Re: [PLUG] Booth is set up
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:07:56 -0700 Shane Ball dijo: >I will be at the show Wednesday and hope to meet some of you there, i >would be willing to help some as well if you like. >Shane Ball It is always good to have help. Sometimes there are no customers, usually there is one customer, and sometimes there are two or more. Two people at the booth is good when demand is high. It is also good to have someone to give me a break now and then. So your help will be very welcome. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Booth is set up
> "John" == John Jason Jordan writes: John> But there may be a problem. There are no stools. I was there today and when asked was told that the chair(s) would be delivered tomorrow. -- Russell Senior, President russ...@personaltelco.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Booth is set up
I will be at the show Wednesday and hope to meet some of you there, i would be willing to help some as well if you like. Shane Ball On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:11 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > But there may be a problem. > > There are no stools. Another exhibitor nearby said they were charging > $45 for a stool. But then a group for OSUOSL arrived (second booth down > from us) and they told me that their information said they were to have > stools. I said that we had not paid for our booth, and they replied > that they did not pay for theirs either. > > One of the group said she spoke "Trade Show" and offered to go to the > exhibitor help desk to check it out. The man behind the desk said the > stools are arriving tomorrow. > > So now I'm assuming we'll have stools, and hoping that the first > exhibitor that I talked to was wrong. If someone is around tomorrow > morning it would be good to check out our booth to be sure we have > something to sit on, else I can bring something when I come at 5:00. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > -- Thanks, Shane ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Booth is set up
But there may be a problem. There are no stools. Another exhibitor nearby said they were charging $45 for a stool. But then a group for OSUOSL arrived (second booth down from us) and they told me that their information said they were to have stools. I said that we had not paid for our booth, and they replied that they did not pay for theirs either. One of the group said she spoke "Trade Show" and offered to go to the exhibitor help desk to check it out. The man behind the desk said the stools are arriving tomorrow. So now I'm assuming we'll have stools, and hoping that the first exhibitor that I talked to was wrong. If someone is around tomorrow morning it would be good to check out our booth to be sure we have something to sit on, else I can bring something when I come at 5:00. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Open Source Conceptual Equivalents to Dreamweaver
On 07/25/2011 02:29 PM, Sam Hart wrote: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Richard C. Steffens > wrote: >> So far all the web work I've done (granted that's not a huge output) has >> been from scratch; I've hand coded everything. I'm interested in >> learning what's available in the open source community that folks here >> use that would be conceptually equivalent to Dreamweaver -- a tool that >> is WYSIWYG and builds the HTML and css from what I create with it. > I've not used any of them (so I can't speak to how well they work- I > also haven't used Dreamweaver, so, there's that :-) but > AlternativeTo.net lists several: > http://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-dreamweaver/ Looks like it might be a useful place to look for other alternative tools, too. > A few FLOSS ones: > * http://aptana.com/ (actually, this looks pretty cool, I'm > bookmarking it to check it out later :-) > * http://www.kompozer.net/ > * http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html > > There's also Amaya that Mike Cherba mentioned. Thanks. I'll check these out, too. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Open Source Conceptual Equivalents to Dreamweaver
On 07/25/2011 01:23 PM, Mike Cherba wrote: > You could do a lot worse than to use the Amaya tool from W3C. It's been a > few years since I touched it, but it worked for what I needed. I do tend to > think the best work is done by hand though, rather than though a WYSIWYG > system. Heck I even prefer LaTeX to Word or Writer. > -Mike > http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/BinDist.html Thanks. I'll check it out. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Open Source Conceptual Equivalents to Dreamweaver
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote: > So far all the web work I've done (granted that's not a huge output) has > been from scratch; I've hand coded everything. I'm interested in > learning what's available in the open source community that folks here > use that would be conceptually equivalent to Dreamweaver -- a tool that > is WYSIWYG and builds the HTML and css from what I create with it. > > I'm not that interested in tools that require something extra to be on > the eventual web host. If I can run them on my local installation of > Apache without adding anything to the server that would be best. > > TIA for recommendations. I've not used any of them (so I can't speak to how well they work- I also haven't used Dreamweaver, so, there's that :-) but AlternativeTo.net lists several: http://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-dreamweaver/ A few FLOSS ones: * http://aptana.com/ (actually, this looks pretty cool, I'm bookmarking it to check it out later :-) * http://www.kompozer.net/ * http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html There's also Amaya that Mike Cherba mentioned. ---Sam ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ssh -X me@that
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 09:36 -0700, Galen Seitz wrote: > Tim Wescott wrote: > > With my latest update (to Ubuntu 11.04), I changed to Evolution from > > Thunderbird. Hopefully this'll end up being a good idea. One of the > > things that indicates that it is is that I can now remote shell into my > > work machine from my laptop and successfully run Evolution. (I used to > > be able to do this with Thunderbird but it broke over a year ago). > > While I agree that you should be able to run Thunderbird(and > Evolution) remotely, you're going to chew up bandwidth shoving > graphics over the network. Not a problem for a LAN, but painful on a > slower network. Are you running an IMAP or POP server? Why not > forward the ports you need over ssh and configure your mail client to > use the forwarded ports? > This is strictly on a LAN. I normally work out of my office in a detached garage, but find it convenient to check email before breakfast and in the evenings from the house. I'm not running any servers -- just using what's available from my ISP. -- Tim Wescott www.wescottdesign.com Control & Communications systems, circuit & software design. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Open Source Conceptual Equivalents to Dreamweaver
Dick, You could do a lot worse than to use the Amaya tool from W3C. It's been a few years since I touched it, but it worked for what I needed. I do tend to think the best work is done by hand though, rather than though a WYSIWYG system. Heck I even prefer LaTeX to Word or Writer. -Mike http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/BinDist.html On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote: > So far all the web work I've done (granted that's not a huge output) has > been from scratch; I've hand coded everything. I'm interested in > learning what's available in the open source community that folks here > use that would be conceptually equivalent to Dreamweaver -- a tool that > is WYSIWYG and builds the HTML and css from what I create with it. > > I'm not that interested in tools that require something extra to be on > the eventual web host. If I can run them on my local installation of > Apache without adding anything to the server that would be best. > > TIA for recommendations. > > -- > Regards, > > Dick Steffens > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > -- Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. -- Richard Feynman ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Open Source Conceptual Equivalents to Dreamweaver
So far all the web work I've done (granted that's not a huge output) has been from scratch; I've hand coded everything. I'm interested in learning what's available in the open source community that folks here use that would be conceptually equivalent to Dreamweaver -- a tool that is WYSIWYG and builds the HTML and css from what I create with it. I'm not that interested in tools that require something extra to be on the eventual web host. If I can run them on my local installation of Apache without adding anything to the server that would be best. TIA for recommendations. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ssh -X me@that
Tim Wescott wrote: > With my latest update (to Ubuntu 11.04), I changed to Evolution from > Thunderbird. Hopefully this'll end up being a good idea. One of the > things that indicates that it is is that I can now remote shell into my > work machine from my laptop and successfully run Evolution. (I used to > be able to do this with Thunderbird but it broke over a year ago). While I agree that you should be able to run Thunderbird(and Evolution) remotely, you're going to chew up bandwidth shoving graphics over the network. Not a problem for a LAN, but painful on a slower network. Are you running an IMAP or POP server? Why not forward the ports you need over ssh and configure your mail client to use the forwarded ports? -- Galen Seitz gal...@seitzassoc.com ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Setting ADSL Bandwidth
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011, Mike Connors wrote: > Assuming of course, the copper infrastructure from your modem to the telco > is actually capable of supporting that b-width speed you requested. Mike, I requested 3M/768K because my location will not support the maximum of 7M/768K. Aracnet checked with Frontier (on line) to find the maximum for here. > But at the very least, if they told you the change shouldn't take more > than 48 hrs, as a matter of good customer service they should've > communicated to why it's taken over a week. I've had excellent service from Aracnet for more than a dozen years so I assume they've not had a response to their follow up ticket with Frontier or I would have been informed. Frontier does not impress me. When they installed FIOS cable a year or two ago, they ran the cable to my neighbor's house in the middle of the strip between their driveway and mine. Directly under the trunks of a couple of sweet gum trees that we had cut down a couple of months ago. When the stump grinder went to work (assuming the cable was off to the side; apperently he did not call for locator service), the fiber optic cable got chewed up. The replacement crew admitted it was originally poorly placed; the stump grinder said he had never cut a cable in the 20 years he's been in business. When the next-to-last Frontier crew came to re-route the newly installed replacement fiber, the did put it deep and against the edge of my neighbor's driveway ... and broke their drain pipe from house gutters to the street. So, another Frontier crew was called out to replace the drain pipe. Since Frontier's technical service business model seems to be based on the Keystone Kops, I should not be surprised the banswidth upgrade has not yet been accomplished. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Setting ADSL Bandwidth
> > Robert> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 06:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Rich Shepard wrote: > >> Last Monday I upgraded my Aracnet account to the maximum bandwidth > >> that Frontier reports for my location (3M down, 768K up). The > >> change was supposed to take no longer than 48 hours. It is now a > >> week and my bandwidth has not incresed (according to > >> speedtest.net). > I've provisioned DSL services before. Generally speaking, a b-wdith upgrade is relatively quick and easy provisioning change once the change order has made it to the technician. Assuming of course, the copper infrastructure from your modem to the telco is actually capable of supporting that b-width speed you requested. If it's been a week, there might be some administrative glitch or as someone already mentioned your request may have necessitated an infrastructure upgrade to accommodate the additional b-width you requested. Which although is certainly a possibility, in my opinion is a bit of an engineering failure. We did a monthly review of all our circuit/equipment bandwidth capacity and tried to have enough additional capacity available for b-width upgrade requests. But at the very least, if they told you the change shouldn't take more than 48 hrs, as a matter of good customer service they should've communicated to why it's taken over a week. It's also possible they processed the change order, and it's complete according them, but the provisioning may not be correct. It happens a lot more than any of us work in the telco/ISP biz like to admit... ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ssh -X me@that
Hello there,
: With my latest update (to Ubuntu 11.04), I changed to Evolution
: from Thunderbird. Hopefully this'll end up being a good idea.
: One of the things that indicates that it is is that I can now
: remote shell into my work machine from my laptop and successfully
: run Evolution. (I used to be able to do this with Thunderbird
: but it broke over a year ago).
:
: However, when I do this and run an X program from the command
: line, on the route back to my local shell I have to type 'exit'
: at the remote shell, but then I get hung in some sort of limbo,
: and also have to do a control-C to get my command line back.
:
: Is there an easy fix? One that's easier than just hitting
: control-C every time?
The answer is yes. There are quite a few command-line options to
ssh, so I can understand why you might not know which to choose.
Here's my typical invocation of an X application that I run on a
different machine.
ssh -f -C -Y -c blowfish -l "${USER}" "${REMOTE_HOST}" "proggie"
-f background after pass{phrase,word}
-C compression (probably not necessary on a LAN)
-c choose a cipher
-Y use X-forwarding
-lalternate username
Good luck,
-Martin
--
Martin A. Brown
http://linux-ip.net/
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