings should do something along the lines: > > * with some heuristics access the lookandfeel package (it's only a folder > > after all, wouldn't be very difficult) and open a config file with > > default icons/widget style etc > > * read the default if available, fallback to an hardcoded internal one if > > fail > > Agreed, also fonts could have a place there. so, this is how the experiment is going: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119534/ it's now getting some settings from the "defaults" config file in the l&f package with the rule: * if the config key is set in kdeglobals, use that, the custom user setting always win * if the config key is not set in kdeglobals, look in the configured l&f package * if not set in the configured l&f package, look in the default l&f package * if still fails, hardcoded default, exactly as before * for colors, it looks also if the l&f package is actually shipping a colors file (it's looking for a color file with the same name as the one set in defaults, probably going to change to a file simply called always just colors) apart from that, i wonder if this could also add a subdirectory of the package as a searchpath for kiconloader another thing i wonder, if it should monitor for change in the configured l&f package (may need modification in KConfig) -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2014, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Monday 28 July 2014, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > > - Started mechanism to load stuff from Look and Feel packages > > > > > > would like comment on https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119451/ > > > > Based on the discussion with David in the hangout, i would still do: > > - the look and feel package provides qml files for some parts of the > shell > > - most theme elements (icons, plasma theme, widget style etc) are usually > > provided only referred in a config file > > - if a theme wants to phisically provide something, like a plasma theme, > > icon theme etc, it can, bout would be task of the kcm to either copy or > > make a link of say, the icon theme in the proper directory where an icon > > theme would be expected. > > - or in alternative, the theme could be specified in the config file as a > > full path, so for icons if you are using the "foo" look and feel package, > > you could have in kdeglobals > > > > [Icons] > > Theme=~/.share/plasma/lookandfeel/foo/icons > > comments on that? > furthermore, how would you prefer to use it? > as a standalone library? static in plasma-workspace stuff? in > libplasmaquick? > other? > > Maybe we should have a library for accessing look&feel packages? I don't think it belongs to libplasma, since libplasma is about applets and containments management. We could have a library within plasma-workspace that does this? If we need to expose it further we could consider at some point, but I don't think it will be needed. About how to tell what icon theme the look&feel package suggests to use, I think that rather than specifying a path, it should be specifying a unique identifier so that we know how to get it. Something like Themes=default:/breeze or Themes=kns:/diamond or Themes=bodega:/awesomefuturisticrainbows or Themes=http://... Does that make sense? Aleix ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2014, Marco Martin wrote: > > > [Icons] > > > Theme=~/.share/plasma/lookandfeel/foo/icons > > > > comments on that? > > furthermore, how would you prefer to use it? > > as a standalone library? static in plasma-workspace stuff? in > > libplasmaquick? other? > > next on that, the lookandfeel package should somehowinfluence > khintsettings in > the frameworkintegration framework (that of course couldn't depend from a > package) > > khintsettings should do something along the lines: > * with some heuristics access the lookandfeel package (it's only a folder > after all, wouldn't be very difficult) and open a config file with default > icons/widget style etc > * read the default if available, fallback to an hardcoded internal one if > fail > > Agreed, also fonts could have a place there. Aleix ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Monday 28 July 2014, Marco Martin wrote: > > [Icons] > > Theme=~/.share/plasma/lookandfeel/foo/icons > > comments on that? > furthermore, how would you prefer to use it? > as a standalone library? static in plasma-workspace stuff? in > libplasmaquick? other? next on that, the lookandfeel package should somehowinfluence khintsettings in the frameworkintegration framework (that of course couldn't depend from a package) khintsettings should do something along the lines: * with some heuristics access the lookandfeel package (it's only a folder after all, wouldn't be very difficult) and open a config file with default icons/widget style etc * read the default if available, fallback to an hardcoded internal one if fail -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Monday 28 July 2014, Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2014, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > - Started mechanism to load stuff from Look and Feel packages > > > > would like comment on https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119451/ > > Based on the discussion with David in the hangout, i would still do: > - the look and feel package provides qml files for some parts of the shell > - most theme elements (icons, plasma theme, widget style etc) are usually > provided only referred in a config file > - if a theme wants to phisically provide something, like a plasma theme, > icon theme etc, it can, bout would be task of the kcm to either copy or > make a link of say, the icon theme in the proper directory where an icon > theme would be expected. > - or in alternative, the theme could be specified in the config file as a > full path, so for icons if you are using the "foo" look and feel package, > you could have in kdeglobals > > [Icons] > Theme=~/.share/plasma/lookandfeel/foo/icons comments on that? furthermore, how would you prefer to use it? as a standalone library? static in plasma-workspace stuff? in libplasmaquick? other? -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Monday 28 July 2014, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > - Started mechanism to load stuff from Look and Feel packages > would like comment on https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119451/ Based on the discussion with David in the hangout, i would still do: - the look and feel package provides qml files for some parts of the shell - most theme elements (icons, plasma theme, widget style etc) are usually provided only referred in a config file - if a theme wants to phisically provide something, like a plasma theme, icon theme etc, it can, bout would be task of the kcm to either copy or make a link of say, the icon theme in the proper directory where an icon theme would be expected. - or in alternative, the theme could be specified in the config file as a full path, so for icons if you are using the "foo" look and feel package, you could have in kdeglobals [Icons] Theme=~/.share/plasma/lookandfeel/foo/icons -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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I mentioned in the meeting that I was poking around in the Intel graphics driver with Aleix. That's now in a Qt bug report here: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-40341 The short version of it is: Qt defaults to a loading an OpenGL context with comparability for a super super old version of OpenGL (from 2004). This compatibility layer uses /lots/ of memory. QtQuick2.0 won't even work on something that old (I think) so we may as well not request these old features. This saves us up to 15Mb per QtQuick application. I can set the surfaceFormats in PlasmaShell, but I'd rather get a proper fix into Qt on the defaults where we have more knowledgeable people than me making sure we don't break anything. David ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Monday 14 July 2014 12:59:44 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > - Improvements for sizehints of plasmoids (needs some testing, not in 5.0 > for that reason) is merged, so test and screams if it blows up :p -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Monday 14 July 2014, Vishesh Handa wrote: > On Jul 14, 2014 1:02 PM, "Sebastian Kügler" wrote: > > Sebastian: > > - last bits of work on release promo, join #kde-promo to help out > > - long video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n2dthDSGkc > > - short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8JYt_xkJuY > > - release notes at: https://notes.kde.org/p/DgPya8rUD7 > > Is Breeze the default theme? We seem to be talking a lot about it. yes, is picked as default if installed (and yes, the fact that is not hosted on kde infrastructure is sad and should be fixed in one way or the other...) -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Jul 14, 2014 1:02 PM, "Sebastian Kügler" wrote: > Sebastian: > - last bits of work on release promo, join #kde-promo to help out > - long video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n2dthDSGkc > - short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8JYt_xkJuY > - release notes at: https://notes.kde.org/p/DgPya8rUD7 Is Breeze the default theme? We seem to be talking a lot about it. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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From me:
- Going to do various little fixes in Folder & Kicker.
- Optimization work in Folder, there's a bunch of low-hanging fruit to
make things speedier, e.g. around mode-switching to unsorted mode on
internal DND, and memory usage can be trimmed further as well.
- Going to start porting Icon Tasks (it'll be a reimplementation based
on the new QML Task Manager & by forward-porting the lib-side
launcher<->startup notification->task work already done for the KDE 4
Expanding Icons Task Manager fork - current consensus seems to be to
stick to two Widget Explorer entries, but if we can work it out they
might share the same Plasma package to avoid any duplication).
- Porting the Web Shortcuts KCM and moving it from Konq to KIO, since
it's used by KRunner and numerous apps (Konvi, Konsole, Okular ...).
(Workspace-unrelated: Also started porting Konversation to KF5 on the
weekend, it already builds and chats ("frameworks" branch) but a bunch
of things are disabled right now.)
Cheers,
Eike
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Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
> Present: Antonis, David, Jonathan, Marco, Martin G, Vishesh, Rohan Ivan: - Drag and drop windows <-> activities tumbling - Activity pinning and such - Window model mutability Cheerio, Ivan KDE, ivan.cukic at kde.org, http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/ gpg key id: 850B6F76, keyserver.pgp.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Monday, June 30, 2014 13:04:20 Marco Martin wrote: > Minutes of hangout from 30th June 2014 > > Present: Ivan, Jens, David, Jonathan, Marco, Martin G, Vishesh [...] Sebastian: * Systemsettings new categorization, will push today * General bugfixing and testing * Some release promo preps -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > Minutes of hangout from 30th June 2014 > > Present: Ivan, Jens, David, Jonathan, Marco, Martin G, Vishesh > > Ivan > * window presentation effect on activity switcher > > Jens > * runners kcm ui > * articles > * wallpaper, contacting winners > * systemsettings, working out UI issues > * writing up a document on "how we work" > * producing right sizes of wallpapers > > David > * bugfixing > * Vacation!! > > Jonathan: > * tagged today > * thursday tag plasma, make sure everything is in > * branch vs only tag? we are going for 3 moths release, and branches > > Marco > * bugfixes > * finished last api fixes to Theme > > Martin G: > * bugfixes > * started to work of 5.1 features of klipper (history is a model, ui will > be > aplasmoid) > * enforce ssd for gtk (apparently needs more discussion) > * investigate global shortcut kcm > * will disable threaded loop in kwin and plasma > > Vishesh > * bugfixing (some to still be reviewed, like in ksmserver) > * user kcm fixes > * needs an icon for Runner KCM > Hi, Sorry for not being able to attend the meeting. We've been discussing here in the office about plasma release schedule, then I've been told that in the hangouts meeting today it was decided that we'd go for having a stable branch but I don't see it reflected here for some reason, can somebody please elaborate? I think it's quite unfortunate to know that the version we're all testing won't be the one we'll be delivering since the branching date. Aleix ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Monday 30 June 2014 13:04:20 Marco Martin wrote: > Minutes of hangout from 30th June 2014 > > Present: Ivan, Jens, David, Jonathan, Marco, Martin G, Vishesh > > Ivan > * window presentation effect on activity switcher > > Jens > * runners kcm ui > * articles > * wallpaper, contacting winners > * systemsettings, working out UI issues > * writing up a document on "how we work" > * producing right sizes of wallpapers > > David > * bugfixing > * Vacation!! > > Jonathan: > * tagged today > * thursday tag plasma, make sure everything is in > * branch vs only tag? we are going for 3 moths release, and branches > > Marco > * bugfixes > * finished last api fixes to Theme > > Martin G: > * bugfixes > * started to work of 5.1 features of klipper (history is a model, ui will be > aplasmoid) > * enforce ssd for gtk (apparently needs more discussion) > * investigate global shortcut kcm > * will disable threaded loop in kwin and plasma will disable the "disable threaded loop"... ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Here are the minutes of the mondaily hangout meeting from 23rd of June, > 2014 > > Present: David, Ivan, Jonathan, Marco, Martin G., Sebastian > > > > David: > - General bugfixing > - Plans more general bugfixing > > Ivan > - activity switcher is faster now > - locks up when it's not preloaded (bug!) > - focused / current activity is not very clear, will take it up with VDG > - > > Jonathan > - Plasma 5 in "pretty good shape" > - KF5 planning to tag final early next week > - Push to get artwork in (e.g. wallpaper) > - Plasma RC due to tag next week > > --> Everybody, Get stuff in final shape!! > > Marco > - General bugfixing > - Changes in Plasma::Theme to support "ColorScope", influences color scheme > for its children > - wants to merge new Konqi logo into About KDE > - some discussion around KDE logo going on > > Martin > - Bugfixing > - Making "no shaders available" case more robust > - Load of bugfixes in Aurorae theme > - Started writing unittests for Klipper so it can move to a plasmoid for > 5.1 > > Sebastian > - Discussing with designers the KCM structure, was some delay, still > hoping to > get it done shortly > - Translations KCM merged -- testing welcome > - Fixed a number of "random" bugs, triaged more > - Plans to start work on 5.0 release promo this week > - systemsettings categorization work incoming > > > Cheers, Hi, My excuses for not attending the meeting, last week I dedicated it to: - hunting some problems in the panel and fixed some visual glitches. - hunting multi-screen issues, apparently there's another important bug in Qt xcb plugin. Aleix ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Present: David, Ivan, Jonathan, Marco, Martin G., Sebastian Bhushan - Want review on https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/118876/ - Bux fixing and triage -- Bhushan Shah http://bhush9.github.io IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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On Monday 16 June 2014, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Marco: > - "mindless" bugfixing mode > - Monochrome kickoff tabbar > - Fixes in dialog (yes, more of those) - startup fixes: no random opening systray at startup - less animations, applets jumping around the panel at startup -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
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Ivan: - Keyboard activity switching and UI navigation (as seen in the blog post) On 10 June 2014 12:43, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Minutes from Monday Plasma Hangout Today! > > Present: AleixAntonis, Jonathan, Marco, Martin G., Martin K., David, > Sebastian, Vishesh > > > Antonis > - Worked on wallpapers in Plasma Active shell > - Created new touch-based UI to replace desktop UI > - Added support for creating and editing activities > - Exam period is starting, will be less available > > Jonathan > - Made tarballs for Beta2 > - Everything seems to be green, but one build problem > - Release engineering for Beta2 planned now > > Marco: > - Bugfixing related to translations > - Renaming plugins causes issues, catalogs names haven't caught up yet > - Implemented color groups for Plasma SVG > - Using color groups in Logout / Lock screen > > Martin G: > - Bugfixing / -investigation (also translations-related) > - Problems found all over the place, will send patches and report bugs > - https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/118423/ > - https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/118461/ > - https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/118252/ > > Martin K: > - tested StatusNotifierItems for Qt4 > - Needs some fixes with Qt5-based systray > - QIcon::setPath(...) isn't respected in Plasma.IconItem -> needs fixing > - Timezone problem in digital clock bug > > David: > - Hunted down bug in Qt > - Much bugfixing > - Login themeing should be universal (SDDM and Plasma) > > Sebastian: > - "Random" bugfixes here and there > - Merged streamlining of Comment fields for KCMs > - Fixed bug with meta key (two review requests) > - Worked on systemsettings redesign proof-of-concept > - Worked on translations KCM, stranded at "installed languages don't show > up > in the UI" right now > > Vishesh: > - Worked on Dialog class last week (for KRunner) > - collected use-cases > - wrote simple tests for each of them > - Fixed baloo issues with Qt5 > - Will go over existing bugs to clean up buglist > -- > sebas > > http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > -- KDE, ivan.cu...@kde.org, http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/ gpg key id: 850B6F76 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Monday 26 May 2014, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Minutes 26-06-2014 > > Present: Aleix, Antonis, David, Jens, Marco, Martin G., Martin K., > Sebastian > > Aleix: > - Investigated Plasma startup performance: What can we do better? For svgs, There were several problem in different places that caused the cache only partly used (a couple of them were already present in plasma1 so the cache never worked with 100% reliability). I fixed hopefully all of them (after noticing a part of the patch was exactly what you pushed, lol) I can now obtain a startup with exactly 100% cache hits -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Monday 26 May 2014 13:05:20 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Minutes 26-06-2014 > > Present: Aleix, Antonis, David, Jens, Marco, Martin G., Martin K., Sebastian Ivan: - Finishing up the resources model. - Little refactoring - Playing around with favourites and task pinning. It will be uglier than originally thought. Hope not much. - Started working on the keyboard navigation for act. switcher Cheers, Ivan -- Science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. -- Isaac Asimov ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
i18n in Plasma [Was Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout]
On Monday 05 May 2014 13:10:44 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > - Discovered problems in Kwin and Plasma localization (to be discussed on > mailinglist) ok, so with frameworks i18n changed a bit. I highly recommend to read the documentation in [1]. Things to be done are: * set KLocalizedString::setApplicationDomain [2] in the application, never in libs * for libraries (this includes plugins!) set in CMakeLists.txt: add_definitions(-DTRANSLATION_DOMAIN=\"nameofcatalog\") for an example see [3] * for ui files one needs to use ki18n_wrap_ui - for an example also see [3] * ensure that every component has Messages.sh Things I do not know yet: * how to handle qml, this also needs the translation domain, but no idea how to set it. * how to handle ui files which are loaded at runtime * how to test an application with translations After adjusting KWin I have a bad feeling that we have to audit all components for i18n usage. Everything will need adjustments, especially the plugins. Though this should be said: it's way simpler and more intuitive than it used to be in kde4. Cheers Martin [1] http://api.kde.org/frameworks-api/frameworks5-apidocs/ki18n/html/prg_guide.html [2] http://api.kde.org/frameworks-api/frameworks5-apidocs/ki18n/html/classKLocalizedString.html#ad866b11bf396b9d93b7dc313a1930b7b [3] http://commits.kde.org/kwin/1c2f27945c8c50612a75cec6cb773a710b6fad15 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Monday, May 05, 2014 12:30:15 Ivan Čukić wrote: > Ivan: > - Resource linking is almost back. A few kinks to work out. Will be merged > after the first release of kf5. > > Cheerio, > Ivan > > p.s. I'm not properly online to join in the hangout :/ Thanks for prenatal and proactive hijacking of this thread! Here goes the rest: Plasma Meeting 05-05-2015 Present: David, Jens, Marco, Martin G., Martin K., Sebastian, Aleix, Alex, Jens: - The mythical Andrew has done mythical work on windecos, in a branch in kde:breeze - Work on icon theme starts, we'd like it packaged so it can be tested easily - Some communication strategy around branding and user feedback - Worked on OSD icons together with Martin Klapetek Marco: - Breeze repo is up, receiving artwork-related work (cursor theme already in there, QML style coming up, Arorae style coming up) - New splash screen is merged - Working on bugfixes - More work on Plasma::Dialog improvements Aleix: - Started working on port of libkscreen patches for Plasma (Qt API is lacking for screen management) Alex: - Ported libkscreen to XCB, to continue this week - Works on Solid::PowerManagement (release blocker for frameworks) - Tracking down crash in favicon kded Martin Grässlin: - Mouse interaction with Arorae theme is fixed - XCB porting in kwin - Audited screenlocker code, worked on some simplification and unit tests - Fixed crasher in windowthumbnails - Discovered problems in Kwin and Plasma localization (to be discussed on mailinglist) - Important fix to kglobalaccel needs review: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/117839/ Martin Klapetek: - Finished notifications patch for memory usage improvement - investigated bug with new panels overlapping - Panel struts patch coming up David: - Worked on various bugfixes and SDDM improvements - Working on SDDM - work on not running too much stuff as root - SDDM and lockscreen theme - QtQuickControls layout improvements Sebastian: - Fixed up fontinst KCM, font installation and deinstallation now worked in my tests (port was incomplete) - Worked on resizing Plasma panel popups: basically works, few bugs (also uncovers bad minimum- vs. preferred sizes, fixing those as well - Will also work on Kickoff bugs -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Monday 28 Apr 2014 12:50:41 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Plasma Hangout 28-4-2014 > > Present: Antonis, David, Jonathan, Marco, Martin G., Martin K., Rohan, > Sebastian, Aleix Ivan: - Working on kamd database stuff -- A program that has not been tested does not work. -- Bjarne Stroustrup ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > jens > * planning of wallpaper contest > Any news on that^? Cheers -- Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Monday, March 31, 2014 17:04:34 Aleix Pol wrote: > That's not accurate, plasma-workspace and plasma-desktop have full history, > only that it's grafted. KWin on the other hand could have lost some history > because we filtered the subdirectory it was in, since Martin didn't want > the grafts. > > Also plasma-workspace and plasma-desktop are ready, they're grafted but > ready. As I said on the e-mail, if anybody doesn't like the result, s/he > can feel free to take a different approach. Thanks for the clarification! -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Present: Antonis Tsiapaliokas, David Edmundson, Alex Fiestas, Martin > Klapetek, > Jens Reuterberg, Jonathan Riddell, Marco Martin, Martin Gräßlin, Sebastian > Kügler > > > Alex: > - New repos ready > - All repos ready, but plasma-desktop and plasma-workspace > - Problems with moved files w/ git-filter-branch > - Might result in missing history in plasma-desktop and plasma-workspace > ** snip ** > > Antonis: > - Working on Plasmate's publisher > - Signing dialog blocked due to kdepimlibs > - Will work on themes now > > David: > - Bugfixing (busy work and planned) > - Finished merge of KNotifications patches > - We need a way to group and show our relevant bugs in one list > > Martin Klapetek: > - Some PIM stuff lined up > - Wants to make KHolidays work (for calendar) > > Jens: > - Andrew is working on documentation and merging visual guidelines with > human > interface guidelines > - Too much going on right now, needs better scheduling > > Jonathan: > - made tarballs for Alpha 1 (due tomorrow) > - no feedback so far (lack of test builds?): please test! > - issue in Oxygen / kdecoration > > Marco: > - New default Plasma theme: Breeze > - Some elements not working yet, but good enough for Alpha1 > - Changed desktop scripting: unbroke it, see email to plasma-devel for > details: please test! > - did bugfixing > > Martin G: > - pre-freeze and pre-split code cleaning > - bugfixing > > Sebastian Kügler: > - unavailable in the next weeks due to vacation > - please take bugs assigned to me, I'm default assignee > - Marco to run the monday hangouts > - Jonathan to work on release engineering > - Vishesh to handle meeting organization > - to send feedback about latest version of Comme font to designer > -- > sebas > > http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > That's not accurate, plasma-workspace and plasma-desktop have full history, only that it's grafted. KWin on the other hand could have lost some history because we filtered the subdirectory it was in, since Martin didn't want the grafts. Also plasma-workspace and plasma-desktop are ready, they're grafted but ready. As I said on the e-mail, if anybody doesn't like the result, s/he can feel free to take a different approach. Aleix ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
In data lunedì 31 marzo 2014 14:24:50, Sebastian Kügler ha scritto: > I'd say it can go open anytime now. :) There: http://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=287 What would be nice to have (but not required) is a list of "dos and don'ts" wrt posting there. I'll turn it into a sticky: for reference see the 4.13 beta forum. -- Luca Beltrame, Ph.D. Translational Genomics Unit, Department of Oncology IRCCS Istituto di Ricerche Farmacologiche "Mario Negri" signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Monday, March 31, 2014 13:58:39 Luca Beltrame wrote: > In data lunedì 31 marzo 2014 16:51:19, Bhushan Shah ha scritto: > > We really want way to abstract "Support queries" and "Real bugs" after > > The offer for a specific Plasma Next forum for alpha and beta reports is > still open. I'd say it can go open anytime now. :) -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Monday 31 Mar 2014 12:51:24 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Present: Antonis Tsiapaliokas, David Edmundson, Alex Fiestas, Martin > Klapetek, Jens Reuterberg, Jonathan Riddell, Marco Martin, Martin Gräßlin, > Sebastian Kügler Unfortunately, another problematic Monday for me. I've been fixing some issues with the switcher. Now I'm trying to deal with sometimes-happening ksmserver related issues with activity starting/stopping. Ch! -- Science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. -- Isaac Asimov ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
In data lunedì 31 marzo 2014 16:51:19, Bhushan Shah ha scritto: > We really want way to abstract "Support queries" and "Real bugs" after The offer for a specific Plasma Next forum for alpha and beta reports is still open. ;) -- Luca Beltrame, Ph.D. Translational Genomics Unit, Department of Oncology IRCCS Istituto di Ricerche Farmacologiche "Mario Negri" signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Martin Klapetek wrote: > We need something to also cover frameworks bugs related to the release > (which doesn't mean /all/ of frameworks bugs). Keywords, Maybe? -- Bhushan Shah http://bhush9.github.io IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Minutes Monday Plasma hangout
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Bhushan Shah wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > - We need a way to group and show our relevant bugs in one list > > Isn't both searches working? > > http://is.gd/JXtMcV (plasma-shell bugs) > http://is.gd/UGXTYg (plasma-shell + kwin bugs) > We need something to also cover frameworks bugs related to the release (which doesn't mean /all/ of frameworks bugs). Cheers -- Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
