Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-11-03 Thread C W
Jen,
>From what people have said so far in this thread, it looks like all of the
VOIP service providers have problems at times, but work most of the time.
And, Ooma is similar to the others in that way (Quality Of Service).  But,
compared to the other providers, Ooma costs less in the long run.

Cheers,
Elcaset

On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:41 AM, jen montserrat wrote:

> Great post everyone, got my interest in an alternative to get rid of land
> line monthly costs.  How would you rate the Qos with Ooma?
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Scott Garman 
> wrote:
>
> > On 10/28/2011 07:12 PM, C W wrote:
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma
> > >   Anybody here familiar with Ooma?
> >
> > I switched from Vonage to Ooma this year. Never had any issues with
> > Vonage, but with Ooma I have occasionally had audio quality issues, and
> > even dropped calls. Not fun when I work from home most days and am
> > dropping from a conference call.
> >
> > About a month ago I was considering going back to Vonage, but things
> > have been stable since then, so I'm willing to take the risk until I run
> > into problems again.
> >
> > Scott
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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-11-03 Thread C W
Jen,
>From what people have said so far in this thread, it looks like all of the
VOIP service providers have problems at times, but work most of the time.
And, Ooma is similar to the others in that way (Quality Of Service).  But,
compared to the other providers, Ooma costs less in the long run.

Cheers,
Elcaset

On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:41 AM, jen montserrat wrote:

> Great post everyone, got my interest in an alternative to get rid of land
> line monthly costs.  How would you rate the Qos with Ooma?
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Scott Garman 
> wrote:
>
> > On 10/28/2011 07:12 PM, C W wrote:
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma
> > >   Anybody here familiar with Ooma?
> >
> > I switched from Vonage to Ooma this year. Never had any issues with
> > Vonage, but with Ooma I have occasionally had audio quality issues, and
> > even dropped calls. Not fun when I work from home most days and am
> > dropping from a conference call.
> >
> > About a month ago I was considering going back to Vonage, but things
> > have been stable since then, so I'm willing to take the risk until I run
> > into problems again.
> >
> > Scott
> >
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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-11-01 Thread jen montserrat
Great post everyone, got my interest in an alternative to get rid of land
line monthly costs.  How would you rate the Qos with Ooma?

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Scott Garman  wrote:

> On 10/28/2011 07:12 PM, C W wrote:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma
> >   Anybody here familiar with Ooma?
>
> I switched from Vonage to Ooma this year. Never had any issues with
> Vonage, but with Ooma I have occasionally had audio quality issues, and
> even dropped calls. Not fun when I work from home most days and am
> dropping from a conference call.
>
> About a month ago I was considering going back to Vonage, but things
> have been stable since then, so I'm willing to take the risk until I run
> into problems again.
>
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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-29 Thread C W
Thanks Neal, very good to hear Ooma is working well for ya.  I think I'm
going to switch us to Ooma.   Also, that info you sent on using the house
phone wiring should come in very handy.

Cheers,
Elcaset

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Neal  wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:21 PM, C W  wrote:
> > How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house
> to
> > one Ooma line?
>
> Same as any other VOIP line.
>
> Use the existing house wiring AFTER disconnecting from the external
> telephone network at the NID:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_interface_device
> http://www.homephonewiring.com/nid.html
>
> Open the NID (regular screwdriver required) and unplug what look like
> short phone cord loopback cables plugged into "TEST" jacks. This
> isolates your inside wiring from the phone company.
>
> Plug the Ooma / Vonage box into any telephone jack near an internet
> feed, hook it up to the internet, plug in the power adapter and there
> ya go, at least in theory.
>
> I've had Ooma since Woot ran a special six months ago. Over this time
> it has worked fairly well, at least as well as the Comcast cable modem
> service. I think I've only had to power cycle the Ooma box once or
> twice when it wasn't a Comcast issue. The taxes-only minimum service
> is missing a couple things I really miss but not enough to upgrade to
> the $120/year Premier service. The thing I miss most is voicemail
> email forwarding.
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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-29 Thread Neal
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:21 PM, C W  wrote:
> How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house to
> one Ooma line?

Same as any other VOIP line.

Use the existing house wiring AFTER disconnecting from the external
telephone network at the NID:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_interface_device
http://www.homephonewiring.com/nid.html

Open the NID (regular screwdriver required) and unplug what look like
short phone cord loopback cables plugged into "TEST" jacks. This
isolates your inside wiring from the phone company.

Plug the Ooma / Vonage box into any telephone jack near an internet
feed, hook it up to the internet, plug in the power adapter and there
ya go, at least in theory.

I've had Ooma since Woot ran a special six months ago. Over this time
it has worked fairly well, at least as well as the Comcast cable modem
service. I think I've only had to power cycle the Ooma box once or
twice when it wasn't a Comcast issue. The taxes-only minimum service
is missing a couple things I really miss but not enough to upgrade to
the $120/year Premier service. The thing I miss most is voicemail
email forwarding.

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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-29 Thread C W
We've had & continue to have a lot of Comcast service outages where we lose
internet, telly, & phone.  The internet goes out most often, then comes the
telly, then the phone service.  When we call Comcast about it, they act as
if that's normal, & want to charge us extra to come fix it!

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Tom Sharples  wrote:

>
> We used Vonage for years and years, but the quality and reliability got
> really bad so I switched to Comcast VOIP. They use a separate dedicated
> network, and it's best voice service I've ever had.
>
> Tom S.
>
>
> On 10/28/2011 9:21 PM, C W wrote:
> > Scott,
> > Thanks for the feedback.  Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality
> > than mobile phone service, so I can live with that.  Especially since
> Ooma's
> > monthly charge is extremely low.
> >
> > How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house
> to
> > one Ooma line?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Elcaset
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Scott Garman
>  wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/28/2011 07:12 PM, C W wrote:
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma
> >>>Anybody here familiar with Ooma?
> >> I switched from Vonage to Ooma this year. Never had any issues with
> >> Vonage, but with Ooma I have occasionally had audio quality issues, and
> >> even dropped calls. Not fun when I work from home most days and am
> >> dropping from a conference call.
> >>
> >> About a month ago I was considering going back to Vonage, but things
> >> have been stable since then, so I'm willing to take the risk until I run
> >> into problems again.
> >>
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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-28 Thread Tom Sharples

We used Vonage for years and years, but the quality and reliability got 
really bad so I switched to Comcast VOIP. They use a separate dedicated 
network, and it's best voice service I've ever had.

Tom S.


On 10/28/2011 9:21 PM, C W wrote:
> Scott,
> Thanks for the feedback.  Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality
> than mobile phone service, so I can live with that.  Especially since Ooma's
> monthly charge is extremely low.
>
> How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house to
> one Ooma line?
>
> Cheers,
> Elcaset
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Scott Garman  wrote:
>
>> On 10/28/2011 07:12 PM, C W wrote:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma
>>>Anybody here familiar with Ooma?
>> I switched from Vonage to Ooma this year. Never had any issues with
>> Vonage, but with Ooma I have occasionally had audio quality issues, and
>> even dropped calls. Not fun when I work from home most days and am
>> dropping from a conference call.
>>
>> About a month ago I was considering going back to Vonage, but things
>> have been stable since then, so I'm willing to take the risk until I run
>> into problems again.
>>
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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-28 Thread C W
Yes, that's the same situation I'm in.  Except that I'm in Kirkland, near
Seattle.  That's how we get screwed when Comcast "bundles" things.  However,
once I get a voip setup to my family's liking, I'm getting rid of Comcast
altogether.  We are looking for an ISP,  & telly service provider, as well.
I'm happy to just use free over-the-air digital telly with antennas, but the
rest of the family is hooked on certain "cable" channels.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Russell Johnson  wrote:

> Gah! I want to quit using Comcast for my landline. But when I call them to
> check out pricing, I find that my cable bill will go UP if I discontinue
> telephone service.
>
> What a racket!
>
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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-28 Thread Russell Johnson
Gah! I want to quit using Comcast for my landline. But when I call them to 
check out pricing, I find that my cable bill will go UP if I discontinue 
telephone service. 

What a racket!

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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-28 Thread C W
oops, I meant to type "linking", not "lining" in the previous post.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:13 PM, C W  wrote:

> ===If you have a cordless phone setup with several handsets, you can plug
>
> your base station into the Ooma and have as many handsets as you want.
> That would be the simplest approach.
>
> Well, I do have a 3 handset cordless phone that would work on that, but I
> prefer to spend most of my phone time on a corded phone.  I bet there's a
> way to fool Ooma into thinking several phones are one phone by lining
> together all of the phones via couplers & long phone cords.  If I can do
> that, that would be great!
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Scott Garman wrote:
>
>> On 10/28/2011 09:21 PM, C W wrote:
>> > Scott,
>> > Thanks for the feedback.  Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality
>> > than mobile phone service, so I can live with that.  Especially since
>> Ooma's
>> > monthly charge is extremely low.
>>
>> Yep, which is why I really would prefer to stick with them if I can. My
>> cost comes to $3.47/mo now.
>>
>> > How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same
>> house to
>> > one Ooma line?
>>
>> If you have a cordless phone setup with several handsets, you can plug
>> your base station into the Ooma and have as many handsets as you want.
>> That would be the simplest approach.
>>
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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-28 Thread C W
===If you have a cordless phone setup with several handsets, you can plug
your base station into the Ooma and have as many handsets as you want.
That would be the simplest approach.

Well, I do have a 3 handset cordless phone that would work on that, but I
prefer to spend most of my phone time on a corded phone.  I bet there's a
way to fool Ooma into thinking several phones are one phone by lining
together all of the phones via couplers & long phone cords.  If I can do
that, that would be great!

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Scott Garman  wrote:

> On 10/28/2011 09:21 PM, C W wrote:
> > Scott,
> > Thanks for the feedback.  Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality
> > than mobile phone service, so I can live with that.  Especially since
> Ooma's
> > monthly charge is extremely low.
>
> Yep, which is why I really would prefer to stick with them if I can. My
> cost comes to $3.47/mo now.
>
> > How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house
> to
> > one Ooma line?
>
> If you have a cordless phone setup with several handsets, you can plug
> your base station into the Ooma and have as many handsets as you want.
> That would be the simplest approach.
>
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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-28 Thread Scott Garman
On 10/28/2011 09:21 PM, C W wrote:
> Scott,
> Thanks for the feedback.  Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality
> than mobile phone service, so I can live with that.  Especially since Ooma's
> monthly charge is extremely low.

Yep, which is why I really would prefer to stick with them if I can. My 
cost comes to $3.47/mo now.

> How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house to
> one Ooma line?

If you have a cordless phone setup with several handsets, you can plug 
your base station into the Ooma and have as many handsets as you want. 
That would be the simplest approach.

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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-28 Thread C W
I'm not familiar with callcentric.  I'll have to check it out.  Although,
it's hard to compete with Ooma's monthly rate.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Larry Brigman wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:21 PM, C W  wrote:
>
> > Scott,
> > Thanks for the feedback.  Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality
> > than mobile phone service, so I can live with that.  Especially since
> > Ooma's
> > monthly charge is extremely low.
> >
> > How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house
> > to
> > one Ooma line?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Elcaset
> >
> I have a friend that uses callcentric and wouldn't go to anything else now.
>
>
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Scott Garman 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/28/2011 07:12 PM, C W wrote:
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma
> > > >   Anybody here familiar with Ooma?
> > >
> > > I switched from Vonage to Ooma this year. Never had any issues with
> > > Vonage, but with Ooma I have occasionally had audio quality issues, and
> > > even dropped calls. Not fun when I work from home most days and am
> > > dropping from a conference call.
> > >
> > > About a month ago I was considering going back to Vonage, but things
> > > have been stable since then, so I'm willing to take the risk until I
> run
> > > into problems again.
> > >
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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-28 Thread Larry Brigman
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:21 PM, C W  wrote:

> Scott,
> Thanks for the feedback.  Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality
> than mobile phone service, so I can live with that.  Especially since
> Ooma's
> monthly charge is extremely low.
>
> How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house
> to
> one Ooma line?
>
> Cheers,
> Elcaset
>
I have a friend that uses callcentric and wouldn't go to anything else now.


>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Scott Garman 
> wrote:
>
> > On 10/28/2011 07:12 PM, C W wrote:
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma
> > >   Anybody here familiar with Ooma?
> >
> > I switched from Vonage to Ooma this year. Never had any issues with
> > Vonage, but with Ooma I have occasionally had audio quality issues, and
> > even dropped calls. Not fun when I work from home most days and am
> > dropping from a conference call.
> >
> > About a month ago I was considering going back to Vonage, but things
> > have been stable since then, so I'm willing to take the risk until I run
> > into problems again.
> >
> > Scott
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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-28 Thread C W
Scott,
Thanks for the feedback.  Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality
than mobile phone service, so I can live with that.  Especially since Ooma's
monthly charge is extremely low.

How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house to
one Ooma line?

Cheers,
Elcaset

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Scott Garman  wrote:

> On 10/28/2011 07:12 PM, C W wrote:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma
> >   Anybody here familiar with Ooma?
>
> I switched from Vonage to Ooma this year. Never had any issues with
> Vonage, but with Ooma I have occasionally had audio quality issues, and
> even dropped calls. Not fun when I work from home most days and am
> dropping from a conference call.
>
> About a month ago I was considering going back to Vonage, but things
> have been stable since then, so I'm willing to take the risk until I run
> into problems again.
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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-28 Thread Scott Garman
On 10/28/2011 07:12 PM, C W wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma
>   Anybody here familiar with Ooma?

I switched from Vonage to Ooma this year. Never had any issues with 
Vonage, but with Ooma I have occasionally had audio quality issues, and 
even dropped calls. Not fun when I work from home most days and am 
dropping from a conference call.

About a month ago I was considering going back to Vonage, but things 
have been stable since then, so I'm willing to take the risk until I run 
into problems again.

Scott

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Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, & Ooma

2011-10-28 Thread C W
Thanks Aaron, & everyone else, for the info.  I do make calls to Canada on a
regular basis.  Also, I spend a lot of time on an old-style corded phone
with domestic calls from home (way too much time for daytime cell phone
minutes).  So, if I could make these cisco ATAs work with a free service
like Skype (not SIP), or something like Ekiga (which is SIP, but doesn't
work well), that would be great for me.  Also, once or if I'm convinced that
Ooma  works well, I will buy that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma
 Anybody here familiar with Ooma?

Cheers,
Elcaset

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Aaron Burt  wrote:

> (netiquette note: when starting a new discussion, start a new thread kthx)
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 08:40:30PM -0700, C W wrote:
> > I was given 2 Cisco Analog Telephone Adapters.  There are both model
> > 186/188.  I'm wondering what I can use them for, & if they use SIP?
>
> Google sez Cisco sez they're SIP.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cata/186_188/2_15/english/administration/guide/sip/SIP88CH1.html
>
> You can use them to attach analog phones (e.g. yer typical cordless phone,
> or even a FAX machine) to an Asterisk server or a VoIP service (such as
> CallCentric.)
>
> If you have a cellphone and don't make or receive international calls from
> home much, you probably don't have much use for one.
>
> Note the international angle: immigrants with internet at home would be
> well served by someone with ATAs or hardphones and some VoIP knowledge.
> Currently, they use cheezy calling cards and by-the-minute cellphones.
>
> The fact that you can get local numbers in major cities around the world
> means that their families could call them back cheaply, too.
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