power control (was sleep mode)
I just saw the lightning bolt again and what it says is: Maximum performance mode Does this sound like something Jupiter does? On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: hey, I just woke my computer up and a box appeared in the center of the bottom of my screen with a lightning bolt and the words 'system at optimum performance' (or something similar). So it looks as if Jupiter is running I just can't control it. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: that's what I thought. p and a box pulled mputer up On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Could the problem be that I am running LinuxMint and not Ubuntu? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: the lightning bolt didn't show up anywhere. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: thanks stephen t On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: your making this much harder than it needs to be. They have an Ubuntu install option that does not entail useing an RPM http://www.jupiterapplet.org/downloads.html there is ubuntu. wich takes you to https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/jupiterhttps://launchpad.net/%7Ewebupd8team/+archive/jupiter repo add insturctioyns from the same page: https://launchpad.net/+help-soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html they then have instructions on how to add the repo which you cna then use apt-get or my favorite aptitude to install. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for inspiring me. My system is Ubuntu based so first I had to google for converting RPM to deb and I found Alien. So I run alien and it runs successfuly (I think). But no lightning bolt anywhere to be seen! Any ideas what I did wrong? bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ sudo alien -i * warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package jupiter: postinst Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts. warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY dpkg --no-force-overwrite -i jupiter_0.0.51-4_all.deb Selecting previously deselected package jupiter. (Reading database ... 172494 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking jupiter (from jupiter_0.0.51-4_all.deb) ... Setting up jupiter (0.0.51-4) ... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ... Processing triggers for gnome-menus ... Processing triggers for bamfdaemon ... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.index... bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ sudo updatedb bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ locate jupiter* /home/bmike1/Downloads/jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm /home/bmike1/Programs/Jupiter/jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ jupiter jupiter: command not found bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Brian Weaver bjwea...@gmail.com wrote: Try this.. :) http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+install+a+linux+RPM On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: well, I extracted the rpm and go
Re: stretched screen
On 11/30/2011 08:37 PM, Michael Havens wrote: I was playing a game and after I closed the game the screen was stretched. I tried 'system settings' but it was too basic. I googled 'linux mint 12 screen stretch' But that didn't tell me anything... Then I figured I would restart it and see if that would fix it and it did. Any idea how I can fix it without the restart? I know we're using different distros, but crtl+alt with + or - on the numbers pad works in openSuse. HTH, Mark Z. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: stretched screen
well... what it did is make it look like a square monitor is in my wide screen. I'll try your method if it happens again. Thanks for the help. I know we're using different distros, but crtl+alt with + or - on the numbers pad works in openSuse. HTH, Mark Z. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: stretched screen
lspci says this about the video: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9804 'X.org video driver' is the only information I can find about the video driver On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: Drivers probably aren't working right and probing the right resolutions from the display. Check your drivers in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log. What kind of video is it? If ati/nvidia, you'll want to install the proprietary blob drivers to get any level of performance and features. -mb On 11/30/2011 08:44 PM, James Mcphee wrote: xrandr --auto ? On Nov 30, 2011 8:37 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I was playing a game and after I closed the game the screen was stretched. I tried 'system settings' but it was too basic. I googled 'linux mint 12 screen stretch' But that didn't tell me anything... Then I figured I would restart it and see if that would fix it and it did. Any idea how I can fix it without the restart? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**plug.phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Linux losing popularity fast. New Unity interface to blame? | Royal Pingdom
I just started using 11.10 and Unity and the only thing I find annoying is hiding the File, Edit, etc menu and minimize, close buttons until you hover over themand that I needed to know ctrl-alt-t opens a terminal... On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: Correct, though those came long after it'd already nauseated me the first time. When I needed to compile everything I needed anyways, slack was a much better option - in 1999. Fast forward to 2007, the last time I purposely had to deal with RHEL, my experiences were not all that dissimilar. Much of the software I use is of a network monitoring nature (snmp, perl, pgsql), and for better or worse a lot of dependencies that simply didn't exist in repos. I ended up having to compile a lot of things, and still fell into weird linking errors to things that were simply never an issue in ubuntu whether I had to roll my own or not. It was just as cranky as it was 7 years prior. Perhaps I'm a bit grizzled and stubborn, but I really don't get why I or my companies should use RH or its ilk. It's always felt... solaris-ish - day late, dollar short. With ubuntu on the poop list these days too, I need to rediscover new/old options so maybe I'll see what the rpm loving world has to offer these days. -mb On 11/30/2011 11:47 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 11/30/2011 05:05 PM, Michael Butash wrote: I've used every version of ubuntu since 6.04 on the desktop (and extensive server) full-time, and while it's always been a bit cranky, it was always the most together and solid linux. Packaging was simply never a problem, nor were dependencies (ahem, redhat and spawn). Ahem. 1995 called, they want their FUD back. Package dependencies has not been a problem since up2date first, and now yum. TC --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: SSD and EMP
moin moin, discussing things at work and EMPs came up. It was almost on topic :). Anyway, an EMP would knock out data on hard drives, would it not? A co-worker says SSD is not magnetic, so would not be affected by an EMP. Is that correct? ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # It is appallingly obvious that our technology exceeds our humanity. # -- Einstein --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Linux losing popularity fast. New Unity interface to blame? | Royal Pingdom
Agreed - that was one of the first things I killed: sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt Just reverse that to put it back if you really miss the stupid mac-like behavior. Biggest reason for me to be rid of it is I can't spawn unity menus on each framebuffer set, so nothing on my second monitor set had menus... Brilliant! This was a good find for making oneiric suck less: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html -mb On 12/01/2011 11:34 AM, Ariel Gold wrote: I just started using 11.10 and Unity and the only thing I find annoying is hiding the File, Edit, etc menu and minimize, close buttons until you hover over themand that I needed to know ctrl-alt-t opens a terminal... On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net mailto:mich...@butash.net wrote: Correct, though those came long after it'd already nauseated me the first time. When I needed to compile everything I needed anyways, slack was a much better option - in 1999. Fast forward to 2007, the last time I purposely had to deal with RHEL, my experiences were not all that dissimilar. Much of the software I use is of a network monitoring nature (snmp, perl, pgsql), and for better or worse a lot of dependencies that simply didn't exist in repos. I ended up having to compile a lot of things, and still fell into weird linking errors to things that were simply never an issue in ubuntu whether I had to roll my own or not. It was just as cranky as it was 7 years prior. Perhaps I'm a bit grizzled and stubborn, but I really don't get why I or my companies should use RH or its ilk. It's always felt... solaris-ish - day late, dollar short. With ubuntu on the poop list these days too, I need to rediscover new/old options so maybe I'll see what the rpm loving world has to offer these days. -mb On 11/30/2011 11:47 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 11/30/2011 05:05 PM, Michael Butash wrote: I've used every version of ubuntu since 6.04 on the desktop (and extensive server) full-time, and while it's always been a bit cranky, it was always the most together and solid linux. Packaging was simply never a problem, nor were dependencies (ahem, redhat and spawn). Ahem. 1995 called, they want their FUD back. Package dependencies has not been a problem since up2date first, and now yum. TC --__- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.__phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.__us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__discuss http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --__- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.__phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.__us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__discuss http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SSD and EMP
I know one way to find out: take an SSD full of data out of it's computer and put it between a couple of hard disk magnets... Jim On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:56 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, discussing things at work and EMPs came up. It was almost on topic :). Anyway, an EMP would knock out data on hard drives, would it not? A co-worker says SSD is not magnetic, so would not be affected by an EMP. Is that correct? ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # It is appallingly obvious that our technology exceeds our humanity. # -- Einstein --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: compress pictures
From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com That's tar cjf images.tar.bz2 images/ to create compressed tarballs of everything in the images/ dir. Replace tar cjf with tar xjf to uncompress. I want to keep the original files I'm going to compress. tar as invoked with c above won't delete or change the files it's turning into a compressed tarball. the man file it looks as if I should use the option '--backup'. Not really. or should I just copy the directories I want to archive? Unnecessary. Try creating a tarball on a dir with some files you don't care about and see. when I append these files from the top level directory will it append the files under it as well? Appending files to a compressed tar file probably won't do what you want. Remember that tar was originally a TapeARchiver , and tapes aren't seekable in the way disks are, and the way it works makes a bit more sense. If you want to make a compressed archive and change it often, zip would probably be easier than tar. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SSD and EMP
Not magnetic per se, but I think an emp would kill it for the same reason static discharge will fry an IC, of which it has plenty. I'll bet the nand flash doesn't get along with EM very well either. -mb On 12/01/2011 11:56 AM, der.hans wrote: moin moin, discussing things at work and EMPs came up. It was almost on topic :). Anyway, an EMP would knock out data on hard drives, would it not? A co-worker says SSD is not magnetic, so would not be affected by an EMP. Is that correct? ciao, der.hans --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SSD and EMP
That begs the question - if the device you store your data on is not effected by an emp what will you read it with? And how will you use the data? Every part of our computers will be effected - destroyed. Keith Smith --- On Thu, 12/1/11, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: From: der.hans pl...@lufthans.com Subject: OT: SSD and EMP To: quatsch PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011, 11:56 AM moin moin, discussing things at work and EMPs came up. It was almost on topic :). Anyway, an EMP would knock out data on hard drives, would it not? A co-worker says SSD is not magnetic, so would not be affected by an EMP. Is that correct? ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # It is appallingly obvious that our technology exceeds our humanity. # -- Einstein --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SSD and EMP
EMPs affect more than just magnetic media. If the EMP puts a high enough electric field across the flash cells, it can erase/write the SSD too. Magnets won't affect SSDs. Flash memory is electric field based. Eric On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote: I know one way to find out: take an SSD full of data out of it's computer and put it between a couple of hard disk magnets... Jim On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:56 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, discussing things at work and EMPs came up. It was almost on topic :). Anyway, an EMP would knock out data on hard drives, would it not? A co-worker says SSD is not magnetic, so would not be affected by an EMP. Is that correct? ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # It is appallingly obvious that our technology exceeds our humanity. # -- Einstein --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: stretched screen
Go here, get the blob: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx Download to your home directory. Enable f-lock, Hit Ctrl-Alt-F1, login, sudo service lightdm stop to kill the desktop, sudo sh `ls ati*`, walk through it, reboot. After reboot just go into system/properties in the ATI application and configure the display like windoze there. Google ati driver linux install for more detail. You can make packages as well that are more apt-friendly to update, but not sure mint is supported like ubuntu. -mb On 12/01/2011 11:02 AM, Michael Havens wrote: lspci says this about the video: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9804 'X.org video driver' is the only information I can find about the video driver On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net mailto:mich...@butash.net wrote: Drivers probably aren't working right and probing the right resolutions from the display. Check your drivers in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log. What kind of video is it? If ati/nvidia, you'll want to install the proprietary blob drivers to get any level of performance and features. -mb On 11/30/2011 08:44 PM, James Mcphee wrote: xrandr --auto ? On Nov 30, 2011 8:37 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I was playing a game and after I closed the game the screen was stretched. I tried 'system settings' but it was too basic. I googled 'linux mint 12 screen stretch' But that didn't tell me anything... Then I figured I would restart it and see if that would fix it and it did. Any idea how I can fix it without the restart? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --__- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.__phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.__plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.__us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__discuss http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --__- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.__phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.__us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__discuss http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --__- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.__phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.__us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__discuss http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Linux losing popularity fast. New Unity interface to blame? | Royal Pingdom
On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 12:12 -0700, Michael Butash wrote: Agreed - that was one of the first things I killed: sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt Just reverse that to put it back if you really miss the stupid mac-like behavior. Biggest reason for me to be rid of it is I can't spawn unity menus on each framebuffer set, so nothing on my second monitor set had menus... Brilliant! This was a good find for making oneiric suck less: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html Canonical started with Gnome3, and got upset about Gnome-Shell, so decided to write their own to fix what they perceived as a problem. To me, this was just as successful as the government fixing the drug problem. Therefore, many of the problems you prerceive are actually Gnome GTK issues, not Unity. One of the biggest mistakes Canonical made was going it alone with Unity, instead of working within. So, for example, the menus disappeared in Gnome-Shell, but others worked within the system to fix the problem, and extensions now exist... For Shell. I have a places menu, and a desktops menu on my bar, but I decided to not enable the applications menu. I may try docky next to get my launchbar back again. I know the buttons disappeared on Gnome-Shell, but again, I think this was a GTK change, not a Shell change. So... Unity probably got caught up in it. I turned the min/max buttons back on for a while with a gconf setting (I have since turned it off, forced myself to use the new paradigm, and retrained myself to the point where I don't miss it any more because I am more productive using the new way). To turn the menus back on your windows, look in GConf. To turn you min/max buttons on, also look in GConf. You may need to go directly into the editor, since Canonical decided you don't need these settings (OK, I guess I am just getting cranky now, and need to stop). Kevin --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SSD and EMP
From: keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com That [raises] the question - if the device you store your data on is not [affected] by an EMP what will you read it with? And how will you use the data? Every part of our computers will be [affected] - destroyed. This is why the discerning paranoiacs always keep a spare laptop inside a Faraday cage in case of nearby nuclear weapons tests. :-P -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
determining processor
1- I D/L a distribution 2- because I have no RW DVDs I burn the CD version 3- I install the CD version 4- After running the the install there is an ICON that says 'upgrade to the DVD' so I upgrade 5- my system starts to panic when running off of the battery so it is wisely suggested to upgrade my kernel. So I am doing so it asks me what kernel I am running. It had been said on the list that my kernel is the 64 bit kind but when I tried to upgrade to the 64bit kernel the computer complained and said 'wrong architecture'. 6- I installed the kernel for the i386 and have been happily running it now for a couple of days Questions: Was I supposed to do something to make it see that it is a 64? Would it run if an i386 was installed on a 64? Does it really matter? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Linux losing popularity fast. New Unity interface to blame? | Royal Pingdom
On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 12:12 -0700, Michael Butash wrote: Biggest reason for me to be rid of it is I can't spawn unity menus on each framebuffer set, so nothing on my second monitor set had menus... Brilliant! Yup, that sucks. It's on the list of things to fix as part of the multimonitor work going on for 12.04. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-multi-monitor --Ted signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Linux losing popularity fast. New Unity interface to blame? | Royal Pingdom
On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 12:36 -0700, Kevin Fries wrote: Canonical started with Gnome3, and got upset about Gnome-Shell, so decided to write their own to fix what they perceived as a problem. Just to clear up some factual inaccuracies here. What is now Unity started as Netbook Launcher and pre-dates GNOME Shell. I, along with several other Canonical employees, attended the GNOME design sprint where GNOME Shell was born and we decided to stick with the path we were on instead of adopting that one. Later we ported Unity to the GNOME3/GTK3 stack after it was released and mostly stable. --Ted signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: determining processor
Michael, Linux is nothing if not a chatty beast ;-) To find out everything you every wanted to know about your CPU, you can look at /proc/cpuinfo. My system I am on right now is a System76 Lemur, and it runs a I3 mobile. If I look in that file, I will see: vendor_id : GenuineIntel model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU U 330 @ 1.20GHz cpu MHz : 1199.000 among other things. But the real keys to the kingdom is a field called FLAGS. flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt lahf_lm arat dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid You Google those flags and you will find out EXACTLY what your CPU does and does not support. So, to answer your question specifically, I look in the flags and see a flag lm, which stands for long mode which is uber-geek speak for 64bit mode. And sure enough, my system is running Ubuntu 11.10 in 64 bit mode. Hope this Helps Kevin On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 12:38 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: 1- I D/L a distribution 2- because I have no RW DVDs I burn the CD version 3- I install the CD version 4- After running the the install there is an ICON that says 'upgrade to the DVD' so I upgrade 5- my system starts to panic when running off of the battery so it is wisely suggested to upgrade my kernel. So I am doing so it asks me what kernel I am running. It had been said on the list that my kernel is the 64 bit kind but when I tried to upgrade to the 64bit kernel the computer complained and said 'wrong architecture'. 6- I installed the kernel for the i386 and have been happily running it now for a couple of days Questions: Was I supposed to do something to make it see that it is a 64? Would it run if an i386 was installed on a 64? Does it really matter? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Linux losing popularity fast. New Unity interface to blame? | Royal Pingdom
If you look at the general pattern of linux-based netbook's, I think they were somewhat ill-received because they tried the captive portal/single-pane approach. I bought an Asus EEEBox to use as a portable server, but I played with the interface before nuking it. It was horribly inadequate/crippled for desktop use forcing a single pane without windowing, and was kludgy compared to true touch-based device it was trying to emulate. Worked great with ubuntu server with text on it though once I nuked the disks. :) Fist time I saw unity, I thought good god, someone thought that eee linux interface was a good idea. Then somehow gnome shell fell inline too. I guess the non-oldschool linux geeks probably want something more ipod-ish (eww), but I think the general decline of ubuntu users (directly inverse to mint's rise) and intertube outrage toward unity/gshell says enough that this is NOT what current linux users want. That said, microsoft is again playing catchup (again) to this linux trend - last time i saw images of win8, it looks like unity/gshell too. Just like vista looked way too much like compiz/beryl by the time it came out. Either way, I suppose everything will just mimic an ipod for saleability to cattle soon regardless. Everyone else will still be using gnome2 forks with xp vm's like our cranky old parents still clinging to the good old days. /me pounds cane on the floor and looks for dentures -mb On 12/01/2011 12:46 PM, Ted Gould wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 12:36 -0700, Kevin Fries wrote: Canonical started with Gnome3, and got upset about Gnome-Shell, so decided to write their own to fix what they perceived as a problem. Just to clear up some factual inaccuracies here. What is now Unity started as Netbook Launcher and pre-dates GNOME Shell. I, along with several other Canonical employees, attended the GNOME design sprint where GNOME Shell was born and we decided to stick with the path we were on instead of adopting that one. Later we ported Unity to the GNOME3/GTK3 stack after it was released and mostly stable. --Ted --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: determining processor
Thanks Kevin. I see in my cpuinfo flags that I support long mode too. But why, when I tried to install that in the kernel, did it complain until I put in the 32 bit version? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Kevin Fries ke...@fries-biro.com wrote: Michael, Linux is nothing if not a chatty beast ;-) To find out everything you every wanted to know about your CPU, you can look at /proc/cpuinfo. My system I am on right now is a System76 Lemur, and it runs a I3 mobile. If I look in that file, I will see: vendor_id : GenuineIntel model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU U 330 @ 1.20GHz cpu MHz : 1199.000 among other things. But the real keys to the kingdom is a field called FLAGS. flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt lahf_lm arat dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid You Google those flags and you will find out EXACTLY what your CPU does and does not support. So, to answer your question specifically, I look in the flags and see a flag lm, which stands for long mode which is uber-geek speak for 64bit mode. And sure enough, my system is running Ubuntu 11.10 in 64 bit mode. Hope this Helps Kevin On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 12:38 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: 1- I D/L a distribution 2- because I have no RW DVDs I burn the CD version 3- I install the CD version 4- After running the the install there is an ICON that says 'upgrade to the DVD' so I upgrade 5- my system starts to panic when running off of the battery so it is wisely suggested to upgrade my kernel. So I am doing so it asks me what kernel I am running. It had been said on the list that my kernel is the 64 bit kind but when I tried to upgrade to the 64bit kernel the computer complained and said 'wrong architecture'. 6- I installed the kernel for the i386 and have been happily running it now for a couple of days Questions: Was I supposed to do something to make it see that it is a 64? Would it run if an i386 was installed on a 64? Does it really matter? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SSD and EMP
This is correct. EMP will kill SSD easier than even the chips or magnetic media. This is primarily because EMP will induce a capacitive load in the floating gate of the NAND cell; this will turn every bit in the chip to a '1'. SSD floating gate charge is extremely small, so it doesn't take much of an EMP to wipe the devices. Place any *unshielded* SSD within 3 meters of a 1000KV power line for a couple seconds and you'll see the same effect. That said, many actual internal SSD drives (as opposed to flash media, USB drives, or mSATA drives) are available with conductive and grounded cases; those would probably not loose data as they're, effectively, inside a Faraday Cage structure already (as long as the ground connection is sufficiently conductive). On 12/01/2011 12:25 PM, Michael Butash wrote: Not magnetic per se, but I think an emp would kill it for the same reason static discharge will fry an IC, of which it has plenty. I'll bet the nand flash doesn't get along with EM very well either. -mb On 12/01/2011 11:56 AM, der.hans wrote: moin moin, discussing things at work and EMPs came up. It was almost on topic :). Anyway, an EMP would knock out data on hard drives, would it not? A co-worker says SSD is not magnetic, so would not be affected by an EMP. Is that correct? ciao, der.hans --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: power control (was sleep mode)
Yes when on battery it should change again. Maybe looking in your program menus might finger the management interface On Dec 1, 2011 10:26 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw the lightning bolt again and what it says is: Maximum performance mode Does this sound like something Jupiter does? On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: hey, I just woke my computer up and a box appeared in the center of the bottom of my screen with a lightning bolt and the words 'system at optimum performance' (or something similar). So it looks as if Jupiter is running I just can't control it. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: that's what I thought. p and a box pulled mputer up On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Could the problem be that I am running LinuxMint and not Ubuntu? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: the lightning bolt didn't show up anywhere. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: thanks stephen t On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: your making this much harder than it needs to be. They have an Ubuntu install option that does not entail useing an RPM http://www.jupiterapplet.org/downloads.html there is ubuntu. wich takes you to https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/jupiterhttps://launchpad.net/%7Ewebupd8team/+archive/jupiter repo add insturctioyns from the same page: https://launchpad.net/+help-soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html they then have instructions on how to add the repo which you cna then use apt-get or my favorite aptitude to install. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for inspiring me. My system is Ubuntu based so first I had to google for converting RPM to deb and I found Alien. So I run alien and it runs successfuly (I think). But no lightning bolt anywhere to be seen! Any ideas what I did wrong? bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ sudo alien -i * warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package jupiter: postinst Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts. warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY dpkg --no-force-overwrite -i jupiter_0.0.51-4_all.deb Selecting previously deselected package jupiter. (Reading database ... 172494 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking jupiter (from jupiter_0.0.51-4_all.deb) ... Setting up jupiter (0.0.51-4) ... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ... Processing triggers for gnome-menus ... Processing triggers for bamfdaemon ... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.index... bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ sudo updatedb bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ locate jupiter* /home/bmike1/Downloads/jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm /home/bmike1/Programs/Jupiter/jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ jupiter jupiter: command not found bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Brian Weaver bjwea...@gmail.com wrote: Try this.. :)
Re: OT: SSD and EMP
Incorrect as it is still suseptable to static shock or electrical shock. Just like any other electrical component. On Dec 1, 2011 11:52 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, discussing things at work and EMPs came up. It was almost on topic :). Anyway, an EMP would knock out data on hard drives, would it not? A co-worker says SSD is not magnetic, so would not be affected by an EMP. Is that correct? ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.LuftHans.com/**Classes/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # It is appallingly obvious that our technology exceeds our humanity. # -- Einstein --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: determining processor
Just because you are running a 64bit machine, that does not mean you are running a 32bit OS. The version of Ubuntu you installed was probably 32 bit. You can install a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit machine, just not the reverse. HTH Kevin On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 13:28 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: Thanks Kevin. I see in my cpuinfo flags that I support long mode too. But why, when I tried to install that in the kernel, did it complain until I put in the 32 bit version? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Kevin Fries ke...@fries-biro.com wrote: Michael, Linux is nothing if not a chatty beast ;-) To find out everything you every wanted to know about your CPU, you can look at /proc/cpuinfo. My system I am on right now is a System76 Lemur, and it runs a I3 mobile. If I look in that file, I will see: vendor_id : GenuineIntel model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU U 330 @ 1.20GHz cpu MHz : 1199.000 among other things. But the real keys to the kingdom is a field called FLAGS. flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt lahf_lm arat dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid You Google those flags and you will find out EXACTLY what your CPU does and does not support. So, to answer your question specifically, I look in the flags and see a flag lm, which stands for long mode which is uber-geek speak for 64bit mode. And sure enough, my system is running Ubuntu 11.10 in 64 bit mode. Hope this Helps Kevin On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 12:38 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: 1- I D/L a distribution 2- because I have no RW DVDs I burn the CD version 3- I install the CD version 4- After running the the install there is an ICON that says 'upgrade to the DVD' so I upgrade 5- my system starts to panic when running off of the battery so it is wisely suggested to upgrade my kernel. So I am doing so it asks me what kernel I am running. It had been said on the list that my kernel is the 64 bit kind but when I tried to upgrade to the 64bit kernel the computer complained and said 'wrong architecture'. 6- I installed the kernel for the i386 and have been happily running it now for a couple of days Questions: Was I supposed to do something to make it see that it is a 64? Would it run if an i386 was installed on a 64? Does it really matter? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: determining processor
hmm. interesting! On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Kevin Fries ke...@fries-biro.com wrote: Just because you are running a 64bit machine, that does not mean you are running a 32bit OS. The version of Ubuntu you installed was probably 32 bit. You can install a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit machine, just not the reverse. HTH Kevin On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 13:28 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: Thanks Kevin. I see in my cpuinfo flags that I support long mode too. But why, when I tried to install that in the kernel, did it complain until I put in the 32 bit version? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Kevin Fries ke...@fries-biro.com wrote: Michael, Linux is nothing if not a chatty beast ;-) To find out everything you every wanted to know about your CPU, you can look at /proc/cpuinfo. My system I am on right now is a System76 Lemur, and it runs a I3 mobile. If I look in that file, I will see: vendor_id : GenuineIntel model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU U 330 @ 1.20GHz cpu MHz : 1199.000 among other things. But the real keys to the kingdom is a field called FLAGS. flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt lahf_lm arat dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid You Google those flags and you will find out EXACTLY what your CPU does and does not support. So, to answer your question specifically, I look in the flags and see a flag lm, which stands for long mode which is uber-geek speak for 64bit mode. And sure enough, my system is running Ubuntu 11.10 in 64 bit mode. Hope this Helps Kevin On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 12:38 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: 1- I D/L a distribution 2- because I have no RW DVDs I burn the CD version 3- I install the CD version 4- After running the the install there is an ICON that says 'upgrade to the DVD' so I upgrade 5- my system starts to panic when running off of the battery so it is wisely suggested to upgrade my kernel. So I am doing so it asks me what kernel I am running. It had been said on the list that my kernel is the 64 bit kind but when I tried to upgrade to the 64bit kernel the computer complained and said 'wrong architecture'. 6- I installed the kernel for the i386 and have been happily running it now for a couple of days Questions: Was I supposed to do something to make it see that it is a 64? Would it run if an i386 was installed on a 64? Does it really matter? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SSD and EMP
Wouldn't you be better off saving your HAM radio at that point? We could discuss this forever, however if there is an EMP we have bigger problems. Keith Smith --- On Thu, 12/1/11, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net Subject: Re: OT: SSD and EMP To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011, 12:36 PM From: keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com That [raises] the question - if the device you store your data on is not [affected] by an EMP what will you read it with? And how will you use the data? Every part of our computers will be [affected] - destroyed. This is why the discerning paranoiacs always keep a spare laptop inside a Faraday cage in case of nearby nuclear weapons tests. :-P -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
phone security?
what about this ? i just figure there is no such thing as 'security' on a public device anyway. and if i got paranoid i could root the phone and install cyanogenmod. http://gizmodo.com/5863849/your-android-phone-is-secretly-recording-everything-you-do -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Linux losing popularity fast. New Unity interface to blame? | Royal Pingdom
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Re: power control (was sleep mode)
I tried that. The program shows when I type it in but when I click the program nothing shows up. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Yes when on battery it should change again. Maybe looking in your program menus might finger the management interface On Dec 1, 2011 10:26 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw the lightning bolt again and what it says is: Maximum performance mode Does this sound like something Jupiter does? On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.comwrote: hey, I just woke my computer up and a box appeared in the center of the bottom of my screen with a lightning bolt and the words 'system at optimum performance' (or something similar). So it looks as if Jupiter is running I just can't control it. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.comwrote: that's what I thought. p and a box pulled mputer up On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Could the problem be that I am running LinuxMint and not Ubuntu? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: the lightning bolt didn't show up anywhere. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: thanks stephen t On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: your making this much harder than it needs to be. They have an Ubuntu install option that does not entail useing an RPM http://www.jupiterapplet.org/downloads.html there is ubuntu. wich takes you to https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/jupiterhttps://launchpad.net/%7Ewebupd8team/+archive/jupiter repo add insturctioyns from the same page: https://launchpad.net/+help-soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html they then have instructions on how to add the repo which you cna then use apt-get or my favorite aptitude to install. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for inspiring me. My system is Ubuntu based so first I had to google for converting RPM to deb and I found Alien. So I run alien and it runs successfuly (I think). But no lightning bolt anywhere to be seen! Any ideas what I did wrong? bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ sudo alien -i * warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package jupiter: postinst Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts. warning: jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 069c119e: NOKEY dpkg --no-force-overwrite -i jupiter_0.0.51-4_all.deb Selecting previously deselected package jupiter. (Reading database ... 172494 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking jupiter (from jupiter_0.0.51-4_all.deb) ... Setting up jupiter (0.0.51-4) ... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ... Processing triggers for gnome-menus ... Processing triggers for bamfdaemon ... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.index... bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ sudo updatedb bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ locate jupiter* /home/bmike1/Downloads/jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm /home/bmike1/Programs/Jupiter/jupiter-0.0.51-3.noarch.rpm bmike1@Michaels-Presario ~/Programs/Jupiter $ jupiter jupiter: command
Re: phone security?
It still appears to be the most systematic violation of Federal wiretapping by a non-governmental party ever. Lawsuits are absolutely certain. Just for starters they recorded and transmitted usernames and passwords for encrypted web-services like gmail - in the clear. I'm trying to figure out now if Tmobile is involved. It turns out my HTC G2 is a pain in the neck to fully root and re-ROM but I intend to do so ASAP. What these asshats have done is way, way beyond intolerable. Jim On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:18 PM, betty nicepeng...@webcanine.com wrote: what about this ? i just figure there is no such thing as 'security' on a public device anyway. and if i got paranoid i could root the phone and install cyanogenmod. http://gizmodo.com/5863849/your-android-phone-is-secretly-recording-everything-you-do -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: power control (was sleep mode)
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jupiter/index.php its a thought... On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I tried that. The program shows when I type it in but when I click the program nothing shows up. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Yes when on battery it should change again. Maybe looking in your program menus might finger the management interface On Dec 1, 2011 10:26 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw the lightning bolt again and what it says is: Maximum performance mode Does this sound like something Jupiter does? On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: hey, I just woke my computer up and a box appeared in the center of the bottom of my screen with a lightning bolt and the words 'system at optimum performance' (or something similar). So it looks as if Jupiter is running I just can't control it. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: phone security?
The G2 isn't that bad. and Cyanogen runs well on it. friend of mine did that till he got fed up with T-Mobile service On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote: It still appears to be the most systematic violation of Federal wiretapping by a non-governmental party ever. Lawsuits are absolutely certain. Just for starters they recorded and transmitted usernames and passwords for encrypted web-services like gmail - in the clear. I'm trying to figure out now if Tmobile is involved. It turns out my HTC G2 is a pain in the neck to fully root and re-ROM but I intend to do so ASAP. What these asshats have done is way, way beyond intolerable. Jim On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:18 PM, betty nicepeng...@webcanine.com wrote: what about this ? i just figure there is no such thing as 'security' on a public device anyway. and if i got paranoid i could root the phone and install cyanogenmod. http://gizmodo.com/5863849/your-android-phone-is-secretly-recording-everything-you-do -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Linux losing popularity fast. New Unity interface to blame? | Royal Pingdom
I tried 11.10 on a default installation. the unity interface sux so bad that accessibility for it is a major lesson in futility. Opensuse isn't far behind it either. I fought all day with OpenSuse to no avail. no proper accessibility in gnome 3, kde is worthless and don't even ask about unity. at least VINUX has it together. full accessibility on the desktop using orca or using a console (no X) and emacspeak. frankly, I wish the other distress would get with the program. there are a lot of us blind folks that would like to use a computer, if only it didn't cost so much to make windows accessible. -eric On Nov 30, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 11/30/2011 05:05 PM, Michael Butash wrote: I've used every version of ubuntu since 6.04 on the desktop (and extensive server) full-time, and while it's always been a bit cranky, it was always the most together and solid linux. Packaging was simply never a problem, nor were dependencies (ahem, redhat and spawn). Ahem. 1995 called, they want their FUD back. Package dependencies has not been a problem since up2date first, and now yum. TC --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
networking ubuntu and mint
well, i got the new hard drives in and so now i have ubuntu on the desktop and mint on the laptop. now i need direction! Could you point me to a quick networking guide so I can work on files between the two computers and print from either of them?? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Re: phone security?
Once it's auto-updated itself to Android 2.3, the G2 is a stone-cold bitch to root. There's a full firmware update involved that does it's absolute best to block you. Jim On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: The G2 isn't that bad. and Cyanogen runs well on it. friend of mine did that till he got fed up with T-Mobile service On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote: It still appears to be the most systematic violation of Federal wiretapping by a non-governmental party ever. Lawsuits are absolutely certain. Just for starters they recorded and transmitted usernames and passwords for encrypted web-services like gmail - in the clear. I'm trying to figure out now if Tmobile is involved. It turns out my HTC G2 is a pain in the neck to fully root and re-ROM but I intend to do so ASAP. What these asshats have done is way, way beyond intolerable. Jim On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:18 PM, betty nicepeng...@webcanine.com wrote: what about this ? i just figure there is no such thing as 'security' on a public device anyway. and if i got paranoid i could root the phone and install cyanogenmod. http://gizmodo.com/5863849/your-android-phone-is-secretly-recording-everything-you-do -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SSD and EMP
Let's see...we magnetize a small chunk of material, then pass the same chunk past a 'reading head', which one might visualize as a small coil of wire...and as it passes past the 'magnet', a small electric charge is generated in the coil of wire.which is read as a 1 or a 0 (it is, or it isn't).. We reverse that procedure to 'write' to the assembly of 'chunks', ie, hard drive or flash memory. So am EMF will wipe it all askew.IMHO lyle At 12:27 PM 12/1/2011, Eric Cope wrote: EMPs affect more than just magnetic media. If the EMP puts a high enough electric field across the flash cells, it can erase/write the SSD too. Magnets won't affect SSDs. Flash memory is electric field based. Eric On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote: I know one way to find out: take an SSD full of data out of it's computer and put it between a couple of hard disk magnets... Jim On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:56 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, discussing things at work and EMPs came up. It was almost on topic :). Anyway, an EMP would knock out data on hard drives, would it not? A co-worker says SSD is not magnetic, so would not be affected by an EMP. Is that correct? ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # It is appallingly obvious that our technology exceeds our humanity. # -- Einstein --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
no suspend/sleep/etc
I want to set my desktop so that only the video will turn off if it isn't used for a while. I googled and found : *Disable sleep/standby/display sleep* -- I have an HTPC with a Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H board and Athlon 64. I have it connected via HDMI to my TV, and only control it using a remote. However, after about 15 minutes, some sleep mode is activated, and the HDMI signal cuts out until I wiggle/click the mouse. I have the screensaver disabled in the Screensaver page of the Settings Manager, so it's not that. My /etc/default/acpi-support reads: followed by So I thought to myself that this must be the way. So this is what my how my acpi-support reads. Will this do what I want it to do? # Please specify a space separated list of options. The recommended value is # dbus pm-utils # #SUSPEND_METHODS=dbus-pm dbus-hal pm-utils # # LEGACY BUILT IN SUSPEND SUPPORT (DEPRECATED) # # # These options only work for the acpi-support suspend method. This is NOT # recommended, but is retained for backward compatibility reasons. # # Comment the next line to disable ACPI suspend to RAM #ACPI_SLEEP=true # Comment the next line to disable suspend to disk #ACPI_HIBERNATE=true # Change the following to standby to use ACPI S1 sleep, rather than S3. # This will save less power, but may work on more machines #ACPI_SLEEP_MODE=mem # Add modules to this list to have them removed before suspend and reloaded # on resume. An example would be MODULES=em8300 yenta_socket # # Note that network cards and USB controllers will automatically be unloaded # unless they're listed in MODULES_WHITELIST #MODULES= # Add modules to this list to leave them in the kernel over suspend/resume #MODULES_WHITELIST= # Should we save and restore state using the VESA BIOS Extensions? #SAVE_VBE_STATE=true # The file that we use to save the vbestate #VBESTATE=/var/lib/acpi-support/vbestate # Should we attempt to warm-boot the video hardware on resume? #POST_VIDEO=true # Save and restore video state? # SAVE_VIDEO_PCI_STATE=true # Should we switch the screen off with DPMS on suspend? #USE_DPMS=true # Use Radeontool to switch the screen off? Seems to be needed on some machines # RADEON_LIGHT=true # Uncomment the next line to switch away from X and back again after resume. # This is needed for some hardware, but should be unnecessary on most. # DOUBLE_CONSOLE_SWITCH=true # Set the following to platform if you want to use ACPI to shut down # your machine on hibernation #HIBERNATE_MODE=shutdown # Comment this out to disable screen locking on resume #LOCK_SCREEN=true # Uncomment this line to have DMA disabled before suspend and reenabled # afterwards # DISABLE_DMA=true # Uncomment this line to attempt to reset the drive on resume. This seems # to be needed for some Sonys # RESET_DRIVE=true # Add services to this list to stop them before suspend and restart them in # the resume process. #STOP_SERVICES= # Restart Infra Red services on resume - off by default as it crashes some # machines #RESTART_IRDA=false # Add to this list network interfaces that you don't want to be stopped # during suspend (in fact any network interface whose name starts with # a prefix given in this list is skipped) #SKIP_INTERFACES=dummy qemu # Note: to enable laptop mode (to spin down your hard drive for longer # periods of time), install the laptop-mode-tools package and configure it in /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf. -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: phone security?
I would like to know, with this coming to light, can those of us with a phone that has the software installed legally break the contract with the company we are in? Granted, I rooted my Galaxy S and installed Cyanogenmod about 2 hours after I got the phone, I would break the contract and switch from my carrier just on principal. Any word about this? nathan On Thursday, December 01, 2011 17:56:42 Jim March wrote: Once it's auto-updated itself to Android 2.3, the G2 is a stone-cold bitch to root. There's a full firmware update involved that does it's absolute best to block you. Jim On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: The G2 isn't that bad. and Cyanogen runs well on it. friend of mine did that till he got fed up with T-Mobile service On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote: It still appears to be the most systematic violation of Federal wiretapping by a non-governmental party ever. Lawsuits are absolutely certain. Just for starters they recorded and transmitted usernames and passwords for encrypted web-services like gmail - in the clear. I'm trying to figure out now if Tmobile is involved. It turns out my HTC G2 is a pain in the neck to fully root and re-ROM but I intend to do so ASAP. What these asshats have done is way, way beyond intolerable. Jim On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:18 PM, betty nicepeng...@webcanine.com wrote: what about this ? i just figure there is no such thing as 'security' on a public device anyway. and if i got paranoid i could root the phone and install cyanogenmod. http://gizmodo.com/5863849/your-android-phone-is-secretly-recording- everything-you-do -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: List Reminder
The list server (GNU Mailman) uses the password as a very minor gating element and it is not intended to be secure. The server warns that the password is stored and emailed in clear text on the signup page. You may enter a privacy password below. This provides only mild security, but should prevent others from messing with your subscription. Do not use a valuable password as it will occasionally be emailed back to you in cleartext. On 12/01/2011 05:48 PM, James Crawford wrote: Why is the list server sending passwords with the member check James C --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: networking ubuntu and mint
I'm gonna take the sadistic answer and say man NFS. :-) In all seriousness Linux to Linux its the way to go. Unless you want to learn rsync and simply have 2 copies of Your data which has a use also. On Dec 1, 2011 5:27 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: well, i got the new hard drives in and so now i have ubuntu on the desktop and mint on the laptop. now i need direction! Could you point me to a quick networking guide so I can work on files between the two computers and print from either of them?? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: phone security?
A couple things. http://m.gizmodo.com/5863849/your-android-phone-is-secretly-recording-everything-you-do I can't remener if that was in this. But I found an app that when rooted will scan you phone for some of this. TrevE_Logging_TestApp_v7.apk I still have to suggest CyanogenMod it really is nice. On Dec 1, 2011 7:46 PM, Nathan England nat...@paysonlinux.org wrote: I would like to know, with this coming to light, can those of us with a phone that has the software installed legally break the contract with the company we are in? Granted, I rooted my Galaxy S and installed Cyanogenmod about 2 hours after I got the phone, I would break the contract and switch from my carrier just on principal. Any word about this? nathan On Thursday, December 01, 2011 17:56:42 Jim March wrote: Once it's auto-updated itself to Android 2.3, the G2 is a stone-cold bitch to root. There's a full firmware update involved that does it's absolute best to block you. Jim On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: The G2 isn't that bad. and Cyanogen runs well on it. friend of mine did that till he got fed up with T-Mobile service On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote: It still appears to be the most systematic violation of Federal wiretapping by a non-governmental party ever. Lawsuits are absolutely certain. Just for starters they recorded and transmitted usernames and passwords for encrypted web-services like gmail - in the clear. I'm trying to figure out now if Tmobile is involved. It turns out my HTC G2 is a pain in the neck to fully root and re-ROM but I intend to do so ASAP. What these asshats have done is way, way beyond intolerable. Jim On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:18 PM, betty nicepeng...@webcanine.com wrote: what about this ? i just figure there is no such thing as 'security' on a public device anyway. and if i got paranoid i could root the phone and install cyanogenmod. http://gizmodo.com/5863849/your-android-phone-is-secretly-recording- everything-you-do -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: networking ubuntu and mint
or sshfs. a lot more overhead, but runs in userspace. I usually use nfs for those things. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm gonna take the sadistic answer and say man NFS. :-) In all seriousness Linux to Linux its the way to go. Unless you want to learn rsync and simply have 2 copies of Your data which has a use also. On Dec 1, 2011 5:27 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: well, i got the new hard drives in and so now i have ubuntu on the desktop and mint on the laptop. now i need direction! Could you point me to a quick networking guide so I can work on files between the two computers and print from either of them?? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: networking ubuntu and mint
then it looks as if I'm going to abuse myself and go with NFS! So I guess I need to choose one of the three computers in my network to be the server. How can I tell the computer it is going to be a server? I was told that a linux server is merely a linux desktop with different programs installed by default. Hm now that I think of it that doesn't make much sense. What programs do I need to install to make ubuntu 11.10 desktop into ubuntu 11.10 server? I just attempted to apt-get nfs but the shell is 'unable to locate' the package. Do I need to add a website to the repository list? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:56 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: or sshfs. a lot more overhead, but runs in userspace. I usually use nfs for those things. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm gonna take the sadistic answer and say man NFS. :-) In all seriousness Linux to Linux its the way to go. Unless you want to learn rsync and simply have 2 copies of Your data which has a use also. On Dec 1, 2011 5:27 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: well, i got the new hard drives in and so now i have ubuntu on the desktop and mint on the laptop. now i need direction! Could you point me to a quick networking guide so I can work on files between the two computers and print from either of them?? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: networking ubuntu and mint
yeah I should have done this before I wrote but I asked google how to apt-get it . and it did. so I didn't need to ask. Sorry! I thought it would be something simple like apt-get nfs. But when I found out it wasn't I figured it was complex and I needed to ask. Google first! then you. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: then it looks as if I'm going to abuse myself and go with NFS! So I guess I need to choose one of the three computers in my network to be the server. How can I tell the computer it is going to be a server? I was told that a linux server is merely a linux desktop with different programs installed by default. Hm now that I think of it that doesn't make much sense. What programs do I need to install to make ubuntu 11.10 desktop into ubuntu 11.10 server? I just attempted to apt-get nfs but the shell is 'unable to locate' the package. Do I need to add a website to the repository list? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:56 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: or sshfs. a lot more overhead, but runs in userspace. I usually use nfs for those things. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm gonna take the sadistic answer and say man NFS. :-) In all seriousness Linux to Linux its the way to go. Unless you want to learn rsync and simply have 2 copies of Your data which has a use also. On Dec 1, 2011 5:27 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: well, i got the new hard drives in and so now i have ubuntu on the desktop and mint on the laptop. now i need direction! Could you point me to a quick networking guide so I can work on files between the two computers and print from either of them?? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
