Re: OT: Is it possible to make a printer wireless?

[James Finstrom]

Yes, Simply unplug it... sorry had to... HP and a few others make wireless
print servers. Some netgear routers have USB port's on them to allow you to
host the printer on your router.

James Finstrom



On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:26 PM,  wrote:

> My 20-year-old HP laser printer is acting up so I've been scouting
> craigslist for a replacement. Found a nice option that has everything I
> want for a good price, but it's not wireless. Since I need to put it in
> another room, just wondered if it is possible to connect it to my network
> with some kind of wireless dongle?
>
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Re: This Saturday (June 9): HeatSync Labs 1 year anniversary and Fedora 17 Beefy Miracle release cookout

[James Finstrom]

Ryan,

Is there a time block for this or just during normal hours...


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On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Ryan Rix  wrote:

> Heya all,
>
> This saturday we'll be having a get-together at heatsynclabs, in Mesa:
>
> http://www.heatsynclabs.org/sat-jun-9-hotdoggin-at-heatsync-labs/
>
> You should come! We'll be cooking hot dogs!
>
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Re: How to gzip multiple image files into one .gz?

[James Finstrom]

Why not use tar.

tar -czvf images.tar.gz image1 image2 image3


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On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM,  wrote:

>
> Is there a way to gzip multiple image files into a single .gz file?
>
> I found this example online, but it did not work for me.
>
> gzip -c *.jpg > output.gz
>
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Re: ubuntu 12.04

[James Finstrom]

Try using Ubuntu classic or Ubuntu1SaleADay from the session drop down
On May 12, 2012 9:48 AM, "betty"  wrote:

> I tried to install 12.04lts on one of my computers and I can get the sign
> in at the beginning, but after i sign in the screen goes to black, if i
> click the mouse it goesto a reddish color then back to black. Tried
> re-installing, and same thing. There does not seem a way to get to the
> command line from the sign in screen either.
> Any one know what might be a fix? Should i try 11.xx instead?
> Many thanks.
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OT:Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 22

[James Finstrom]

Just flashed across my Google+
http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/13/diaspora-co-founder-ilya-zhitomirskiy-passes-away-at-21/

Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 22


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Re: Linux or :video editing software?

[James Finstrom]

PiTiVi
Open movie editor

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:36 PM, mike enriquez  wrote:

> Does anyone on the list know of a good video editing software for Linux or
> for Winlows?
>
> I would like an software that does not have a steep learning curve.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike Enriquez
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Re: RFC - Linux Command Cheatsheet

[James Finstrom]

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Dennis Kibbe  wrote:

> I've updated the Linux Command cheatsheet I use for my classes at MCC
> and would appreciate any comments or corrections before I send it off to
> the Copy Center.
>
> https://s3.amazonaws.com/moodle_data/Linux+Commands.odt
> https://s3.amazonaws.com/moodle_data/Linux+Commands.pdf
>
> It's licensed Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 United States license,
> available at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/.
>
> FYI: Creative Commons has a very easy to use plugin for LibreOffice that
> allows you to assign a Creative Commons license to your documents and
> insert a license statement automatically.
>
>
> http://labs.creativecommons.org/2010/12/08/libreoffice-and-cc-openoffice-plugin/
>
> Moodle 3 also includes support for Create Commons licenses. (Aside
> der.hans: Moodle 3 ist super, besser als 2 in jeder Hinsicht!)
>
> Remember when you create something it's copyrighted All Rights Reserved
> (der.hans: Alle Rechte vorbehalten) by default, so if you want to share
> your work you need to license it.
>
> Dennis Kibbe
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My .02

Under file commands I would add:

cat
grep
grep -i

and for less I would add less +G file

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Also helpfull would probably be common files:

/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX
/etc/network/interfaces
/etc/resolv.conf
and so on...

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Re: GoDaddy sold

[James Finstrom]

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:01 AM, keith smith  wrote:

>
> Of course Godaddy is going to show rapid growth in the early years.  They
> were selling domains for $8.95 while everyone else was selling domains for
> $40.00.  I bought one at $40.00 and later began buying lots of domains at
> $8.95 - so many I had to let some go ... half of them.
>
>
> 
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Mon, 7/4/11, Bryan O'Neal 
> *wrote:
>
>
> From: Bryan O'Neal 
> Subject: Re: GoDaddy sold
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Monday, July 4, 2011, 10:35 PM
>
>
> What I remember was the real estate crash was in the late 80's (87ish
> once they cut the accelerated depreciation tax credits) and the .com
> bubble had started in the early 90's (it was thick by 94 and raging
> out of control burst by late 90's (98 - 99) but we did get the Nasdaq
> push for the mom and pop speculators as late as 2001. But I was still
> young and partially insulated in the 80's.
> But in any case Godaddy.com reported a 25% increase in sales the year
> after the recent bust, so it seems the economy is not hurting them.
>
> http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/its_official_godaddy_partners_225_billion
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Kevin Brown 
> http://mc/compose?to=kevin_br...@qwest.net>>
> wrote:
> >> Re the economy: Likely it increases sales. People are looking to make
> >> money, start new businesses, expand the current business,
> >> etc. Plus people who get laid off have time. For $3/Mo. you can start a
> >> / put your business on online. Remember the last .com
> >> boom happened after the economic crash of the late 80's.
> >
> > The Internet bubble was nearly a decade AFTER the 80s. It wasn't until
> the
> > late 90s that it shot up and burst shortly thereafter.
> >
> > Yes, the websites are cheap, but that doesn't make the rest of the
> business
> > cheap. You still have to have product to sell, packages to ship it in,
> deal
> > with credit cards and other forms of payment as well as
> refunds/returns...
> > Plus you have to get known for the product you are selling (Either via
> > Advertising or by linking up to someone bigger, like Ebay or Amazon).
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http://ktar.com/category/local-news-articles/20110705/New-investors,-but-the-same-Go-Daddy/
Says
new money same godaddy

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Re: Netflix Plug-in for Chrome

[James Finstrom]

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Jill R  wrote:

> I was googling around after seeing Bryan's post about Netflix on mytth, and
> stumbled onto something pretty awesome.  Chrome is getting an HTML5 based
> Netflix plugin!  It's apparently already in some of the builds for the
> Samsung Chromebook, and is supposedly going to enable Watch Now for Linux
> via Chrome.
>
>
> http://www.thechromesource.com/netflix-plug-in-for-chrome-and-chrome-os-is-on-the-way/
>
> http://chromestory.com/2011/06/enable-netflix-support-in-chromebook/
>
> It's about time, here's hoping it works well.
>
> - Jill
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My co-worker has a samsung chromebook and says the plugin is terrible. That
bein said they did not promise at this stage that it would be any good and
it is a lot more than any option we have had so it is a good start.


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Re: GoDaddy sold

[James Finstrom]

Lisa,

I hope you got my instructions on filtering out my emails I wouldnt want
them to distress you any longer.

1. You assume the media actually does anything investigative.
2.  You made a comment prior to my email about the mismanagement of godaddy
which by your assertions was off topic and I mistakenly replied to your
comment forgetting you hate me. In context their security manager at one
time could not apparently manage simple encryption of his own files so I
assume he is not overly security savvy falling them in line with the other
folks you don't like at go daddy but my point was invalid because you for
whatever reason hate me. In fact I gave you my explination off list but you
could not manage to be civil or adult about it so here I am sinking to your
level and annoying other nice folks but I can't help myself.
3. covered above.

--james


On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> Corrections:
>
> 1) If he did work there, it was before his indictment, because I find it
> very hard to contemplate that the press would not have, in 2008, had a field
> day with that employment factiod?
>
> 2) What possible context, other than gossip, petty prejudice and negatism
> could any fact about a child porn trading conviction take?
>
> 3) Rational discussion of a large local employers change in ownership is
> what was invited.
>
> Please keep your discussion OT James.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>
>> WAIT!
>>
>> Why does it not say Paul RICHARD Butts was "Security Manager GoDaddy.com"
>> in ANY of the press or public records?  Because this man did not work there!
>>
>> 
>>
>> James, really!  You are positively too easy to reduce to pure rude
>> emotionalism...
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:29 PM, James Finstrom <
>> jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For reference:
>>> http://vigilantantis.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/paul-richard-butts-guilty-24000-child-porn-images/
>>>
>>> http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0215abrk-childpornconvict0215.html
>>>
>>> http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/12/10/20081210childporn1210-on.html
>>>
>>> Urban legends like your resume I am sure
>>>
>>> I love everything I put on here gets attacked by princess know it all
>>>
>>> /rant
>>>
>>> -james
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bryan,
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Bryan O'Neal <
>>>> bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My guess is he is no longer the head of security and they can afford
>>>>> more A talent then they could several years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Correct!  Their entire security team came to one of my Hackfests.  They
>>>> were not in any way "slow" or stupid; in fact, they were all excellent
>>>> (quickly answering advanced questions for tee shirts and becoming bored 
>>>> with
>>>> limited content presentations [SSLStrip]) far and above the caliber of most
>>>> the PLUG (including many quick to critique and the academics selling 
>>>> "formal
>>>> education and community college classes" or contractors and entrepreneurs))
>>>> as most security passionate linux professionals are.
>>>>
>>>> I also use GoDaddy.com for some things and support a great number of
>>>> professional companies who have or currently use them.
>>>>
>>>> As for security, the GoDaddy Drupal and other point click CMS
>>>> applications are patched and provide for security updates (which outdoes 
>>>> the
>>>> PLUG, wouldn't you say)?  Their ftp and mail is relatively secure (compared
>>>> with other hosting shops).   But as for actual success as evidenced by
>>>> Google and MAC, management is EVERYTHING.   I know people who worked at
>>>> GoDaddy, and while they can't deem to venture an opinion here, they agree
>>>> management is somewhat lacking at GoDaddy.com; let's hope this changes?
>>>>
>>>> But hey, sure!  Let's all dog gossip about each other?  This James
>>>> originated story about the Security Manager sounds like an urban GoDaddy
>>>> myth?  A discussion about a personal issue of this level (which rightly
>>>> belongs in human resources, not a gosspy discussion in the PLUG) is
>>>&g

Switching email

[James Finstrom]

Most opinions, post and commentary have little to do with my professional
duties and are often personal. Unfortunately there are former employees of
my company who cannot mentally separate me from the company they have
apparent issues with and in turn my boss gets emails he has no desire to get
because frankly it has nothing to do with him.

If you have questions for me professionally or personally you can use my
personal address jfinstrom [at] gmail . I will be switching my list
subscriptions to that email address in order to lessen the confusion to the
confused.

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Re: GoDaddy sold

[James Finstrom]

Out of respect for the other members here I will reply to your comments off
list and accept your appoligy



On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> WAIT!
>
> Why does it not say Paul RICHARD Butts was "Security Manager GoDaddy.com"
> in ANY of the press or public records?  Because this man did not work there!
>
> 
>
> James, really!  You are positively too easy to reduce to pure rude
> emotionalism...
>
> 
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:29 PM, James Finstrom <
> jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>
>> For reference:
>> http://vigilantantis.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/paul-richard-butts-guilty-24000-child-porn-images/
>>
>> http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0215abrk-childpornconvict0215.html
>>
>> http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/12/10/20081210childporn1210-on.html
>>
>> Urban legends like your resume I am sure
>>
>> I love everything I put on here gets attacked by princess know it all
>>
>> /rant
>>
>> -james
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bryan,
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Bryan O'Neal <
>>> bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My guess is he is no longer the head of security and they can afford
>>>> more A talent then they could several years ago.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Correct!  Their entire security team came to one of my Hackfests.  They
>>> were not in any way "slow" or stupid; in fact, they were all excellent
>>> (quickly answering advanced questions for tee shirts and becoming bored with
>>> limited content presentations [SSLStrip]) far and above the caliber of most
>>> the PLUG (including many quick to critique and the academics selling "formal
>>> education and community college classes" or contractors and entrepreneurs))
>>> as most security passionate linux professionals are.
>>>
>>> I also use GoDaddy.com for some things and support a great number of
>>> professional companies who have or currently use them.
>>>
>>> As for security, the GoDaddy Drupal and other point click CMS
>>> applications are patched and provide for security updates (which outdoes the
>>> PLUG, wouldn't you say)?  Their ftp and mail is relatively secure (compared
>>> with other hosting shops).   But as for actual success as evidenced by
>>> Google and MAC, management is EVERYTHING.   I know people who worked at
>>> GoDaddy, and while they can't deem to venture an opinion here, they agree
>>> management is somewhat lacking at GoDaddy.com; let's hope this changes?
>>>
>>> But hey, sure!  Let's all dog gossip about each other?  This James
>>> originated story about the Security Manager sounds like an urban GoDaddy
>>> myth?  A discussion about a personal issue of this level (which rightly
>>> belongs in human resources, not a gosspy discussion in the PLUG) is
>>> obscene.  I heard a great one about myself recently?  All PLUG gossip is
>>> fairly useless and borne of one of the 7 Deadlies
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, James Finstrom
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> > um smoke crack much
>>>> > In the end Godaddy is the wal-mart of registrars. You don't go there
>>>> because
>>>> > they are the best at what they do, you go because they are the
>>>> cheapest at
>>>> > what they do. I am not aware of any other registrar that will sell you
>>>> a $1
>>>> > domain name. If someone else does let me know and I will be happy to
>>>> use em.
>>>> > I don't use any of their up-sells but I usually buy my domains there
>>>> because
>>>> > they are dirt cheap.
>>>> > As far as the old "antidote"  When their head security cant secure his
>>>> own
>>>> > crap legal or not then I would suspect he can't secure others. If he
>>>> is in
>>>> > the driver seat of the team I would assume he is what they consider
>>>> their
>>>> > "smartest choice"
>>>> > As we have seen lately script kiddies are taking down big
>>>> > multinational corporations so all around I would say the state of
>>>> security
>>>> > over all is crap.
>>>> > --James
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, 

Re: GoDaddy sold

[James Finstrom]

For reference:
http://vigilantantis.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/paul-richard-butts-guilty-24000-child-porn-images/

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0215abrk-childpornconvict0215.html
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/12/10/20081210childporn1210-on.html

Urban legends like your resume I am sure

I love everything I put on here gets attacked by princess know it all

/rant

-james

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> Hi Bryan,
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Bryan O'Neal <
> bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
>
>> My guess is he is no longer the head of security and they can afford
>> more A talent then they could several years ago.
>>
>
> Correct!  Their entire security team came to one of my Hackfests.  They
> were not in any way "slow" or stupid; in fact, they were all excellent
> (quickly answering advanced questions for tee shirts and becoming bored with
> limited content presentations [SSLStrip]) far and above the caliber of most
> the PLUG (including many quick to critique and the academics selling "formal
> education and community college classes" or contractors and entrepreneurs))
> as most security passionate linux professionals are.
>
> I also use GoDaddy.com for some things and support a great number of
> professional companies who have or currently use them.
>
> As for security, the GoDaddy Drupal and other point click CMS applications
> are patched and provide for security updates (which outdoes the PLUG,
> wouldn't you say)?  Their ftp and mail is relatively secure (compared with
> other hosting shops).   But as for actual success as evidenced by Google and
> MAC, management is EVERYTHING.   I know people who worked at GoDaddy, and
> while they can't deem to venture an opinion here, they agree management is
> somewhat lacking at GoDaddy.com; let's hope this changes?
>
> But hey, sure!  Let's all dog gossip about each other?  This James
> originated story about the Security Manager sounds like an urban GoDaddy
> myth?  A discussion about a personal issue of this level (which rightly
> belongs in human resources, not a gosspy discussion in the PLUG) is
> obscene.  I heard a great one about myself recently?  All PLUG gossip is
> fairly useless and borne of one of the 7 Deadlies
>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, James Finstrom
>>  wrote:
>> > um smoke crack much
>> > In the end Godaddy is the wal-mart of registrars. You don't go there
>> because
>> > they are the best at what they do, you go because they are the cheapest
>> at
>> > what they do. I am not aware of any other registrar that will sell you a
>> $1
>> > domain name. If someone else does let me know and I will be happy to use
>> em.
>> > I don't use any of their up-sells but I usually buy my domains there
>> because
>> > they are dirt cheap.
>> > As far as the old "antidote"  When their head security cant secure his
>> own
>> > crap legal or not then I would suspect he can't secure others. If he is
>> in
>> > the driver seat of the team I would assume he is what they consider
>> their
>> > "smartest choice"
>> > As we have seen lately script kiddies are taking down big
>> > multinational corporations so all around I would say the state of
>> security
>> > over all is crap.
>> > --James
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Lisa Kachold 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Steven,
>> >>
>> >> Everyone "projects" onto others what they feel themselves at first
>> onion
>> >> layer.  Some of us can identify our feelings (jealousy, or another of
>> the 7
>> >> deadlies) and extract gossip from fact to understanding of process and
>> >> duties in technical professions and shops.
>> >>
>> >> At GoDaddy.com ticket hockey is a large part of most of the jobs,
>> >> requiring a specific type of conformist.
>> >>
>> >> Their top linux people and developers are deeply involved; they allow
>> >> little creative thought or engineering direction from the mass of
>> employees.
>> >>
>> >> It's their culture.  Unfortunately GoDaddy.com has dropped in the
>> hosting
>> >> rankings over the last few years, perhaps due to inability to innovate,
>> poor
>> >> support for common users, and management shakeups.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Steven Stremciuc > >
>> >&

Re: GoDaddy sold

[James Finstrom]

you are correct he is in federal prison so probably no longer on the payroll
:)



On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Bryan O'Neal <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:

> My guess is he is no longer the head of security and they can afford
> more A talent then they could several years ago.
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, James Finstrom
>  wrote:
> > um smoke crack much
> > In the end Godaddy is the wal-mart of registrars. You don't go there
> because
> > they are the best at what they do, you go because they are the cheapest
> at
> > what they do. I am not aware of any other registrar that will sell you a
> $1
> > domain name. If someone else does let me know and I will be happy to use
> em.
> > I don't use any of their up-sells but I usually buy my domains there
> because
> > they are dirt cheap.
> > As far as the old "antidote"  When their head security cant secure his
> own
> > crap legal or not then I would suspect he can't secure others. If he is
> in
> > the driver seat of the team I would assume he is what they consider their
> > "smartest choice"
> > As we have seen lately script kiddies are taking down big
> > multinational corporations so all around I would say the state of
> security
> > over all is crap.
> > --James
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Lisa Kachold 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Steven,
> >>
> >> Everyone "projects" onto others what they feel themselves at first onion
> >> layer.  Some of us can identify our feelings (jealousy, or another of
> the 7
> >> deadlies) and extract gossip from fact to understanding of process and
> >> duties in technical professions and shops.
> >>
> >> At GoDaddy.com ticket hockey is a large part of most of the jobs,
> >> requiring a specific type of conformist.
> >>
> >> Their top linux people and developers are deeply involved; they allow
> >> little creative thought or engineering direction from the mass of
> employees.
> >>
> >> It's their culture.  Unfortunately GoDaddy.com has dropped in the
> hosting
> >> rankings over the last few years, perhaps due to inability to innovate,
> poor
> >> support for common users, and management shakeups.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Steven Stremciuc 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> James, that's a strange conclusion to draw from one (years old)
> anecdote.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:28 AM, James Finstrom
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Years ago one of their head security guys got busted for kiddy porn.
> >>>> This told me their security folks aren't that bright
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jul 3, 2011 6:18 AM, "Lisa Kachold" 
> wrote:
> >>>> > Ed,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Ed  wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> GoDaddy sold for $2.25B to KKR etc
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Hopefully, this might give them some new management. It's like a
> >>>> > Chinese
> >>>> > firedrill every six months over there?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The ONLY department that is well managed is their Security Services
> >>>> > team.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > http://mashable.com/2011/07/02/godaddy-sold/
> >>>> >
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Re: GoDaddy sold

[James Finstrom]

um smoke crack much

In the end Godaddy is the wal-mart of registrars. You don't go there because
they are the best at what they do, you go because they are the cheapest at
what they do. I am not aware of any other registrar that will sell you a $1
domain name. If someone else does let me know and I will be happy to use em.
I don't use any of their up-sells but I usually buy my domains there because
they are dirt cheap.

As far as the old "antidote"  When their head security cant secure his own
crap legal or not then I would suspect he can't secure others. If he is in
the driver seat of the team I would assume he is what they consider their
"smartest choice"

As we have seen lately script kiddies are taking down big
multinational corporations so all around I would say the state of security
over all is crap.

--James


On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> Steven,
>
> Everyone 
> "projects"<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection>onto others 
> what they feel themselves at first onion layer.  Some of us can
> identify our feelings (jealousy, or another of the 7 deadlies) and extract
> gossip from fact to understanding of process and duties in technical
> professions and shops.
>
> At GoDaddy.com ticket hockey is a large part of most of the jobs, requiring
> a specific type of conformist.
>
> Their top linux people and developers are deeply involved; they allow
> little creative thought or engineering direction from the mass of employees.
>
> It's their culture.  Unfortunately GoDaddy.com has dropped in the hosting
> rankings over the last few years, perhaps due to inability to innovate, poor
> support for common users, and management shakeups.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Steven Stremciuc wrote:
>
>> James, that's a strange conclusion to draw from one (years old) anecdote.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:28 AM, James Finstrom <
>> jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Years ago one of their head security guys got busted for kiddy porn. This
>>> told me their security folks aren't that bright
>>> On Jul 3, 2011 6:18 AM, "Lisa Kachold"  wrote:
>>> > Ed,
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Ed  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> GoDaddy sold for $2.25B to KKR etc
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Hopefully, this might give them some new management. It's like a
>>> Chinese
>>> > firedrill every six months over there?
>>> >
>>> > The ONLY department that is well managed is their Security Services
>>> team.
>>> >
>>> > http://mashable.com/2011/07/02/godaddy-sold/
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > (602) 791-8002 Android
>>> > (623) 239-3392 Skype
>>> > (623) 688-3392 Google Voice
>>> > **
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Re: GoDaddy sold

[James Finstrom]

Years ago one of their head security guys got busted for kiddy porn. This
told me their security folks aren't that bright
On Jul 3, 2011 6:18 AM, "Lisa Kachold"  wrote:
> Ed,
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Ed  wrote:
>
>> GoDaddy sold for $2.25B to KKR etc
>>
>
> Hopefully, this might give them some new management. It's like a Chinese
> firedrill every six months over there?
>
> The ONLY department that is well managed is their Security Services team.
>
> http://mashable.com/2011/07/02/godaddy-sold/
>
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Re: Google+

[James Finstrom]

So the latest story is the loophole is not closed just google is limiting to
X registrations per hour so if you retry you may get it as long as X has not
been reached.  I tagged the 30 people I had with open requests who didnt yet
have a plus account by some other means. Sorry they are slow I am faster
than google but still have to do this all by hand.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Brandon Haymore wrote:

> I was just able to sign up. Thanks. I’m looking forward to trying it out.*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Gilbert T.
> Gutierrez, Jr.
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:39 PM
>
> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
> *Subject:* Re: Google+
>
> ** **
>
> They seem to have started allowing registrations again an hour or so ago.
> Thanks alot!
>
>  
>
> Gilbert
>
> - Original Message - 
>
> *From:* James Finstrom  
>
> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list  **
> **
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:48 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Google+
>
> ** **
>
> It has come to my attention this loop hole may have been closed.  If you
> already submitted your email then I have tagged you in a post. If it doesn't
> work email me directly and I will add you to my list to invite when real
> invites come back online. If you haven't submitted by way of the form please
> do so and when invites come back up I will do the needful 
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:16 AM, James Finstrom <
> jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>
> you may want to try again later... that said I will unmark your email in my
> list and send an invite when they turn them back on.  
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Daniel Stasinski 
> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Stephen  wrote:
> > That worked like a champ
>
> No joy here.  Got the email with the "learn more" but it still said it
> was over quota.
>
> Was worth the try though :)
>
> Daniel
>
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Re: Google+

[James Finstrom]

It has come to my attention this loop hole may have been closed.  If you
already submitted your email then I have tagged you in a post. If it doesn't
work email me directly and I will add you to my list to invite when real
invites come back online. If you haven't submitted by way of the form please
do so and when invites come back up I will do the needful

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:16 AM, James Finstrom <
jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:

> you may want to try again later... that said I will unmark your email in my
> list and send an invite when they turn them back on.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Daniel Stasinski  > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>> > That worked like a champ
>>
>> No joy here.  Got the email with the "learn more" but it still said it
>> was over quota.
>>
>> Was worth the try though :)
>>
>> Daniel
>>
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> Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/RhinoEquipment
>
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Re: Google+

[James Finstrom]

you may want to try again later... that said I will unmark your email in my
list and send an invite when they turn them back on.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Daniel Stasinski
wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Stephen  wrote:
> > That worked like a champ
>
> No joy here.  Got the email with the "learn more" but it still said it
> was over quota.
>
> Was worth the try though :)
>
> Daniel
>
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Google+

[James Finstrom]

Hey all,

So, Google+ is out and is their answer to facebook it is suppose to be the
cats meow. Anyway they have invites turned off but there is a work around.
If you share a "stream" with an email, that person will get an email with a
link at the bottom that says "learn more" and lets you sign up. To the
point, I am creating a google form to submit your email if you would like to
join. The form thing is simply to keep it off list and to make it easy for
me.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFpQYWFaRkxoei0xX01WaWhLU2NlWlE6MQ


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Re: Exploitation?

[James Finstrom]

It already has gone off list someone is abusing their email list. That being
said my original reply was within the bounds of the discussion if we are
taking that approach but the personal attack to my email is
what escalated it.  We will simply agree to disagree but abuse of users off
list is not acceptable PERIOD!

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Stephen  wrote:

> ok this really needs to go off list..
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:27 PM, James Finstrom <
> jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>
>> LOL I am not the one off topic but  I am at fault as everyone knows your
>> 256 shades of bat*** crazy and I made the mistake of pointing it out. I
>> assume you will take your meds and not hurt yourself or anyone else for my
>> mistake
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> I accept your apology for the PLUG.
>>>
>>> Have a better day.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:51 PM, James Finstrom <
>>> jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am sure It would have been acceptable as a straight relay of the job.
>>>> What was off topic was the personal commentary to the posters intentions 
>>>> and
>>>> motivations ie: the subject of this email
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lisa Kachold 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, keith smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think this is a " Jr cabling/desktop monkey" job.  The job
>>>>>> post says "...This position is 90% remote...".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this is a start up and the owner has everyone work out of
>>>>>> their home to keep the cost down and they meet at his house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About 12 years ago I worked for a consulting company.  I was W2 and
>>>>>> worked from home.  He provided my computer, pay, limited benefits, and he
>>>>>> worked out of his home.  By doing business this way he was able to keep 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> cost of doing business to a minimum.  I believe he started on a shoe 
>>>>>> string
>>>>>> and just stayed there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe this is an opportunity for someone to learn, grow, and get
>>>>>> some resume material.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Keith Smith
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, Kevin Fries * wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Kevin Fries 
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Exploitation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <
>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>>>>> Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 7:31 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure I would go directly to exploitation.  Though I would say
>>>>>> they are trying to take advantage slightly.  All the requirements are 1-3
>>>>>> years.  I would assume there is already in place a full admin, so this
>>>>>> person would likely be a Jr cabling/desktop monkey.  Here in Denver that 
>>>>>> job
>>>>>> would go for 40-45k a year and our tech job market is much stronger than
>>>>>> yours.  I lost my job the last day of September last year and started my 
>>>>>> job
>>>>>> search Oct 1... started a new job Nov 15th, and I was not the first to 
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> one... but that is Denver.  Phoenix is a much tougher nut.  So while the
>>>>>> rates are low, and probably not very realistic, I think exploitation is a
>>>>>> bit strong.  I bet they find some nice kid 20-22 years old in the $15-$18
>>>>>> range.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2011 7:54 AM, "Lisa Kachold" 
>>>>>> http://mc/compose?to=lisakach...@obnosis.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Anyone seen this:
>>>>>> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sad/2341174027.html
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --excerpt--
>>>>>> >
>>>>&g

Re: Exploitation?

[James Finstrom]

LOL I am not the one off topic but  I am at fault as everyone knows your 256
shades of bat*** crazy and I made the mistake of pointing it out. I assume
you will take your meds and not hurt yourself or anyone else for my
mistake

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> James,
>
> I accept your apology for the PLUG.
>
> Have a better day.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:51 PM, James Finstrom <
> jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>
>> I am sure It would have been acceptable as a straight relay of the job.
>> What was off topic was the personal commentary to the posters intentions and
>> motivations ie: the subject of this email
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, keith smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think this is a " Jr cabling/desktop monkey" job.  The job post
>>>> says "...This position is 90% remote...".
>>>>
>>>> I think this is a start up and the owner has everyone work out of their
>>>> home to keep the cost down and they meet at his house.
>>>>
>>>> About 12 years ago I worked for a consulting company.  I was W2 and
>>>> worked from home.  He provided my computer, pay, limited benefits, and he
>>>> worked out of his home.  By doing business this way he was able to keep the
>>>> cost of doing business to a minimum.  I believe he started on a shoe string
>>>> and just stayed there.
>>>>
>>>> I believe this is an opportunity for someone to learn, grow, and get
>>>> some resume material.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Keith Smith
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, Kevin Fries * wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Kevin Fries 
>>>> Subject: Re: Exploitation?
>>>>
>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
>>>> Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 7:31 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure I would go directly to exploitation.  Though I would say
>>>> they are trying to take advantage slightly.  All the requirements are 1-3
>>>> years.  I would assume there is already in place a full admin, so this
>>>> person would likely be a Jr cabling/desktop monkey.  Here in Denver that 
>>>> job
>>>> would go for 40-45k a year and our tech job market is much stronger than
>>>> yours.  I lost my job the last day of September last year and started my 
>>>> job
>>>> search Oct 1... started a new job Nov 15th, and I was not the first to find
>>>> one... but that is Denver.  Phoenix is a much tougher nut.  So while the
>>>> rates are low, and probably not very realistic, I think exploitation is a
>>>> bit strong.  I bet they find some nice kid 20-22 years old in the $15-$18
>>>> range.
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>> On Apr 25, 2011 7:54 AM, "Lisa Kachold" 
>>>> http://mc/compose?to=lisakach...@obnosis.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Anyone seen this:
>>>> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sad/2341174027.html
>>>> >
>>>> > --excerpt--
>>>> >
>>>> > COMPANY is now hiring a Linux / Windows Systems Admin. This is a Jr.
>>>> Admin
>>>> > role. We are looking for a energetic person who has a basic background
>>>> in
>>>> > administration. This position is 90% remote but you must reside in the
>>>> > Phoenix area due to weekly meetings. Please see below for skill set.
>>>> Please
>>>> > do not apply if you are a seasoned admin this is a Jr. positions. Pay
>>>> rate
>>>> > is $10 - $12.50 an hour.
>>>> >
>>>> > Windows Administration - 1 to 3 years
>>>> > Linux Administration - 1 to 3 years
>>>> > Networking - 1 to 3 years
>>>> > UNIX - is a plus
>>>> > Programing - is a plus
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > * Location: Phoenix Area
>>>> > * Compensation: $10 - $12.50
>>>> >
>>>> > CRITICAL THOUGHT:
>>>> >
>>>> > 1) How can you require all the same responsibilities in a so-called
>>>> Junior
>>>> > Systems Admin of a regular admin as a rationalization to only pay them
>>>> > $12-15 an hour?
>>>> > 2) Thi

Re: Exploitation?

[James Finstrom]

I am sure It would have been acceptable as a straight relay of the job. What
was off topic was the personal commentary to the posters intentions and
motivations ie: the subject of this email

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, keith smith wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't think this is a " Jr cabling/desktop monkey" job.  The job post
>> says "...This position is 90% remote...".
>>
>> I think this is a start up and the owner has everyone work out of their
>> home to keep the cost down and they meet at his house.
>>
>> About 12 years ago I worked for a consulting company.  I was W2 and worked
>> from home.  He provided my computer, pay, limited benefits, and he worked
>> out of his home.  By doing business this way he was able to keep the cost of
>> doing business to a minimum.  I believe he started on a shoe string and just
>> stayed there.
>>
>> I believe this is an opportunity for someone to learn, grow, and get some
>> resume material.
>>
>> 
>> Keith Smith
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, Kevin Fries * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Kevin Fries 
>> Subject: Re: Exploitation?
>>
>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
>> Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 7:31 AM
>>
>>
>> I am not sure I would go directly to exploitation.  Though I would say
>> they are trying to take advantage slightly.  All the requirements are 1-3
>> years.  I would assume there is already in place a full admin, so this
>> person would likely be a Jr cabling/desktop monkey.  Here in Denver that job
>> would go for 40-45k a year and our tech job market is much stronger than
>> yours.  I lost my job the last day of September last year and started my job
>> search Oct 1... started a new job Nov 15th, and I was not the first to find
>> one... but that is Denver.  Phoenix is a much tougher nut.  So while the
>> rates are low, and probably not very realistic, I think exploitation is a
>> bit strong.  I bet they find some nice kid 20-22 years old in the $15-$18
>> range.
>>
>> Kevin
>> On Apr 25, 2011 7:54 AM, "Lisa Kachold" 
>> http://mc/compose?to=lisakach...@obnosis.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > Anyone seen this: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sad/2341174027.html
>> >
>> > --excerpt--
>> >
>> > COMPANY is now hiring a Linux / Windows Systems Admin. This is a Jr.
>> Admin
>> > role. We are looking for a energetic person who has a basic background
>> in
>> > administration. This position is 90% remote but you must reside in the
>> > Phoenix area due to weekly meetings. Please see below for skill set.
>> Please
>> > do not apply if you are a seasoned admin this is a Jr. positions. Pay
>> rate
>> > is $10 - $12.50 an hour.
>> >
>> > Windows Administration - 1 to 3 years
>> > Linux Administration - 1 to 3 years
>> > Networking - 1 to 3 years
>> > UNIX - is a plus
>> > Programing - is a plus
>> >
>> >
>> > * Location: Phoenix Area
>> > * Compensation: $10 - $12.50
>> >
>> > CRITICAL THOUGHT:
>> >
>> > 1) How can you require all the same responsibilities in a so-called
>> Junior
>> > Systems Admin of a regular admin as a rationalization to only pay them
>> > $12-15 an hour?
>> > 2) This company is clearly not a .ORG - seems they have mis-registered
>> their
>> > domain name?
>> > 3) Don't even sec scan their website...
>> >
>> > But hey, if you want to work from home, this might be a good gig, you
>> can
>> > work 15 minutes on the hour!
>> >
>> > --
>> > (503) 754-4452 iPhone
>> > (623) 239-3392 Skype
>> > (623) 688-3392 Google Voice
>> >
>> > http://www.it-clowns.com
>> >
>> > "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account and
>> have
>> > removed the user God." -Saros
>>
>> -Inline Attachment Follows-
>>
>>
>> Yes, I think this could be a good gig.
>
> We don't have a job posts area anymore or I would have laid her there.
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OT: Exploitation?

[James Finstrom]

If you feel some bizarre need to attack me about a response I give please do
so on the list so people can see how big of a mpron you really are. Lisa I
am sorry your lack of pure awesomeness prevented yoi from making whatever
you delisionally thought you deserved. You will be happy to know they hired
someone  to fill the huge void you think you left and if you think I make
$10/hr doing the job you couldnt well then that simply says your not worth
$10/hr which is oddly satisfying.
On Apr 25, 2011 7:31 AM, "Kevin Fries"  wrote:
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Re: Exploitation?

[James Finstrom]

1. The structure of TLD's except gov and edu have not mattered for a long
time now so get over it.
2. Unemployment is at 10% and people with masters degrees are working at
McDonalds so I could see some out of work admin jumping at this.
3. This should be marked off topic since you put it up as a political or
personal rant rather than an FYI anyone need a linux job post

/soap box

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> Anyone seen this:  http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sad/2341174027.html
>
> --excerpt--
>
> COMPANY is now hiring a Linux / Windows Systems Admin. This is a Jr. Admin
> role. We are looking for a energetic person who has a basic background in
> administration. This position is 90% remote but you must reside in the
> Phoenix area due to weekly meetings. Please see below for skill set. Please
> do not apply if you are a seasoned admin this is a Jr. positions. Pay rate
> is $10 - $12.50 an hour.
>
> Windows Administration - 1 to 3 years
> Linux Administration - 1 to 3 years
> Networking - 1 to 3 years
> UNIX - is a plus
> Programing - is a plus
>
>
> * Location: Phoenix Area
> * Compensation: $10 - $12.50
>
> CRITICAL THOUGHT:
>
> 1) How can you require all the same responsibilities in a so-called Junior
> Systems Admin of a regular admin as a rationalization to only pay them
> $12-15 an hour?
> 2) This company is clearly not a .ORG - seems they have mis-registered
> their domain name?
> 3) Don't even sec scan their website...
>
> But hey, if you want to work from home, this might be a good gig, you can
> work 15 minutes on the hour!
>
> --
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> (623) 239-3392 Skype
> (623) 688-3392 Google Voice
>
>  http://www.it-clowns.com
>
> "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account and
> have removed the user God."   -Saros
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The devil you know

[James Finstrom]

It was a dark stormy night in 2005. A stranger in a trench coat approached
and handed me a CD. I no longer had to fight the benign little issues nor
did I have to put any effort in to make my laptop run Linux. Alas I have
been using derivatives of Ubuntu ever since. I used Kbuntu for years then
they decided to move to KDE 4 which lacked my ability to like it.
I switched over to gnome and we have become good friends. Ok lets get to the
point. I am getting a new laptop today and I am debating of weather I should
stick with Ubuntu who has never done me wrong or do I try something new.  I
have no issues from a technical or moral standpoint with Ubuntu and am happy
to use it until I do. That being said It has been almost 6 years and there
have been many new distros born and old ones brought up to par so I would
like feed back. I do wish to stay in the Debian family tree but outside of
that I am open to suggestions.

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Re: Looking for a C class

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C has no class. Sorry had to do it...
On Mar 18, 2011 7:20 PM, "Bryan O'Neal" <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
> I am looking for a C class that is data structures focused and not
> windows dominate. Suggestions?
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Re: Programing help read USB Joystick using gcc

[James Finstrom]

I believe there is a plug-dec list for these things. That said google
"joystick.h"
On Feb 23, 2011 4:43 PM, "Mike Bushroe"  wrote:
>
>  I have been trying unsuccessfully for some time to figure out how to
read the analog axes and digital buttons on one or more USB joysticks
connected to a computer with an open source programming language like C
compiled by gcc. I have no idea what library needs to be added, if any. I
also have no idea what the function call names or parameters are. I have
tried Googling USB Joystick, but mostly what I find is how to convert an
older game console into a USB device. Can someone point me to required
libraries, header files with function calls, or better yet sample code? Or
is there a different listserver that has people that can more easily answer
questions like this?
>
>
>  I am trying to write a program to send serial command data to a
microcontroller to operate an underwater ROV using the joysticks to control
movement and manipulator arms, and buttons to control lights, secondary
cameras, ballast tanks, etc. But without a way to read human input, I don't
have any data to convert into motor commands to control the movement of the
ROV.
>
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Re: OT: Survey: 32% Admit Mooching Neighbor's Wi-Fi

[James Finstrom]

Qwest always ships their routers with wep on by default. I have found these
routers to be easy backup interweb sources.
When I lived in an apartment I had a server that simply sat there
and acquired credentials. Fortunately my Cox connection had awesome uptime
and I never had the need to use the data.

Here is some observations, If you want free internet look for medical
offices. HIPPA requires security but not "smart security" Often the password
to access their wireless and often their servers is their office name, a
doctor in their office, or their specialty. Some think they are clever and
add encapsulate the name in exclamation marks.  You can also often walk in
and ask a question and eagle eye the password off a post it note.

I have several times offered to help secure offices that hold the medical
records of me and my family because frankly HIPPA is worthless


--James




On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
>> I know you have been mentioning in several threads the need for some
>> material.  What I plan for my meeting spot is definitely
>> demonstrations.  I figure the demo activity will consume maybe 2/3rds
>> of the time and the remaining be explanation, a bit of historical
>> perspective and Q&A.  I don't have it all plotted out yet but have a
>> general idea of major topics in my head.  I'll have more to come
>> later.
>>
>> Or after I finish my show this Thursday, I can pass along what I used
>> for notes since your program isn't til next month.
>>
>
> Hey, I did a few demonstrations/presentations with Wireless WEP and WPA2
> encroachment and MITM attacks using airmon-ng aircrack-ng and airreplay-ng
> (that I also used at work for LunchNLearn sessions to bring everyone in
> Corporate America out of Security Matrix) which are all available:
>
> http://www.aircrack-ng.org/
>
> There's even aircrack-ng for iPhone debian now.  Incredible, huh?
>
> The presentation is here (not sure of the quality of the format, however)
> from a Hackfest early last year at the Foundation for Blind Children:
>
> http://www.obnosis.com/Layer8Wireless.html
>
> Let me know if you would like for me to appear and run a few attack scripts
> (I script these presentations, since it's easier to run, after going through
> the presentation materials - don't have to sit and type laboriously).
>
> "All Trust is Misplaced"
>
>
>> On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 05:44:28PM -0700, Technomage Hawke wrote:
>> > nice story, but the layout was confusing. they really need to be using
>> tables and frames on there. having to skim all the other "link" entries just
>> to read the story. Sorry folks, its being a long and painful day.
>> >
>> > btw, can I get a little help with a basic outline for linux and
>> accessibility technology, or should I just keep it simple and bring my
>> powerbook along to demonstrate some of it?
>> >
>> > -Eric
>> >
>> > On Feb 5, 2011, at 3:26 PM, keith smith wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Some 32% of respondents to a recent national survey admitted borrowing
>> a neighbor's unencrypted Wi-Fi connection.
>> > >
>> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/survey-32-admit-mooching-neighbors-wi-fi/story?id=12837897
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > > Keith Smith
>> > >
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Re: SMTP proxy for masking credit card numbers

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On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Joseph Sinclair
wrote:

> This is a somewhat unusual requirement, so I couldn't find a quick
> out-of-the-box solution, but there is a way to do this.
> The general-purpose approach is to add a filter on the mail processing
> path.  There are many listed here (https://www.milter.org/) that work with
> sendmail, postfix, and similar common MTA's.
> You will probably need to write a regex matcher or a small python script
> (using pymilter http://pymilter.sf.net/) to match anything that looks like
> a credit card and replace the digits with 'x' or similar.
> Keep in mind this will probably be a bit "fuzzy", as there are many things
> that look enough like a credit card number to result in some mistaken
> filtering.
>
> Hunter Kreie wrote:
> > I'm looking for a lightweight, open-source STMP proxy that I can use to
> mask credit card numbers on inbound messages. This is content-manipulation
> or content-scrubbing vs. content-filtering. I'm sure this can be done with
> quite a few packages, but what's your recommendation?
> >
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Regex: http://www.regular-expressions.info/creditcard.html


^(?:4[0-9]{12}(?:[0-9]{3})?|5[1-5][0-9]{14}|6(?:011|5[0-9][0-9])[0-9]{12}|3[47][0-9]{13}|3(?:0[0-5]|[68][0-9])[0-9]{11}|(?:2131|1800|35\d{3})\d{11})$.
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Re: Backup

[James Finstrom]

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Matt Graham wrote:

> From: "Eric - A" 
> > What is a simple program to do full and incremental backups of my
> > hard drive? I'm running Ubuntu 10.04.
>
> I wouldn't back up the whole disk, just because Linux and most of the apps
> on
> it are relatively easy and quick to reinstall.  I plug a USB2 drive in,
> mount
> it on /mnt/backup/ , then use "rsync -a --delete-after /home/mhgraham/
> /mnt/backup/" every few days.[0]  I rotate those disks so I've always got
> one
> at home and another offsite in a reasonably secure place.  My ~ contains
> all
> the data that'd be annoying, difficult, or impossible to replace.  I can
> recreate the config files in /etc without much pain.  Initial sync on each
> disk took over an hour.  Incremental syncs take 3-4 minutes.
>
> Note that YMMV, and you should change your backup plan if you've got more
> complicated stuff going on, or commercial apps that require license keys,
> or
> junk like that.  But if you can install a distro, the bootloader and
> executables are much much easier to recover in case of disk failure than
> your
> collection of financial data, your Great American Novel first draft, or all
> your custom Perl scripts.
>
> I've had reasonable luck using partimage to back up and restore a partition
> containing 'DozeXP.  I had to manually gunzip the image files it created
> before the restore would work, though, and I hope they've fixed that
> problem
> in the latest release.
>
> [0] It's a little bit more complex than that, but it's all in 2 bash
> scripts
> that both fit on one screen, and that rsync is the main thing that can't be
> eliminated.
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$ du -hs ~
118G /home/james

thumb drive you say :)
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Re: Backup

[James Finstrom]

Article is a bit dated but I thing the options are still pretty accurate:
http://www.junauza.com/2009/01/7-best-freeopen-source-backup-software.html

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Eric - A  wrote:

> What is a simple program to do full and incremental backups of my hardrive?
> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04.
>
>
> .
> Eric - A
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> Arizona Free Software groups.
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Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

[James Finstrom]

Somewhere glenn beck is crying

We assume no security is worth anything so you must secure through
obscurity.  Assume yoor info will be found so surround it by more
info. Wikileaks and most legislation shows practical implimentation of
this. It is difficult to find a sentence in 10,000 pages.

On 12/18/10, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
> I like this one; it separates the chaf from the stones:
>
> http://extendedsubset.com/
>
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Ed  wrote:
>
>> from a development perspective:
>>
>> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2014004
>>
>> lesson - document those commits
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Jordan Aberle 
>> wrote:
>> > Interesting information:
>> >
>> > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462&w=2
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Re: OT tablet readers.

[James Finstrom]

I think as far as "Just a book" the kindle and related devices are the way
to go. After spending about 4 hours with each of these devices I think the
cruz is a mile ahead of the novel. In the end it is like looking at a
computer from the book aspect. I don't like reading off a screen so they
both kinda fail there. The default app on the novel has a night mode that
inverts the text to white on black. Sending a good amount of my day in a
console I sorta dig this feature as my eyes are tuned to white on black.

The overall processing power on both is lacking. Tried to play Angry birds
and it was full of fail.  I am still playing.

-James



On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Mark Phillips wrote:

> I am curious about your experiences with tablet readers. I have a Kindle
> and love it, but I am interested in the greater capabilites of a tablet.
> Part of the hype that differentiates the tablets from the e-ink devices is
> the following. E-ink advocates say that reading a tablet can cause more eye
> strain than an e-ink device because the brightness of the screen does not
> vary with the ambient light. They analogy they use is "like having a
> flashlight shining in your eyes." Since e-ink devices depend on ambient
> light (ie are a reflective light technology), they are more like reading
> from a page of paper than a computer screen. Have you had any issues reading
> for a long time with tablets?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:12 AM, James Finstrom <
> jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>
>> So I was wanting a kindle then my interest was sparked by these readers
>> running andriod. Picked up a pandigital novel but turns out they are not
>> that great. After about 4 hours of playing took it back and picked up the
>> velocity Cruz reader. Out of the gate it looks like they want you to hack
>> this thing. They have things in place to accommodate such a cause. So if
>> your out looking at cheap readers that allow play time
>> I definitely recommend you avoid pandigital and check out the cruz.
>>
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OT tablet readers.

[James Finstrom]

So I was wanting a kindle then my interest was sparked by these readers
running andriod. Picked up a pandigital novel but turns out they are not
that great. After about 4 hours of playing took it back and picked up the
velocity Cruz reader. Out of the gate it looks like they want you to hack
this thing. They have things in place to accommodate such a cause. So if
your out looking at cheap readers that allow play time
I definitely recommend you avoid pandigital and check out the cruz.

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Re: Asterisk PBX support / vendor

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Xorcom 'US' is in San Jose

On 10/20/10, JD Austin  wrote:
> Rhino does make good hardware.
> Another local vendor is Xorcom; while their parent company is based in
> Israel XorcomUSA is based in Phoenix.
> The only thing I like about Xorcom hardware over Rhino is that it scales a
> little easier.  It is USB2 based so you don't have to worry about whether
> the motherboard is compatible with PCI cards (3v/5v), you can fit a lot of
> telephony hardware in a small amount of space (for example this install:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/twingeckos/FortPolkJointReadinessTrainingCenter#),
> and it generally comes out at a slightly lower price for the customer
> (sometimes significantly less).
> That said... I don't care for the XR1000 server that Xorcom sells as it is
> too underpowered to expand (ok for demos) but the XR2000 and XR3000 servers
> are fine; they will be coming out with a more powerful XR1000 soon
> thankfully.
>
> Sangoma also makes fine Asterisk telephony hardware.  I haven't tried any of
> the Chinese Digium knockoffs and probably never will.  I don't recommend
> mixing different vendor's Asterisk telephony hardware as it is very
> un-likely that the combination has been tested by either vendor.
> For 'roll your own' servers I recommend Server Micro hardware.
>
> Since the phones are what users actually touch get good phones :)  For
> phones I generally prefer Polycom or Aastra phones.  You can use Cisco
> phones if you flash them with the SIP firmware (there is chan_skinny for
> Asterisk but why complicate matters); you may have to set qualify=no to
> avoid registration issues.
>
> JD
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 14:37, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
>
>> I recommend RhinoEquipment.  I worked there for Jim Rhodea.   Great mount
>> of aggressive bad fun.
>>
>> I am not sure if Jim is doing systems contracting and service work, or
>> troub k ,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:12 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
>>
>>> My company does :)
>>>
>>> -- JD Austin
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>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 14:05, Hunter Kreie  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Could anyone recommend a consultant or firm that provides Asterisk based
>>>> phone system support / installation? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would love the flexibility of having a Linux based PBX, but if I need
>>>> some local resources who have worked extensively with Asterisk based
>>>> systems
>>>> to reach out to when I get stumped by an issue.
>>>>
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Ot:large snakes

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So I feel a bit dirty but I decided to jump in to python because
that's what the cool kids are doin right. Anyway I am one I'd those
masochistic self learners and I like to learn by example. Python has
their docs but frankly they are crap. Is anyone aware of something
like php.net where the core function is given with explination
followed by realworld examples. Also any other links on python for
programmers would be awesome. I am beyond 'hello kitty' and have the
basic structure of the python style. Now I wanna make it do my laundry
and cook breakfast :)

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Re: Need Help with iTouch and Linux

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give up on all the tutorials they are all crap. I had tried everything
that supposedly worked and none of it would. I saw a post on webupdate that
said Clementine supports ipods and guess what for the first time in a
year of failed efforts I can manage my ipod with linux. Clementine has
Ubuntu packages that may or may not work I would google for a how to on
debian



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wrote:

> My daughter has a Debian testing machine and an iTouch. If I plug in the
> iTouch, gnome mounts it and I can open it and see folders and files.
> However, gtkpod can't seem to find it. She wants to put some mp3 files on
> her iTouch, and I thought that is what gtkpod would do for her.
>
> I googled for some solutions for gettting gtkpod to talk to her iTouch, and
> found articles that talk about doing all sorts of rude things to the iTouch
> (ie jailbreaking it), which I assume is just old information. I found this
> article, http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45679, which
> does not require jailbreaking the iTouch. However, since gnome already
> mounts the iTouch, I suspect this article is obsolete already. It talks
> about using lots of Debian unstable packages, but do I really need them if
> gnome can read the iTouch drive?
>
> Anybody have a good recipe for getting an iTouch to talk to gtkpod with
> Debian testing?
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: libreoffice, good news or bad news

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For those interested...
http://tracker.documentfoundation.org:6969/

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:22 AM, JD Austin  wrote:

> They spell out some details in their Faq:
> http://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/
>
> <http://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/> Q: And why are you calling the
> software "LibreOffice" instead of "OpenOffice.org"?
>
> A: The OpenOffice.org trademark is owned by Oracle Corporation. Our hope is
> that Oracle will donate this to the Foundation, along with the other assets
> it holds in trust for the Community, in due course, once legal etc issues
> are resolved. However, we need to continue work in the meantime - hence
> "LibreOffice" ("free office").
>  Q: Why are you building a new web infrastructure?
>
> A: Since Oracle's takeover of Sun Microsystems, the Community has been
> under "notice to quit" from our previous Collabnet infrastructure. With
> today's announcement of a Foundation, we now have an entity which can own
> our emerging new infrastructure.
>
>  Q: What difference will The Document Foundation make to users of
> LibreOffice?
>
> A: LibreOffice is The Document Foundation's reason for existence. We do not
> have and will not have a commercial product which receives preferential
> treatment. We only have one focus - delivering the best free office suite
> for our users - LibreOffice.
>
> JD
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:17, James Finstrom <
> jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>
>> I have been whining about all of these oracle logos that keep showing up
>> on my system I say the less the better That said other than spamming
>> their brand all over all of them I don't know what Oracles roadmap for all
>> of suns open progress is.  Being that this is being started by key folks in
>> the OOo world I have a feeling they do know and suddenly we have a fork.
>>
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Re: libreoffice, good news or bad news

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I have been whining about all of these oracle logos that keep showing up on
my system I say the less the better That said other than spamming
their brand all over all of them I don't know what Oracles roadmap for all
of suns open progress is.  Being that this is being started by key folks in
the OOo world I have a feeling they do know and suddenly we have a fork.

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Re: going M$ free

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I havent had a windows box in forever. I had to use a MAC for my Ipod (I
know ipod is the devil) but recently discovered Clementine so now I can add
music through gtk apps :). I cant think of one thing I miss, except maybe
photoshop. That said without getting in to fanboyisms of gimp vs photoshop,
gimp works great for most tasks.
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On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 10:09 PM, JD Austin  wrote:

> I use a combination of RH13, Crossover Linux (I have v8... not sure if it's
> worth paying to upgrade o v9), and Virtualbox with XP installed (rarely
> needed).
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 21:25, keith smith  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I'm really getting tired of these windows problems.  2 viri [spell] in
>> less than a year.  In about 2000 I went M$ free for about 8 months.  I tried
>> it again in 2007 for a month or two.
>>
>> The main issue I have is I am a LAMP dev and find it awkward to run IE in
>> wine.  I need IE to test how things look and work in IE.  The other issue I
>> had is I really like PSpad.  It is my favorite editor.
>>
>> I spend so much time in Linux anymore it almost makes sense to go M$ free.
>>
>> How do you check how sites resulve in IE if you run only linux?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> 
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Staying Ubuntu or Getting minty.

[James Finstrom]

So,

I have used Ubuntu forever and a day on my laptop because it "just works".
That said my ears perked earlier this week at the announcement from mint
going to debian and becoming a rolling release. I like and fear this rolling
release thing but when it comes down to it I end up upgrading things via ppa
or source anyway so it really is not that different. That all said I see
with 10.10 ubuntu is going to have an "extras" repo which
essentially accomplishes the same thing. So anyway what are your opinions on
sticking to the devil I know and love or getting back closer to debian with
mint

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Re: Good Job Microsoft

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I think parallax is my new favorite word

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Dazed_75  wrote:

>
> OK, sounds like blasphemy to me but they did.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-_T949uSwU
>
> I might hope they would license it to others too, but I doubt they will.
>
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Re: what is this strange link

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   The Uniform Resource Locator (URL) schemes, "cid:" and "mid:" allow
   references to messages and the body parts of messages.  For example,
   within a single multipart message, one HTML body part might include
   embedded references to other parts of the same message.

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2111.txt

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:

> Got an email from a friend.  It includes a link that looks strange and
> seems to have no place in the context of the email.  Hovering the cursor
> over it seems to show that it resolves to "about:blank".  Here is is with
> some spaces inserted to make it not be active:
>
> cid : 82 E5A786026D48CFB93EDE028A88F0EB @ SportdocPC
>
>
> Anyone know?
>
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OT (spammy) 19" 7ft (42u) server rack for sale

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Have a server rack up on craigslist from my employer for $75 if anyone is
interested.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/sys/1843376968.html

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OT (sorta): Free Amazon prime account for .edu

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If you have a .edu email address you can get a 1 year amazon prime
subscription. These are normally $79 and its handy if you order a lot from
amazon.

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Breaking in to a Harddrive

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Greetings All,

So my dad bought a Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 and apparently the drive is
password locked at a hardware level and requires some sort of voodoo to
report back anything other than vendor data. Anyway I guess there is a byte
code you send to the drive and then a password then you live happily ever
after. Needless to say we don't have the password. I am sure there is data
on the drive but none that we own so don't care if all data is lost. Looking
for suggestions on breaking in or clearing the drive. Again total data loss
is ok.  Tried DD in case it was in the partition table and no dice..

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Oil Spill Data and Robots

[James Finstrom]

So the Government has released various data about the oil spill and response
efforts at http://www.energy.gov/open/oilspilldata.htm I thought it was neet
when I scrolled down and there spreadsheets were in both xls and the open
format ods. It would be better if all items were in open format but is is a
start. On a related but not related note that may be of interest there is an
underwater robotics competition in Chandler
http://www.h2orobots.org/zindex.htm This could be cool and is sort of the
foundation of all they are doing in the gulf

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Re: Slicehost / xen hosting size

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Sorry for the butt mail... need to learn to lock the keys
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Re: Slicehost / xen hosting size

[James Finstrom]

On 5/31/10, Steve Phariss  wrote:
> I am thinking it is about time to move my wife's website up to a virtual
> server of some sort (currently on a shared server on bluehost).  I was
> looking at slicehost and a couple other hosts but I am not sure of the size
> host I should get (or even the best company to go with).  The website runs
> OSCommerce, Wordpress, Zenphoto, IMAP, Roundcube (or other webmail)  and one
> or two various web apps for testing.  She also hosts short term, low traffic
> websites for misc uses.
>
> Any ideas on proper sizing?
>
> Steve Phariss
>

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Re: Asterisk or other option?

[James Finstrom]

Well being that this is what I do I guess I will pipe up.

Asterisk should be fine but you may also want to search for Freeswitch. If
you dont know asterisk and have to learn anyway Freeswitch may be a good
option. If you want the most painless entry in to Asterisk you will want to
use a pre-made distro. We use Druid here in the office but there are other
options like Elastix, PBX in a Flash, and trixbox.

As was mentioned almost any off the shelf PC will do ok. If you will be
running hardware telephony interfaces I would avoid the throw away boards as
the cards are high interrupt devices and some really cheap main boards
simply cant handle it. For something your size you can probably get away
with an Atom board. Having all your stations as sip should be ok but this
should be an Isolated network so when a few people stream youtube the calls
dont degrade. As far as additional hardware goes you havent provided enough
data. Do you have pots lines, a T1, Voip? How many lines are coming in?

If you need to terminate to the pstn best advice is DON'T BE CHEAP. Using
cheap cards will make your job harder as they are not
often professionally supported and can lead to a project being scrapped for
being junk. I would hope you buy Rhino (http://rhinoequipment.com) as they
are 1. Where I work. 2. Made in the US. 3. An Arizona company. That said you
have other choices and I would stick to Rhino or one of these other two if
you want your stuff to work: Digium (http://digium.com) or Sangoma (
http://sangoma.com) Note Sangoma is a Canadian company if that matters. Our
company and these other two provide installation support of the hardware and
back what they sell. The card(s) you need will depend on the manufacturer
and the interfacing. If you want to email me privately we can hash out more
specific details of what you need for your environment.

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On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Kevin Brown  wrote:

> I'm trying to spec out a PBX or similar system for a startup company. The
> requirements for such a system would be 10-15 phones (either analog or
> digital phones), 1 or 2 fax lines (obviously analog) and voicemail for same,
> as well as the recommended link to the outside world. Mostly I'm trying to
> figure out about how much this would cost with setup as part of a
> presentation. Unfortunately I can't give out a whole lot of information as I
> haven't been able to get any of my questions answered (this was dumped on me
> today and wanted by Wed. morning along with servers, switches, Internet
> access, etc...).
>
> Not looking for sales pitches, but wouldn't object to responses from local
> vendors, heheh.
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Re: PERL vs. Shell scripting for server automation.

[James Finstrom]

This is like asking bacon or gravy. It depends what flavor of fat you
are :). Do you know either language? Which are you more fluent in

On 5/19/10, keith smith  wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I was looking at some examples on writing a back up script and they are
> written in shell script.
>
> Now I'm wondering what would be better PERL or Shell scripting for doing
> stuff like writing a backup script that might stop MySql, make a copy
> (dump?) , tar it and maybe move the tarball or place it on another server?
>
> As you might have gathered from my last couple of questions I am not a sys
> admin.  I'm a programmer and am responsible for several servers, so I guess
> I need to break down and learn a few more skills.
>
> Thanks in advance for your insight, advice, and help!
>
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>
>
>

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Re: Sortta OT: How do I see "Win32.Worm.Allaple.Gen" traffic in my Linux firewall?

[James Finstrom]

Looks like it does a tcp scan on 139 and 445

On 5/19/10, kitepi...@kitepilot.com  wrote:
> Hello World:
> Long story short:
> I got an "official" notification that a computer behind my Linux firewall
> has the "Win32.Worm.Allaple.Gen" virus.
>
> I have some 150 puters NAT(ed) behind that firewall and no access whatsoever
> to any of them.
>
> Question is:
> What can I do at the Firewall level to identify the virus' traffic so I can
> harvest the puter's IP address...
> Thanks!
> ET
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OT: Penguins who ride..

[James Finstrom]

Greetings,

I know some members here ride motorcycles so I wanted to make you all aware
of a FREE motorcycle awareness ride coming up Sunday.

http://www.mcawarenessridephx.myevent.com/

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Re: Coding a program to do mass downloading help

[James Finstrom]

http://www.editcorp.com/Personal/Lars_Appel/wget/v1/wget_7.html

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM, AZ RUNE  wrote:

> I have a friend that does DJ work with a subscription to a closed music
> repository.
>
> In the repository there are 4 categories of music he wants to download with
> 4,000+ songs per category
>
> Is there a program that will do that automated over http if given the url?
> Or would it have to be custom built?
>
> Any ideas?
>
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Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

[James Finstrom]

When I heard of 1070 and before and since it was signed I have read:
- The bill ( 4 times at least )
- The U.S. Constitution as it applies
-- 4th amendment
--- Supreme court opinions and case law on the 4th amendment
-- 10th amendment - States Rights
-- 11th amendment  - related to the boycotts
- U.S. Immigration laws
- Mexican Constitution
- Mexico's Immigration laws

I guess ignorance is bliss but I prefer to be tormented and distracted by
knowledge.

---James


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:24 AM, keith smith  wrote:

>
> I agree.  The first question one should ask when someone makes a comment is
> "Have you read the law?".  I have and it is very tame.
>
> 
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Tue, 5/18/10, JD Austin * wrote:
>
>
> From: JD Austin 
>
> Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 8:31 AM
>
>
> All rhetoric aside... for anyone actually interested the text of the law
> fueling all of this debate you can read it here:
> http://www.azleg.gov/alispdfs/council/SB1070-HB2162.PDF
>
>
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Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

[James Finstrom]

Regardless of your political point of view or personal feelings on the
issues boycotts by state are stupid and pointless. These boycotts of
arizona do not affect those who affect the law. The boycotts only hurt
those they are trying to protect. I am a fan of an eye for an eye but
these boycotts end up taking a toe, thunb and an ear with the eye.

On 5/18/10, JD Austin  wrote:
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 21:41, Bryan O'Neal <
> bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
>
>> Did you not even read you cited references?
>>
>
> Not that I am complaining. I think it was a bold move that paid off
>> very, very, well. But denying the nature of the conflict is like
>> saying the Civil War was fought over slavery. It is fine for your Jr.
>> High text book but when grow, otherwise intelligent, people try
>> spouting that stuff they are either American idiots or just don't
>> care.
>>
>> To quote from the wikipidia page you cited.
>>
>> "The Mexican–American War was an armed conflict between the United
>> States and Mexico from 1846 to 1848 in the wake of the 1845 U.S.
>> annexation of Texas, which Mexico considered part of its territory
>> despite the 1836 Texas Revolution.
>>
>>
> Bryan you make me laugh :)
> Placing aside your inflammatory 'American idiot' speak...lets say that for
> argument's sake that Mexico under duress sold parts of modern day America
> 150+ years ago rather than surrender their entire country to the EVIL
> American empire.  Any affected people at the time would have become
> Americans or chosen to move to Mexico.
> Please explain this to me (perhaps off list) :)  How does something that
> happened generations before anyone alive was born justify breaking laws
> now?
>

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Re: Command Line Question

[James Finstrom]

I am still lost as why you would want the extra load no matter how small of
piping a second command when -f is built in. This is like folks doing `cat
file.txt | grep -i term` rather then `grep -i  term file.txt`

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Eric Shubert  wrote:

> Yeah, that looks better. < would redirect the contents of a file. Pipe is
> for a command.
>
> Dan Dubovik wrote:
>
>>  yes | rm -i *txt
>>
>> seems to be the proper syntax.
>>
>> [r...@localhost yestest]# rm -i file.* < yes
>> -bash: yes: No such file or directory
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Eric Cope > eric.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks, the yes command was what I was looking for.
>>Thanks everyone.
>>
>>Eric
>>
>>
>>On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:52 AM, ><mailto:tjones...@cox.net>> wrote:
>>
>>#unalias rm
>>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Eric Cope mailto:eric.c...@gmail.com>>
>>Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 09:35:15
>>To: Main PLUG discussion
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Re: Command Line Question

[James Finstrom]

man rm:
   -f, --force
  ignore nonexistent files, never prompt

Dangerous sometimes but it is what you seek

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Dan Dubovik  wrote:

> rm -i *.txt | yes
>
> may work for you?
>
> [r...@localhost]# yes --help
> Usage: yes [STRING]...
>   or:  yes OPTION
> Repeatedly output a line with all specified STRING(s), or `y'.
>
>   --help display this help and exit
>   --version  output version information and exit
>
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Eric Cope  wrote:
>
>> Good morning all,
>> I have a question that I don't know how to google. When I issue a command
>> like "rm -i *.txt", it responds with a question that I type 'y' for every
>> line. I recall a way to issue a 'y' to every question. I thought it was 'y!'
>> but that doesn't seem to work. Does anyone know this trick.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eric
>>
>> p.s. yes, I know I can use \rm *.txt or rm -f *.txt for this specific
>> trite case, but there are other situations where this would be helpful.
>>
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Re: OT: How to make a simple "vote-poll" ?

[James Finstrom]

Quick + Easy = google docs, stores forms in a spreadsheet and
is embeddable with little effort

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:46 AM,  wrote:

>
> How can I make a simple "vote-poll" to make the mockup
> shown at the following link work (as simple and concise
> as possible) so I can add it to my website and easily
> modify it for multiple variations.
>
> http://www.upquick.com/pollvote
>
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Re: clam tk

[James Finstrom]

Just a note sometimes its good for us people to have an antivirus. We
had an internal server with some infected files for a year. No one in
our office used windows so no one knew. You may be passing stuff
allong even though it doesn't affect you.

On 5/2/10, Joseph Sinclair  wrote:
> I think it's a matter of comfort and best-practices; remember that most
> users coming from Windows just expect that a virus scanner is required, it's
> better to let them run one using the easy GUI tools now available than to
> retrain every common practice up front.
> Running clamav with the most common default settings doesn't hurt anything,
> really, since it doesn't do any routine scanning unless you install some
> addons.  I have it installed on most machines as a cheap "just-in-case" (I
> even run routine scans on many of them).
>
> It's true that Linux is *nearly* untouched by the virus scourge, but it's
> still possible to pick up the detritus of a failed attack from a Windows or
> Mac virus, and it's nice to have something to clean that up with, otherwise
> those worthless bits of junk just hang around waiting to cause problems.
>
> On most desktops, setting a simple cron job to do a basic scan in the wee
> hours of the morning doesn't hurt anything, and it can help ensure the
> system's kept reasonably tidy.
>
> With a recent version of clamtk it's not hard to setup a simple nightly scan
> (and as a bonus clamtk uses cron to do that) from the scheduler page.
>
> ==Joseph++
>
> kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:
>> Hm...
>> Betty, what are you trying to accomplish?
>> From http://www.clamav.net :
>> "Clam AntiVirus is an open source (GPL) anti-virus toolkit for UNIX,
>> designed especially for e-mail scanning on mail gateways."
>> Are you running a "mail gateway"?
>> Do you even know what it is?
>> (Now risking to be burned on a bonfire)
>> Is there any value in compromising the performance of a machine by
>> scanning for viruses that mostly only exist in M$ junk?
>> There are LOTS of articles about it, and I chose the next one fairly
>> randomly:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/
>> I would not waste my time (and bog down my machine) looking for mostly
>> unexisting threats.  Sounds to me like creating real problems to prevent
>> potential problems or vaccinating against "headaches".
>> Clamav is a complex sucker, I run it on my "mail gateway"
>> (Yes, I run one)
>> My free advice?
>> apt-get uninstall clamav
>> Fire away...
>> ET
>>
>>
>> betty writes:
>>> ok, that is great. i looked and i did download freshclam and it is set
>>> to update every hour !
>>> how cool is that. now i'll figure out how to set it up to scan once a
>>> day or something i guess?
>>> thank you so much.
>>> betty i.
>>> Joseph Sinclair wrote:
>>>> ClamAV is typically updated via a separate package called FreshClam
>>>> (in Ubuntu, apt-get install clamav-freshclam).
>>>> freshclam is a background daemon that updates the AV signatures
>>>> automatically based on settings in /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf
>>>> (default us typically to check every hour).
>>>> You can control the update frequency from the clamtk window (if it's
>>>> *very* recent, many distros are behind in this) via advanced|schedule.
>>>> If you prefer using a GUI, you might also look at klamav, which is a
>>>> KDE frontend for clam.  Be warned klamav brings in dazuko and does
>>>> on-access scanning, which is probably not needed for Linux systems,
>>>> and may be harmful to system performance and stability.
>>>>
>>>> ==Joseph++
>>>> betty wrote:
>>>>> stupid question alert; please do not read if you have no patience.
>>>>> I am using clamAV and clam tk, (3.05) so that i can use the gui.
>>>>> it's supposed to have automatic updates, how will i know if it is
>>>>> updating it's signatures? [using a gui]
>>>>> does it run itself automatically or do i need to do that every so
>>>>> often?
>>>>> thanks again for all the help.
>>>>> betty i.
>>>>> webcanine.com
>>>>> information for people
>>>>> who care for dogs
>
>
>

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Re: Is this suspicious?

[James Finstrom]

I sent section 6 of the GPLv3 to cleanme...@hotmail.com requesting source...
we shall see what if any response I get... I did find him on google code but
only compiled binaries.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Tuna  wrote:

> Excerpts from James Finstrom's message of Thu Apr 01 10:41:26 -0700 2010:
> > Looking it over I do have issues but not with the domain.
> >
> > Author is a "handle"
> > Software distributed under GPL V3 but no source!
> >
> None in sight. I ran the installer in Wine just to see what would happen.
> It installed, still no source. That by itself sends up red flags. Although
> Softpedia says it has no malware.
>
> http://www.softpedia.com/progClean/CleanMe-Clean-151081.html
>
> Does anyone know what their testing involves?
>
> Also, on this guy's "About page":
>
> "For Download Sites: You are free to publish this application but the
> download link must be to my hompage or ask for permission."
>
> I guess he just doesn't get it.
>
> > I will do some digging
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:35 AM, James Finstrom <
> > jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
> >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.tk
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Dazed_75 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Appscout had an article about a "new" cleanup program for windows.
>  The
> > >> article pointed to http://www.cleanme.tk/ for downloading it.  But I
> was
> > >> leary of the TLD so did some checking.  This looks suspicious to me.
>  Am I
> > >> right?  Or overcautious?
> > >>
> > >> la...@triggerfish:~$ whois cleanme.tk
> > >>>
> > >>>Rights restricted by copyright. See
> > >>>http://www.dot.tk/en/pageF00.html
> > >>>
> > >>>Domain name:
> > >>>   CLEANME.TK
> > >>>
> > >>>Organisation:
> > >>>   BV Dot TK
> > >>>   Dot TK administrator
> > >>>   P.O. Box 11774
> > >>>   1001 GT  Amsterdam
> > >>>   Netherlands
> > >>>   Phone: +31 20 5315725
> > >>>   Fax: +31 20 5315721
> > >>>   E-mail: abuse: ab...@dot.tk, copyright infringement:
> > >>> copyri...@dot.tk
> > >>>
> > >>>Domain Nameservers:
> > >>>   NS01.DOT.TK
> > >>>   NS02.DOT.TK
> > >>>   NS03.DOT.TK
> > >>>   NS04.DOT.TK
> > >>>
> > >>>Your selected domain name is a Free Domain. That means that,
> > >>>according to the terms and conditions of Free Domain domain names
> > >>>the registrant is BV Dot TK in Amsterdam, Netherlands.
> > >>>
> > >>>Due to restrictions in Dot TK's Privacy Statement personal
> information
> > >>>about the user of the domain name cannot be released.
> > >>>
> > >>>ABUSE OF A DOMAIN NAME
> > >>>If you want to report abuse of this domain name, please send a
> > >>>detailed email with your complaint to ab...@dot.tk.
> > >>>In most cases Dot TK responds to abuse complaints within one
> business
> > >>> day.
> > >>>
> > >>>COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
> > >>>If you want to report a case of copyright infringement, please
> send
> > >>>an email to copyri...@dot.tk, and include the full name and
> address
> > >>> of
> > >>>your organization. Within 5 business days copyright infringement
> > >>> notices
> > >>>will be investigated.
> > >>>
> > >>>Record maintained by: Dot TK Domain Registry
> > >>>
> > >>> la...@triggerfish:~$ dig cleanme.tk
> > >>>
> > >>> ; <<>> DiG 9.6.1-P2 <<>> cleanme.tk
> > >>> ;; global options: +cmd
> > >>> ;; Got answer:
> > >>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34012
> > >>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 7, ADDITIONAL: 0
> > >>>
> > >>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > >>> ;cleanme.tk.INA
> > >>>
> > >>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > >>> cleanme.tk.300INA94.103.151.195
> > >>> cle

Re: Is this suspicious?

[James Finstrom]

Looking it over I do have issues but not with the domain.

Author is a "handle"
Software distributed under GPL V3 but no source!

I will do some digging


On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:35 AM, James Finstrom <
jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.tk
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>
>> Appscout had an article about a "new" cleanup program for windows.  The
>> article pointed to http://www.cleanme.tk/ for downloading it.  But I was
>> leary of the TLD so did some checking.  This looks suspicious to me.  Am I
>> right?  Or overcautious?
>>
>> la...@triggerfish:~$ whois cleanme.tk
>>>
>>>Rights restricted by copyright. See
>>>http://www.dot.tk/en/pageF00.html
>>>
>>>Domain name:
>>>   CLEANME.TK
>>>
>>>Organisation:
>>>   BV Dot TK
>>>   Dot TK administrator
>>>   P.O. Box 11774
>>>   1001 GT  Amsterdam
>>>   Netherlands
>>>   Phone: +31 20 5315725
>>>   Fax: +31 20 5315721
>>>   E-mail: abuse: ab...@dot.tk, copyright infringement:
>>> copyri...@dot.tk
>>>
>>>Domain Nameservers:
>>>   NS01.DOT.TK
>>>   NS02.DOT.TK
>>>   NS03.DOT.TK
>>>   NS04.DOT.TK
>>>
>>>Your selected domain name is a Free Domain. That means that,
>>>according to the terms and conditions of Free Domain domain names
>>>the registrant is BV Dot TK in Amsterdam, Netherlands.
>>>
>>>Due to restrictions in Dot TK's Privacy Statement personal information
>>>about the user of the domain name cannot be released.
>>>
>>>ABUSE OF A DOMAIN NAME
>>>If you want to report abuse of this domain name, please send a
>>>detailed email with your complaint to ab...@dot.tk.
>>>In most cases Dot TK responds to abuse complaints within one business
>>> day.
>>>
>>>COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
>>>If you want to report a case of copyright infringement, please send
>>>an email to copyri...@dot.tk, and include the full name and address
>>> of
>>>your organization. Within 5 business days copyright infringement
>>> notices
>>>will be investigated.
>>>
>>>Record maintained by: Dot TK Domain Registry
>>>
>>> la...@triggerfish:~$ dig cleanme.tk
>>>
>>> ; <<>> DiG 9.6.1-P2 <<>> cleanme.tk
>>> ;; global options: +cmd
>>> ;; Got answer:
>>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34012
>>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 7, ADDITIONAL: 0
>>>
>>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>>> ;cleanme.tk.INA
>>>
>>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>>> cleanme.tk.300INA94.103.151.195
>>> cleanme.tk.300INA193.33.61.2
>>> cleanme.tk.300INA209.172.59.196
>>> cleanme.tk.300INA217.119.57.22
>>>
>>> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
>>> tk.12242INNSROOT-F.TALOHA.tk.
>>> tk.12242INNSROOT-D.TALOHA.tk.
>>> tk.12242INNSROOT-G.TALOHA.tk.
>>> tk.12242INNSROOT-E.TALOHA.tk.
>>> tk.12242INNSROOT-A.TALOHA.tk.
>>> tk.12242INNSROOT-C.TALOHA.tk.
>>> tk.12242INNSROOT-B.TALOHA.tk.
>>>
>>> ;; Query time: 120 msec
>>> ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
>>> ;; WHEN: Thu Apr  1 10:12:01 2010
>>> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 246
>>>
>>> la...@triggerfish:~$
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Is this suspicious?

[James Finstrom]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.tk

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Dazed_75  wrote:

> Appscout had an article about a "new" cleanup program for windows.  The
> article pointed to http://www.cleanme.tk/ for downloading it.  But I was
> leary of the TLD so did some checking.  This looks suspicious to me.  Am I
> right?  Or overcautious?
>
> la...@triggerfish:~$ whois cleanme.tk
>>
>>Rights restricted by copyright. See
>>http://www.dot.tk/en/pageF00.html
>>
>>Domain name:
>>   CLEANME.TK
>>
>>Organisation:
>>   BV Dot TK
>>   Dot TK administrator
>>   P.O. Box 11774
>>   1001 GT  Amsterdam
>>   Netherlands
>>   Phone: +31 20 5315725
>>   Fax: +31 20 5315721
>>   E-mail: abuse: ab...@dot.tk, copyright infringement:
>> copyri...@dot.tk
>>
>>Domain Nameservers:
>>   NS01.DOT.TK
>>   NS02.DOT.TK
>>   NS03.DOT.TK
>>   NS04.DOT.TK
>>
>>Your selected domain name is a Free Domain. That means that,
>>according to the terms and conditions of Free Domain domain names
>>the registrant is BV Dot TK in Amsterdam, Netherlands.
>>
>>Due to restrictions in Dot TK's Privacy Statement personal information
>>about the user of the domain name cannot be released.
>>
>>ABUSE OF A DOMAIN NAME
>>If you want to report abuse of this domain name, please send a
>>detailed email with your complaint to ab...@dot.tk.
>>In most cases Dot TK responds to abuse complaints within one business
>> day.
>>
>>COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
>>If you want to report a case of copyright infringement, please send
>>an email to copyri...@dot.tk, and include the full name and address of
>>your organization. Within 5 business days copyright infringement
>> notices
>>will be investigated.
>>
>>Record maintained by: Dot TK Domain Registry
>>
>> la...@triggerfish:~$ dig cleanme.tk
>>
>> ; <<>> DiG 9.6.1-P2 <<>> cleanme.tk
>> ;; global options: +cmd
>> ;; Got answer:
>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34012
>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 7, ADDITIONAL: 0
>>
>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>> ;cleanme.tk.INA
>>
>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>> cleanme.tk.300INA94.103.151.195
>> cleanme.tk.300INA193.33.61.2
>> cleanme.tk.300INA209.172.59.196
>> cleanme.tk.300INA217.119.57.22
>>
>> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
>> tk.12242INNSROOT-F.TALOHA.tk.
>> tk.12242INNSROOT-D.TALOHA.tk.
>> tk.12242INNSROOT-G.TALOHA.tk.
>> tk.12242INNSROOT-E.TALOHA.tk.
>> tk.12242INNSROOT-A.TALOHA.tk.
>> tk.12242INNSROOT-C.TALOHA.tk.
>> tk.12242INNSROOT-B.TALOHA.tk.
>>
>> ;; Query time: 120 msec
>> ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
>> ;; WHEN: Thu Apr  1 10:12:01 2010
>> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 246
>>
>> la...@triggerfish:~$
>>
>
>
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Re: OT: Method of packaging software for shipment

[James Finstrom]

Looks like the zip command can too. No need to change your dev tree simply
exclude:

 -x files
  Explicitly exclude the specified files, as in:

 zip -r foo foo -x \*.o

  which will include the contents of foo in foo.zip while
excluding all the files  that  end  in
  .o.   The  backslash avoids the shell filename substitution,
so that the name matching is per-
  formed by zip at all directory levels.  If you do not escape
wildcards in patterns it may seem
  to work but files in subdirectories will not be checked for
matches.

  Also possible:

 zip -r foo foo -...@exclude.lst

  which will include the contents of foo in foo.zip while
excluding all the files that match the
  patterns in the file exclude.lst (each file pattern on a
separate line).


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:

> I like the idea of find to remove svn and then just zip (so windows is ok).
>
> Thanks!
> Eric
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Alex Dean  wrote:
>
>> For our Rails application at my job (which bundles Ruby, Apache, Postgres,
>> etc, etc...), we install everything into a scratch directory, use find to
>> remove all .svn files, and make a tarball of the result.  There's a lot more
>> that goes on, but that's the basic process.
>>
>> The customer just unpacks the tarball and runs a script to fire the whole
>> thing up.  We don't support Windows for this app, so I don't have any
>> experience packaging for that platform.  I think our other products which do
>> run on Windows use an InstallShield installer.
>>
>> alex
>>
>>
>> On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Eric Cope wrote:
>>
>>  It needs to be deployed to Linux and Windows. I can't just tar /dir
>>> because I have .svn files I don't want to include as well as test
>>> directories. I planned on using a form of tar/zip.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:16 PM, James Finstrom <
>>> jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>>> What distro is it running, It is pretty simple to make RPM's
>>>
>>> You can also as suggested simply tar it up tar -czvf myapp.tar.gz
>>> /full/path/to/app/
>>> On the server tar -xzvf myapp.tar.gz -C /
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:
>>> Its a web app intended to install on internal web servers that should not
>>> have public access.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:57 PM, keith smith 
>>> wrote:
>>> If this is a web app, then, why not use FTP?
>>>
>>> 
>>> Keith Smith
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Craig White  wrote:
>>>
>>> > From: Craig White 
>>> > Subject: Re: OT: Method of packaging software for shipment
>>> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >> >
>>> > Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 10:27 AM
>>> > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 10:19 -0700,
>>> > Eric Cope wrote:
>>> > > Hello all,
>>> > > I am wrapping a web application that is meant for
>>> > installation on my
>>> > > customer's servers. Does anyone have experience
>>> > packaging up software
>>> > > for shipment? What tools do you use? Can you offer any
>>> > advice?
>>> > 
>>> > probably just a tar/gzip but that would actually depend on
>>> > what the
>>> > application language is (php?) and what if any resources
>>> > need to be made
>>> > available (i.e. scripts for initializing an sql db, etc.)
>>> > and also the
>>> > platform (i.e. redhat only, or linux in general or all
>>> > possible OS
>>> > types).
>>> >
>>> > Craig
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: OT: Method of packaging software for shipment

[James Finstrom]

tar has the following option in `man tar` [--exclude PATTERN ] so you can
exclude anything you dont want in there. There is not going to be package
system that is one size fits all short of a tar ball

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Alex Dean  wrote:

> For our Rails application at my job (which bundles Ruby, Apache, Postgres,
> etc, etc...), we install everything into a scratch directory, use find to
> remove all .svn files, and make a tarball of the result.  There's a lot more
> that goes on, but that's the basic process.
>
> The customer just unpacks the tarball and runs a script to fire the whole
> thing up.  We don't support Windows for this app, so I don't have any
> experience packaging for that platform.  I think our other products which do
> run on Windows use an InstallShield installer.
>
> alex
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Eric Cope wrote:
>
>  It needs to be deployed to Linux and Windows. I can't just tar /dir
>> because I have .svn files I don't want to include as well as test
>> directories. I planned on using a form of tar/zip.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:16 PM, James Finstrom <
>> jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>> What distro is it running, It is pretty simple to make RPM's
>>
>> You can also as suggested simply tar it up tar -czvf myapp.tar.gz
>> /full/path/to/app/
>> On the server tar -xzvf myapp.tar.gz -C /
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:
>> Its a web app intended to install on internal web servers that should not
>> have public access.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:57 PM, keith smith 
>> wrote:
>> If this is a web app, then, why not use FTP?
>>
>> 
>> Keith Smith
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Craig White  wrote:
>>
>> > From: Craig White 
>> > Subject: Re: OT: Method of packaging software for shipment
>> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
>> > Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 10:27 AM
>> > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 10:19 -0700,
>> > Eric Cope wrote:
>> > > Hello all,
>> > > I am wrapping a web application that is meant for
>> > installation on my
>> > > customer's servers. Does anyone have experience
>> > packaging up software
>> > > for shipment? What tools do you use? Can you offer any
>> > advice?
>> > 
>> > probably just a tar/gzip but that would actually depend on
>> > what the
>> > application language is (php?) and what if any resources
>> > need to be made
>> > available (i.e. scripts for initializing an sql db, etc.)
>> > and also the
>> > platform (i.e. redhat only, or linux in general or all
>> > possible OS
>> > types).
>> >
>> > Craig
>> >
>> >
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Re: OT: Method of packaging software for shipment

[James Finstrom]

What distro is it running, It is pretty simple to make RPM's

You can also as suggested simply tar it up tar -czvf myapp.tar.gz
/full/path/to/app/
On the server tar -xzvf myapp.tar.gz -C /

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:

> Its a web app intended to install on internal web servers that should not
> have public access.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:57 PM, keith smith wrote:
>
>> If this is a web app, then, why not use FTP?
>>
>> 
>> Keith Smith
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Craig White  wrote:
>>
>> > From: Craig White 
>> > Subject: Re: OT: Method of packaging software for shipment
>> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
>> > Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 10:27 AM
>> > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 10:19 -0700,
>> > Eric Cope wrote:
>> > > Hello all,
>> > > I am wrapping a web application that is meant for
>> > installation on my
>> > > customer's servers. Does anyone have experience
>> > packaging up software
>> > > for shipment? What tools do you use? Can you offer any
>> > advice?
>> > 
>> > probably just a tar/gzip but that would actually depend on
>> > what the
>> > application language is (php?) and what if any resources
>> > need to be made
>> > available (i.e. scripts for initializing an sql db, etc.)
>> > and also the
>> > platform (i.e. redhat only, or linux in general or all
>> > possible OS
>> > types).
>> >
>> > Craig
>> >
>> >
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Re: How do I extract a list of function prototypes from C++ code?

[James Finstrom]

A small thread on this that may be of help
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1770290/how-can-i-list-all-function-prototypes-used-in-a-given-c-file-with-perl

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:02 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com <
kitepi...@kitepilot.com> wrote:

> Hello there...
>
> I have this extensive C++ code base from which I want to know every
> function
> prototype.
> Yes, I can write a script to get them, but from experience *I KNOW* that it
> will take me longer than I anticipate and more effort than I want to commit
> to writing such a script.
>
> I am using the IBM XL C/C++ compiler (2007), which doesn't seem to have an
> option to produce for me such a listing.
>
> Does anybody know of something out there to accomplish this?
> Thanks!
> Enrique
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Re: Seeking tips for making/editing videos.

[James Finstrom]

We also use the flip hd, plugs in and is seen as mass storage, open
the dcim folder and poof mp4's and they qualify as HD on youtube

On 3/2/10, Lyle Tuttle  wrote:
> My brother just got one of these for $75!!!  He walked into a Best Buy, and
> bingo...$75!!
>
> Seems pretty good -- up to 4 hours HD video on one chip.
>
> http://www.dealtime.com/xPO-Sony-MHS-PM1-Webbie-HD
>
> lyle
>
> At 10:00 PM 3/2/2010, you wrote:
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> We recently purchased an HD video camera.  We were looking for
>> something not special, just usable.  We got a Panasonic with a 10x
>> zoom for recording our kids from far away.  I think it was about $200.
>>  It works just fine for our use.  The video looks fine on our 32" LCD.
>>
>> I don't know what formats are acceptable to Youtube.  It's been some
>> time since I've uploaded anything to them.  Many camcorders have
>> Youtube support built-in, whatever that means.  Our new one even has
>> that, though I've not explored how to use it.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:25 PM,   wrote:
>> > .
>> > James Finstrom last wrote:
>> >> I have played with most of the apps available and found OpenShot to be
>> >> the
>> >> best simple editor that does not require a degree to operate.
>> >
>> > Thanks James.
>> >
>> > Also would like to know what would be a good, reasonably priced camera
>> > recommendation to make videos.  Some videos on Youtube (and elsewhere on
>> > the 'net) are excellent quality ... but many if not most are really poor
>> > quality.
>> >
>> > How much does one have to spend to get reasonably good video quality?
>> >
>> > And which of the myriad of video formats is the best to use?
>> >
>> >
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Re: Seeking tips for making/editing videos.

[James Finstrom]

I have played with most of the apps available and found OpenShot to be the
best simple editor that does not require a degree to operate.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:25 PM,  wrote:

> .
> Tried to search the plug archives for info about the subject today, but
> the archives seem to be unaccessible at the moment ... so, I'm posting the
> question here.
>
> What suggestions does the collective plug wisdom have for making and
> editing videos ... in particular for making good quality 3-4 minute videos
> to post on youtube (and elsewhere)?
>
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Re: A programming language for learning (Was: Re: )

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ipt
>>>> you will find C surprisingly limited in functionality if you try and do
>>>> things the same way, especially variable-length variables like strings
>>>> and arrays. Keep that fact in the back of your head for when, if, you
>>>> attempt C/C++.
>>>>
>>>> Whatever you do, Google " tutorial" should bring up something good.
>>>> In the way of books, however, you can't miss ones from O'Reilly (
>>>> http://oreilly.com/ ), they are jade/teal and have a random animal on
>>>> the cover.
>>>>
>>>> Austin Wright.
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Re: Need a consultant

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Any monkey could probably clean it or re-install it and put it on line. The
reason I used the term "consult" is because I would hope whoever goes in to
correct this would be able to educate them and secure them so they are not
repeating their mistakes.

:)

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Craig White  wrote:

> On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 14:37 -0700, JD Austin wrote:
> > My 2 cents :)
> > It may be a simple web form exploit or something more serious and they
> > have no guarantee that it won't be exploited again and again.
> > I'm not a security expert but used to hang out with hackers back when
> > it was just starting to be illegal and have a good understanding of
> > how they think and operate.  I'm perfectly capable of doing such
> > things but thankfully hacking never appealed to me :)  Good hackers
> > will patch your system in ways you would never detect... for that
> > matter you'd never even know they were there... they won't show up in
> > a process list, you won't find their files searching for them, they
> > eliminate any trace of themselves in logs, and you probably won't find
> > their back door unless they're amateur 'script kiddies'.  Fortunately
> > MOST hacker attacks are script kiddies.  You'll usually find traces of
> > their attack in logs and temp folders.
> >
> > The 'clean and recover' method will never give you 100% certainty that
> > you've eliminated the exploit.  The machine could have patched
> > binaries all over the place.  I have cleaned up such messes before; it
> > can be very time consuming.  Even if you find how they got in, how can
> > you ever be completely sure you've stopped them from getting back in
> > without building an new instance to replace it?
> >
> > The safest way to deal with it is to build a hardened server from
> > scratch; before loading data:
> >   * change all passwords/etc on the new server
> >   * generate new ssh keys if they exist
> >   * install mod_ssl, intrusion detection, and fail2ban/denyhosts
> >   * re-write applications NOT to use register_globals in PHP and
> > turn it off
> >   * turn up logging
> >   * migrate the applications/data to it  after checking logs for
> > clues of exploit and fix before migrating.
> > The data center can probably give them some information to help them
> > find where their server was exploited.
> 
> If the mandate is to clean in place and put back online, I myself would
> not be interested because the predicate is one that I could never agree
> to and hence, JD is right. You would surely spend more time fixing and
> trying to locate and removing the exploits than backing up, clean
> install and putting the data back and still, if it is not a clean
> install, someone is going to have some sleepless nights.
>
> I myself am an avid fan of denyhosts. It is of course, the curse for the
> dyslexic's among us  ;-)
>
> Craig
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Need a consultant

[James Finstrom]

Greetings,

Hello all a customer contacted me today and they appear to have a root kit
or some other software placed on their system that is causing it to act as a
proxy used in attacks on other servers causing their ISP to kill em. They
prefer to clean and recover over re-install. There system is Centos 5 but no
other details are available. If your a security person and would like to
consult this client Please email me for contact information.

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Re: OT: message "from Microsoft"

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Yeah it is... Redhat ewww

On 1/19/10, Alan Dayley  wrote:
> I'm confused.
>
> Re-read the message but substitute "Red Had Certified Engineer" or
> "Red Hat Partner" everywhere it says Microsoft?  Is it still a bad
> message?  If not, why not?
>
> Alan
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Mike Schwartz  wrote:
>> I got this message (on LinkedIn.com):
>> http://partner.linkedin.com/2010/01/linkedin-partner-message-from-microsoft-12/?n=4d696b65
>> It has also been archived here:
>>    http://www.webcitation.org/5muPL2hYq
>> so that even if the "original" one gets deleted, or disappears behind
>> a paywall or something, that "archived" copy should still be available.
>> "No comment" needed on why (or, let's say, whether)
>> Microsoft's way of doing business strikes me as "unpleasant".
>> Their message speaks for itself.
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Re: Is there a faster/better way to ftp?

[James Finstrom]

IN before lisa...

The argument is if you want yoiur pc to be secure then turn it off
disconnect all wires and encase it in cement. That said some jerk will
show up with a sledgehammer.

I do most of my bulk transfers with scp. In general its slow but its
un-attended. Bulk repetitive transfers use rsync and for minor things
like a page update I use fireftp

On 1/6/10, Eric Shubert  wrote:
> Me too (on all counts). :)
>
> kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:
>>>> FTP is no more vulnerable than other protocols.
>> Anything that sends a password in the clear is a NO-NO for me.
>> I only allow POP and IMAP over SSL to my servers.
>> And I only SSH...
>> But then again, I am a paranoid old fart...   :)
>> ET
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dale Farnsworth writes:
>>
>>>> Man, people still using FTP?
>>>> Are you aware of the FTP vulnerabilities?
>>> Do you use email?  Are you aware of email vulnerabilities?
>>>
>>> Do you use the web?  Are you aware of the vulnerabilities?
>>>
>>> FTP is no more vulnerable than other protocols.
>>>
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Re: How to make a Verizon USB modem work with Linux?

[James Finstrom]

distro? version?



On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Eric Shubert  wrote:

> Josef Lowder wrote:
> > .
> > What are the steps to make a Verizon USB modem work with Linux?
>
> DSL or POTS? Model?
>
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Re: OT: Google Wave

[James Finstrom]

I have some too and perhaps a google voice account

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Donn  wrote:

> I have 8 left.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. <
> mailing-li...@phoenixinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Would anyone in this group like a Google Wave accout?  I have 2 invites
>> left.
>>
>> Gilbert
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Re: FLASH disk as swap

[James Finstrom]

In my experience if you are regularly using the swap you need more ram. You
would do better to add a gig of ram then a flash device. this assumes you
dont have some extraordinary use which requires allot of data movement
making the swap necessary in which case I would still look at adding more
ram or another hard disk. Hard drives are going for .10-.50 a gig definately
worth it

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Stephen  wrote:

> I do but its in production as a xenserver...
>
> when we migrate the VM's off of it ill have some time to do this
> experiment.
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
> > What about a large database maybe a couple of terabytes, and maybe lots
> of
> > users.
> >
> > And then lets say we spread our 6GB of swap over several disks.
> >
> > Maybe a system with 32GB of memory, and dual quad processors.
> >
> > Maybe we could run some tests, anybody have a system like this ???
> >
> > What does ebay and amazon and new egg run on, I heard they were doing
> lots
> > of processing for black Friday ?
> >
> > Well maybe.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Kurt
> > Granroth
> > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:06 PM
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: FLASH disk as swap
> >
> > On 12/3/09 9:39 AM, der.hans wrote:
> >> Having swap be 1.5 times the size of ram is good, double the size of
> >> ram is better.
> >
> > Those are old-school heuristics from back in the day when 32 MB was a lot
> of
> > RAM.  I stretch to think of a case where 6-8 GB of swap would come into
> play
> > at *all*.  That is, if you have a case where the system is using
> multi-gig
> > amounts of swap, then I can almost guarantee that it is utterly unusable.
> > One could say that it's there as a "just-in-case"... but I'm having a
> hard
> > time buying that.  Unusable is unusable.  It would take so incredibly
> long
> > to recover that any production server would have long been rebooted or
> > managed some other way.
> >
> > I think I did 2x RAM up until I had 512MB and then 1x RAM until I got to
> > 1GB.  Then I was .5x at 2GB RAM and finally .25x now ;-)
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Re: Distro War: the netbook

[James Finstrom]

Centos has a good guide to making bootible thumbdrives google it will
prob ably be universal with tweaks

On 11/22/09, Trent Shipley  wrote:
> Tuna wrote:
>
>> *bump because the timestamp is crazy-early and probably at the bottom
>> of everyone's mail client*
>>
>> Ryan Rix will tell you Fedora, and can also tell you a thing or two about
>> bootable USB drives on netbooks.
>>
>> Can you tell us what make and model of netbook it is?
>>
>
> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook
>
> Wound up going with this.
>
>
> HP Mini 110-1125NR
> s/n CNU94438GZ
> p/n VM 135UA#ABA
>
>
>
>> Your messages appear to be getting greylisted, so Ryan may want to take
>> this discussion off list.
>>
>> Excerpts from Trent Shipley's message of Fri Nov 20 17:04:57 -0700 2009:
>>
>>> I just got a netbook and it is running Windows 7 Starter.  I intend to
>>> promiscuously attach it to public networks.  I figure I can avoid a lot
>>> of heartache by changing the OS to Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> I already have Kubuntu on my favorite desktop.  I like it, except that
>>> after every major upgrade it gets flaky for a while.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) I'd like to use anything except *ubuntu on the netbook.  What are
>>> some promising options?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2) I assume I use a bootable memory stick to start getting the distro,
>>> yes?
>>>
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Re: Kubuntu 9.10 - I HATE KDE 4.X

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if you hate kde4 you wont like windows 7 they are exactly the same... 2
versions back I dropped kubuntu in favor of Ubuntu. You can make gnome act
and look like KDE ( my gnome
http://jfinstrom.deviantart.com/art/My-Desktop-105130611 )

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Wayne Davis
wrote:

> I am trying DESPERATELY to fall in love with KDE 4.x, but this plasmoid,
> containment, wideget window, blah,blah blah... AGHHH!!! has me NUTS!
> I'm sure it is simple, but for the life of me, I cannot make heads or
> tails of it. WHERE can I go to have someone spend 15 min SHOWING me the
> ropes so I can get my duckies in a row?
>
> I hate to say this, but i'm actually considering Win7 as a result and it
> has me sick.
>
> I've looked at UBUNTU, OPENSUSE, DEB, ARCH I LIKE KUBUNTU WHY oh WHY
> did they have change. 
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Re: Tape barcode labels

[James Finstrom]

Open office and glables do all my lables

On 9/17/09, Shawn Badger  wrote:
> Has anyone done or have a recommendation on printing the the barcoded tape
> labels?  I need to print some labels for our tape library and I really don't
> want to have to use a Windows machine (or wine) to print them up so I am
> hoping someone has done this. so far google has only yielded a nice article
> on Linux Journal about printing labels, but nothing about barcodes.
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Re: new west side location or cancel?

[James Finstrom]

If only you could hold the west side meetings on the east side...

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:02 PM, David Huerta  wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM, der.hans  wrote:
> > When I've asked recently the DeVry campus at I-17 and Dunlap has come up
> > multiple times. Anyone have a contact over there that might sponsor us?
> > Would DeVry give us wireless access along with a room that has a
> > projector?
> >
>
> DeLUG's incoming Prez is working on finding a faculty adviser for
> DeLUG.  I'd imagine he/she would also be willing to sponsor PLUG
> meetings on campus.  They don't have public wireless access on campus,
> but a few of the rooms have wired ethernet jacks built into the
> tables, although since their latest bit of remodeling, that might not
> be the case anymore. :(  All the rooms do have projectors, though.
>
> > Any other location suggestions? Anything we can have confirmed by
> > tomorrow?
> >
>
> The ASU West Campus Library might be a good spot.  They have study
> rooms with some limited wifi and I think also projectors.  DeLUG had a
> few meetings there in the past.  Its on Thunderbird and 47th Ave.
>
> > Close to a light rail stop could be beneficial.
> >
>
> Eh, most of the west valley rail stations are in the 'hood and there's
> not too many places along 19th Ave I can think of that would have
> proper meeting facilities.
>
> ...
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Re: Printer Recommendation

[James Finstrom]

I would checkout any printer on
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting

I use an Epson RX595 all in one with ubuntu Jaunty it is plug n play, nort
so much with older versions of ubuntu.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Eric Cope  wrote:

> the entry level brothers work well. One even has a network port.
> Eric
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark!
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Craig White wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 23:47 -0700, Mark Jarvis wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We have an HP Laserjet 1018 printer. I like it fine, except . . . it
>>> > doesn't feed the paper straight. No matter how I fiddle with the feed
>>> > guides, the output is almost always skewed 1/16-1/18 inch. This
>>> > creates a problem when we go to use the output as masters to run off a
>>> > church newspaper.
>>>
>>>
>> I recently priced and and compared printers, and found that the EPSONs
>> were, by far the best value for the cost.  I replaced a HP PCS All-In-One
>> that was worth it's weight in gold (for ink cartridges) with an EPSON
>> Workforce 600 that prints, scans, faxes and copies using a document feeder,
>> and includes the nice feature of network IP via wireless as well as wired.
>> IP printing is easier to setup across platforms for all my systems
>> (Apple/Mac, Windows, FreeBSD, Solaris, Linux).  I like mine a great deal,
>> especially since it's a low energy hog.
>>
>> Of course, if you are printing a great number of color items regularly,
>> Kinkos is going to be the most economical, while giving a good result, once
>> you factor in ink cartridge prices.
>>
>> Of course that's not going to be the 600 dpi printing of the HP 1012,
>> instead, it's
>> up to 9600 x 9600 dpi.
>>
>> I haven't attempted to do any faxing over a grandstream ATA using VOIP,
>> however, but a land line would be especially nice with this printer for
>> faxing.
>>
>> Scanning is screaming fast and high quality, and of particular benefit is
>> the document feeder (if you have ever had to create a large number of
>> documents collated from a stack).  I haven't tried to use any OCR linux
>> tools with her yet, but the Mac software that comes with it, seems solid and
>> includes an OCR and print to PDF function/feature.
>>
>> I paid a good deal more for my printer, however, you can snarf this model
>> for just $39.99 right now from OfficeMax:
>> http://www.officemax.com/catalog/sku.jsp?skuId=21694873
>>
>> Here's the current price comparison for the great product:
>>
>> http://bensbargains.nextag.com/Epson-WorkForce-600/zzbensbargainszB1z0--search-html
>>
>>
>>  > Any suggestions on how to either a) effectively de-skew the printer or
>>> > b) a printer (within a home budget) that can be counted on to print
>>> > exactly straight?
>>> >
>>> > FWIW, we earlier had an HP Laserjet 1012 which had essentially the
>>> > same problem.
>>> 
>>> just for kicks, try using 24 lb paper, that is all I have used for many,
>>> many years.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
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OT: back on the bike kick (again)

[James Finstrom]

Well I ended up getting a 2006 Suzuki gs500f which rides awesome. So now I
want to get a geeky vanity plate and all the good ones I came up eith were
taken according to the servicearizona website. That said looking for some
suggestions for a plate 5 chars or less

Thanks,

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Terribly OT: do you need a car...

[James Finstrom]

Hey all I know this is probably bad mojo and terribly off topic but I am
desperate... My birthday is tomorrow and I am going through a bit of a
mid-life crises ( I'm not that old so I will probably die young) anyhow my
goal for this birthday was to get a motorcycle and frankly the economy
sucks.  I put my car up on craigslist as the proceeds from it's sale will
allow me to purchase said motorcycle. If you or anyone you know is looking
for a car let me know the CL ad is @
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/bar/1356816100.html

Sorry for the spam all and thanks for your time...

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Re: whois on ubuntu

[James Finstrom]

I am on jaunty and I get:

$ whois 113.53.156.48
% [whois.apnic.net node-2]
% Whois data copyright termshttp://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html

inetnum:  113.53.0.0 - 113.53.191.255
netname:  totnet
descr:dynamic IP for Broadband Service
descr:TOT Public Company Limited Bangkok
country:  th
tech-c:   ag100-ap
admin-c:  pa82-ap
status:   assigned non-portable
mnt-by:   maint-th-tot
changed:  ag100...@gmail.com 20081022
source:   APNIC

route:113.53.128.0/17
descr:TOT Public Company Limited
origin:   AS9737
mnt-by:   MAINT-TH-TOT
changed:  mail_ab...@tot.co.th 20090715
source:   APNIC

person:   pansak arpakajorn
nic-hdl:  PA82-AP
e-mail:   mail_ab...@tot.co.th
address:  89/2 Moo 3 Chaengwattana Rd, Laksi,Bangkok 10210 THAILAND
phone:+66-2574-9178
fax-no:   +66-2574-8401
country:  TH
changed:  surac...@tot.co.th 20050720
changed:  ag100...@gmail.com 20071107
mnt-by:   MAINT-TH-TOT
source:   APNIC

person:   apipol gunabhibal
nic-hdl:  AG100-AP
e-mail:   mail_ab...@tot.co.th
address:  89/2 Moo 3 Chaengwattana Rd, Laksi, Bangkok 10210 THAILAND
phone:+66-2505-2481
fax-no:   +66-2574-8401
country:  TH
changed:  surac...@tot.co.th 20050720
mnt-by:   MAINT-TH-TOT
source:   APNIC


$ whois --version
Version 4.7.30.

Report bugs to >.


On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Eric Shubert  wrote:

> On ubuntu Hardy, I get:
>
> shu...@edwin:~$ whois 113.53.156.48
> Unknown AS number or IP network. Please upgrade this program.
> shu...@edwin:~$
>
> On CentOS5 I get information back.
>
> Anyone know how to update whois on ubuntu so I get information on this
> address?
>
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Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet

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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> How do we get that bill introduced?
>
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Lisa,

Civics 101 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlka6fTnDnI

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Re: HackFest Series: News

[James Finstrom]

You missed the sears baby cooker thing. I don't have a link but it was
pretty funny

On 8/31/09, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
> UK Parliement Website Hacked:
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/UK-Parliament-Website-Hacked-120511.shtml
>
> Apache.org SSH key compromise = Site Taken Offline: 0
> http://www.h-online.com/security/SSH-Key-compromise-takes-Apache-org-offline-Update-2--/news/114115
>
> Stealing 130 million credit cards:
> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/08/stealing_130_mi.html
>
> Automated SQLi injection Attacks Spreading:
> http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200935/4314/SQL-Injection-attack-still-spreading-84000-and-counting
>
> Twitter Fails to block XSS Flaw:
> http://www.h-online.com/security/Twitter-fails-to-block-Cross-Site-Scripting-flaw--/news/114092
>
> Small Business Identity Theft and Fraud:
> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/08/small_business.html
>
> Yahoo Local Hacked:
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Yahoo-Local-Hacked-120044.shtml
> SQL Injection in Yahoo, mysql 5, with shell upload possibility:
> http://unu1234567.wordpress.com/
>
> Cracking GSM via distributed computing:
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10316812-245.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1009_3-0-20
>
> Flash Attack Vectors (and worms):
> http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7015&rss
>
> Military Server compromised:
> http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=7918
>
> Nessus Web App Assessment (with Video) DVL:
> http://www.digitalbond.com/index.php/2009/08/24/more-on-nessus-web-app-assessment/
>
> Distributed iFRAME M$ Bot attack using 55,000 sites:
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4091
>
> For Ryan: Apple says it's not to blame for Exploding iPhones:
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10321361-37.html
>
> BaseCamp One Wrong Click XSS:
> http://evilpacket.net/2009/jul/9/basecamp-one-wrong-click/
>
> BSD Smp Null Pointer rooting:
> http://www.frasunek.com/kqueue.txt
>
> SQL Injection Demystified:
> http://www.darkreading.com/database_security/security/app-security/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=T0OAY0UES5KRBQE1GHPCKH4ATMY32JVN?articleID=219401046
>
> Businessweek - Profit or Programmer failure:
> http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7977/29841672.png
>
> It happened, we watched it.  That's the week in news!
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Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama AdministrationSeeks Emergency Control of the Internet

[James Finstrom]

I think only land owners should be allowed to vote on "property tax" and
other property related issues. I do not own land but if I did I would find
it silly that someone who had nothing to lose could vote to vote on land
issues.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Dorian Monroe wrote:

> In defense of Ryan, the idea that only landowners should be allowed to vote
> is so absurd that many would consider that "racist".  I took Ryan's reply to
> be merely mocking the ignorance (and racist undertone) that only landowners
> should be given the right to vote.  Since we're pointing fingers and all...
>
> I bit on the flame bait.  I promise not to comment any more!  :)
>
> Sent from my blackberry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lyle Tuttle 
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:59:21
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Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet

[James Finstrom]

I saw a deal on one of real tv's video shows where these kids took over a
university cafiteria for 2 days to protest something and as soon as the
threat of arrest came they all split. Unfortunately although college kids
are often excitable sheep who act on mob mentalities and do whatever is
popular, they have no  conviction so they will only stand up until it is
inconvenient to do so. Remember this coming generation grew up in a word
where:

-Everything is FAIR
-Teachers shouldn't use red pens because it is hard on the childs ego
-Some schools don't give an "F" because calling kids a failure is not nice
-Youth sports should not keep score because every one should be a winner
-Everyone gets a trophy not just the winners..

So you want to depend on these kids to fight for something when they were
coddled and have never understood competition...

Yay

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Re: Problems Upgrading Debian Squeeze

[James Finstrom]

There is a drawn out thread on the ubuntu forums about this. the forum is
summed up here:
http://arunpc.com/2008/06/01/ubuntu-there-was-an-error-starting-the-gnome-settings-daemon/



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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Mark Phillips
wrote:

> I ran my usual apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade last night on my Debian
> squeeze system. There were no errors, and when I rebooted, I was able to
> login, but gnome (1) generated an error message and (2) I only got as far as
> my wallpaper and items on the Desktop. No menu bar (just white band) and no
> panel at the bottom of the screen. I tried dpkg-reconfigure gnome, but gnome
> had been removed! So I reinstalled it, and still the same problem. Any
> suggestions where to look for the problem or how to fix it? Right now my
> main machine is no more than a paperweight!
>
> The gnome error message:
>
> There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.
>
> Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work
> correctly.
>
> The last error message was:
>
> Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application
> did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the
> reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
>
> GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
> P.S. Iupdated three other machines the same way. This same error message
> appears sometimes on those machines, but gnome manages to get everthing
> running in spite of it. This is the first failure to actually load the menu
> bar and panel.
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Re: Sugar on a Stick - Sugar Labs

[James Finstrom]

If you have been to an east side meeting at sequoia you know 1 school
that uses linux. I think charter schools are a perfect target. I just
signed my kids up at a charter school that doent have a computer lab
they have laptops that come to the classrooms I thought that was neat

On 8/7/09, Michael Butash  wrote:
> I dunno about any of you, but I know of no schools using sugar, let
> alone linux here locally.  I've worked with a few school districts
> around town for infrastructure, and they're all very linux-ama-whuzzit?
> As far as I can tell they have issues grasping/maintaining networked
> windoze environments, and I can't imagine them wanting to now inject a
> whole new os even they themselves haven't a clue how to maintain.
> Combine this with being already overworked and underpaid, it'll die on
> the butchering floor for anyone to support it within the organization.
>
> Now look at this from a kids perspective, if they can't run games or
> even apps they're *familiar* with, I think most would immediately
> dismiss it.  Combine this with probably scaring the hell out of their
> windoze-loving parents booting their system even temporarily into linux,
> they'd ban such a thing thinking it's a virus or something equally
> asinine.  I think only the most geek-inclined would bother, others would
> just format it to hide their pr0n on.  Microsoft and scammers (one and
> same?) have done a good job of getting people to think that nothing good
> can possibly be free...
>
> As good as the intentions, without some serious persistence and
> education, it'd be moot to bother with IMHO.  Cisco has done a good job
> of trying to push themselves into high school education curriculum, as
> has Microsoft, but I don't see the same happening with any linux.  There
> is no singular beast of a self-serving company producing and
> incentivizing it with the same capacity for pulling money off trees for
> pet projects as they do.  Well, at least until google steps forward with
> ChromeOS perhaps...
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:51 -0700, Stephen wrote:
>> even further out on a limb maybe contact any of the big companies
>> wanting to tout their opensource support? dell hp ibm ect...
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Stephen wrote:
>> > And honestly they are one of the most persistant companies supporting
>> > opensource locally. kinda of a fit..
>> >
>> > maybe contact system76?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:12 AM, wayne wrote:
>> >> Eric Shubert wrote:
>> >>> I stumbled across this just now:
>> >>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
>> >>> "The Sugar on a Stick project gives children access to /their/ Sugar
>> >>> on
>> >>> any computer in their environment with just a USB memory stick. Taking
>> >>> advantage of the Fedora LiveUSB, it's possible to store everything you
>> >>> need to run Sugar on a single USB memory stick (minimum size 1GB)."
>> >>> I must have missed/ignored this being mentioned here before.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: ****Re: guess what....

[James Finstrom]

It seems the security holes in the border were not from bad policy.
This whole time they were running windows... Redmond says we should
see patches shortly...

On 7/30/09, Joshua Zeidner  wrote:
>   Thanks Keith.  I am standing right behind you.
>
>   -jmz
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:08 AM, keith smith wrote:
>>
>>
>> Interesting.  What is on topic?  Seems most everything is off topic these
>> days.
>>
>> I received a ticket the other day for running a red light. 213 dollars and
>> 1/2 a day in class and I am on my way.  No lenience for me. Seems I broke
>> the law.  I understand the system.
>>
>> If someone jumps our border fence and enters the USA illegally that is an
>> illegal act.  Plain and simple.
>>
>> What do you think would happen if I jumped the fence and traveled South
>> into Mexico.  I suspect I might be beaten and jailed.
>>
>> We are a sovereign nation.  I grew up on the border and saw the effects of
>> the illegal population during my time as a police officer.
>>
>> The main stream media does not tell you the whole truth, nor does Obama.
>>
>> If this problem persists it will cost us all a lot of money.
>>
>> These are not our people (illegal aliens).  They need to be returned to
>> their country. If they do not like what is going on in Mexico then they
>> need to make some changes just as some of us are trying to return our
>> country to it's rightful place as a constitutional country that is free.
>>
>> Very few people understand the sacrifices of our founding fathers.  They
>> gave their all so we could be free.  Today many people through out the US
>> are fighting for our freedom.  So how can I respect someone that comes to
>> my country to be a parasite? They need to return to their own country and
>> build an economy, not leach of of ours.
>>
>> Because I hold the law to be supreme I am called a racist. Call me what
>> you may.  At the end of the day I am just an American who believes in our
>> find country based on the rule of law and who is willing to stand up for
>> freedom.
>>
>> 
>> Keith Smith
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Craig White  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Craig White 
>>> Subject: Re: Re: guess what
>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:27 AM
>>> On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 22:33 -0700,
>>> Lyle Tuttle wrote:
>>> > Perhaps you are looking at the wrong source.we now
>>> have a $3
>>> > Billion deficit.check out these numbers in bold
>>> blue.
>>> 
>>> every state has a major deficit as they clearly were
>>> unprepared for such
>>> a drastic change in the economy.
>>>
>>> I find it offensive in every way that first JMZ linked the
>>> racist
>>> article and now you found it worthy to paste. The article
>>> is not a news
>>> story but rather an opinion piece and not really suitable
>>> for this list.
>>>
>>> That anyone should scapegoat any group of people (not once
>>> but many
>>> times) for causing this economic downturn is stupid. This
>>> is a bitter,
>>> hate filled person and his comments have no place on this
>>> list.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
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Re: ****Re: guess what....

[James Finstrom]

There is only one job in politics and that is to keep your job. To
keep your job you need 2 things, money and votes. Money comes from
special interest groups so politicians must cater to them or they will
not be able to afford a campaign. Cutting social services that are
bleading the various levels of government dry does not earn votes.
This is what's broken.

On 7/30/09, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
> Well, that is the American model?
>
> 1) Limited, inefficient and horrendously expensive health care (where
> are the majority of my high school peers? dead) which exists as part
> of the "insurance industry" (rather than the scientific and health
> industries [which are non-existent!]
> 2) Feeding frenzy of artifically exploding "value" and credit costs!
> 3) Little "economic traps" everywhere! (We so loved our Monopoly games
> as children?)
> 4) Drugs actually used for government profit, agrandized by modern
> media! See #1, where illness is not treated, so drugs become a common
> man's answers.
> 5) Alcohol that limits functioning and keeps people from developing
> extensive critical thought.
> 6) Lack of primary economic education (greater than the 6th grade level).
> 7) Open borders so we have more minions within the matrix!
>
> On 7/30/09, JD Austin  wrote:
>> I was waiting to see how long until racism was called :)
>> It is a fact that illegal immigration is costing Az and Ca plenty and
>> pointing that out doesn't make him hate filled or racist.  I don't blame
>> them for coming here... If I were them I'd do it too.  We need to remove
>> the
>> 'free' incentives that we can no longer afford to provide.  They're not
>> the
>> only demographic freeloading services; plenty of Americans game the system
>> (generations!) to get a free ride too.
>>
>> Such a conversation doesn't belong on this list about Linux and
>> technology.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Craig White 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 22:33 -0700, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
>>> > Perhaps you are looking at the wrong source.we now have a $3
>>> > Billion deficit.check out these numbers in bold blue.
>>> 
>>> every state has a major deficit as they clearly were unprepared for such
>>> a drastic change in the economy.
>>>
>>> I find it offensive in every way that first JMZ linked the racist
>>> article and now you found it worthy to paste. The article is not a news
>>> story but rather an opinion piece and not really suitable for this list.
>>>
>>> That anyone should scapegoat any group of people (not once but many
>>> times) for causing this economic downturn is stupid. This is a bitter,
>>> hate filled person and his comments have no place on this list.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
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Re: Microsoft Submits Code to Linux Kernel - Linus Responds

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Would be funny if it got rejected for not meeting coding standards.

On 7/30/09, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
> http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7439/1.html
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Re: Has anyone made a solar power setup for a computer?

[James Finstrom]

3 Steps to this

1. Use the correct hardware, something atom based and low power.

2. Determine requirements for 12V at about 5A solar panel cells/regulator

3. Add a battery in to the mix matching the same above stats 12V 5A

The hardware would run off the battery and the solar panels would charge the
batteries. This will help for low light ang in general power conditioning.
Straight solar would be too dirty and would cause hardware failure pretty
rapidly.

Note this is just for the PC requirements for a monitor etc would increase
needs.

With all of this in mind go wwith a netbook that has insane battery life
anyway and one of these:

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/10/7-portable-solar-laptop-chargers-worth-considering.php


On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Trent Shipley  wrote:

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> Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> >   Im interested in this topic as well.  If you manage to build this,
> > please let us know how it goes.
> >
> >   -jmz
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Josef Lowder wrote:
> >> Have any of you made a solar power setup for your computer system?
> >>
> >> I've recently begun researching this and it seems very feasible.
> >>
> >> At one website, a writer claims one can make a solar power generator for
> less
> >> than $300 -- 
> >> www.rain.org/~philfear/how2solar.html--
> >>  in summary he says:
> >>
> >> 1. Run a line out the window to an 8" x 24" panel on the roof.
> >> Solar panels cost about $100 rated 12 volts or better at RV store or
> >> at Greenbatteries.com. Powerfilm R15-300 Rollable Solar Panel is $98.47.
> >> A 300 mah (approx 5 watt) solar panel comes with cable to connect to a
> >> battery. Internal batteries of wireless electronics can be charged by
> >> connecting a PowerFilm Rollable Solar Panel to a device's 12V adapter.
> >>
> >> 2. Get a deep cycle battery from Greenbatteries or Batteries.com for
> about $50.
> >>   Or a Xantrex XPower 1500 W/60 AH battery from GoGreenSolar.com
> >>
> >> 3. Buy a 12 volt DC meter. Radio Shack has them for about $25.
> >>
> >> 4. Buy a DC input - a triple inlet model, enough to power many DC
> appliances
> >> like fans, lights, laptops, etc. costs about $10. With the right cable
> will
> >> run straight off the box.
> >>
> >> 5. To run AC appliances, get an inverter to convert stored DC power in
> the
> >> battery to AC power for most household appliances. A 115 volt 140 watt
> >> inverter by Power-to-Go at Pep Boys is $50.
> >>
> >> 6. Attach the meter and DC input to the top of the box.
> >>
> >> 7. Attach the meter to terminals on the battery.
> >> Connect the solar panel to the battery.
> >>
> >> 8. Put solar panel in the sun. It takes 5-8 hours to charge a dead
> battery,
> >> 1-3 hours to top off a weak one. This will run many appliances for 5
> hours
> >> continuous use at 115 volt AC. Add larger panels, inverters, batteries
> for more.
> >>
> >> Options: A pop-up circuit breaker between the positive terminal and volt
> meter.
> >> May add an ampmeter also. Some panels have built-in bypass diodes, or
> use a
> >> charge controller for panels without diodes. Another option is a
> >> voltage regulator.
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Re: 1984 George Orwell and the Kindle

[James Finstrom]

Am I the onlyone who sees the irony here. An entity who has the
ability to control what you can and can't read and ummm the book 1984

On 7/18/09, Alan Dayley  wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Austin William
> Wright wrote:
>> It is this one,
>> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
>>
>> Stallman, as usual, is right, even if (I think) for all the wrong
>> reasons. Copyright is something that could not exist in a free society,
>> the only way it can exist is through the coercion of government force,
>> restricting you from doing otherwise lawful things with what you own as
>> your property (In fact, even if there was no private property,
>> government could still enforce intellectual property). Regardless of
>> wither intellectual property should exist, it is of little doubt the
>> power grabs by the government and long copyright terms are hurting the
>> market for authors instead of helping. I don't know if Amazon would
>> still have the right to take back books like they did (without studying
>> property rights a bit more, I suspect 'they do but why would they want
>> to?'), in any case I don't think that, without copyright as it is, they
>> could have pulled it off (no pun intended har har har). At the very
>> most, commercial pressures might have gotten them to do so, but another
>> publisher would step up offering a better alternative, with no
>> artificial hampering of the market by patent or copyright.
>>
>> I think with Washington, DC the way it is right now there is nothing
>> standing in the way of even more copyright expansion (or government in
>> general for that matter), like "database rights" in the European Union
>> or a broad "workright" where you own the "right" to anything you invest
>> time into and all derivatives (like making a copy of a public domain
>> work).
>
> Thanks for finding the reference story.
>
> Alan
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Re: cheese failing silently

[James Finstrom]

I have nothing good to contribute here but if I hadn't used cheese and
knew what it was I would think the thread subject was strange. Even
now I chuckle every time I see it

On 7/15/09, Dazed_75  wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Ted Gould  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 09:44 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Ted Gould  wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 19:04 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote:
>> > > Jul  8 17:42:03 damselfish dbus-daemon: Rejected send
>> > message, 1
>> > > matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.34" (uid=1000
>> > pid=3831
>> > > comm="/usr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet --oaf-a")
>> > > interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="Get"
>> > error
>> > > name="(unset)" requested_reply=0
>> > destination=":1.57" (uid=1000
>> > > pid=6093 comm="cheese "))
>> >
>> >
>> > That's my fault :)
>> >
>> > It shouldn't relate to Cheese in anyway.  If you'd like to
>> > respond to
>> > the bug, it's more about spamming auth.log with useless
>> > information.
>> >
>> >   https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-applet/+bug/346513
>> >
>> > Sorry about that.
>> >
>> >--Ted
>> > Are you saying that my cheese filing to stay running is because of the
>> > fix you committed for this bug?
>>
>> No, I'm saying that the reason that you see that message in your
>> auth.log is because of something I wrote.  It would be entirely
>> unrelated to your Cheese not running.
>>
>>    --Ted
>>
>> Thanks for the info Ted!  Sorry I misunderstod.
>
> So, back to the drawing board.  Lordy I do hate silent failures.
> Unfortunately, it is all too common to not convey any useful information to
> the poor user!
>
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>
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Re: Linux Magic Jack?

[James Finstrom]

Its not like gmail (yet) only google can invite

On 7/14/09, mike havens  wrote:
> hey could you send me an invite to google voice?
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>
>> There are a number of Phone to USB or even Mic/Headphone jack
>> adapters. if you look around you can find one.
>>
>> let me know and i can help you look if you like.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:34 PM, mike Enriquez wrote:
>> > I  saw  a demo of Magic Jack which a USB thumb drive like device that
>> > lets you plug in a telephone jack and make all your phone calls via the
>> > internet.It claims to work only on windows.
>> > They claim that the annual fee is $20.00. Does anyone on the list know
>> > if this is available on Linux or something else exist that is similar.
>> > Boy, I like the price of $20.00 per year to make all my phone calls.
>> > Thanks
>> > Mike Enriquez
>> >
>> >
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Re: Odd question on DNS/domain name stuff...

[James Finstrom]

Perhaps http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/htaccess14.shtml would be a
good read. You can set the .htaccess to generate a 404 or ...  Anyway
I think the article probably has a good explination of what's going
on. Your friend needs a new log parser or needs to add more columns to
his view the apache logs show the originating ip as well as the
referer

On 7/13/09, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:32 PM, James
> Finstrom wrote:
>> The referer is not official it is just an http header so most likely
>> someone spoofing the header
>
> Well then they're spoofing it 2000+ times.  A google search on:
>
> "alchemistsrroom.us"
>
> ...shows lots of hits and in some cases site referrals to some odd
> websites: a mixture of deep-right Christian religious and a few others
> such as "sunnimuslim.org"?
>
> Is there any way to pull an IP address out of the referral logs on my
> friend's server?
>
> Is it possible "alchemistsrroom.us" is operating off of a non-standard
> port, something like "alchemistsrroom.us:4269"?
>
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